Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Hi, This is my first post here, but I frequently post in the other clubfoot group. We took our son's casts off yesterday. He is 2 months old, bilateral, & we see Dr. Ponseti. I think the JM shoes are cute! Anyway, I am having problems getting his heel to stay down to the bottom. The shoes aren't slipping, they fit quite snugly when buckled. I just can't get the heel down far enough to begin with. I am sure this is a newbie problem, this is the first time he has had anything on but casts. What is the easiest way to put them on? We are awkward at the whole process. I am sure it just takes practice. Thanks for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 I have the sandals as well and the way to get the heel down is to bend the leg and push from the knee until the heel is down and then buckle the top buckle and tighten the middle one. Works every time. Chris Need help with our Shoes Hi, This is my first post here, but I frequently post in the other clubfoot group. We took our son's casts off yesterday. He is 2 months old, bilateral, & we see Dr. Ponseti. I think the JM shoes are cute! Anyway, I am having problems getting his heel to stay down to the bottom. The shoes aren't slipping, they fit quite snugly when buckled. I just can't get the heel down far enough to begin with. I am sure this is a newbie problem, this is the first time he has had anything on but casts. What is the easiest way to put them on? We are awkward at the whole process. I am sure it just takes practice. Thanks for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Just wondering how things are going with the sandals? I didn't have a chance to post the other day. When we moved our daughter into the sandals almost three weeks ago we also had a hard time getting her heels to stay completely flat. With her feet being so sensitive after removing the casts it was hard for us to just grab ahold of her feet to get them into her sandals. I did call and Dr. Ponseti and they both said not not worry about getting her heels completely flat. Her heel and toes seem to be lined up and not at an angle. I thought that was kind of strange but they said as long as her feet were not slipping out that it should be fine. They also said that with time it would be easier to get her heels completely flat. Over the past few weeks it has gotten easier but they still aren't flat. I figure that they are the experts but I can't help but worry since we don't return to see Dr. Ponseti until the end of June. I have tightened the straps as snug as possible. She has not had any blisters or sores and tolerates the sandals well. We were told to tighten the middle strap first. Many experienced parents on this site also suggested holding the sandal and pushing the heel down from the knee joint. Have you been able to get your sons heels completely flat in the sandals yet? Sorry to ramble on so much. Hope things are going well!! Bridget and blcf 2/20/04 > Hi, > This is my first post here, but I frequently post in the other > clubfoot group. We took our son's casts off yesterday. He is 2 > months old, bilateral, & we see Dr. Ponseti. I think the JM shoes > are cute! Anyway, I am having problems getting his heel to stay down > to the bottom. The shoes aren't slipping, they fit quite snugly when > buckled. I just can't get the heel down far enough to begin with. I > am sure this is a newbie problem, this is the first time he has had > anything on but casts. What is the easiest way to put them on? We > are awkward at the whole process. I am sure it just takes practice. > Thanks for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Just wondering how things are going with the sandals? I didn't have a chance to post the other day. When we moved our daughter into the sandals almost three weeks ago we also had a hard time getting her heels to stay completely flat. With her feet being so sensitive after removing the casts it was hard for us to just grab ahold of her feet to get them into her sandals. I did call and Dr. Ponseti and they both said not not worry about getting her heels completely flat. Her heel and toes seem to be lined up and not at an angle. I thought that was kind of strange but they said as long as her feet were not slipping out that it should be fine. They also said that with time it would be easier to get her heels completely flat. Over the past few weeks it has gotten easier but they still aren't flat. I figure that they are the experts but I can't help but worry since we don't return to see Dr. Ponseti until the end of June. I have tightened the straps as snug as possible. She has not had any blisters or sores and tolerates the sandals well. We were told to tighten the middle strap first. Many experienced parents on this site also suggested holding the sandal and pushing the heel down from the knee joint. Have you been able to get your sons heels completely flat in the sandals yet? Sorry to ramble on so much. Hope things are going well!! Bridget and blcf 2/20/04 > Hi, > This is my first post here, but I frequently post in the other > clubfoot group. We took our son's casts off yesterday. He is 2 > months old, bilateral, & we see Dr. Ponseti. I think the JM shoes > are cute! Anyway, I am having problems getting his heel to stay down > to the bottom. The shoes aren't slipping, they fit quite snugly when > buckled. I just can't get the heel down far enough to begin with. I > am sure this is a newbie problem, this is the first time he has had > anything on but casts. What is the easiest way to put them on? We > are awkward at the whole process. I am sure it just takes practice. > Thanks for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi, It is getting a little easier to get them on. I am having exactly what you described - his feet are sensitive so I am trying to be gentle. It has been 5 or so days now, so we are getting better. The heels still aren't completely flat, but aren't slipping. I have to be careful how much I tighten or Garrett's feet swell a bit. It seems to be a fine line. He has had no blisters. I am glad you called - I was going to call Dr Ponseti on Monday to make sure. I also worry that since we don't go back until July that if I am doing something wrong there will be consequences for my son. Thanks for your post, it made me feel better to know that another parent had the same concerns. Deana > Just wondering how things are going with the sandals? I didn't have a > chance to post the other day. When we moved our daughter into the > sandals almost three weeks ago we also had a hard time > getting her heels to stay completely flat. With her feet being so > sensitive after removing the casts it was hard for us to just grab > ahold of her feet to get them into her sandals. I did call > and Dr. Ponseti and they both said not not worry about > getting her heels completely flat. Her heel and toes seem to be lined > up and not at an angle. I thought that was kind of strange but they > said as long as her feet were not slipping out that it should be > fine. They also said that with time it would be easier to get her > heels completely flat. Over the past few weeks it has gotten easier > but they still aren't flat. I figure that they are the experts but I > can't help but worry since we don't return to see Dr. Ponseti until > the end of June. I have tightened the straps as snug as possible. She > has not had any blisters or sores and tolerates the sandals well. > > We were told to tighten the middle strap first. Many experienced > parents on this site also suggested holding the sandal and pushing > the heel down from the knee joint. Have you been able to get your > sons heels completely flat in the sandals yet? Sorry to ramble on so > much. Hope things are going well!! > > Bridget and blcf 2/20/04 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi, It is getting a little easier to get them on. I am having exactly what you described - his feet are sensitive so I am trying to be gentle. It has been 5 or so days now, so we are getting better. The heels still aren't completely flat, but aren't slipping. I have to be careful how much I tighten or Garrett's feet swell a bit. It seems to be a fine line. He has had no blisters. I am glad you called - I was going to call Dr Ponseti on Monday to make sure. I also worry that since we don't go back until July that if I am doing something wrong there will be consequences for my son. Thanks for your post, it made me feel better to know that another parent had the same concerns. Deana > Just wondering how things are going with the sandals? I didn't have a > chance to post the other day. When we moved our daughter into the > sandals almost three weeks ago we also had a hard time > getting her heels to stay completely flat. With her feet being so > sensitive after removing the casts it was hard for us to just grab > ahold of her feet to get them into her sandals. I did call > and Dr. Ponseti and they both said not not worry about > getting her heels completely flat. Her heel and toes seem to be lined > up and not at an angle. I thought that was kind of strange but they > said as long as her feet were not slipping out that it should be > fine. They also said that with time it would be easier to get her > heels completely flat. Over the past few weeks it has gotten easier > but they still aren't flat. I figure that they are the experts but I > can't help but worry since we don't return to see Dr. Ponseti until > the end of June. I have tightened the straps as snug as possible. She > has not had any blisters or sores and tolerates the sandals well. > > We were told to tighten the middle strap first. Many experienced > parents on this site also suggested holding the sandal and pushing > the heel down from the knee joint. Have you been able to get your > sons heels completely flat in the sandals yet? Sorry to ramble on so > much. Hope things are going well!! > > Bridget and blcf 2/20/04 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi, It is getting a little easier to get them on. I am having exactly what you described - his feet are sensitive so I am trying to be gentle. It has been 5 or so days now, so we are getting better. The heels still aren't completely flat, but aren't slipping. I have to be careful how much I tighten or Garrett's feet swell a bit. It seems to be a fine line. He has had no blisters. I am glad you called - I was going to call Dr Ponseti on Monday to make sure. I also worry that since we don't go back until July that if I am doing something wrong there will be consequences for my son. Thanks for your post, it made me feel better to know that another parent had the same concerns. Deana > Just wondering how things are going with the sandals? I didn't have a > chance to post the other day. When we moved our daughter into the > sandals almost three weeks ago we also had a hard time > getting her heels to stay completely flat. With her feet being so > sensitive after removing the casts it was hard for us to just grab > ahold of her feet to get them into her sandals. I did call > and Dr. Ponseti and they both said not not worry about > getting her heels completely flat. Her heel and toes seem to be lined > up and not at an angle. I thought that was kind of strange but they > said as long as her feet were not slipping out that it should be > fine. They also said that with time it would be easier to get her > heels completely flat. Over the past few weeks it has gotten easier > but they still aren't flat. I figure that they are the experts but I > can't help but worry since we don't return to see Dr. Ponseti until > the end of June. I have tightened the straps as snug as possible. She > has not had any blisters or sores and tolerates the sandals well. > > We were told to tighten the middle strap first. Many experienced > parents on this site also suggested holding the sandal and pushing > the heel down from the knee joint. Have you been able to get your > sons heels completely flat in the sandals yet? Sorry to ramble on so > much. Hope things are going well!! > > Bridget and blcf 2/20/04 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 I'm glad to hear that things are getting easier with the sandals. You'll find that with each passing day his feet will be less sensitive. My daughter usually falls asleep as I put on her brace. I just wonder if there is something we should be watching for that would tell us that regression was occuring? After reading the many posts on this site and Dr. Ponseti's info, it seems that the chance of regression with proper and consistent brace wear is slim to none. I just hope we have the brace on right. Bridget > > Just wondering how things are going with the sandals? I didn't > have a > > chance to post the other day. When we moved our daughter into the > > sandals almost three weeks ago we also had a hard time > > getting her heels to stay completely flat. With her feet being so > > sensitive after removing the casts it was hard for us to just grab > > ahold of her feet to get them into her sandals. I did call > > and Dr. Ponseti and they both said not not worry about > > getting her heels completely flat. Her heel and toes seem to be > lined > > up and not at an angle. I thought that was kind of strange but > they > > said as long as her feet were not slipping out that it should be > > fine. They also said that with time it would be easier to get her > > heels completely flat. Over the past few weeks it has gotten > easier > > but they still aren't flat. I figure that they are the experts but > I > > can't help but worry since we don't return to see Dr. Ponseti > until > > the end of June. I have tightened the straps as snug as possible. > She > > has not had any blisters or sores and tolerates the sandals well. > > > > We were told to tighten the middle strap first. Many experienced > > parents on this site also suggested holding the sandal and pushing > > the heel down from the knee joint. Have you been able to get your > > sons heels completely flat in the sandals yet? Sorry to ramble on > so > > much. Hope things are going well!! > > > > Bridget and blcf 2/20/04 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 I'm glad to hear that things are getting easier with the sandals. You'll find that with each passing day his feet will be less sensitive. My daughter usually falls asleep as I put on her brace. I just wonder if there is something we should be watching for that would tell us that regression was occuring? After reading the many posts on this site and Dr. Ponseti's info, it seems that the chance of regression with proper and consistent brace wear is slim to none. I just hope we have the brace on right. Bridget > > Just wondering how things are going with the sandals? I didn't > have a > > chance to post the other day. When we moved our daughter into the > > sandals almost three weeks ago we also had a hard time > > getting her heels to stay completely flat. With her feet being so > > sensitive after removing the casts it was hard for us to just grab > > ahold of her feet to get them into her sandals. I did call > > and Dr. Ponseti and they both said not not worry about > > getting her heels completely flat. Her heel and toes seem to be > lined > > up and not at an angle. I thought that was kind of strange but > they > > said as long as her feet were not slipping out that it should be > > fine. They also said that with time it would be easier to get her > > heels completely flat. Over the past few weeks it has gotten > easier > > but they still aren't flat. I figure that they are the experts but > I > > can't help but worry since we don't return to see Dr. Ponseti > until > > the end of June. I have tightened the straps as snug as possible. > She > > has not had any blisters or sores and tolerates the sandals well. > > > > We were told to tighten the middle strap first. Many experienced > > parents on this site also suggested holding the sandal and pushing > > the heel down from the knee joint. Have you been able to get your > > sons heels completely flat in the sandals yet? Sorry to ramble on > so > > much. Hope things are going well!! > > > > Bridget and blcf 2/20/04 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 OK - I have a question about this heel not seating flat in the shoes. I wasn't tightening up Darbs shoes enough late last summer and she was slipping for a couple of weeks (no blisters - just slipped after a while but I didn't notice it for a long time for some reason). About that time I noticed her not putting her heel flat on the floor when she stood. I was concerned about relapse. I figured out she was slipping and that her foot was likely pointed a bit while wearing the shoes as a result. I concluded that was what was causing her to point more when out of the shoes. I adjusted how I put them on and made sure she was seated well in them again. The pointing stopped. I was happy. So if the heels aren't seated well in the new shoes wouldn't this be a problem? We don't have them, I don't know - which is why I'm asking. It just seems like it would cause a problem long term. Are you getting good dorsiflexion when the heel isn't seated down all the way still? Kori At 09:52 PM 5/14/2004, you wrote: >Hi, >It is getting a little easier to get them on. I am having exactly >what you described - his feet are sensitive so I am trying to be >gentle. It has been 5 or so days now, so we are getting better. The >heels still aren't completely flat, but aren't slipping. I have to >be careful how much I tighten or Garrett's feet swell a bit. It >seems to be a fine line. He has had no blisters. I am glad you >called - I was going to call Dr Ponseti on Monday to make sure. I >also worry that since we don't go back until July that if I am doing >something wrong there will be consequences for my son. Thanks for >your post, it made me feel better to know that another parent had >the same concerns. >Deana > > > > Just wondering how things are going with the sandals? I didn't >have a > > chance to post the other day. When we moved our daughter into the > > sandals almost three weeks ago we also had a hard time > > getting her heels to stay completely flat. With her feet being so > > sensitive after removing the casts it was hard for us to just grab > > ahold of her feet to get them into her sandals. I did call > > and Dr. Ponseti and they both said not not worry about > > getting her heels completely flat. Her heel and toes seem to be >lined > > up and not at an angle. I thought that was kind of strange but >they > > said as long as her feet were not slipping out that it should be > > fine. They also said that with time it would be easier to get her > > heels completely flat. Over the past few weeks it has gotten >easier > > but they still aren't flat. I figure that they are the experts but >I > > can't help but worry since we don't return to see Dr. Ponseti >until > > the end of June. I have tightened the straps as snug as possible. >She > > has not had any blisters or sores and tolerates the sandals well. > > > > We were told to tighten the middle strap first. Many experienced > > parents on this site also suggested holding the sandal and pushing > > the heel down from the knee joint. Have you been able to get your > > sons heels completely flat in the sandals yet? Sorry to ramble on >so > > much. Hope things are going well!! > > > > Bridget and blcf 2/20/04 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 OK - I have a question about this heel not seating flat in the shoes. I wasn't tightening up Darbs shoes enough late last summer and she was slipping for a couple of weeks (no blisters - just slipped after a while but I didn't notice it for a long time for some reason). About that time I noticed her not putting her heel flat on the floor when she stood. I was concerned about relapse. I figured out she was slipping and that her foot was likely pointed a bit while wearing the shoes as a result. I concluded that was what was causing her to point more when out of the shoes. I adjusted how I put them on and made sure she was seated well in them again. The pointing stopped. I was happy. So if the heels aren't seated well in the new shoes wouldn't this be a problem? We don't have them, I don't know - which is why I'm asking. It just seems like it would cause a problem long term. Are you getting good dorsiflexion when the heel isn't seated down all the way still? Kori At 09:52 PM 5/14/2004, you wrote: >Hi, >It is getting a little easier to get them on. I am having exactly >what you described - his feet are sensitive so I am trying to be >gentle. It has been 5 or so days now, so we are getting better. The >heels still aren't completely flat, but aren't slipping. I have to >be careful how much I tighten or Garrett's feet swell a bit. It >seems to be a fine line. He has had no blisters. I am glad you >called - I was going to call Dr Ponseti on Monday to make sure. I >also worry that since we don't go back until July that if I am doing >something wrong there will be consequences for my son. Thanks for >your post, it made me feel better to know that another parent had >the same concerns. >Deana > > > > Just wondering how things are going with the sandals? I didn't >have a > > chance to post the other day. When we moved our daughter into the > > sandals almost three weeks ago we also had a hard time > > getting her heels to stay completely flat. With her feet being so > > sensitive after removing the casts it was hard for us to just grab > > ahold of her feet to get them into her sandals. I did call > > and Dr. Ponseti and they both said not not worry about > > getting her heels completely flat. Her heel and toes seem to be >lined > > up and not at an angle. I thought that was kind of strange but >they > > said as long as her feet were not slipping out that it should be > > fine. They also said that with time it would be easier to get her > > heels completely flat. Over the past few weeks it has gotten >easier > > but they still aren't flat. I figure that they are the experts but >I > > can't help but worry since we don't return to see Dr. Ponseti >until > > the end of June. I have tightened the straps as snug as possible. >She > > has not had any blisters or sores and tolerates the sandals well. > > > > We were told to tighten the middle strap first. Many experienced > > parents on this site also suggested holding the sandal and pushing > > the heel down from the knee joint. Have you been able to get your > > sons heels completely flat in the sandals yet? Sorry to ramble on >so > > much. Hope things are going well!! > > > > Bridget and blcf 2/20/04 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 That is a hard thing to figure out, Kori. The shoes are a bit different .... the shoe itself has a heel pocket. That is to say that the inside of the shoe is not flat like the Markell shoes. The shoe kind of angles up a bit on the inside. That is, I assume, to battle the problems with babies with especially bendy feet working their way out of the shoes. I did something similar with the Markell shoes by creating a wedge under the forefoot. With the shoes that isnt necessary. Also, the shoes have a deeper back area than the new Markell shoes. I think that the basic theory is that as your child wears them, the heel will eventually begin to move down and back. Remember that these shoes, unlike the Markell shoes, can actually help attain full correction in a foot that was not able to be fully corrected by casting alone. I will try to take some detailed pics of the shoes later today so that this will make more sense than just rambling Angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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