Re: Any ideas for countering the DBB Houdini Act?

[Guest guest]

Hi, Laurie-

Sorry you've got a Houdini on your hands! I know one thing that has

worked in the past for some parents is to lace the shoes upside down

so that the knots are at the toe end of the shoe. It takes longer

for the parent to put the shoes on, but then if the child unties

them, it would be more difficult to actually get the shoe off.

You can try a lace lock/ lace keeper too, but it seems that they're

difficult to find, and most kids that can pick the double knot apart

can get the lace lock off too.

This tip probably won't help Vinny but maybe others- you can get

socks with triple cuff length and fold them down to cover the laces.

Did he get new larger shoes recently so he has more room to wiggle?

Sometimes the socks with the rubber grippers on the bottom help to

hold the foot in place more firmly. Do his shoes have the plastizode

insert in the heel? This should help prevent the escape from the

shoes when they're tied up.

Hope something here is of some help.

Regards-

& (3-16-00)

left clubfoot

[Guest guest]

,

Now that you mentioned it, I have heard of lacing upside-down. I

think that will have to be done as soon as we get home tonight.

We've tried the fold over sock thing... that doesn't last long.

Vinny did get his new size shoes about a month ago. the first couple

of weeks were fine, but since he learned how to stand you can

actually see him thinking 'Forget these things! I can fly without

them!' He is such a little devil. The double knots are nothing for

him to undo. I'll fight with the knots because they are so small and

tight, but his little fingers just unravels them like a loose ball of

yarn! I've looked for the lace locks... They used to be very popular,

but are very scarce now.

Well, time to fly home! Thanks again,

Laurie - Vinnys Mommy

> Hi, Laurie-

> Sorry you've got a Houdini on your hands! I know one thing that

has

> worked in the past for some parents is to lace the shoes upside

down

> so that the knots are at the toe end of the shoe. It takes longer

> for the parent to put the shoes on, but then if the child unties

> them, it would be more difficult to actually get the shoe off.

> You can try a lace lock/ lace keeper too, but it seems that they're

> difficult to find, and most kids that can pick the double knot

apart

> can get the lace lock off too.

> This tip probably won't help Vinny but maybe others- you can get

> socks with triple cuff length and fold them down to cover the laces.

>

> Did he get new larger shoes recently so he has more room to

wiggle?

> Sometimes the socks with the rubber grippers on the bottom help to

> hold the foot in place more firmly. Do his shoes have the

plastizode

> insert in the heel? This should help prevent the escape from the

> shoes when they're tied up.

> Hope something here is of some help.

> Regards-

> & (3-16-00)

> left clubfoot

[Guest guest]

,

Now that you mentioned it, I have heard of lacing upside-down. I

think that will have to be done as soon as we get home tonight.

We've tried the fold over sock thing... that doesn't last long.

Vinny did get his new size shoes about a month ago. the first couple

of weeks were fine, but since he learned how to stand you can

actually see him thinking 'Forget these things! I can fly without

them!' He is such a little devil. The double knots are nothing for

him to undo. I'll fight with the knots because they are so small and

tight, but his little fingers just unravels them like a loose ball of

yarn! I've looked for the lace locks... They used to be very popular,

but are very scarce now.

Well, time to fly home! Thanks again,

Laurie - Vinnys Mommy

> Hi, Laurie-

> Sorry you've got a Houdini on your hands! I know one thing that

has

> worked in the past for some parents is to lace the shoes upside

down

> so that the knots are at the toe end of the shoe. It takes longer

> for the parent to put the shoes on, but then if the child unties

> them, it would be more difficult to actually get the shoe off.

> You can try a lace lock/ lace keeper too, but it seems that they're

> difficult to find, and most kids that can pick the double knot

apart

> can get the lace lock off too.

> This tip probably won't help Vinny but maybe others- you can get

> socks with triple cuff length and fold them down to cover the laces.

>

> Did he get new larger shoes recently so he has more room to

wiggle?

> Sometimes the socks with the rubber grippers on the bottom help to

> hold the foot in place more firmly. Do his shoes have the

plastizode

> insert in the heel? This should help prevent the escape from the

> shoes when they're tied up.

> Hope something here is of some help.

> Regards-

> & (3-16-00)

> left clubfoot

[Guest guest]

hello,

in the files of the forums you will find: " DBB articles from Iowa "

from " jennifertrevillian " . from ther click on the last file-

FtAbO_Inst.doc, it helpd us.

good luck

Idit, mom to Oshri, 7.5 month. BL CF, heavy DBB for 16 hours, 2

teeth. http://truly_clubfoot.tripod.com

> Okay, Vinny has finally had it with his shoes. Now that he's

> crawling, he figured out how to pull himself up on his bar and

> balance. He's even figured how to wiggle along the sofa in the

bar.

> However, he has decided it is considerably easier to cruise the

> furniture without his shoes on. He is supposed to be wearing the

DBB

> 23/day still. His appointment is Friday, then we expect he'll be

> given a 6 hour per day allowance. Anyway, I have tightened the

strap

> as tight as I could without slicing his little foot in half and

> wouldn't you know it... within 5 minutes they are off! Sometimes

he

> unties them, sometimes he doesn't. Every morning we have woken up

to

> no shoes or one shoe. I put them back on and by the time we are

at

> the sitter they are off. When I first joined this group I had to

> laugh when I read an entry about a mom ready to duck tape the

shoes

> on. I'm finding myself seriously considering this. I have a roll

of

> it at my desk. I'm afraid to bring it home because Little

(stinker)

> Vinny just might find himself with silver sticky feet! What on

earth

> can be done to stop this madness... please answer after you stop

> laughing hysterically. It's easier to read the type.

[Guest guest]

hello,

in the files of the forums you will find: " DBB articles from Iowa "

from " jennifertrevillian " . from ther click on the last file-

FtAbO_Inst.doc, it helpd us.

good luck

Idit, mom to Oshri, 7.5 month. BL CF, heavy DBB for 16 hours, 2

teeth. http://truly_clubfoot.tripod.com

> Okay, Vinny has finally had it with his shoes. Now that he's

> crawling, he figured out how to pull himself up on his bar and

> balance. He's even figured how to wiggle along the sofa in the

bar.

> However, he has decided it is considerably easier to cruise the

> furniture without his shoes on. He is supposed to be wearing the

DBB

> 23/day still. His appointment is Friday, then we expect he'll be

> given a 6 hour per day allowance. Anyway, I have tightened the

strap

> as tight as I could without slicing his little foot in half and

> wouldn't you know it... within 5 minutes they are off! Sometimes

he

> unties them, sometimes he doesn't. Every morning we have woken up

to

> no shoes or one shoe. I put them back on and by the time we are

at

> the sitter they are off. When I first joined this group I had to

> laugh when I read an entry about a mom ready to duck tape the

shoes

> on. I'm finding myself seriously considering this. I have a roll

of

> it at my desk. I'm afraid to bring it home because Little

(stinker)

> Vinny just might find himself with silver sticky feet! What on

earth

> can be done to stop this madness... please answer after you stop

> laughing hysterically. It's easier to read the type.

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

Lacing upside down worked for us also. was also very good at

getting the double knowts undone. Do several knots just don't stop

at 2. By the way, I was the one who considered the duct tape:) I

ended up not having to resort to that. Good Luck!

Pam and (8-12-01)

> > Hi, Laurie-

> > Sorry you've got a Houdini on your hands! I know one thing that

> has

> > worked in the past for some parents is to lace the shoes upside

> down

> > so that the knots are at the toe end of the shoe. It takes

longer

> > for the parent to put the shoes on, but then if the child unties

> > them, it would be more difficult to actually get the shoe off.

> > You can try a lace lock/ lace keeper too, but it seems that

they're

> > difficult to find, and most kids that can pick the double knot

> apart

> > can get the lace lock off too.

> > This tip probably won't help Vinny but maybe others- you can get

> > socks with triple cuff length and fold them down to cover the

laces.

> >

> > Did he get new larger shoes recently so he has more room to

> wiggle?

> > Sometimes the socks with the rubber grippers on the bottom help

to

> > hold the foot in place more firmly. Do his shoes have the

> plastizode

> > insert in the heel? This should help prevent the escape from the

> > shoes when they're tied up.

> > Hope something here is of some help.

> > Regards-

> > & (3-16-00)

> > left clubfoot

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

Lacing upside down worked for us also. was also very good at

getting the double knowts undone. Do several knots just don't stop

at 2. By the way, I was the one who considered the duct tape:) I

ended up not having to resort to that. Good Luck!

Pam and (8-12-01)

> > Hi, Laurie-

> > Sorry you've got a Houdini on your hands! I know one thing that

> has

> > worked in the past for some parents is to lace the shoes upside

> down

> > so that the knots are at the toe end of the shoe. It takes

longer

> > for the parent to put the shoes on, but then if the child unties

> > them, it would be more difficult to actually get the shoe off.

> > You can try a lace lock/ lace keeper too, but it seems that

they're

> > difficult to find, and most kids that can pick the double knot

> apart

> > can get the lace lock off too.

> > This tip probably won't help Vinny but maybe others- you can get

> > socks with triple cuff length and fold them down to cover the

laces.

> >

> > Did he get new larger shoes recently so he has more room to

> wiggle?

> > Sometimes the socks with the rubber grippers on the bottom help

to

> > hold the foot in place more firmly. Do his shoes have the

> plastizode

> > insert in the heel? This should help prevent the escape from the

> > shoes when they're tied up.

> > Hope something here is of some help.

> > Regards-

> > & (3-16-00)

> > left clubfoot

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this helps, but if you are looking for the lock-knot

things, I just saw them in our local Stride Rite store.