Re: If chelation helps, how can I judge other treatments?

[Guest guest]

I think it is very important to add things very gradually and limit the

number of treatments you are doing at one time. I've seen far too many kids

regress due to too much being added all at once.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

I think this sounds very reasonable. We just stopped everything at one

point because we couldn't tell what was doing what and it didn't seem to

make any difference at all. Hoping chelation will make the difference

though.

H.

From: " ixacta " <ixacta@...>

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 00:42:07 -0000

Subject: [ ] If chelation helps, how can I judge other

treatments?

I'm thinking of telling me DAN dr at our next appointment that I want

to stop doing a lot of the stuff he's got my son on, and also start

turning down the new stuff he's suggesting. Here's why:

Before seeing the DAN dr, we did have noticeable improvements with a

multivitamin supplement and from GFCF diet, and GSE works wonders for

yeast.

After seeing the DAN dr, we tried lots of stuff over the past year,

high dose B-6, TMG, folinic, methyl B12 shots, cod liver oil, enada

(sp?), epsom salts, mct oil, lauricidin, enzymes, etc etc. None of

this made the slightest positive effect that I could see, and B-6 and

enzymes made him crazy/hyper. So, following the DAN dr's advice, we

just stayed plateau'd where we were until finally starting chelation.

We finally started chelating 3-4 months ago, following Andy's not

DAN's protocol. We are (not surprising to you all, I guess), seeing

marked improvement after each round.

Dr keeps pushing us to try new things, glutathione being the biggie,

but he'll suggest just about anything that someone touts at a DAN

conference. I guess they need guinea pigs. Anyway, I asked him how I

was supposed to judge the effectiveness of anything we try. While

he's improving on chelation, how would I be able to tell if any other

treatments are contributing to the improvement? I'm leaning towards

just telling the dr that if my son ever plateaus on chelation, I'd be

willing to try these new things, but not until then.

What do you think?

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[Guest guest]

> I'm thinking of telling me DAN dr at our next appointment that I want

> to stop doing a lot of the stuff he's got my son on, and also start

> turning down the new stuff he's suggesting. Here's why:

If he is a good doctor, he will not make you do things that you don't

agree with.

>>I asked him how I

> was supposed to judge the effectiveness of anything we try. While

> he's improving on chelation, how would I be able to tell if any other

> treatments are contributing to the improvement?

Give anything new, between rounds. This is what I did with my son.

I'm leaning towards

> just telling the dr that if my son ever plateaus on chelation, I'd be

> willing to try these new things, but not until then.

This sounds like a good idea.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I'm thinking of telling me DAN dr at our next appointment that I

want

> to stop doing a lot of the stuff he's got my son on, and also

start

> turning down the new stuff he's suggesting. Here's why:

>

> Before seeing the DAN dr, we did have noticeable improvements with

a

> multivitamin supplement and from GFCF diet, and GSE works wonders

for

> yeast.

>

> After seeing the DAN dr, we tried lots of stuff over the past

year,

> high dose B-6, TMG, folinic, methyl B12 shots, cod liver oil,

enada

> (sp?), epsom salts, mct oil, lauricidin, enzymes, etc etc. None of

> this made the slightest positive effect that I could see, and B-6

and

> enzymes made him crazy/hyper. So, following the DAN dr's advice,

we

> just stayed plateau'd where we were until finally starting

chelation.

>

> We finally started chelating 3-4 months ago, following Andy's not

> DAN's protocol. We are (not surprising to you all, I guess),

seeing

> marked improvement after each round.

>

> Dr keeps pushing us to try new things, glutathione being the

biggie,

> but he'll suggest just about anything that someone touts at a DAN

> conference. I guess they need guinea pigs. Anyway, I asked him how

I

> was supposed to judge the effectiveness of anything we try. While

> he's improving on chelation, how would I be able to tell if any

other

> treatments are contributing to the improvement? I'm leaning

towards

> just telling the dr that if my son ever plateaus on chelation, I'd

be

> willing to try these new things, but not until then.

>

> What do you think?

I think:

1. it is up to you what to do

2. yes, combining many things can be confusing (in terms of

" which thing had which effect " ) but sometimes that is still

a good choice. It is " a tradeoff " . For myself, while I think

it is VERY nice to " know " the effects of each thing, I ALSO

do not always want to wait forever before trying other things.

So, I do not do everything " in isolation " . In fact, that would

seriously cramp my life, since I do MANY kinds of fun therapies

ALL THE TIME, or much of the time.

3. another point here is that I would consider EACH thing.

That is, even aside from the " combining things is confusing "

issue, you may not WANT to do some of the things he requests,

even by themselves. I would consider what each of the

suggestions is also. Although if you just want " no more " for

a while, that is also okay. (see #1 and #2 LOL)

good wishes,

Moria