Re: Trembling, Vomitting, Chills on first round ALA only - HELP!!!

February 2, 2004

In a message dated 2/2/2004 11:15:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,

sawyera@... writes:

> What do I do about this fever now. I

> know Tylenol is a no/no, is Motrin or Advil okay?

I can't answer your chelation questions, but for the fever, try to avoid meds,

including Advil etc. (very tough on the gut). If he's uncomfortable, try putting

him in a warm bath (not hot, not cool). Also cool washcloths can feel good.

Nell

February 2, 2004

I think it sounds like he is just getting sick but you can switch

brands to make sure.

nne

> Does this sound related to a bad reaction to a round or is he just

> getting sick? We went from Friday to this morning with no

> problems. Around 10:30 a.m. he was saying he was cold (but it

isn't

> cold inside the house) and he was shaking and trembling. He

didn't

> seem to have a fever. He threw up his 10:45 a.m. dose within 5

> minutes of taking it and was hot when I took off his clothes to

put

> him in the shower. He weighes 40-42 pounds and was getting 10 mg.

> every three hours during the day and four at night. I through the

> archives back to post 100 and began reading forward trying to

learn

> everything I could and I read where Andy said back in the year

2000

> that some people don't do well with Soloray ALA. This is what we

> have. Could it be that? Obviously this round is cut prematurely

> short, how does this hurt him? We were seeing some promising and

> encouraging things from him. What do I do about this fever now.

I

> know Tylenol is a no/no, is Motrin or Advil okay? Thanks for any

> help. KIM

February 2, 2004

nne,

Thank you for responding. I've spent the entire day reading the archives and

can't find anything similar in any posts.

He only vomited that once right after the morning dose. We stopped after that

b/c I wasn't sure what might be the cause and he seems fine. The only things we

noticed during the round were increased warmth/sweating, especially at night

while he slept. His urine output seemed decreased the first 24 hours then

seemed to be back to normal and his appetite and thirst definitely decreased

during the round. Since it doesn't appear that he was just getting sick, does

anyone have any ideas how this might be related to chelation (or worse high

Copper)?

-KIM

[ ] Re: Trembling, Vomitting, Chills on first round ALA

only - HELP!!!

I think it sounds like he is just getting sick but you can switch

brands to make sure.

nne

> Does this sound related to a bad reaction to a round or is he just

> getting sick? We went from Friday to this morning with no

> problems. Around 10:30 a.m. he was saying he was cold (but it

isn't

> cold inside the house) and he was shaking and trembling. He

didn't

> seem to have a fever. He threw up his 10:45 a.m. dose within 5

> minutes of taking it and was hot when I took off his clothes to

put

> him in the shower. He weighes 40-42 pounds and was getting 10 mg.

> every three hours during the day and four at night. I through the

> archives back to post 100 and began reading forward trying to

learn

> everything I could and I read where Andy said back in the year

2000

> that some people don't do well with Soloray ALA. This is what we

> have. Could it be that? Obviously this round is cut prematurely

> short, how does this hurt him? We were seeing some promising and

> encouraging things from him. What do I do about this fever now.

I

> know Tylenol is a no/no, is Motrin or Advil okay? Thanks for any

> help. KIM

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February 3, 2004

Take his temperature. If it gets over 104 anything goes, worry about

the fever, not the OTC stuff.

Generally I am a fan of aspirin though I know the MD workd is horrified

because they are sure it causes Reye's syndrome. Apirin does not mess

with your liver like all the others do.

Also if he is really miserable, do see your pediatrician (or a good

doctor if that is different), hold your cards close to the chest about

chelation and vitamins or all you'll get is crap about stopping that

and an irresponsible lack of care. But the doc will do find at

resolving the urgent problem - and you shouldn't be scared of whatever

meds s/he wants to hand out - then you can get back to the other stuff.

Aside from being good at crisis management, doctors are GREAT at having

seen the last 300 kids who got this same problem last week and usually

recognize what is going on immediately.

Andy . . . . . . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .

> > What do I do about this fever now. I

> > know Tylenol is a no/no, is Motrin or Advil okay?

>

> I can't answer your chelation questions, but for the fever, try to avoid meds,

including Advil etc. (very tough on the gut). If he's uncomfortable, try putting

him in a warm bath (not hot, not cool). Also cool washcloths can feel good.

>

> Nell

February 3, 2004

Thanks Andy. He was only sick that one time and the fever is gone too. He

seemed fine within an hour or two. His appetite is poor and he isn't drinking

as much as he usually does but other than that - nothing. We'll try another

round starting Friday. If he vomits again after a dose what, if anything, could

that mean? Again, thank you sincerely for answering. I've been glued to the

computer all day and have been worried sick. -KIM