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All things considered equal- I think that the causes of relapse at a

young age are most likely the same whether the child has surgery or

is corrected non-surgically. The doctor cannot predict how the foot

will react or the foot components' interaction as the child grows...

you probably won't find any surgeon who can guarantee that one

surgery will fix the foot 100% for the entire life of the child.

Initial correction, maybe, but no " lifetime guarantees " .

I asked this of my original doctor also when he said needed the

PMR. He said that he couldn't guarantee that she wouldn't need

additional surgeries, and couldn't/wouldn't even give me any

percentages of his patients who needed maintenance surgeries, and

then proceeded to ask if we'd participate in their long-term follow

up study on surgical patients. (he'd been treating kids for about 15

years at the time)

I think that a child who is corrected non-surgically as an infant

most likely wouldn't need surgery as an adult- once they're out of

that " growth spurt " stage since the foot components are in the proper

position and should function 100% normally. Whereas a child who has

surgery as an infant " could " need additional surgery as an adult if

the reconstruction was done improperly or if complications occur over

time. I think these wouldn't be considered " relapses " though, more

like " maintenance " or " corrective " surgeries like you mentioned, and

it's probably not as frequent now since surgical techniques have

advanced over the years.

Regards,

>

> ,

>

> That's interesting. I wonder how they'll decide in the future on

> recommended FAB wear. When we first researched it last year, we

thought

> it would be until about 2 and a half years. Now it's a little

daunting

> to think may be in the FAB until he's 4 or 5 to avoid

relapse. But

> time flies, I can't believe it's already 1 year since he started in

> them! I'd much rather do the FAB for longer than have any

kind of

> surgery, luckily he tolerates them very well.

>

> I saw my cousin last Sunday for the first time since was

born. He

> is 32 and was born with unilateral clubfoot. He had serial casting

> until a year old and then surgery, he had more surgery at 6 years of

> age. It was interesting talking to him about his experiences so

far.

>

> He remembers wearing corrective shoes at night, probably until the

age

> of 10. I suppose there's also a chance of relapse with surgery -

even

> though the doctors I spoke to last year told me that their surgery

would

> be '100% successful in correcting the foot'. I'm not sure if the

repeat

> surgeries that occur are because of relapse or the foot being

restricted

> from natural development because of scar tissue, etc?

>

> My cousin's foot is quite immobile, he can't stand on tiptoe, can't

move

> it as freely as his normal foot, but he told me that he hasn't

really

> suffered much pain and is very active in sport (runs, cycles). He

said

> he's kind of got over his hang-up about the scars on his foot and

calf,

> but it was quite a problem when he was younger.

>

> and

> 24th Jan 2003, bilateral cf

> www.clubfoot.co.za

>

>

>

> Re: Thanks so much-one more question

>

> Antoinette,

> When I took my daughter to Iowa for her check up in early March,

Dr.

> Ponseti and Dr. Morcuende told me that they have been seeing a

number

> of older children have sudden and severe regression. I'll try to

> relay what I overheard- but keep in mind that I'm just a parent. I

> don't think this is a new phenomenon, it's just that parents are

> doing a better job of taking their children in for follow up

> appointments and staying in touch with the doctors more closely, so

> the doctors are able to piece together more information since they

> have more patients and more thorough records for each patient. It

> seems that the working theory is that some children have relapses

> between the ages of 3-5 due to a sudden growth spurt where the

> muscles/ligaments cannot keep up with the bone growth. For

example,

> a child's clubfoot was completely corrected and the child stopped

> wearing the brace at age 3, but shortly thereafter the child

> experienced a quick regression and needed the ATTT procedure by age

> 4. Dr. Morcuende said that the severity of the deformity at birth

> does not appear to be related to the onset of regression at an

older

> age. I'm guessing that Tina's latest post about Kavan regressing

is

> another example of this situation where a sudden growth spurt

causes

> the foot to relapse.

> Try to keep in mind that if the brace is worn as prescribed, the

> chance of relapse is 7% or less, but over 70% if it is not worn

> diligently.

>

> I think most relapses happen before age 3 and are related to the

> child not wearing the brace as prescribed. It makes sense in my

> mind, that the child is growing very quickly between the ages of 1

> and 3, so that's why the brace is important, to maintain the proper

> position of the feet as the legs are growing and changing...much

like

> the occasional growth spurts in the older children- a child under 3

> is in a nearly " constant growth spurt " , making the brace wear that

> much more important.

> It will be interesting to see if the protocol for brace wear in

older

> children will change in the near future as the doctors gather more

> information about the causes and prevention of regression.

> Please remember the comments are just my take on what I heard the

> doctors talking about.

> Regards,

> & (3-16-00)

> left clubfoot, switched to Ponseti method at 4 months old

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helo . I leave in Israel where at least one Dr. doesn't put the

shoes specifically because he doesn't believe the parents will put

them on!!! I know how you feel. In the forum in Hebrew in Israel I

try to convince parents to read about the Ponseti method and I must

say that it helps. At least one couple in the past 2 month (it is a

new forum) moved to the mouthed, and parents to be are not even

considering other options.

idit. mom to Oshri, 7 month

> >

> > ,

> >

> > That's interesting. I wonder how they'll decide in the future on

> > recommended FAB wear. When we first researched it last year, we

> thought

> > it would be until about 2 and a half years. Now it's a little

> daunting

> > to think may be in the FAB until he's 4 or 5 to avoid

> relapse. But

> > time flies, I can't believe it's already 1 year since he started

in

> > them! I'd much rather do the FAB for longer than have any

> kind of

> > surgery, luckily he tolerates them very well.

> >

> > I saw my cousin last Sunday for the first time since was

> born. He

> > is 32 and was born with unilateral clubfoot. He had serial

casting

> > until a year old and then surgery, he had more surgery at 6

years of

> > age. It was interesting talking to him about his experiences so

> far.

> >

> > He remembers wearing corrective shoes at night, probably until

the

> age

> > of 10. I suppose there's also a chance of relapse with surgery -

> even

> > though the doctors I spoke to last year told me that their

surgery

> would

> > be '100% successful in correcting the foot'. I'm not sure if the

> repeat

> > surgeries that occur are because of relapse or the foot being

> restricted

> > from natural development because of scar tissue, etc?

> >

> > My cousin's foot is quite immobile, he can't stand on tiptoe,

can't

> move

> > it as freely as his normal foot, but he told me that he hasn't

> really

> > suffered much pain and is very active in sport (runs, cycles).

He

> said

> > he's kind of got over his hang-up about the scars on his foot

and

> calf,

> > but it was quite a problem when he was younger.

> >

> > and

> > 24th Jan 2003, bilateral cf

> > www.clubfoot.co.za

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Thanks so much-one more

question

> >

> > Antoinette,

> > When I took my daughter to Iowa for her check up in early March,

> Dr.

> > Ponseti and Dr. Morcuende told me that they have been seeing a

> number

> > of older children have sudden and severe regression. I'll try

to

> > relay what I overheard- but keep in mind that I'm just a parent.

I

> > don't think this is a new phenomenon, it's just that parents are

> > doing a better job of taking their children in for follow up

> > appointments and staying in touch with the doctors more closely,

so

> > the doctors are able to piece together more information since

they

> > have more patients and more thorough records for each patient.

It

> > seems that the working theory is that some children have

relapses

> > between the ages of 3-5 due to a sudden growth spurt where the

> > muscles/ligaments cannot keep up with the bone growth. For

> example,

> > a child's clubfoot was completely corrected and the child

stopped

> > wearing the brace at age 3, but shortly thereafter the child

> > experienced a quick regression and needed the ATTT procedure by

age

> > 4. Dr. Morcuende said that the severity of the deformity at

birth

> > does not appear to be related to the onset of regression at an

> older

> > age. I'm guessing that Tina's latest post about Kavan

regressing

> is

> > another example of this situation where a sudden growth spurt

> causes

> > the foot to relapse.

> > Try to keep in mind that if the brace is worn as prescribed, the

> > chance of relapse is 7% or less, but over 70% if it is not worn

> > diligently.

> >

> > I think most relapses happen before age 3 and are related to the

> > child not wearing the brace as prescribed. It makes sense in my

> > mind, that the child is growing very quickly between the ages of

1

> > and 3, so that's why the brace is important, to maintain the

proper

> > position of the feet as the legs are growing and changing...much

> like

> > the occasional growth spurts in the older children- a child

under 3

> > is in a nearly " constant growth spurt " , making the brace wear

that

> > much more important.

> > It will be interesting to see if the protocol for brace wear in

> older

> > children will change in the near future as the doctors gather

more

> > information about the causes and prevention of regression.

> > Please remember the comments are just my take on what I heard

the

> > doctors talking about.

> > Regards,

> > & (3-16-00)

> > left clubfoot, switched to Ponseti method at 4 months old

>

>

>

>

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, as with most things, I think that education is the key.

Certainly, there will always be people who are more than happy to

just follow along and listen to a doctors recommendations, be it

surgery or not, without researching their options. I think though

that the tide is changing in that more people are no longer willing

to put their fate (or that of their child) in the hands of one

medical professional without at least investigating their

options...this is evident with this list! By continuing to reach out

and put the information out there so that more parents can educate

themselves, you are making great strides to improve the quality of

life for many future CF babies in SA! Soon enough those doctors will

be forced to sit up and take notice.

Daiga

> >

> > ,

> >

> > That's interesting. I wonder how they'll decide in the future on

> > recommended FAB wear. When we first researched it last year, we

> thought

> > it would be until about 2 and a half years. Now it's a little

> daunting

> > to think may be in the FAB until he's 4 or 5 to avoid

> relapse. But

> > time flies, I can't believe it's already 1 year since he started

in

> > them! I'd much rather do the FAB for longer than have any

> kind of

> > surgery, luckily he tolerates them very well.

> >

> > I saw my cousin last Sunday for the first time since was

> born. He

> > is 32 and was born with unilateral clubfoot. He had serial

casting

> > until a year old and then surgery, he had more surgery at 6 years

of

> > age. It was interesting talking to him about his experiences so

> far.

> >

> > He remembers wearing corrective shoes at night, probably until

the

> age

> > of 10. I suppose there's also a chance of relapse with surgery -

> even

> > though the doctors I spoke to last year told me that their

surgery

> would

> > be '100% successful in correcting the foot'. I'm not sure if the

> repeat

> > surgeries that occur are because of relapse or the foot being

> restricted

> > from natural development because of scar tissue, etc?

> >

> > My cousin's foot is quite immobile, he can't stand on tiptoe,

can't

> move

> > it as freely as his normal foot, but he told me that he hasn't

> really

> > suffered much pain and is very active in sport (runs, cycles). He

> said

> > he's kind of got over his hang-up about the scars on his foot and

> calf,

> > but it was quite a problem when he was younger.

> >

> > and

> > 24th Jan 2003, bilateral cf

> > www.clubfoot.co.za

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Thanks so much-one more question

> >

> > Antoinette,

> > When I took my daughter to Iowa for her check up in early March,

> Dr.

> > Ponseti and Dr. Morcuende told me that they have been seeing a

> number

> > of older children have sudden and severe regression. I'll try to

> > relay what I overheard- but keep in mind that I'm just a parent.

I

> > don't think this is a new phenomenon, it's just that parents are

> > doing a better job of taking their children in for follow up

> > appointments and staying in touch with the doctors more closely,

so

> > the doctors are able to piece together more information since

they

> > have more patients and more thorough records for each patient.

It

> > seems that the working theory is that some children have relapses

> > between the ages of 3-5 due to a sudden growth spurt where the

> > muscles/ligaments cannot keep up with the bone growth. For

> example,

> > a child's clubfoot was completely corrected and the child stopped

> > wearing the brace at age 3, but shortly thereafter the child

> > experienced a quick regression and needed the ATTT procedure by

age

> > 4. Dr. Morcuende said that the severity of the deformity at

birth

> > does not appear to be related to the onset of regression at an

> older

> > age. I'm guessing that Tina's latest post about Kavan regressing

> is

> > another example of this situation where a sudden growth spurt

> causes

> > the foot to relapse.

> > Try to keep in mind that if the brace is worn as prescribed, the

> > chance of relapse is 7% or less, but over 70% if it is not worn

> > diligently.

> >

> > I think most relapses happen before age 3 and are related to the

> > child not wearing the brace as prescribed. It makes sense in my

> > mind, that the child is growing very quickly between the ages of

1

> > and 3, so that's why the brace is important, to maintain the

proper

> > position of the feet as the legs are growing and changing...much

> like

> > the occasional growth spurts in the older children- a child under

3

> > is in a nearly " constant growth spurt " , making the brace wear

that

> > much more important.

> > It will be interesting to see if the protocol for brace wear in

> older

> > children will change in the near future as the doctors gather

more

> > information about the causes and prevention of regression.

> > Please remember the comments are just my take on what I heard the

> > doctors talking about.

> > Regards,

> > & (3-16-00)

> > left clubfoot, switched to Ponseti method at 4 months old

>

>

>

>

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, as with most things, I think that education is the key.

Certainly, there will always be people who are more than happy to

just follow along and listen to a doctors recommendations, be it

surgery or not, without researching their options. I think though

that the tide is changing in that more people are no longer willing

to put their fate (or that of their child) in the hands of one

medical professional without at least investigating their

options...this is evident with this list! By continuing to reach out

and put the information out there so that more parents can educate

themselves, you are making great strides to improve the quality of

life for many future CF babies in SA! Soon enough those doctors will

be forced to sit up and take notice.

Daiga

> >

> > ,

> >

> > That's interesting. I wonder how they'll decide in the future on

> > recommended FAB wear. When we first researched it last year, we

> thought

> > it would be until about 2 and a half years. Now it's a little

> daunting

> > to think may be in the FAB until he's 4 or 5 to avoid

> relapse. But

> > time flies, I can't believe it's already 1 year since he started

in

> > them! I'd much rather do the FAB for longer than have any

> kind of

> > surgery, luckily he tolerates them very well.

> >

> > I saw my cousin last Sunday for the first time since was

> born. He

> > is 32 and was born with unilateral clubfoot. He had serial

casting

> > until a year old and then surgery, he had more surgery at 6 years

of

> > age. It was interesting talking to him about his experiences so

> far.

> >

> > He remembers wearing corrective shoes at night, probably until

the

> age

> > of 10. I suppose there's also a chance of relapse with surgery -

> even

> > though the doctors I spoke to last year told me that their

surgery

> would

> > be '100% successful in correcting the foot'. I'm not sure if the

> repeat

> > surgeries that occur are because of relapse or the foot being

> restricted

> > from natural development because of scar tissue, etc?

> >

> > My cousin's foot is quite immobile, he can't stand on tiptoe,

can't

> move

> > it as freely as his normal foot, but he told me that he hasn't

> really

> > suffered much pain and is very active in sport (runs, cycles). He

> said

> > he's kind of got over his hang-up about the scars on his foot and

> calf,

> > but it was quite a problem when he was younger.

> >

> > and

> > 24th Jan 2003, bilateral cf

> > www.clubfoot.co.za

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Thanks so much-one more question

> >

> > Antoinette,

> > When I took my daughter to Iowa for her check up in early March,

> Dr.

> > Ponseti and Dr. Morcuende told me that they have been seeing a

> number

> > of older children have sudden and severe regression. I'll try to

> > relay what I overheard- but keep in mind that I'm just a parent.

I

> > don't think this is a new phenomenon, it's just that parents are

> > doing a better job of taking their children in for follow up

> > appointments and staying in touch with the doctors more closely,

so

> > the doctors are able to piece together more information since

they

> > have more patients and more thorough records for each patient.

It

> > seems that the working theory is that some children have relapses

> > between the ages of 3-5 due to a sudden growth spurt where the

> > muscles/ligaments cannot keep up with the bone growth. For

> example,

> > a child's clubfoot was completely corrected and the child stopped

> > wearing the brace at age 3, but shortly thereafter the child

> > experienced a quick regression and needed the ATTT procedure by

age

> > 4. Dr. Morcuende said that the severity of the deformity at

birth

> > does not appear to be related to the onset of regression at an

> older

> > age. I'm guessing that Tina's latest post about Kavan regressing

> is

> > another example of this situation where a sudden growth spurt

> causes

> > the foot to relapse.

> > Try to keep in mind that if the brace is worn as prescribed, the

> > chance of relapse is 7% or less, but over 70% if it is not worn

> > diligently.

> >

> > I think most relapses happen before age 3 and are related to the

> > child not wearing the brace as prescribed. It makes sense in my

> > mind, that the child is growing very quickly between the ages of

1

> > and 3, so that's why the brace is important, to maintain the

proper

> > position of the feet as the legs are growing and changing...much

> like

> > the occasional growth spurts in the older children- a child under

3

> > is in a nearly " constant growth spurt " , making the brace wear

that

> > much more important.

> > It will be interesting to see if the protocol for brace wear in

> older

> > children will change in the near future as the doctors gather

more

> > information about the causes and prevention of regression.

> > Please remember the comments are just my take on what I heard the

> > doctors talking about.

> > Regards,

> > & (3-16-00)

> > left clubfoot, switched to Ponseti method at 4 months old

>

>

>

>

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, as with most things, I think that education is the key.

Certainly, there will always be people who are more than happy to

just follow along and listen to a doctors recommendations, be it

surgery or not, without researching their options. I think though

that the tide is changing in that more people are no longer willing

to put their fate (or that of their child) in the hands of one

medical professional without at least investigating their

options...this is evident with this list! By continuing to reach out

and put the information out there so that more parents can educate

themselves, you are making great strides to improve the quality of

life for many future CF babies in SA! Soon enough those doctors will

be forced to sit up and take notice.

Daiga

> >

> > ,

> >

> > That's interesting. I wonder how they'll decide in the future on

> > recommended FAB wear. When we first researched it last year, we

> thought

> > it would be until about 2 and a half years. Now it's a little

> daunting

> > to think may be in the FAB until he's 4 or 5 to avoid

> relapse. But

> > time flies, I can't believe it's already 1 year since he started

in

> > them! I'd much rather do the FAB for longer than have any

> kind of

> > surgery, luckily he tolerates them very well.

> >

> > I saw my cousin last Sunday for the first time since was

> born. He

> > is 32 and was born with unilateral clubfoot. He had serial

casting

> > until a year old and then surgery, he had more surgery at 6 years

of

> > age. It was interesting talking to him about his experiences so

> far.

> >

> > He remembers wearing corrective shoes at night, probably until

the

> age

> > of 10. I suppose there's also a chance of relapse with surgery -

> even

> > though the doctors I spoke to last year told me that their

surgery

> would

> > be '100% successful in correcting the foot'. I'm not sure if the

> repeat

> > surgeries that occur are because of relapse or the foot being

> restricted

> > from natural development because of scar tissue, etc?

> >

> > My cousin's foot is quite immobile, he can't stand on tiptoe,

can't

> move

> > it as freely as his normal foot, but he told me that he hasn't

> really

> > suffered much pain and is very active in sport (runs, cycles). He

> said

> > he's kind of got over his hang-up about the scars on his foot and

> calf,

> > but it was quite a problem when he was younger.

> >

> > and

> > 24th Jan 2003, bilateral cf

> > www.clubfoot.co.za

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Thanks so much-one more question

> >

> > Antoinette,

> > When I took my daughter to Iowa for her check up in early March,

> Dr.

> > Ponseti and Dr. Morcuende told me that they have been seeing a

> number

> > of older children have sudden and severe regression. I'll try to

> > relay what I overheard- but keep in mind that I'm just a parent.

I

> > don't think this is a new phenomenon, it's just that parents are

> > doing a better job of taking their children in for follow up

> > appointments and staying in touch with the doctors more closely,

so

> > the doctors are able to piece together more information since

they

> > have more patients and more thorough records for each patient.

It

> > seems that the working theory is that some children have relapses

> > between the ages of 3-5 due to a sudden growth spurt where the

> > muscles/ligaments cannot keep up with the bone growth. For

> example,

> > a child's clubfoot was completely corrected and the child stopped

> > wearing the brace at age 3, but shortly thereafter the child

> > experienced a quick regression and needed the ATTT procedure by

age

> > 4. Dr. Morcuende said that the severity of the deformity at

birth

> > does not appear to be related to the onset of regression at an

> older

> > age. I'm guessing that Tina's latest post about Kavan regressing

> is

> > another example of this situation where a sudden growth spurt

> causes

> > the foot to relapse.

> > Try to keep in mind that if the brace is worn as prescribed, the

> > chance of relapse is 7% or less, but over 70% if it is not worn

> > diligently.

> >

> > I think most relapses happen before age 3 and are related to the

> > child not wearing the brace as prescribed. It makes sense in my

> > mind, that the child is growing very quickly between the ages of

1

> > and 3, so that's why the brace is important, to maintain the

proper

> > position of the feet as the legs are growing and changing...much

> like

> > the occasional growth spurts in the older children- a child under

3

> > is in a nearly " constant growth spurt " , making the brace wear

that

> > much more important.

> > It will be interesting to see if the protocol for brace wear in

> older

> > children will change in the near future as the doctors gather

more

> > information about the causes and prevention of regression.

> > Please remember the comments are just my take on what I heard the

> > doctors talking about.

> > Regards,

> > & (3-16-00)

> > left clubfoot, switched to Ponseti method at 4 months old

>

>

>

>

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