Re: two steps forward & two steps back !!

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> Does anyone have any idea why a number of things tried with my DD

have worked initially (usually for a period of 2 - 3 days) and then

she has gone back to where we started.

I had this problem with my son. I traced it to several issues, not

sure I would be able to articulate it too well.

Dana

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> Does anyone have any idea why a number of things tried with my DD

have worked initially (usually for a period of 2 - 3 days) and then

she has gone back to where we started. This has happened with yeast

treatments, chelation, homeopathic secretin and a number of other

supps. The improvements have sometimes been instant and quite

dramatic - increased verbal attempts (practically saying some words,

really " with it " ) and then it's as if someone switches the light back

off as quickly again.

Okay here are some random thoughts.

First, my son needed almost everything introduced individually. For

example, I would give a multi, and he would improve for a few days

because something in the multi was helping, then regress because

something else in the multi was causing problems.

Second, sometimes my son only needed a few days of " loading " and then

no longer needed the supplement. ANY supplement I gave, beyond the

time that he actually needed it, would cause regression.

Sometimes the dose needed to be lowered, not entirely removed.

Sometimes the dose needed to be increased.

For vitamin A, once the high dose protocol was effective, I can't give

my son more than maybe 250 IU of vitamin A per WEEK, otherwise the

toxicity symptoms and the visuals will return.

**Note on the B6/B12 issue. I was giving B6/B12/folic acid together.

This caused nice improvements for a few days, then scripting. Per

the suggestion here that B12 can cause scripting, and because after

entirely removing the B vitamins my kids started scripting again [and

#4 started asking too many questions again], I added back ONLY the B6

and now the scripting is gone again, plus some other behaviors

including defiance are gone, and nice cooperative things are back.

Strangely enough, my son's visuals had hinted at returning again, but

the B6 stopped that also. I will be trying this B6/magnesium info now.

Specifically, you mentioned " yeast treatments, chelation, homeopathic

secretin and a number of other supps. "

For yeast treatments, my son did not tolerate probiotics, except

Culturelle ONLY when he had bacteria. Once the bacteria was gone, he

stopped tolerating the Culturelle. Also, GSE causes bad bacteria for

my kids, if the yeast is gone.

Chelation: ALA caused yeast for my kids. Also depleted biotin.

I have not used homeopathics or secretin, so I can't comment on that.

If you list some of the other supplements, I might have ideas for you.

Good luck, it is frustrating.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> First, my son needed almost everything introduced individually. For

> example, I would give a multi, and he would improve for a few days

> because something in the multi was helping, then regress because

> something else in the multi was causing problems.

>

> Second, sometimes my son only needed a few days of " loading " and then

> no longer needed the supplement. ANY supplement I gave, beyond the

> time that he actually needed it, would cause regression.

>

This is true for adults as well. Seems our body stores some of the

supplements and what it takes to deplete the source, I don't know.

But I noticed I don't need as much as I did when I first took them.

HA! I hear ya, here!

Liz D.

> Chelation: ALA caused yeast for my kids. Also depleted biotin.

>

> Good luck, it is frustrating.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> > Does anyone have any idea why a number of things tried with my DD

> have worked initially (usually for a period of 2 - 3 days) and then

> she has gone back to where we started.

One more thought is that during chelation, my son would improve for a

week or two [or sometimes longer] and then regress back to nearly

where he was before. I did trace it to viral issues. Addressing the

viral issues has been very beneficial.

Dana