Re: Problems with culturelle?? - Other probiotic questions

[Guest guest]

I have been using the Jarrow form of probiotics. I get it in huge one

kilo tub and put it into the milk. We each take about 40 billion

CFUs/day. I understand that most may not make it due to the acidic

nature of the stomach and am considering using the enterically coated

versions during chelation rounds (they are just more expensive so I

don't used them all the time). I think that it is effective and my 2

year old and 4 year old tolerate it.

To respond to the Culturelle question, once I had an allergic reaction

and swore it was from Jarrow probiotics (before I even started my kids

on this high dose) and called Jarrow. The guy pointed me in the right

direction. He said that it is very, very unlikely to have a reaction

to the probiotic and I think I had too high a dose of Vit B3 by

accident and they each got the Niacin flush. It was just that I

started the probiotic brand around the same time. I guess my point is

that it is sooooo hard to distinguish what it causing the reaction.

We all used Culturelle for a while and never had a reaction (if you are

looking for a census). One way you can check is through muscle testing

to see if you are having an " allergic " reaction. This is easy to do

(takes 2 seconds) and costs nothing if you know how to do it. Read

Ellen Cutler's books.

Next, my question, a friend said someone told her that no probiotic is

really good (i.e., sticking power) unless it is a " GG. " The only GG I

know of is Culturelle. I don't know if I believe this, but I am

looking for feedback on this comment.

What is the viability of the probiotic when you are just mixing it in

milk and drinking it?

Maureen

[Guest guest]

> Next, my question, a friend said someone told her that no probiotic

is

> really good (i.e., sticking power) unless it is a " GG. " The only

GG I

> know of is Culturelle. I don't know if I believe this, but I am

> looking for feedback on this comment.

It's a baseless statement. Sure culturelle has been proven to

implant, but that's just one of 100s of strains - most of which have

not been tested. Thus that statement cannot be truthfully made unless

all strains of probiotics and all strains of gut bacteria have been

tested several times and proven NOT to adhere to the gut wall. This

just hasn't happened.

>

> What is the viability of the probiotic when you are just mixing it

in

> milk and drinking it?

Depends on the viability of the product to begin with. There's a vast

array of quality differences when it comes to probiotics. A number of

brands have been tested by independent labs and found to have NO

viable activity whatsoever, others have been found NOT to contain

strains the label claims they contain and others have been found to

contain strains not listed on the label, whereas others have had

bacterial counts well below the label claims.

I already mentioned the two that I've found to be of the highest

quality - Primal Defense and Custom Probiotics. But the other major

impact you can have on your or your child's gut ecology is by eating

lots of lacto-fermented foods, as our ancestors did for millenia.

(And this is how Donna Gates of " The Body Ecology Diet " treats

Autistic children, with very good results, apparently.)

Lacto-fermented dishes is one of the major food categories that has

been lost in the modern American love affair with fake processed

foods, with the exception of yogurt. I eat lacto-fermented foods

daily - usually Korean sauerkraut and kefir (cultured milk). Two

books with many great fermented food recipes are " Nourishing

Traditions " by Sally Fallon and Enig, and " Wild Fermentation " by

Sandor Katz. Fermented FOOD is the way humans have been getting their

probiotics for thousands of years, is much tastier and much less

expensive than probiotic pills!

Suze

[Guest guest]

Hi,

We have been using Primal defense which is a soil-based probiotics and

this has really worked well for us. Helped a lot with Klebsiella which

i heard is hard to get rid of. You can get it from Garden of life company.

regards,

sanrithu

> > Next, my question, a friend said someone told her that no probiotic

> is

> > really good (i.e., sticking power) unless it is a " GG. " The only

> GG I

> > know of is Culturelle. I don't know if I believe this, but I am

> > looking for feedback on this comment.

>

> It's a baseless statement. Sure culturelle has been proven to

> implant, but that's just one of 100s of strains - most of which have

> not been tested. Thus that statement cannot be truthfully made unless

> all strains of probiotics and all strains of gut bacteria have been

> tested several times and proven NOT to adhere to the gut wall. This

> just hasn't happened.

>

>

> >

> > What is the viability of the probiotic when you are just mixing it

> in

> > milk and drinking it?

>

> Depends on the viability of the product to begin with. There's a vast

> array of quality differences when it comes to probiotics. A number of

> brands have been tested by independent labs and found to have NO

> viable activity whatsoever, others have been found NOT to contain

> strains the label claims they contain and others have been found to

> contain strains not listed on the label, whereas others have had

> bacterial counts well below the label claims.

>

> I already mentioned the two that I've found to be of the highest

> quality - Primal Defense and Custom Probiotics. But the other major

> impact you can have on your or your child's gut ecology is by eating

> lots of lacto-fermented foods, as our ancestors did for millenia.

> (And this is how Donna Gates of " The Body Ecology Diet " treats

> Autistic children, with very good results, apparently.)

>

> Lacto-fermented dishes is one of the major food categories that has

> been lost in the modern American love affair with fake processed

> foods, with the exception of yogurt. I eat lacto-fermented foods

> daily - usually Korean sauerkraut and kefir (cultured milk). Two

> books with many great fermented food recipes are " Nourishing

> Traditions " by Sally Fallon and Enig, and " Wild Fermentation " by

> Sandor Katz. Fermented FOOD is the way humans have been getting their

> probiotics for thousands of years, is much tastier and much less

> expensive than probiotic pills!

>

> Suze