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Sorry - not much of an introduction was it? My name is

McGavin. I live in Midland, Texas. I work for the area MHMR,

specifically dealing with the program that teaches life skills to

severly and moderately retarded adults. I administer this program

with a staff of 6.

I have my youngest daughter living at home (the last of five)

completing college. My husband teaches Mass Communications at The

University Of Texas of the Permian Basin.

I spend my spare time training a former race horse named to

be a riding horse. I ride English style. is a love and is

working out much better than expected, which is good, 'cause in my

initial enthusiasm for this project, I neglected to consider how far

down and hard the ground was! I hit it three weeks ago and can

testify to it's non-yielding properties!

> Hi! Welcome to the group . . . what should we call you?

>

> If you'll take a look at Link #5 in the Important Links section at

the bottom of each message, you'll find some sample menus, called the

Turtle Menus. They were originally developed for slow losers, but

give a very good structure for anyone who needs to have some

guidelines. They are based on induction level carbs and

recommendations in Dr. Atkins book.

>

> Enjoy the list!

>

>

> Terry

> 168/155.25/154 (minigoal)/ ? (To be determined)

>

> Visit my web page at www.dtnorth.com

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Welcome, ! Glad to have you here!

What drew you to THIS group? Have you heard about the Atkins plan

elsewhere? Have you read Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution? I ask because it

gives me an idea of where you're at right now. As Beth mentioned, Atkins

is VERY different than other more " traditional " eating plans. But you'll

find about 800 of us that think it's a God-send.

If you haven't read the book yet, you might want to skim it. I hate to

say that to people, but this is an eating plan that you really ought to

understand before you dive in. At first, some of the ideas might seem

rediculous, but it really does work.

If you've read the book, we can easily come up with menu suggestions.

There's even a shopping list floating around somewhere as well. The plan

isn't difficult, and it's likely that it'll help you shed those extra

pounds quickly.

Good luck, and I hope to hear from you soon!

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in Indy

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3/26/01

* Thanksgiving mini goal

> Sorry - not much of an introduction was it? My name is

> McGavin. I live in Midland, Texas. I work for the area MHMR,

> specifically dealing with the program that teaches life skills to

> severly and moderately retarded adults. I administer this program

> with a staff of 6.

> I have my youngest daughter living at home (the last of five)

> completing college. My husband teaches Mass Communications at The

> University Of Texas of the Permian Basin.

> I spend my spare time training a former race horse named to

> be a riding horse. I ride English style. is a love and is

> working out much better than expected, which is good, 'cause in my

> initial enthusiasm for this project, I neglected to consider how far

> down and hard the ground was! I hit it three weeks ago and can

> testify to it's non-yielding properties!

>

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Actually, I started Atkins during the original plan - I was in high

school then, but as I recall, I could eat all the protien and fat I

wanted but nothing else. I went into ketosis and lost 10 pounds the

first week! I think I still have my ketostix!

I have the new book, and have skimmed it - I just am looking for a

way to do the drill and get the pounds off - I can't imagine with all

my activity it will be hard to keep them off - I have never had a

real problem in the past - just 10 pounds or so, and only

infrequently. Maybe it's age? I think though that it's the fact I

have been sick for about a year and a half and slowed down a LOT! I

was diagnosed with asthma of all things, and now am taking a med

(singulair) to deal with the symptoms and am feeling good again for

the first time in a long long time! Now to just get rid of this

awful residual fat!!!

I'm on this list because this was a diet I was familiar with. I had

already bought the book, and was ready to try. In a little lurk, I

decided you were nice folks who would take me seriously even though I

have never had surgery or a horrible, life threatning weight

problem. This is serious to me, though I think its necessary to

approach it with some humor. Some groups, I felt, might belittle my

problem as being not as great as their own. I just saw a couple of

these responses to others (you know what a sensitive subject this is

for all of us), and it turned me off. Anyway, enough of that...let's

get on with it!!!

> Welcome, ! Glad to have you here!

>

> What drew you to THIS group? Have you heard about the Atkins plan

> elsewhere? Have you read Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution?

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welcome karen i too did atkins back in the day this you will find more

enjoyable i remember eating eggs and jello all the time now you can have

veggies and salads and what a difference that makes :) just dont go

overboard on the dariy i find that his original limits of dairy were wise

catherine

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Welcome to our list, Pam :) Have you visited our web page? There are lots

of recipes there and you can get plenty of food ideas!

Good luck

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Welcome to our list, Pam :) Have you visited our web page? There are lots

of recipes there and you can get plenty of food ideas!

Good luck

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People revise because their first sx didn't work OR because they had mechanical

breakdown OR they have a problem with it, even though done right & intact.

I had a mechanical breakdown myself. SLD (staple line disruption)

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Hi my name is terry

I had my surgery in March of 2001 weighed in at 293 and now weigh

between 130 and 140 would like to weigh 125 o I am on a diet. I guess

that sounds weird but I can't seem to lose any more weight withour

doing this. I would also like someone to write back to me if they are

where I am right now and if they are always hungry and feel that they

eat too much til there stomach hurts. Also what is all this talk

about revivions this is really scaring me is this only rare cases?

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People revise because their first sx didn't work OR because they had mechanical

breakdown OR they have a problem with it, even though done right & intact.

I had a mechanical breakdown myself. SLD (staple line disruption)

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

www.vitalady.com

If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

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Hi my name is terry

I had my surgery in March of 2001 weighed in at 293 and now weigh

between 130 and 140 would like to weigh 125 o I am on a diet. I guess

that sounds weird but I can't seem to lose any more weight withour

doing this. I would also like someone to write back to me if they are

where I am right now and if they are always hungry and feel that they

eat too much til there stomach hurts. Also what is all this talk

about revivions this is really scaring me is this only rare cases?

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Welcome Marie....

This is a great group to find support with!

Carys (Balto., MD)

220/202/140

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Hi Marie!

Welcome.

First off, I think you need to find the reason why you binge eat.

Uusually there is a emotional problem behind it. Have you ever seen

a professional regarding this?

Right now you are diabetic. Continuing to be overwieght will carry

other consequences as time goes on.

Of course we are here to help in any way but it truly sounds like you

may need some professional help to get at the root of your issues. I

hope this does not sound like I am trying to put you down. I have

been through my own emotional eating problems at different times in

life so it just sounds to me like this may be where you are coming

from.

Again though welcome and please feel free to post whenever you can.

Dianne

> Hello, my name is Marie. I'm new.

> I've struggled with my weight all my life and am sick of dieting. I

> want to learn how to live healthfully and exercize for my health

and

> not my looks... because I am getting nowhere.

> I am a compulsive binge eater. It's always been a real problem with

> me. I will eat and eat to the point of vomiting and still eat more.

> It's ridiculous, and dangerous considering I'm a type 1 diabetic. I

> keep my sugars real good with insulin, but the more I eat, the more

> insulin I need.

> I could really use some support, and I think I could be good

support

> for others as well.

> It's nice to meet you all.

> Marie

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Hey Lucy,

I'm so behind on posts (as is everyone I think!) LOL! So welcome and

hope to hear lots more from you. Congrats on your loss this week!!

*wavs pom-poms* I'm sure you've already realized what a great,

informative and supportive group this is!

I am curious as to how your scale knows how much body fat you have?

Nice to meet you!

Autumn :)

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Lucy writes:

Hi, All, I'm new to this loop so I'm not exactly sure what the etiquette

is of reporting your weigh-ins, but I'll just send mine and you can let

me know if I'm doing it " right " . I just weighed myself at 205, which is

1.2 pounds less than last Monday (I have a scale that does tenths). My

scale also does body fat but I measure that only once a month. Last week

my body fat was 40%, which is one percent less than last month. So, I am

going in the right direction, just not as quickly as I would like.

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My sister had the surgery 2 years ago and I know the myomectomy

involves a lot of pain too! My fibroids are intramural...am I still

able to have a UAE if I wanted? I am so confused but I have a lot

of questions to ask at my second opinion consult visit...thanks to

this support group.

> > I live in Columbus Ohio and I

> > have only found one physician that does UAE but that extreme

pain

> > afterwards is not very appealling to me. Any suggestions?

>

> If you expect little pain after a myomectomy--you are sadly

> mistaken. You'll have a large incision across the lower part of

your

> abdomen that takes a few weeks to completely heal.

>

> The UAE pain lasts for a few hours (or maybe a day or so in some

> cases) and is like having labor pains BUT it can be well

controlled

> with IV medications AND oral meds. Oh yeah--the incisions for the

> UAE are about the size and width of papercuts and require no

stitches

> and heal within a day or so. Many people are able to return to

work

> within 2 weeks after a UAE--not likely with a myo.

> My IR had a patient have a UAE and 3 days later that patient ran

in a

> 5K marathon. At 3 days post-op on a myo--you're just learning how

to

> comfortably turn over in bed!

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My sister had the surgery 2 years ago and I know the myomectomy

involves a lot of pain too! My fibroids are intramural...am I still

able to have a UAE if I wanted? I am so confused but I have a lot

of questions to ask at my second opinion consult visit...thanks to

this support group.

> > I live in Columbus Ohio and I

> > have only found one physician that does UAE but that extreme

pain

> > afterwards is not very appealling to me. Any suggestions?

>

> If you expect little pain after a myomectomy--you are sadly

> mistaken. You'll have a large incision across the lower part of

your

> abdomen that takes a few weeks to completely heal.

>

> The UAE pain lasts for a few hours (or maybe a day or so in some

> cases) and is like having labor pains BUT it can be well

controlled

> with IV medications AND oral meds. Oh yeah--the incisions for the

> UAE are about the size and width of papercuts and require no

stitches

> and heal within a day or so. Many people are able to return to

work

> within 2 weeks after a UAE--not likely with a myo.

> My IR had a patient have a UAE and 3 days later that patient ran

in a

> 5K marathon. At 3 days post-op on a myo--you're just learning how

to

> comfortably turn over in bed!

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Hi Robin,

Welcome to the CEDA group. You will find lots of friends and support here.

My name is Ginley and I have three children, two who have EDS. Hope you

find this list as helpful and informative as I do. Take care.

Hugs,

Sue Ginley

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Hi Robin,

Welcome to the CEDA group. You will find lots of friends and support here.

My name is Ginley and I have three children, two who have EDS. Hope you

find this list as helpful and informative as I do. Take care.

Hugs,

Sue Ginley

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Hi Robin,

Welcome to the CEDA group. You will find lots of friends and support here.

My name is Ginley and I have three children, two who have EDS. Hope you

find this list as helpful and informative as I do. Take care.

Hugs,

Sue Ginley

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Hi Robin, welcome to the CEDA family! I'm Jo from the UK and I've

only been here a few months but have found it enormously helpful and

supportive. I'm sorry you need to be hear obviously having the

diagnosis of EDS III. I too have trouble with dislocations,

especially the knees, wrists, neck and shoulders - you're left

shoulder sounds freakily familiar as I end up having to be knocked

out in my local casualty these days too. I'm actually seeing my

shoulder specialist in the morning to see if there is any hope of

stabilising it.

I'd be interested to hear how you " manage " your more unstable joints.

Are you in a Physio/PT routine at all? Have you had any stabilisation

done or use any support splints etc? I find the splints for my wrists

particularly helpful but haven't ever found anything that worked for

my freaky knees sadly.

Whereabouts are you based by the way? Sorry I can be nosey! Just

curious though as I was referred to a paediatric geneticist initially

too. Anyway, I hope you are having a good day and look forward to

catching up with you on here from time to time.

Take care........Jo

xx

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Hi Robin, welcome to the CEDA family! I'm Jo from the UK and I've

only been here a few months but have found it enormously helpful and

supportive. I'm sorry you need to be hear obviously having the

diagnosis of EDS III. I too have trouble with dislocations,

especially the knees, wrists, neck and shoulders - you're left

shoulder sounds freakily familiar as I end up having to be knocked

out in my local casualty these days too. I'm actually seeing my

shoulder specialist in the morning to see if there is any hope of

stabilising it.

I'd be interested to hear how you " manage " your more unstable joints.

Are you in a Physio/PT routine at all? Have you had any stabilisation

done or use any support splints etc? I find the splints for my wrists

particularly helpful but haven't ever found anything that worked for

my freaky knees sadly.

Whereabouts are you based by the way? Sorry I can be nosey! Just

curious though as I was referred to a paediatric geneticist initially

too. Anyway, I hope you are having a good day and look forward to

catching up with you on here from time to time.

Take care........Jo

xx

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kukalaka wrote:

>You can only do a resection on certain fibroids. They have to be small and

>they can't be in the uterus wall very deep. How large was your fibroid in the

>first place? Becase it sounds like they didn't get it all. If it grew back

>twice the size, did it still fall into the acceptable size range for a

>resection? I'm confused.

>I'm not so sure that I wouldn't run from your doc. Do you know if they even

>got it all the second time? The same fibroids don't grow back if they are

>totally removed so this shouldn't be a problem. BC pills can make them grow

>and after a while they won't stop heavy bleeding. Doesn't sound like a good

>option for you anyways.

the frist one was about 5 cm and the second one she said was about 10 or 12 and

she could not get it all on the second one. She said she got most of it. She

told me she got it all on the first one and dose not understand why it grew back

in 6 mouths. Brith cortorl make me feel sick, vomit, migrans, gain wait feel

moody. My boy freind said when i was on brith control i was unresonbul 90 % of

the time. The other 10 i just felt sick. As soon as it was out of my systym I

felt better. I had taken brithcontorl before at 16, 18 to try and regralte my

peridos and the same thing happened. She said the patch might work becuse it

goes though your skin. But since i been so sentive to brith control in the past

that it had a good chance of makeing me sick

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kukalaka wrote:

>You can only do a resection on certain fibroids. They have to be small and

>they can't be in the uterus wall very deep. How large was your fibroid in the

>first place? Becase it sounds like they didn't get it all. If it grew back

>twice the size, did it still fall into the acceptable size range for a

>resection? I'm confused.

>I'm not so sure that I wouldn't run from your doc. Do you know if they even

>got it all the second time? The same fibroids don't grow back if they are

>totally removed so this shouldn't be a problem. BC pills can make them grow

>and after a while they won't stop heavy bleeding. Doesn't sound like a good

>option for you anyways.

the frist one was about 5 cm and the second one she said was about 10 or 12 and

she could not get it all on the second one. She said she got most of it. She

told me she got it all on the first one and dose not understand why it grew back

in 6 mouths. Brith cortorl make me feel sick, vomit, migrans, gain wait feel

moody. My boy freind said when i was on brith control i was unresonbul 90 % of

the time. The other 10 i just felt sick. As soon as it was out of my systym I

felt better. I had taken brithcontorl before at 16, 18 to try and regralte my

peridos and the same thing happened. She said the patch might work becuse it

goes though your skin. But since i been so sentive to brith control in the past

that it had a good chance of makeing me sick

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kukalaka wrote:

>You can only do a resection on certain fibroids. They have to be small and

>they can't be in the uterus wall very deep. How large was your fibroid in the

>first place? Becase it sounds like they didn't get it all. If it grew back

>twice the size, did it still fall into the acceptable size range for a

>resection? I'm confused.

>I'm not so sure that I wouldn't run from your doc. Do you know if they even

>got it all the second time? The same fibroids don't grow back if they are

>totally removed so this shouldn't be a problem. BC pills can make them grow

>and after a while they won't stop heavy bleeding. Doesn't sound like a good

>option for you anyways.

the frist one was about 5 cm and the second one she said was about 10 or 12 and

she could not get it all on the second one. She said she got most of it. She

told me she got it all on the first one and dose not understand why it grew back

in 6 mouths. Brith cortorl make me feel sick, vomit, migrans, gain wait feel

moody. My boy freind said when i was on brith control i was unresonbul 90 % of

the time. The other 10 i just felt sick. As soon as it was out of my systym I

felt better. I had taken brithcontorl before at 16, 18 to try and regralte my

peridos and the same thing happened. She said the patch might work becuse it

goes though your skin. But since i been so sentive to brith control in the past

that it had a good chance of makeing me sick

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Hello Barbara,

May I ask what injury and surgery you had and How long ago? I

appreciate your sharing. Sometimes I get that " look of

disbelief "

from the various medical staff and even my own chiropractor about

RSD. I stopped trying with some people because it became so

frustrating. My chiropractor is a great guy but he thinks that RSD

is just a misalignment! I didn't know him when I was suffering

so

much pain so he just doesn't get it. Instead I decided if it is

important enough and if the person seems willing to listen then

I'll

do what it takes to educate them as much as I am able.

About one year after my remission I was asked by a local instructor

to speak to his massage therapy class at the local junior college.

It was an experience to get up before 20 women and try to describe

what RSD was like and how to recognize the symptoms. Later after

the class I had to cry. I had successfully put myself back into the

pain and life I had led before remission in order to talk and then

answer all their questions. Whew! All I could think about was that

maybe just one of them would recognize symptoms in a patient and

then that would lead the patient to ask questions and get help from

the right people.

I found an absolute gem of a Physical Therapist to help me with my

plan to introduce exercise this year. Just the very way he

responded and looked at me when I told him that I was in remission

from RSD of the lower left limb gave me so much confidence in him.

He then told me how very horrible that was and he made every effort

to demonstrate his support of me in my attempts to exercise safely.

I don't know what has caused this flare up but I do know that I

couldn't have been more careful other than just sitting around

waiting to waste away out of fear. So I must deal with the

situation as it is now. Two weeks of prednisone is the course

prescribed by my doctor as of yesterday. Hope this kicks it in the

rear!

Are there any rules about how long our posts can be! Lyn

BARBARA TORREY <torreyb@p...> wrote:

> Gees, Lyn. Things sure were different back then, but sadly they

haven't gotten a heck of a lot better since then. With me, they

spent over a year and a half attributing my pain and symptoms to " how

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I think it was from my increase in exercise walking. The arch of my

foot was inflamed for the last few weeks and I had wrapped it with

sports tape to give support. Other than that I don't know what it

could be... I remember calling it " this thing " that has a mind of

it's own. It's back...... Lyn

Survivor NOV2000 <survivorNOV2000@g...> wrote:

> Lyn,

> Just curious.... did anything happen that made the RSD start

again..

> i.e. an injury??

>

> Carla

>

>

> > Hello to all,

> > I have just signed up in my attempt to handle the fact that the

RSD

> > has returned after some years of being completely free of pain

and

> > symptoms. I was called a classic case in 1994. It only took

> > several months of debilitating pain after a crush and fracture

of my

> > left ankle for a second doctor to diagnose RSD and then the

struggle

> > of pain as you all know was life changing plus losing the

ability to

> > walk for years. My story of recovery after years of extreme pain

> > and disability is to me and others a miracle and I have been

> > grateful everyday. Now I face the challenge one again. On one

hand

> > I am armed with information from my experience and know that I

am

> > not crazy. On the other hand I know very well what may be my

future

> > and I am frightened. I hope to make some contact via internet

that I

> > didn't have access to in the 90's. Any suggestions for how to

best

> > use this group would be appreciated and is there anyway I may

> > contribute my experience. Thank you for your time, Lyn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> Jon Eskola <eskola@b...> wrote:

> Hello everyone.

> I have just joined this group and have read several back posts

from the

> board and would like to introduce myself and ask a few questions

(though I

> know you must feel as though you are repeating yourselves

constantly to new

> members).

> I have a long family history of low thyroid in my family mom,

mom's mom,

> sister). I am almost certain I have has symptoms on and off of

this for

> several years....I had a doc take some blood (on a better day) and

all I got

> back from them was the secretary called and said the tests were in

the

> normal range....... I am not convinced...esp after reading some

posts on

> this and another loop......The thread on unexplained pain just

clinched it

> for me......oh, I am not crazy...or just lazy!

> I just recently had a rough miscarriage and I will wager that it

had a lot

> to do with dipping thyroid levels....bouts with very cold spells,

etc.(which

> I was having at the onset of miscarriage).

> Anyway, I really, really want to do what I can naturally for

this...however

> I may be stuck with meds no matter what I do and I would like to

know how I

> can find a doctor that knows something about this condition (in

the way you

> are all educated).....

> I simply can not go on like this as I know you all feel the

same....I have 6

> children which I homeschool and there is little room for mommy is

too tired,

> etc. and we are always getting behind on everything as I wake up

tired....go

> to bed tired, have achy flu like symptoms....etc.etc......all

known to you

> all....

> If anyone would be willing to do an overview of how you treat this

problem

> naturally, I would be surely thankful for your time and efforts!

> Thank you so kindly,

> Kim in Tn

>

Hi Kim;

I am Sim, a homeschooling mom to one On Long Island in NY. This

list is awesome! I can relate to many of the issues that you are

dealing with. These gals will help you get on the right path to good

health, they're wonderful!

Sim

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Hi Kathy,

welcome to the group. Everyone here is very supportive and helpful. I

would make sure I have salad mix in the refrigerator and Sliced Turkey and

Cheese.

Throw that together when you get home and have that with some fruit. Also if

you have a 's in your area stop and get a small chili and salad to have a

quick dinner. Always have a 2 pt. bar on hand or a piece of fruit to keep you

from starving also helps. Good luck to you.

Hugs,

Marge

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