Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 Hi , I am a breast cancer survivor - diagnosis was in May of 2004 -finished chemo and radiation by January 2005. My chemo was so bad that myself and my doctors decided I should not take tamoxifen - so I didn't and don't. I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), limit my alcohol intake, exercise 3-4 times a week and overall try to live healthy and happy by not absorbing stressful situations or people - and of course I pray. That's my current prescription. Maybe see an herbalist that is also an MD. They can provide you with extra herbs that will naturally block free radicals whilst still offering you the knowledge and guidance of western medicine. Ask your oncologist for a referral. To me that is a reasonable balance that will not leave one damaged by any effects of prescriptive drugs. I do however keep a close watch on myself and go for check ups every 6 months and will continue to. Hope this is useful information. Much love to you and congrats for pushing through the past! Warmly - Cate et> wrote: , Welcome to the group. I was ER neg so couldn't take Tamoxifen but there are quite a few ladies that are on it or have been on it. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html BreastCancerStories.com http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments at www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html Lots of info and gifts at: www.cancerclub.com What should I do? hi, I am a 4 yr breast cancer survivor. I was 31 when I first found out about everything. I had a lumpectomy, auxillary lymphnode disection, radiation and now I am taking Tamoxifen. My children were 4 and 9 at the time. My, now, ex-husband left me when I got cancer. I left home and took my kids and myself from IL to CA to live with my aunt and receive treatments. Here I am 4 years later and have re-married. My life is never better and I am happier than I ever been. Sometimes, I say that getting cancer was a blessing in disguise because it made me stronger than I ever thought I could be and made me realize that I was in a marriage that was ruining my children and my own self esteem. But, now that I am re-married and the question of children has come up. I want more children. But, I am taking Tamoxifen and I still have 1 1/2 years to go. From what I understand anout Tamoxifen is that in the beginning you get the most benefits. THe longer you take it the less benefits you receive from it. Basically, the majority of the benefits are received with in the first 3 years of being on the drug. What is the sense in taking it the whole 5 years if it only increases the percentages by a 1/4 of a percent. Is there anyone out there that has just decided to stop taking it before the 5 year mark? And what did your doctor tell you? Is it all that bad to stop? As of today, I have decided to stop. I would just like to know if there is anyone out there in the same boat that I am in. It is all so confusing. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/461 - Release Date: 10/2/2006 Quote
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 Kennedy wrote: > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the vegetarian community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a definite " no-no " for estrogen-positive cancers. Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising some of my own meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me from getting cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for this and SO much FUN) as well. -Frances -- -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* Quote
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 I don't know anything about the effectiveness of Tamoxifen vs. how long you have taken it, but I was ER/PR + and opted not to take it. My reasons were not at all related to having another child (I'm already infertile), but a combination of situational and other medical reasons. For me, a partial mastectomy and radiation, coupled with careful follow-up, was enough security for the future. My doctors respected this and no one really tried to argue me out of it. One did point out that the Tamoxifen actually caused a spike in cancers of the breast after 5 years of taking it in one study (I had asked why people only take it for 5 years). Another pointed out that it would increase my chances of not having ER/PR + cancer in the other (healthy) breast. Be careful of the stats though. They are misleading. My husband (an engineer) and one oncologist got into quite a discussion about the studies and how to compare them, etc. There are just too many ways to look at them. Good luck in your decision. Remember, nothing is written in permanent ink. Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read more about it? Colleen > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the vegetarian > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a definite " no-no " > for estrogen-positive cancers. > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising some of my own > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me from getting > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for this and SO > much FUN) as well. > -Frances > -- > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read more about it? Colleen > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the vegetarian > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a definite " no-no " > for estrogen-positive cancers. > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising some of my own > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me from getting > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for this and SO > much FUN) as well. > -Frances > -- > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 Hi, Colleen - I have been dairy-free since May 2005, when I found the lump and read the book " Your Life in Your Hands " by Prof. Jane Plant. I'm not a vegetarian, I'm a vegan with meat <G>. But I found I didn't like soya milk etc, and now I use oat milk which is really good for me (the right kind of fibre, lowers cholesterol, and you can use it just like cow juice). Here in the UK and in Scandinavia it's called Oatly - http://www.oatly.com/ - maybe you can find an equivalent in the US? I really like it. NAYY ... Margery. ============================================ margery@... in North Herts, UK ============================================ > Re: What should I do? > > Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting > information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. > That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like > to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss > all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read > more about it? Colleen > > > > > > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and > diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the > vegetarian > > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a > definite " no-no " > > for estrogen-positive cancers. > > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising > some of my own > > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me > from getting > > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for > this and SO > > much FUN) as well. > > -Frances > > -- > > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 Hi, Colleen - I have been dairy-free since May 2005, when I found the lump and read the book " Your Life in Your Hands " by Prof. Jane Plant. I'm not a vegetarian, I'm a vegan with meat <G>. But I found I didn't like soya milk etc, and now I use oat milk which is really good for me (the right kind of fibre, lowers cholesterol, and you can use it just like cow juice). Here in the UK and in Scandinavia it's called Oatly - http://www.oatly.com/ - maybe you can find an equivalent in the US? I really like it. NAYY ... Margery. ============================================ margery@... in North Herts, UK ============================================ > Re: What should I do? > > Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting > information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. > That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like > to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss > all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read > more about it? Colleen > > > > > > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and > diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the > vegetarian > > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a > definite " no-no " > > for estrogen-positive cancers. > > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising > some of my own > > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me > from getting > > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for > this and SO > > much FUN) as well. > > -Frances > > -- > > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 Hi, Colleen - I have been dairy-free since May 2005, when I found the lump and read the book " Your Life in Your Hands " by Prof. Jane Plant. I'm not a vegetarian, I'm a vegan with meat <G>. But I found I didn't like soya milk etc, and now I use oat milk which is really good for me (the right kind of fibre, lowers cholesterol, and you can use it just like cow juice). Here in the UK and in Scandinavia it's called Oatly - http://www.oatly.com/ - maybe you can find an equivalent in the US? I really like it. NAYY ... Margery. ============================================ margery@... in North Herts, UK ============================================ > Re: What should I do? > > Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting > information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. > That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like > to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss > all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read > more about it? Colleen > > > > > > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and > diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the > vegetarian > > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a > definite " no-no " > > for estrogen-positive cancers. > > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising > some of my own > > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me > from getting > > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for > this and SO > > much FUN) as well. > > -Frances > > -- > > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 Because I am lactose intollerant, I do use soy milk in place of cow milk and soy cheese( which I usualy melt and add some flavoring to. When I met with the oncologist, one of the first questions that I asked the oncologist was if I could eat soy again. The surgeon seemed to think that it was ok to keep using the soy milk but I had not eaten soy cheese since I was diagnosed. I found that the best thing was to ask the oncologist about soy since there are so many things out there that will give you different ideas and it will depend alot on your individual situation. ne Colleen wrote: Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read more about it? Colleen > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the vegetarian > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a definite " no-no " > for estrogen-positive cancers. > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising some of my own > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me from getting > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for this and SO > much FUN) as well. > -Frances > -- > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 Because I am lactose intollerant, I do use soy milk in place of cow milk and soy cheese( which I usualy melt and add some flavoring to. When I met with the oncologist, one of the first questions that I asked the oncologist was if I could eat soy again. The surgeon seemed to think that it was ok to keep using the soy milk but I had not eaten soy cheese since I was diagnosed. I found that the best thing was to ask the oncologist about soy since there are so many things out there that will give you different ideas and it will depend alot on your individual situation. ne Colleen wrote: Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read more about it? Colleen > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the vegetarian > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a definite " no-no " > for estrogen-positive cancers. > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising some of my own > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me from getting > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for this and SO > much FUN) as well. > -Frances > -- > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 i was told since my cancer was hormone fed, that i should stay away from all soy based products because the cancer can feed off the soy and grow. So my thinking is you need to know your hormone receptor before you make a decision. And also talk to cancer doctor. But remember all doctors have different views and opions and the decision will come down to you after you get the facts. Hugs and prayers from carol in n. Michigan -- Re: What should I do? Because I am lactose intollerant, I do use soy milk in place of cow milk and soy cheese( which I usualy melt and add some flavoring to. When I met with the oncologist, one of the first questions that I asked the oncologist was if I could eat soy again. The surgeon seemed to think that it was ok to keep using the soy milk but I had not eaten soy cheese since I was diagnosed. I found that the best thing was to ask the oncologist about soy since there are so many things out there that will give you different ideas and it will depend alot on your individual situation. ne Colleen wrote: Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read more about it? Colleen > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the vegetarian > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a definite " no-no " > for estrogen-positive cancers. > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising some of my own > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me from getting > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for this and SO > much FUN) as well. > -Frances > -- > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 i was told since my cancer was hormone fed, that i should stay away from all soy based products because the cancer can feed off the soy and grow. So my thinking is you need to know your hormone receptor before you make a decision. And also talk to cancer doctor. But remember all doctors have different views and opions and the decision will come down to you after you get the facts. Hugs and prayers from carol in n. Michigan -- Re: What should I do? Because I am lactose intollerant, I do use soy milk in place of cow milk and soy cheese( which I usualy melt and add some flavoring to. When I met with the oncologist, one of the first questions that I asked the oncologist was if I could eat soy again. The surgeon seemed to think that it was ok to keep using the soy milk but I had not eaten soy cheese since I was diagnosed. I found that the best thing was to ask the oncologist about soy since there are so many things out there that will give you different ideas and it will depend alot on your individual situation. ne Colleen wrote: Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read more about it? Colleen > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the vegetarian > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a definite " no-no " > for estrogen-positive cancers. > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising some of my own > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me from getting > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for this and SO > much FUN) as well. > -Frances > -- > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 Actually, this is a misconception brought by the name estrogen in phytoestrogen. It is based more in speculation that in available data. The evidence and data shows that people with high intake of soy products have lower rate of developping breast, prostate and colon cancers. Those studies are population in general, and they show that people who immigrated and adopted westen diet (low soy intake) developped the same cacer rate as the adopeted country. There is evidence that phytoestrogens compete with indogenous estrogens and are much weaker in stimulating tumor growth. There is evidence too that they may act as aromatase inhibitors. Basically, there is more evidence that soy is good in cancer prevention than the oposite. And, besides all that, there are phytoestrogens in a lot of all the other grains and products we eat. It is not as high in a single product as it is in soy, but combined it might even be higher than in soy. In any case, people should do what they feel better with. hugs Carol wrote: i was told since my cancer was hormone fed, that i should stay away from all soy based products because the cancer can feed off the soy and grow. So my thinking is you need to know your hormone receptor before you make a decision. And also talk to cancer doctor. But remember all doctors have different views and opions and the decision will come down to you after you get the facts. Hugs and prayers from carol in n. Michigan -- Re: What should I do? Because I am lactose intollerant, I do use soy milk in place of cow milk and soy cheese( which I usualy melt and add some flavoring to. When I met with the oncologist, one of the first questions that I asked the oncologist was if I could eat soy again. The surgeon seemed to think that it was ok to keep using the soy milk but I had not eaten soy cheese since I was diagnosed. I found that the best thing was to ask the oncologist about soy since there are so many things out there that will give you different ideas and it will depend alot on your individual situation. ne Colleen wrote: Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read more about it? Colleen > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the vegetarian > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a definite " no-no " > for estrogen-positive cancers. > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising some of my own > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me from getting > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for this and SO > much FUN) as well. > -Frances > -- > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 Wow thanks for the info, i was first diagnosed way back in '94 so lots of things have changed. -- Re: What should I do? Because I am lactose intollerant, I do use soy milk in place of cow milk and soy cheese( which I usualy melt and add some flavoring to. When I met with the oncologist, one of the first questions that I asked the oncologist was if I could eat soy again. The surgeon seemed to think that it was ok to keep using the soy milk but I had not eaten soy cheese since I was diagnosed. I found that the best thing was to ask the oncologist about soy since there are so many things out there that will give you different ideas and it will depend alot on your individual situation. ne Colleen wrote: Could you elaborate on the soy issue? I have read such conflicting information on the topic of soy in estrogen positive breast cancer. That's the type of cancer my sister hashad, and, I really would like to know if, for me, the last one without cancer, I should just toss all my soy stuff. Can you also direct me to reliable places to read more about it? Colleen > > > I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), > One thing vegetarian BC survivors need to be careful of is the > source of their protein. Soy is extremely popular in the vegetarian > community. Since it contains phytoestrogens, soy is a definite " no-no " > for estrogen-positive cancers. > Since red meat contains estrogens I started raising some of my own > meat a dozen years ago. Unfortunately, it did not keep me from getting > cancer. :-( I now raise my own eggs (ducks are great for this and SO > much FUN) as well. > -Frances > -- > -Frances Bartels *** ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.qsl.net/ki0dz Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com #092389 ------- (o o) > Internet ONLY $9.99/mo. **Free accelerator** |ooOoo| >{ | }< > http://continue.to/internet ------- RRR)* > --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Posted October 4, 2006 Hi Cate, Thanks for the info. I decided to stop eating red meat. I switched from milk to soy to rice milk. Since I am allergic to soy, it was causing more allergy problems than I actually needed. I try to cut back on my dairy, but I do like the cheese. I stopped eating refined sugar and sweeten almost everything with honey, when needed. Of course, I have a birthday cake every once in a while. I am doing pilates 3 times a week and try to do some other sort of excercise on the off days. As always I am also seeing a doc every 6 months. Do you do anything other than mammograms and doctor visits for prevention, such as x-rays or anything like that. My doctor says I am healthy as an ox so he really just suggests the yearly gyn visit, mammogram, and seeing him every 6 months. I do have a friend that is also a BC survivor and she is religious with her wheat grass. I really appreciate your insight. I only know one person personally that has had breast cancer. It helps to talk to people that know how I feel. Thanks so much! - Kennedy wrote: Hi , I am a breast cancer survivor - diagnosis was in May of 2004 -finished chemo and radiation by January 2005. My chemo was so bad that myself and my doctors decided I should not take tamoxifen - so I didn't and don't. I eat as organically as possible, gave up all meat, poultry and diary, (I do eat fish - carefully selected for low mercury content), limit my alcohol intake, exercise 3-4 times a week and overall try to live healthy and happy by not absorbing stressful situations or people - and of course I pray. That's my current prescription. Maybe see an herbalist that is also an MD. They can provide you with extra herbs that will naturally block free radicals whilst still offering you the knowledge and guidance of western medicine. Ask your oncologist for a referral. To me that is a reasonable balance that will not leave one damaged by any effects of prescriptive drugs. I do however keep a close watch on myself and go for check ups every 6 months and will continue to. Hope this is useful information. Much love to you and congrats for pushing through the past! Warmly - Cate et> wrote: , Welcome to the group. I was ER neg so couldn't take Tamoxifen but there are quite a few ladies that are on it or have been on it. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html BreastCancerStories.com http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments at www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html Lots of info and gifts at: www.cancerclub.com What should I do? hi, I am a 4 yr breast cancer survivor. I was 31 when I first found out about everything. I had a lumpectomy, auxillary lymphnode disection, radiation and now I am taking Tamoxifen. My children were 4 and 9 at the time. My, now, ex-husband left me when I got cancer. I left home and took my kids and myself from IL to CA to live with my aunt and receive treatments. Here I am 4 years later and have re-married. My life is never better and I am happier than I ever been. Sometimes, I say that getting cancer was a blessing in disguise because it made me stronger than I ever thought I could be and made me realize that I was in a marriage that was ruining my children and my own self esteem. But, now that I am re-married and the question of children has come up. I want more children. But, I am taking Tamoxifen and I still have 1 1/2 years to go. From what I understand anout Tamoxifen is that in the beginning you get the most benefits. THe longer you take it the less benefits you receive from it. Basically, the majority of the benefits are received with in the first 3 years of being on the drug. What is the sense in taking it the whole 5 years if it only increases the percentages by a 1/4 of a percent. Is there anyone out there that has just decided to stop taking it before the 5 year mark? And what did your doctor tell you? Is it all that bad to stop? As of today, I have decided to stop. I would just like to know if there is anyone out there in the same boat that I am in. It is all so confusing. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/461 - Release Date: 10/2/2006 Quote
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