Re: Not sure where to start

[Guest guest]

> My son is 4 years old and autistic. I've been trying to look into

> chelation but I don't know where to begin.

You can start with my site page, if you want. It has general info and

links to other places to obtain more info.

http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm

> I live in a rural area and know of no doctor that is an expert in

> chelation.

I chelated my kids without a doctor. I use ALA.

>>Is any of this non-prescribed

> stuff legitimate?

My son is recovered. I would estimate that 60% of his recovery was

from ALA chelation, which is non-prescription.

>> Is there one 'method' that works or many that work

> equally well?

Depends on what metals you are trying to remove.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> > My son is 4 years old and autistic. I've been trying to look

into

> > chelation but I don't know where to begin.

>

>

> You can start with my site page, if you want. It has general info

and

> links to other places to obtain more info.

>

> http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm

>

>

> > I live in a rural area and know of no doctor that is an expert in

> > chelation.

>

>

> I chelated my kids without a doctor. I use ALA.

>

>

> >>Is any of this non-prescribed

> > stuff legitimate?

>

>

> My son is recovered. I would estimate that 60% of his recovery was

> from ALA chelation, which is non-prescription.

>

>

> >> Is there one 'method' that works or many that work

> > equally well?

>

>

> Depends on what metals you are trying to remove.

>

> Dana

Thanks for the information. I know that I need to get him tested but

the metal I had in mind was mercury.

[Guest guest]

> > >> Is there one 'method' that works or many that work

> > > equally well?

> >

> >

> > Depends on what metals you are trying to remove.

> >

> > Dana

>

> Thanks for the information. I know that I need to get him tested but

> the metal I had in mind was mercury.

Well, I used ALA and it appears to have worked for mercury. Others

use DMSA/ALA. There are other ideas out there also.

Good luck.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> My son is 4 years old and autistic. I've been trying to look into

> chelation but I don't know where to begin.

>

> As far as getting him tested (this is where to start, right??), I

> found a place called The Great Plains Laboratory. Do I ask his

> doctor if he will order these tests and send them to that

laboratory

> or should I do them on my own and just pay cash?

First, please read:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_hair_test.html

You can ask a doctor to sign, yes, that is one option,

and it will cost less for the test if you do it this way.

You CAN'T " just do it on your own " . The lab is legally

required to have this test ordered by a licensed

practitioner, they can't let consumers order it.

(There are a couple of hair tests that CAN be ordered

by consumers directly. Unfortunately the tests are not

as complete. I have ordered one. There was some sort

of " legaleze " I signed.) You can order the test

" sort of " on your own through DLS-- see info at URL above.

Also, Great Plains Labs is fine for the hair test--- they

actually have the test run by DDI, so it is a DDI test.

(You will see why I say this when you read the info at

URL.....) Just be sure to get the hair elements rather

than the hair toxic elements.

> As far as hair

> goes, does it have to be " new " hair? Does it have to be from the

> root or just hair that was cut off about a month ago (his last

> haircut)?

the directions from the lab will say to use the inch of hair

closest to the head (this is the " new " hair), and to cut it

from the back of the head, near the neck. If you use older

hair you will get an " older " result -- that is, you will

find out what was going on at the past point. It is OKAY

to use slightly older hair, although I have used " new " hair

(and followed the directions) when I have done tests.

I guess I would say that if there is a NEED to use older

hair, okay.

>

> I live in a rural area and know of no doctor that is an expert in

> chelation.

this is very normal and common. Also, since " experts " vary

WILDLY in what they recommend, even if you had several experts

handy, they would likely all differ in their recommendations.

>

> I saw a few websites offering different products. One was oral

and

> another was a suppository (Detoxamin). Is any of this non-

prescribed

> stuff legitimate? Is there one 'method' that works or many that

work

> equally well?

There are 2 main ideas I want to get across in response to your

question.

1. IDEAS VARY WILDLY. NOT A LITTLE BIT. ***WILDLY***

I am not exaggerating, I am not making this up. I am trying

to give you an idea what to expect. It is still likely to

be really disconcerting, but figure at least " you have been

warned " . " Rocky waters ahead " . Experts disagree on very

basic things.

2. In my opionion (which is mine, subjective and biased by

my ideas, experiences, etc), the following is the safest

EFFECTIVE method that I know of:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html

This doesn't mean that other methods do not work FOR SOME

PEOPLE, nor does it mean that this method will help EVERYONE,

nor that it has no risks or downsides. You should also

know that many people on THIS list use more or less the

method outlined at the URL above. So on this list you are

quite likely to be exposed to this set of ideas. On other

lists you will be exposed to other ideas more. See #1 above.

good wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

I would look at doing Candex and No-Fenol first thing in the morning on an

empty stomach, follow up 20/30 minutes later with a drop of GSE. After

Breakfast when his stomach is empty again, give him the probiotics. At

night when he goes to bed, give the probiotics again. This should help with

Yeast and is a pretty " mild " approach that works very well for us.

Regarding your experience with the HepB-MMR regression, that sounds to me

like a likely case of the Measles Virus taking hold in the digestive track.

You might want to look seriously at the Vitamin-A protocol to kill the

measles virus off. We plan to do this sometime around round 30.

Sounds to me like you aren't so " dumb " most of what you listed looks pretty

" smart " to me .... :-)

Good luck !

Neil

[ ] not sure where to start

Im new to the site. Im not really sure where to start. I have a 4

year old on the spectrum. Wesley talked in sentences and was very

advanced at age 18 months. Had a Hep b shot and MMR, seized within a

few days and didnt speak again until almost 3 1/2, lost eye contact,

repeats lines, visual stims, constipation, etc. Right now he is on

colostrum, Vit c, Multi vit/ multi mineral supp, glutathione,

probiotics, Omega 3, and Cod liver, and krill oil. Just finished all

the testing from Great plains laboratory but not sure what to do with

the info. Recently we just started one drop of GSE in the morning and

he now wakes up only once at night instead of every 30 min. tend to

increase it slowly.

Question - what should I attack next Chelation ALA, Viruses Virastop,

OLE, Vitamin A, or what? How do you know what is most important. I

feel like I should chelate, although I know he has virus issues, he

spent most of his time in the hospital after the immunization. How do

you know what behavior is connected to what biological issue. Sorry

if I sound dumb, this is all new to me and I just want to do whats

best for my son. Is it just trial and error.

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[Guest guest]

Welcome!

Your questions are good questions, not dumb at all. First of all,

did you get the Hair Elements Test when you did the Great Plains

testing? If so, you can post the results here (there's a template in

the files that you can cut and paste) and someone will help you

interpret them to know if mercury, lead, or other metals are

implicated. If you didn't get this test, you will probably want to

order one.

It does sound like you may be dealing with viral issues. One of our

listmates has compiled a very helpful file on viruses, again in the

files section. Please take a look at that when you have a chance.

Many parents here started with chelation, if indicated, and then once

the child had been chelated for a while, and is clearly doing well

with that, they began an antiviral protocol. Chelation takes a long

time to do right, and shouldn't be put off for longer than

necessary. All the basic information you will need to implement a

safe chelation protocol is, again, in the files (do I sound like a

broken record yet? :-)) and of course you can always ask questions

here.

take care

René

>

> Im new to the site. Im not really sure where to start. Just

finished all

> the testing from Great plains laboratory but not sure what to do

with

> the info. > Question - what should I attack next Chelation ALA,

Viruses Virastop,

> OLE, Vitamin A, or what? How do you know what is most important.

I

> feel like I should chelate, although I know he has virus issues, he

> spent most of his time in the hospital after the immunization. How

do

> you know what behavior is connected to what biological issue.

Sorry

> if I sound dumb, this is all new to me and I just want to do whats

> best for my son. Is it just trial and error.

>