Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 In a message dated 2/14/2004 11:32:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, moblock@... writes: > she agreed me > and my two kids have mercury poisoning, that we should be chelated but > she seems to think we need to explore the McCandless Allithiamine > route. It seems to me that the McCandless people are very focused on test results -- they depend on test results to tell them what works and what doesn't rather than observations of the child. IMO, if my child is not doing better, then seeing a test result that indicates the child is excreting whatever doesn't mean a whole lot. The reason I went with Andy's protocol was the number of parents and adults who reported really good results -- not test results, but improvements in the children. I'm getting the same good results, starting with the first round. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 So, I reviewed Andy Cutler's report with my doctor and she agreed me and my two kids have mercury poisoning, that we should be chelated but she seems to think we need to explore the McCandless Allithiamine route. For some reason, she has the impression it is a safer form of chelation. Of course, I do not know what she is talking about since it is not a chelator (as per Andy). She said that McCandless had done urine testing and the mercury was coming out. Query as to whether McCandless was also giving ALA. Of course, she is concerned with safety ... as am I. I told her I wanted to chelate with ALA and DMPS or DMSA. She is willing to explore this. I told her to go ahead and call McCandless and get the skinny, and then we could have a conference call with Cutler, but what protocol is my doctor talking about? I know I will eventually end up where I need to be, but these doctors are costing me money in the meantime .... not to mention delay. I also reminded her that my last doctor kind of badly screwed me up with Allithiamine (oh, and without mentioning it (it said Thiocid on the bottle and I didn't know what it was), ALA once every 24 hours). What is Allithiamine, what is it chemically, what is it good for (whether you have mercury or not)? I was going to sell my old bottle on EBay but I don't know what its selling points are yet. And, what protocol can my doctor be talking about? Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 There are several pages on this TTFD treatment in the McCandless book, Children with Starving Brains. It is toward the back of the 2nd edition under a chapter called something like " new developments. " Best, Lora _________________________________________________________________ Plan your next US getaway to one of the super destinations here. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 As per Andy, allithiamine is not a chelator, however, it does provide thiamine which may be needed somewhere to help stimulate the detox process. Just thinking out loud here - I'm sure someone can address the chemistry better. [ ] Allithiamine So, I reviewed Andy Cutler's report with my doctor and she agreed me and my two kids have mercury poisoning, that we should be chelated but she seems to think we need to explore the McCandless Allithiamine route. For some reason, she has the impression it is a safer form of chelation. Of course, I do not know what she is talking about since it is not a chelator (as per Andy). She said that McCandless had done urine testing and the mercury was coming out. Query as to whether McCandless was also giving ALA. Of course, she is concerned with safety ... as am I. I told her I wanted to chelate with ALA and DMPS or DMSA. She is willing to explore this. I told her to go ahead and call McCandless and get the skinny, and then we could have a conference call with Cutler, but what protocol is my doctor talking about? I know I will eventually end up where I need to be, but these doctors are costing me money in the meantime .... not to mention delay. I also reminded her that my last doctor kind of badly screwed me up with Allithiamine (oh, and without mentioning it (it said Thiocid on the bottle and I didn't know what it was), ALA once every 24 hours). What is Allithiamine, what is it chemically, what is it good for (whether you have mercury or not)? I was going to sell my old bottle on EBay but I don't know what its selling points are yet. And, what protocol can my doctor be talking about? Maureen ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Since allithiamine isn't a chelating agent, doesn't remove any heavy metals, and is very dangerous, she apparently needs some remedial chemistry lessons complete with lecture on not playing around irresponsibly with dangerous chemicals. You seem to be able to do more damage faster with allithiamine than with DMSA or ALA on the worst chelation schedule I have ever heard of, too. It isn't like the stuff is inherently safer. She may be having trouble with her religious indoctrination in med school where anything an MD says must be true and anything anyone else says must be questioned, hence her unwillingness to take a chemist's word that if you look up what the " TFD " part of TTFD is you will find a very toxic compound that one takes careful precautions when handling in the laboratory. Andy . . . . . . . . .. > So, I reviewed Andy Cutler's report with my doctor and she agreed me > and my two kids have mercury poisoning, that we should be chelated but > she seems to think we need to explore the McCandless Allithiamine > route. For some reason, she has the impression it is a safer form of > chelation. Of course, I do not know what she is talking about since it > is not a chelator (as per Andy). She said that McCandless had done > urine testing and the mercury was coming out. Directly confront this as false, saying that the publised information (Lonsdale) clearly indicates it isn't, and many people participating in these studies have disclosed their results and the results also clearly do not indicate this. > Query as to whether > McCandless was also giving ALA. Of course, she is concerned with > safety ... as am I. I told her I wanted to chelate with ALA and DMPS > or DMSA. She is willing to explore this. I told her to go ahead and > call McCandless and get the skinny, and then we could have a conference > call with Cutler, but what protocol is my doctor talking about? One of the ones I refer to as " psychotically delusional. " > I know > I will eventually end up where I need to be, but these doctors are > costing me money in the meantime .... not to mention delay. Discuss this with her, also discuss the fact that most of these things are OTC and readily available. > I also reminded her that my last doctor kind of badly screwed me up > with Allithiamine (oh, and without mentioning it (it said Thiocid on > the bottle and I didn't know what it was), ALA once every 24 hours). The last doctor was of course following the McCandless protocol that your doctor now wants to try....... > What is Allithiamine, what is it chemically, Vitamin B-1 bonded to a toxic petroleum derivative. > what is it good for Preventing Korsakoff's psychosis in alcoholics if SMALL AMOUNGS are used to fortify alcoholic beverages. There is no other demonstrated use. > (whether you have mercury or not)? I was going to sell my old bottle > on EBay but I don't know what its selling points are yet. And, what > protocol can my doctor be talking about? > > Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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