International Board of Clinical Metal Toxicology - Andy ??

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Hi,

I saw a doctor today in Sydney, Australia to discuss chelation. He uses the

DPMS challenge test as part of his testing protocol. I told him that based

upon what I'd read on the internet I was not prepared to do this test. His

reply was that they'd tested hundreds of patients and not had any bad

reactions; he did state that they ensured that the IV drip took a total of

10 minutes to be administered.

However, he strongly believes in Electro Dermal Screening using a device he

referred to as the Listen test. So, in order to proceed with this guy

regarding chelation, I have to undergo Listen testing, which I'm prepared

to do.

However, when I asked him what he uses for mercury chelation, he said DMSA.

And, according to the protocol put forth by the International Board of

Clinical Metal Toxicology, www.ibcmt.com, they advise 3 days on, 11 days off.

And, the frequency of dosage they recommend is that DMSA be taken every 8

hours. So, what I'm asking is, does anybody know anything about this

organization and have any comments regarding it? Their Web site does not

really reveal much.

I must admit I'm very tempted just to get ALA and go it alone, although I'd

prefer to take it with either DMSA or DMPS.

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

>

> I saw a doctor today in Sydney, Australia to discuss chelation. He

uses the

> DPMS challenge test as part of his testing protocol. I told him

that based

> upon what I'd read on the internet I was not prepared to do this

test. His

> reply was that they'd tested hundreds of patients and not had any

bad

> reactions; he did state that they ensured that the IV drip took a

total of

> 10 minutes to be administered.

I've heard stuff like this from doctors too. It is confusing.

I have also heard people (in person as well as on the internet)

describe their bad experiences with DMPS IV!

>> And, the frequency of dosage they recommend is that DMSA be taken

every 8

> hours. So, what I'm asking is, does anybody know anything about

this

> organization and have any comments regarding it? Their Web site

does not

> really reveal much.

I could comment on the every 8 hours thing, but I don't

know about the organization. I'm not sure the organization

matters a lot. I guess it doesn't to me, personally. There

might be things about the group that are wonderful. But I

think that every 4 hours DOES matter, and in relation to that

I don't feel like the organization matters one way or another.

But the group may have other good or bad points, or useful

initiatives, or whatever.

>

> I must admit I'm very tempted just to get ALA and go it alone,

although I'd

> prefer to take it with either DMSA or DMPS.

You can buy DMSA without a perscription. Here is a listing

of sources:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_buy_DMSA.html

Moria

[Guest guest]

At 07:39 PM 10/03/2004, you wrote:

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > I saw a doctor today in Sydney, Australia to discuss chelation. He

>uses the

> > DPMS challenge test as part of his testing protocol. I told him

>that based

> > upon what I'd read on the internet I was not prepared to do this

>test. His

> > reply was that they'd tested hundreds of patients and not had any

>bad

> > reactions; he did state that they ensured that the IV drip took a

>total of

> > 10 minutes to be administered.

>

>I've heard stuff like this from doctors too. It is confusing.

>I have also heard people (in person as well as on the internet)

>describe their bad experiences with DMPS IV!

>

> >> And, the frequency of dosage they recommend is that DMSA be taken

>every 8

> > hours. So, what I'm asking is, does anybody know anything about

>this

> > organization and have any comments regarding it? Their Web site

>does not

> > really reveal much.

>

>I could comment on the every 8 hours thing, but I don't

>know about the organization. I'm not sure the organization

>matters a lot. I guess it doesn't to me, personally. There

>might be things about the group that are wonderful. But I

>think that every 4 hours DOES matter, and in relation to that

>I don't feel like the organization matters one way or another.

>But the group may have other good or bad points, or useful

>initiatives, or whatever.

My question was more from the perspective " the doctor I saw who does

chelation believes said organization has experts " , therefore, does anyone

on this list know anything about these guys? Or, at least heard of them.

Let me assure you, if I take DMSA it'll be every 4 hours or every 3 if

combined with ALA.

> >

> > I must admit I'm very tempted just to get ALA and go it alone,

>although I'd

> > prefer to take it with either DMSA or DMPS.

>

>You can buy DMSA without a perscription. Here is a listing

>of sources:

><http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_buy_DMSA.html>http://home.earthlink.n\

et/~moriam/HOW_TO_buy_DMSA.html

Thanks for that; I hadn't yet looked at that page, don't know why but it

contains a lot of useful information.

>Moria

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

> My question was more from the perspective " the doctor I saw who does

> chelation believes said organization has experts " , therefore, does

anyone

> on this list know anything about these guys? Or, at least heard of them.

okay, sorry I headed the wrong direction, just offering what I can.

> Let me assure you, if I take DMSA it'll be every 4 hours or every 3 if

> combined with ALA.

okay, good. -- yeah, I like to mention that -- glad you already are

familiar with the issue. I know if can be repetitive if you

already know, but I sometimes prefer to err on the side of

saying it again " in case " . And some people don't feel it is

important, which is okay with me, but best if people at least

are informed about it.

> > > I must admit I'm very tempted just to get ALA and go it alone,

> >although I'd

> > > prefer to take it with either DMSA or DMPS.

> >

> >You can buy DMSA without a perscription. Here is a listing

> >of sources:

>

><http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_buy_DMSA.html>http://home.earthlink.n\

et/~moriam/HOW_TO_buy_DMSA.html

>

> Thanks for that; I hadn't yet looked at that page, don't know why

but it

> contains a lot of useful information.

good ! Lots of people use DMSA from VRP. You can see if there is

any other " stuff you missed " :

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/

Moria