Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Well I don't want to start any wars either... as I've said in our instance the classroom ban worked very well and every parent was supportive of it. We participate in the latex ban for the child at my daughters school. I'd participate in any ban if it was a matter of someone's health, to me thats a no brainer. My child is at school for 1 meal a day, 5 days a week, 180 days a year, thats not so much, we can just eat the banned products at home if we want them. Its not a biggie for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Well I don't want to start any wars either... as I've said in our instance the classroom ban worked very well and every parent was supportive of it. We participate in the latex ban for the child at my daughters school. I'd participate in any ban if it was a matter of someone's health, to me thats a no brainer. My child is at school for 1 meal a day, 5 days a week, 180 days a year, thats not so much, we can just eat the banned products at home if we want them. Its not a biggie for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Well I don't want to start any wars either... as I've said in our instance the classroom ban worked very well and every parent was supportive of it. We participate in the latex ban for the child at my daughters school. I'd participate in any ban if it was a matter of someone's health, to me thats a no brainer. My child is at school for 1 meal a day, 5 days a week, 180 days a year, thats not so much, we can just eat the banned products at home if we want them. Its not a biggie for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I think you are coming to terms with one of the more difficult burdens of CD. If an individual has, say, MS or is autistic or highly asthmatic generally these symptoms are very apparent to others so we, by our genetic programming, recognize these individuals as " different " and we adjust. But a person with CD can otherwise look and act completely " normal " so often the reponse from others is " what's *your* problem? " It's a bit harder to catch some slack. It seems terribly unfair. Awareness is a large factor. Peanut allergies are better known than gluten toxicity plus the fact that an individual can die on the spot from peanut exposure adds urgency. It was only a decade or so ago that the medical community began to accept that celiac was more than a rare childhood disorder. We're past the " pioneering " days but it's still rather early in the disease's timeline. I always think, gee, if I were born a few centuries ago I'd probably be dead by now. We spend a LOT of money in the US on health care so I believe we expect a lot from medicine. We don't want to wait until the day when celiacs can live like normal people. But that day is not here and coming to terms with reality and developing a coping strategy is something we have to pursue, even if it is unfair and rotten. You can however always find someone else who has a more difficult burden to bear. It's tough to see that some people seem to have it so well but long-term angst likely will only do yourself more harm, though of course this is easier said than done. Sometimes we may realize we may have a spirituality crisis. I don't want to touch that electrified rail called religion but various faith systems often share the same foundation and its important to revisit various truths now and then. We are alive. We have free will. No one or no thing has any more control over our minds and spirits than ourselves. It's time to stop worrying about what you don't have or can't have and start living. If we believe in a Creator maybe this is His plan, maybe these burdens of ours have reasons beyond our comprehension. Maybe we can become stronger people because of our challenges. We all will die, that day will come, but here I am living in the present moment and everything is before me. Where will my next step take me? > > I have watched this thread and feel compelled to put my two cents > in. I know it'll probably result in curses and flames - but > everyone is entitled to their opinion (at least I hope we all feel > that way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I think you are coming to terms with one of the more difficult burdens of CD. If an individual has, say, MS or is autistic or highly asthmatic generally these symptoms are very apparent to others so we, by our genetic programming, recognize these individuals as " different " and we adjust. But a person with CD can otherwise look and act completely " normal " so often the reponse from others is " what's *your* problem? " It's a bit harder to catch some slack. It seems terribly unfair. Awareness is a large factor. Peanut allergies are better known than gluten toxicity plus the fact that an individual can die on the spot from peanut exposure adds urgency. It was only a decade or so ago that the medical community began to accept that celiac was more than a rare childhood disorder. We're past the " pioneering " days but it's still rather early in the disease's timeline. I always think, gee, if I were born a few centuries ago I'd probably be dead by now. We spend a LOT of money in the US on health care so I believe we expect a lot from medicine. We don't want to wait until the day when celiacs can live like normal people. But that day is not here and coming to terms with reality and developing a coping strategy is something we have to pursue, even if it is unfair and rotten. You can however always find someone else who has a more difficult burden to bear. It's tough to see that some people seem to have it so well but long-term angst likely will only do yourself more harm, though of course this is easier said than done. Sometimes we may realize we may have a spirituality crisis. I don't want to touch that electrified rail called religion but various faith systems often share the same foundation and its important to revisit various truths now and then. We are alive. We have free will. No one or no thing has any more control over our minds and spirits than ourselves. It's time to stop worrying about what you don't have or can't have and start living. If we believe in a Creator maybe this is His plan, maybe these burdens of ours have reasons beyond our comprehension. Maybe we can become stronger people because of our challenges. We all will die, that day will come, but here I am living in the present moment and everything is before me. Where will my next step take me? > > I have watched this thread and feel compelled to put my two cents > in. I know it'll probably result in curses and flames - but > everyone is entitled to their opinion (at least I hope we all feel > that way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 The squeaky wheel gets the grease! After having another discussion with my daughter's first grade teacher, he put out a notice to the parents plainly, bluntly but politely requiring them to give him advance notice for all parties. He's a great teacher and honestly I think it irritated him that parents would, unannounced, show up with cupcakes. I wish I saved the letter. I chuckled when I read it b/c the way he said it, he made the parent aware of their actions and see how they are excluding the the children w/food allergies the pleasure of participating in their child's birthday celebration. > > > > > > > > > > > > As a parent of a child with airborne peanut reactions and > > > > > anaphylactic > > > > > > reactions with any contact to peanuts.... no I don't > expect > > > the > > > > > entire > > > > > > classroom or the school to be " responsible " for my > daughters > > > > > allergy but I > > > > > > do expect them to take reasonable steps to protect my > child > > > from > > > > > dying, > > > > > > which is what the reaction could easily be with her level > of > > > > > allergy. This > > > > > > was especially true when she was in elementary school. As > a > > > > young > > > > > child she > > > > > > didn't have the skills enough to recognize situations > where > > > she > > > > was > > > > > at risk > > > > > > so at that age, yes I expected the school to take steps to > > > keep > > > > her > > > > > safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very happy to report back then the principal of her > > school > > > > > agreed with > > > > > > me and asked the parents in her classroom to voluntarily > > not > > > > send > > > > > their > > > > > > kids with peanut products. Every single parent complied > > with > > > > this > > > > > request, > > > > > > every single year. The parents had my phone number and > > would > > > > call > > > > > me about > > > > > > products they had at home. It worked out wonderfully for > > us. > > > > Were > > > > > mistakes > > > > > > made (like with power/snack bars)? Maybe so but I'm not > > aware > > > > of > > > > > any, every > > > > > > single parent was so nice about it, my daughter became > > > > everyone's > > > > > child and > > > > > > on field trips and such..... all the parents were > constantly > > > > > monitoring food > > > > > > and snacks around her (I did go on every field trip). > > > > > > > > > > > > They decided not to ban peanuts in the entire school but > > gave > > > my > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > separate lounge to eat her lunch in (she could pick 5 > > friends > > > a > > > > day > > > > > to eat > > > > > > there with her). Again the precautions that everyone took > > for > > > > us > > > > > really > > > > > > worked... she was in that school for 5 years (to 4th > grade) > > > and > > > > > only had 2 > > > > > > reactions. Then she went to another school where they > > didn't > > > > take > > > > > the issue > > > > > > as seriously and she would have to come home or go to the > > > > hospital > > > > > 3 times a > > > > > > week, her grades suffered, her confidence suffered and she > > got > > > > > behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now she is in 8th grade and she has only had a few > reactions > > > > this > > > > > year, the > > > > > > only precaution she has is a peanut free lunch table but, > > the > > > > > difference is > > > > > > that she can now read labels, she is old enough and mature > > > > enough > > > > > to take > > > > > > care of her allergy. The other saving grace is that in > > Middle > > > > > school very > > > > > > few kids eat PB & J its just not " cool " . > > > > > > > > > > > > So you know what... it really does take a village to keep > > our > > > > kids > > > > > happy and > > > > > > healthy and I guess I've convinced myself that I do expect > > > help > > > > and > > > > > > understanding from others... I'd certainly do it for their > > > kids > > > > (in > > > > > my > > > > > > daughters school there is a child with latex allergy so > > severe > > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > entire school does not have ANY latex in it and I'm happy > to > > > > abide > > > > > by that > > > > > > rule). > > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that your child has asthma and celiac, those > > are > > > > very > > > > > > different then an anaphylactic airborne peanut allergy, I > > know > > > > > about them > > > > > > first hand too, my peanut girl has both! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 50 parents (one classroom) responsible for the > safety > > of > > > > > someone > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 500 parents (entire school) responsible for the > safety > > > of > > > > > someone > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the parent of a child with not only celiac but also a > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > list of allergies and intolerances, I do not expect > other > > > > parents > > > > > to > > > > > > > be responsible for my child's safety. To date, he has > not > > > had > > > > any > > > > > > > analphylactic reactions, but I have already been warned > by > > > the > > > > > > > allergist he is at risk for them, and he does have major > > > asthma > > > > > > > attacks from certain allergens. Dogs are a major trigger > > for > > > > his > > > > > > > asthma *and people can die from asthma in a very few > > > minutes* > > > > *, > > > > > can I > > > > > > > ban dogs in all public places because of one person's > > needs? > > > > He > > > > > also > > > > > > > reacts to " secondhand dog " on other people's clothes, > can > > I > > > > insist > > > > > > > every child in class live in a dog-free home? No, > neither > > of > > > > > those is > > > > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 The squeaky wheel gets the grease! After having another discussion with my daughter's first grade teacher, he put out a notice to the parents plainly, bluntly but politely requiring them to give him advance notice for all parties. He's a great teacher and honestly I think it irritated him that parents would, unannounced, show up with cupcakes. I wish I saved the letter. I chuckled when I read it b/c the way he said it, he made the parent aware of their actions and see how they are excluding the the children w/food allergies the pleasure of participating in their child's birthday celebration. > > > > > > > > > > > > As a parent of a child with airborne peanut reactions and > > > > > anaphylactic > > > > > > reactions with any contact to peanuts.... no I don't > expect > > > the > > > > > entire > > > > > > classroom or the school to be " responsible " for my > daughters > > > > > allergy but I > > > > > > do expect them to take reasonable steps to protect my > child > > > from > > > > > dying, > > > > > > which is what the reaction could easily be with her level > of > > > > > allergy. This > > > > > > was especially true when she was in elementary school. As > a > > > > young > > > > > child she > > > > > > didn't have the skills enough to recognize situations > where > > > she > > > > was > > > > > at risk > > > > > > so at that age, yes I expected the school to take steps to > > > keep > > > > her > > > > > safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very happy to report back then the principal of her > > school > > > > > agreed with > > > > > > me and asked the parents in her classroom to voluntarily > > not > > > > send > > > > > their > > > > > > kids with peanut products. Every single parent complied > > with > > > > this > > > > > request, > > > > > > every single year. The parents had my phone number and > > would > > > > call > > > > > me about > > > > > > products they had at home. It worked out wonderfully for > > us. > > > > Were > > > > > mistakes > > > > > > made (like with power/snack bars)? Maybe so but I'm not > > aware > > > > of > > > > > any, every > > > > > > single parent was so nice about it, my daughter became > > > > everyone's > > > > > child and > > > > > > on field trips and such..... all the parents were > constantly > > > > > monitoring food > > > > > > and snacks around her (I did go on every field trip). > > > > > > > > > > > > They decided not to ban peanuts in the entire school but > > gave > > > my > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > separate lounge to eat her lunch in (she could pick 5 > > friends > > > a > > > > day > > > > > to eat > > > > > > there with her). Again the precautions that everyone took > > for > > > > us > > > > > really > > > > > > worked... she was in that school for 5 years (to 4th > grade) > > > and > > > > > only had 2 > > > > > > reactions. Then she went to another school where they > > didn't > > > > take > > > > > the issue > > > > > > as seriously and she would have to come home or go to the > > > > hospital > > > > > 3 times a > > > > > > week, her grades suffered, her confidence suffered and she > > got > > > > > behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now she is in 8th grade and she has only had a few > reactions > > > > this > > > > > year, the > > > > > > only precaution she has is a peanut free lunch table but, > > the > > > > > difference is > > > > > > that she can now read labels, she is old enough and mature > > > > enough > > > > > to take > > > > > > care of her allergy. The other saving grace is that in > > Middle > > > > > school very > > > > > > few kids eat PB & J its just not " cool " . > > > > > > > > > > > > So you know what... it really does take a village to keep > > our > > > > kids > > > > > happy and > > > > > > healthy and I guess I've convinced myself that I do expect > > > help > > > > and > > > > > > understanding from others... I'd certainly do it for their > > > kids > > > > (in > > > > > my > > > > > > daughters school there is a child with latex allergy so > > severe > > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > entire school does not have ANY latex in it and I'm happy > to > > > > abide > > > > > by that > > > > > > rule). > > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that your child has asthma and celiac, those > > are > > > > very > > > > > > different then an anaphylactic airborne peanut allergy, I > > know > > > > > about them > > > > > > first hand too, my peanut girl has both! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 50 parents (one classroom) responsible for the > safety > > of > > > > > someone > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 500 parents (entire school) responsible for the > safety > > > of > > > > > someone > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the parent of a child with not only celiac but also a > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > list of allergies and intolerances, I do not expect > other > > > > parents > > > > > to > > > > > > > be responsible for my child's safety. To date, he has > not > > > had > > > > any > > > > > > > analphylactic reactions, but I have already been warned > by > > > the > > > > > > > allergist he is at risk for them, and he does have major > > > asthma > > > > > > > attacks from certain allergens. Dogs are a major trigger > > for > > > > his > > > > > > > asthma *and people can die from asthma in a very few > > > minutes* > > > > *, > > > > > can I > > > > > > > ban dogs in all public places because of one person's > > needs? > > > > He > > > > > also > > > > > > > reacts to " secondhand dog " on other people's clothes, > can > > I > > > > insist > > > > > > > every child in class live in a dog-free home? No, > neither > > of > > > > > those is > > > > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 The squeaky wheel gets the grease! After having another discussion with my daughter's first grade teacher, he put out a notice to the parents plainly, bluntly but politely requiring them to give him advance notice for all parties. He's a great teacher and honestly I think it irritated him that parents would, unannounced, show up with cupcakes. I wish I saved the letter. I chuckled when I read it b/c the way he said it, he made the parent aware of their actions and see how they are excluding the the children w/food allergies the pleasure of participating in their child's birthday celebration. > > > > > > > > > > > > As a parent of a child with airborne peanut reactions and > > > > > anaphylactic > > > > > > reactions with any contact to peanuts.... no I don't > expect > > > the > > > > > entire > > > > > > classroom or the school to be " responsible " for my > daughters > > > > > allergy but I > > > > > > do expect them to take reasonable steps to protect my > child > > > from > > > > > dying, > > > > > > which is what the reaction could easily be with her level > of > > > > > allergy. This > > > > > > was especially true when she was in elementary school. As > a > > > > young > > > > > child she > > > > > > didn't have the skills enough to recognize situations > where > > > she > > > > was > > > > > at risk > > > > > > so at that age, yes I expected the school to take steps to > > > keep > > > > her > > > > > safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very happy to report back then the principal of her > > school > > > > > agreed with > > > > > > me and asked the parents in her classroom to voluntarily > > not > > > > send > > > > > their > > > > > > kids with peanut products. Every single parent complied > > with > > > > this > > > > > request, > > > > > > every single year. The parents had my phone number and > > would > > > > call > > > > > me about > > > > > > products they had at home. It worked out wonderfully for > > us. > > > > Were > > > > > mistakes > > > > > > made (like with power/snack bars)? Maybe so but I'm not > > aware > > > > of > > > > > any, every > > > > > > single parent was so nice about it, my daughter became > > > > everyone's > > > > > child and > > > > > > on field trips and such..... all the parents were > constantly > > > > > monitoring food > > > > > > and snacks around her (I did go on every field trip). > > > > > > > > > > > > They decided not to ban peanuts in the entire school but > > gave > > > my > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > separate lounge to eat her lunch in (she could pick 5 > > friends > > > a > > > > day > > > > > to eat > > > > > > there with her). Again the precautions that everyone took > > for > > > > us > > > > > really > > > > > > worked... she was in that school for 5 years (to 4th > grade) > > > and > > > > > only had 2 > > > > > > reactions. Then she went to another school where they > > didn't > > > > take > > > > > the issue > > > > > > as seriously and she would have to come home or go to the > > > > hospital > > > > > 3 times a > > > > > > week, her grades suffered, her confidence suffered and she > > got > > > > > behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now she is in 8th grade and she has only had a few > reactions > > > > this > > > > > year, the > > > > > > only precaution she has is a peanut free lunch table but, > > the > > > > > difference is > > > > > > that she can now read labels, she is old enough and mature > > > > enough > > > > > to take > > > > > > care of her allergy. The other saving grace is that in > > Middle > > > > > school very > > > > > > few kids eat PB & J its just not " cool " . > > > > > > > > > > > > So you know what... it really does take a village to keep > > our > > > > kids > > > > > happy and > > > > > > healthy and I guess I've convinced myself that I do expect > > > help > > > > and > > > > > > understanding from others... I'd certainly do it for their > > > kids > > > > (in > > > > > my > > > > > > daughters school there is a child with latex allergy so > > severe > > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > entire school does not have ANY latex in it and I'm happy > to > > > > abide > > > > > by that > > > > > > rule). > > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that your child has asthma and celiac, those > > are > > > > very > > > > > > different then an anaphylactic airborne peanut allergy, I > > know > > > > > about them > > > > > > first hand too, my peanut girl has both! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 50 parents (one classroom) responsible for the > safety > > of > > > > > someone > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 500 parents (entire school) responsible for the > safety > > > of > > > > > someone > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the parent of a child with not only celiac but also a > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > list of allergies and intolerances, I do not expect > other > > > > parents > > > > > to > > > > > > > be responsible for my child's safety. To date, he has > not > > > had > > > > any > > > > > > > analphylactic reactions, but I have already been warned > by > > > the > > > > > > > allergist he is at risk for them, and he does have major > > > asthma > > > > > > > attacks from certain allergens. Dogs are a major trigger > > for > > > > his > > > > > > > asthma *and people can die from asthma in a very few > > > minutes* > > > > *, > > > > > can I > > > > > > > ban dogs in all public places because of one person's > > needs? > > > > He > > > > > also > > > > > > > reacts to " secondhand dog " on other people's clothes, > can > > I > > > > insist > > > > > > > every child in class live in a dog-free home? No, > neither > > of > > > > > those is > > > > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I guess today I do feel the burden of this disease even though it doesn't affect me personally (I don't have CD). But maybe that's part of what makes it harder - my son's life is somewhat out of my control and it's not going to get any easier going forward. I cringe at the thought of him wanting (or god forbid trying) beer! I have yet to get a negative test result and I feel like I have been doing a good job - the best job that I can do and yet I still am failing. At least for me now, there are so many things that make it easy on me. He knows his restrictions and he doesn't balk the slightest at them, probably because I make sure he has equivalents of whatever he might want in the way of " gluten " foods. I am so thankful for that. One thing that has made me realize that there are far worse scenarios is being on this list - I only have CD to deal with. I read about these people who have egg, dairy, soy, nut and who knows what else as far as food allergies. I can't even fathom having to figure out what to eat with all that going on too! No pity-parties for me. Cathy > > > > I have watched this thread and feel compelled to put my two cents > > in. I know it'll probably result in curses and flames - but > > everyone is entitled to their opinion (at least I hope we all feel > > that way). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I guess today I do feel the burden of this disease even though it doesn't affect me personally (I don't have CD). But maybe that's part of what makes it harder - my son's life is somewhat out of my control and it's not going to get any easier going forward. I cringe at the thought of him wanting (or god forbid trying) beer! I have yet to get a negative test result and I feel like I have been doing a good job - the best job that I can do and yet I still am failing. At least for me now, there are so many things that make it easy on me. He knows his restrictions and he doesn't balk the slightest at them, probably because I make sure he has equivalents of whatever he might want in the way of " gluten " foods. I am so thankful for that. One thing that has made me realize that there are far worse scenarios is being on this list - I only have CD to deal with. I read about these people who have egg, dairy, soy, nut and who knows what else as far as food allergies. I can't even fathom having to figure out what to eat with all that going on too! No pity-parties for me. Cathy > > > > I have watched this thread and feel compelled to put my two cents > > in. I know it'll probably result in curses and flames - but > > everyone is entitled to their opinion (at least I hope we all feel > > that way). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I guess today I do feel the burden of this disease even though it doesn't affect me personally (I don't have CD). But maybe that's part of what makes it harder - my son's life is somewhat out of my control and it's not going to get any easier going forward. I cringe at the thought of him wanting (or god forbid trying) beer! I have yet to get a negative test result and I feel like I have been doing a good job - the best job that I can do and yet I still am failing. At least for me now, there are so many things that make it easy on me. He knows his restrictions and he doesn't balk the slightest at them, probably because I make sure he has equivalents of whatever he might want in the way of " gluten " foods. I am so thankful for that. One thing that has made me realize that there are far worse scenarios is being on this list - I only have CD to deal with. I read about these people who have egg, dairy, soy, nut and who knows what else as far as food allergies. I can't even fathom having to figure out what to eat with all that going on too! No pity-parties for me. Cathy > > > > I have watched this thread and feel compelled to put my two cents > > in. I know it'll probably result in curses and flames - but > > everyone is entitled to their opinion (at least I hope we all feel > > that way). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 See and that's what is frustrating me about it too. I've repeatedly asked the teacher to notify parents and she has repeatedly put the word out about advanced-notice, but still the parents don't oblige. Arggh! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a parent of a child with airborne peanut reactions and > > > > > > anaphylactic > > > > > > > reactions with any contact to peanuts.... no I don't > > expect > > > > the > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > classroom or the school to be " responsible " for my > > daughters > > > > > > allergy but I > > > > > > > do expect them to take reasonable steps to protect my > > child > > > > from > > > > > > dying, > > > > > > > which is what the reaction could easily be with her level > > of > > > > > > allergy. This > > > > > > > was especially true when she was in elementary school. > As > > a > > > > > young > > > > > > child she > > > > > > > didn't have the skills enough to recognize situations > > where > > > > she > > > > > was > > > > > > at risk > > > > > > > so at that age, yes I expected the school to take steps > to > > > > keep > > > > > her > > > > > > safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very happy to report back then the principal of her > > > school > > > > > > agreed with > > > > > > > me and asked the parents in her classroom to voluntarily > > > not > > > > > send > > > > > > their > > > > > > > kids with peanut products. Every single parent complied > > > with > > > > > this > > > > > > request, > > > > > > > every single year. The parents had my phone number and > > > would > > > > > call > > > > > > me about > > > > > > > products they had at home. It worked out wonderfully for > > > us. > > > > > Were > > > > > > mistakes > > > > > > > made (like with power/snack bars)? Maybe so but I'm not > > > aware > > > > > of > > > > > > any, every > > > > > > > single parent was so nice about it, my daughter became > > > > > everyone's > > > > > > child and > > > > > > > on field trips and such..... all the parents were > > constantly > > > > > > monitoring food > > > > > > > and snacks around her (I did go on every field trip). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They decided not to ban peanuts in the entire school but > > > gave > > > > my > > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > > separate lounge to eat her lunch in (she could pick 5 > > > friends > > > > a > > > > > day > > > > > > to eat > > > > > > > there with her). Again the precautions that everyone > took > > > for > > > > > us > > > > > > really > > > > > > > worked... she was in that school for 5 years (to 4th > > grade) > > > > and > > > > > > only had 2 > > > > > > > reactions. Then she went to another school where they > > > didn't > > > > > take > > > > > > the issue > > > > > > > as seriously and she would have to come home or go to the > > > > > hospital > > > > > > 3 times a > > > > > > > week, her grades suffered, her confidence suffered and > she > > > got > > > > > > behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now she is in 8th grade and she has only had a few > > reactions > > > > > this > > > > > > year, the > > > > > > > only precaution she has is a peanut free lunch table but, > > > the > > > > > > difference is > > > > > > > that she can now read labels, she is old enough and > mature > > > > > enough > > > > > > to take > > > > > > > care of her allergy. The other saving grace is that in > > > Middle > > > > > > school very > > > > > > > few kids eat PB & J its just not " cool " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you know what... it really does take a village to keep > > > our > > > > > kids > > > > > > happy and > > > > > > > healthy and I guess I've convinced myself that I do > expect > > > > help > > > > > and > > > > > > > understanding from others... I'd certainly do it for > their > > > > kids > > > > > (in > > > > > > my > > > > > > > daughters school there is a child with latex allergy so > > > severe > > > > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > entire school does not have ANY latex in it and I'm happy > > to > > > > > abide > > > > > > by that > > > > > > > rule). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that your child has asthma and celiac, > those > > > are > > > > > very > > > > > > > different then an anaphylactic airborne peanut allergy, I > > > know > > > > > > about them > > > > > > > first hand too, my peanut girl has both! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 50 parents (one classroom) responsible for the > > safety > > > of > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 500 parents (entire school) responsible for the > > safety > > > > of > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the parent of a child with not only celiac but also > a > > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > > list of allergies and intolerances, I do not expect > > other > > > > > parents > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be responsible for my child's safety. To date, he has > > not > > > > had > > > > > any > > > > > > > > analphylactic reactions, but I have already been warned > > by > > > > the > > > > > > > > allergist he is at risk for them, and he does have > major > > > > asthma > > > > > > > > attacks from certain allergens. Dogs are a major > trigger > > > for > > > > > his > > > > > > > > asthma *and people can die from asthma in a very few > > > > minutes* > > > > > *, > > > > > > can I > > > > > > > > ban dogs in all public places because of one person's > > > needs? > > > > > He > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > reacts to " secondhand dog " on other people's clothes, > > can > > > I > > > > > insist > > > > > > > > every child in class live in a dog-free home? No, > > neither > > > of > > > > > > those is > > > > > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 See and that's what is frustrating me about it too. I've repeatedly asked the teacher to notify parents and she has repeatedly put the word out about advanced-notice, but still the parents don't oblige. Arggh! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a parent of a child with airborne peanut reactions and > > > > > > anaphylactic > > > > > > > reactions with any contact to peanuts.... no I don't > > expect > > > > the > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > classroom or the school to be " responsible " for my > > daughters > > > > > > allergy but I > > > > > > > do expect them to take reasonable steps to protect my > > child > > > > from > > > > > > dying, > > > > > > > which is what the reaction could easily be with her level > > of > > > > > > allergy. This > > > > > > > was especially true when she was in elementary school. > As > > a > > > > > young > > > > > > child she > > > > > > > didn't have the skills enough to recognize situations > > where > > > > she > > > > > was > > > > > > at risk > > > > > > > so at that age, yes I expected the school to take steps > to > > > > keep > > > > > her > > > > > > safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very happy to report back then the principal of her > > > school > > > > > > agreed with > > > > > > > me and asked the parents in her classroom to voluntarily > > > not > > > > > send > > > > > > their > > > > > > > kids with peanut products. Every single parent complied > > > with > > > > > this > > > > > > request, > > > > > > > every single year. The parents had my phone number and > > > would > > > > > call > > > > > > me about > > > > > > > products they had at home. It worked out wonderfully for > > > us. > > > > > Were > > > > > > mistakes > > > > > > > made (like with power/snack bars)? Maybe so but I'm not > > > aware > > > > > of > > > > > > any, every > > > > > > > single parent was so nice about it, my daughter became > > > > > everyone's > > > > > > child and > > > > > > > on field trips and such..... all the parents were > > constantly > > > > > > monitoring food > > > > > > > and snacks around her (I did go on every field trip). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They decided not to ban peanuts in the entire school but > > > gave > > > > my > > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > > separate lounge to eat her lunch in (she could pick 5 > > > friends > > > > a > > > > > day > > > > > > to eat > > > > > > > there with her). Again the precautions that everyone > took > > > for > > > > > us > > > > > > really > > > > > > > worked... she was in that school for 5 years (to 4th > > grade) > > > > and > > > > > > only had 2 > > > > > > > reactions. Then she went to another school where they > > > didn't > > > > > take > > > > > > the issue > > > > > > > as seriously and she would have to come home or go to the > > > > > hospital > > > > > > 3 times a > > > > > > > week, her grades suffered, her confidence suffered and > she > > > got > > > > > > behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now she is in 8th grade and she has only had a few > > reactions > > > > > this > > > > > > year, the > > > > > > > only precaution she has is a peanut free lunch table but, > > > the > > > > > > difference is > > > > > > > that she can now read labels, she is old enough and > mature > > > > > enough > > > > > > to take > > > > > > > care of her allergy. The other saving grace is that in > > > Middle > > > > > > school very > > > > > > > few kids eat PB & J its just not " cool " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you know what... it really does take a village to keep > > > our > > > > > kids > > > > > > happy and > > > > > > > healthy and I guess I've convinced myself that I do > expect > > > > help > > > > > and > > > > > > > understanding from others... I'd certainly do it for > their > > > > kids > > > > > (in > > > > > > my > > > > > > > daughters school there is a child with latex allergy so > > > severe > > > > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > entire school does not have ANY latex in it and I'm happy > > to > > > > > abide > > > > > > by that > > > > > > > rule). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that your child has asthma and celiac, > those > > > are > > > > > very > > > > > > > different then an anaphylactic airborne peanut allergy, I > > > know > > > > > > about them > > > > > > > first hand too, my peanut girl has both! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 50 parents (one classroom) responsible for the > > safety > > > of > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 500 parents (entire school) responsible for the > > safety > > > > of > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the parent of a child with not only celiac but also > a > > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > > list of allergies and intolerances, I do not expect > > other > > > > > parents > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be responsible for my child's safety. To date, he has > > not > > > > had > > > > > any > > > > > > > > analphylactic reactions, but I have already been warned > > by > > > > the > > > > > > > > allergist he is at risk for them, and he does have > major > > > > asthma > > > > > > > > attacks from certain allergens. Dogs are a major > trigger > > > for > > > > > his > > > > > > > > asthma *and people can die from asthma in a very few > > > > minutes* > > > > > *, > > > > > > can I > > > > > > > > ban dogs in all public places because of one person's > > > needs? > > > > > He > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > reacts to " secondhand dog " on other people's clothes, > > can > > > I > > > > > insist > > > > > > > > every child in class live in a dog-free home? No, > > neither > > > of > > > > > > those is > > > > > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 See and that's what is frustrating me about it too. I've repeatedly asked the teacher to notify parents and she has repeatedly put the word out about advanced-notice, but still the parents don't oblige. Arggh! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a parent of a child with airborne peanut reactions and > > > > > > anaphylactic > > > > > > > reactions with any contact to peanuts.... no I don't > > expect > > > > the > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > classroom or the school to be " responsible " for my > > daughters > > > > > > allergy but I > > > > > > > do expect them to take reasonable steps to protect my > > child > > > > from > > > > > > dying, > > > > > > > which is what the reaction could easily be with her level > > of > > > > > > allergy. This > > > > > > > was especially true when she was in elementary school. > As > > a > > > > > young > > > > > > child she > > > > > > > didn't have the skills enough to recognize situations > > where > > > > she > > > > > was > > > > > > at risk > > > > > > > so at that age, yes I expected the school to take steps > to > > > > keep > > > > > her > > > > > > safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very happy to report back then the principal of her > > > school > > > > > > agreed with > > > > > > > me and asked the parents in her classroom to voluntarily > > > not > > > > > send > > > > > > their > > > > > > > kids with peanut products. Every single parent complied > > > with > > > > > this > > > > > > request, > > > > > > > every single year. The parents had my phone number and > > > would > > > > > call > > > > > > me about > > > > > > > products they had at home. It worked out wonderfully for > > > us. > > > > > Were > > > > > > mistakes > > > > > > > made (like with power/snack bars)? Maybe so but I'm not > > > aware > > > > > of > > > > > > any, every > > > > > > > single parent was so nice about it, my daughter became > > > > > everyone's > > > > > > child and > > > > > > > on field trips and such..... all the parents were > > constantly > > > > > > monitoring food > > > > > > > and snacks around her (I did go on every field trip). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They decided not to ban peanuts in the entire school but > > > gave > > > > my > > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > > separate lounge to eat her lunch in (she could pick 5 > > > friends > > > > a > > > > > day > > > > > > to eat > > > > > > > there with her). Again the precautions that everyone > took > > > for > > > > > us > > > > > > really > > > > > > > worked... she was in that school for 5 years (to 4th > > grade) > > > > and > > > > > > only had 2 > > > > > > > reactions. Then she went to another school where they > > > didn't > > > > > take > > > > > > the issue > > > > > > > as seriously and she would have to come home or go to the > > > > > hospital > > > > > > 3 times a > > > > > > > week, her grades suffered, her confidence suffered and > she > > > got > > > > > > behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now she is in 8th grade and she has only had a few > > reactions > > > > > this > > > > > > year, the > > > > > > > only precaution she has is a peanut free lunch table but, > > > the > > > > > > difference is > > > > > > > that she can now read labels, she is old enough and > mature > > > > > enough > > > > > > to take > > > > > > > care of her allergy. The other saving grace is that in > > > Middle > > > > > > school very > > > > > > > few kids eat PB & J its just not " cool " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you know what... it really does take a village to keep > > > our > > > > > kids > > > > > > happy and > > > > > > > healthy and I guess I've convinced myself that I do > expect > > > > help > > > > > and > > > > > > > understanding from others... I'd certainly do it for > their > > > > kids > > > > > (in > > > > > > my > > > > > > > daughters school there is a child with latex allergy so > > > severe > > > > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > entire school does not have ANY latex in it and I'm happy > > to > > > > > abide > > > > > > by that > > > > > > > rule). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that your child has asthma and celiac, > those > > > are > > > > > very > > > > > > > different then an anaphylactic airborne peanut allergy, I > > > know > > > > > > about them > > > > > > > first hand too, my peanut girl has both! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 50 parents (one classroom) responsible for the > > safety > > > of > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 500 parents (entire school) responsible for the > > safety > > > > of > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the parent of a child with not only celiac but also > a > > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > > list of allergies and intolerances, I do not expect > > other > > > > > parents > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be responsible for my child's safety. To date, he has > > not > > > > had > > > > > any > > > > > > > > analphylactic reactions, but I have already been warned > > by > > > > the > > > > > > > > allergist he is at risk for them, and he does have > major > > > > asthma > > > > > > > > attacks from certain allergens. Dogs are a major > trigger > > > for > > > > > his > > > > > > > > asthma *and people can die from asthma in a very few > > > > minutes* > > > > > *, > > > > > > can I > > > > > > > > ban dogs in all public places because of one person's > > > needs? > > > > > He > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > reacts to " secondhand dog " on other people's clothes, > > can > > > I > > > > > insist > > > > > > > > every child in class live in a dog-free home? No, > > neither > > > of > > > > > > those is > > > > > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Man, that is frustrating! Have you thought of getting a class list with all the kid's birthday's listed? Then you could have a general idea when a treat would be coming and you could contact that parent at the beginning of the week. I know that puts all the responsibility on you, but it seems like this group of parents won't oblige for whatever reason. This is just my suggestion since I also keep a list of the kid's birthdays on my peg board. If I don't get an email from the teacher about a birthday then I make the first move. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a parent of a child with airborne peanut reactions > and > > > > > > > anaphylactic > > > > > > > > reactions with any contact to peanuts.... no I don't > > > expect > > > > > the > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > classroom or the school to be " responsible " for my > > > daughters > > > > > > > allergy but I > > > > > > > > do expect them to take reasonable steps to protect my > > > child > > > > > from > > > > > > > dying, > > > > > > > > which is what the reaction could easily be with her > level > > > of > > > > > > > allergy. This > > > > > > > > was especially true when she was in elementary > school. > > As > > > a > > > > > > young > > > > > > > child she > > > > > > > > didn't have the skills enough to recognize situations > > > where > > > > > she > > > > > > was > > > > > > > at risk > > > > > > > > so at that age, yes I expected the school to take > steps > > to > > > > > keep > > > > > > her > > > > > > > safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very happy to report back then the principal of > her > > > > school > > > > > > > agreed with > > > > > > > > me and asked the parents in her classroom to > voluntarily > > > > not > > > > > > send > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > kids with peanut products. Every single parent > complied > > > > with > > > > > > this > > > > > > > request, > > > > > > > > every single year. The parents had my phone number > and > > > > would > > > > > > call > > > > > > > me about > > > > > > > > products they had at home. It worked out wonderfully > for > > > > us. > > > > > > Were > > > > > > > mistakes > > > > > > > > made (like with power/snack bars)? Maybe so but I'm > not > > > > aware > > > > > > of > > > > > > > any, every > > > > > > > > single parent was so nice about it, my daughter became > > > > > > everyone's > > > > > > > child and > > > > > > > > on field trips and such..... all the parents were > > > constantly > > > > > > > monitoring food > > > > > > > > and snacks around her (I did go on every field trip). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They decided not to ban peanuts in the entire school > but > > > > gave > > > > > my > > > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > > > separate lounge to eat her lunch in (she could pick 5 > > > > friends > > > > > a > > > > > > day > > > > > > > to eat > > > > > > > > there with her). Again the precautions that everyone > > took > > > > for > > > > > > us > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > worked... she was in that school for 5 years (to 4th > > > grade) > > > > > and > > > > > > > only had 2 > > > > > > > > reactions. Then she went to another school where they > > > > didn't > > > > > > take > > > > > > > the issue > > > > > > > > as seriously and she would have to come home or go to > the > > > > > > hospital > > > > > > > 3 times a > > > > > > > > week, her grades suffered, her confidence suffered and > > she > > > > got > > > > > > > behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now she is in 8th grade and she has only had a few > > > reactions > > > > > > this > > > > > > > year, the > > > > > > > > only precaution she has is a peanut free lunch table > but, > > > > the > > > > > > > difference is > > > > > > > > that she can now read labels, she is old enough and > > mature > > > > > > enough > > > > > > > to take > > > > > > > > care of her allergy. The other saving grace is that > in > > > > Middle > > > > > > > school very > > > > > > > > few kids eat PB & J its just not " cool " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you know what... it really does take a village to > keep > > > > our > > > > > > kids > > > > > > > happy and > > > > > > > > healthy and I guess I've convinced myself that I do > > expect > > > > > help > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > understanding from others... I'd certainly do it for > > their > > > > > kids > > > > > > (in > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > daughters school there is a child with latex allergy > so > > > > severe > > > > > > that > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > entire school does not have ANY latex in it and I'm > happy > > > to > > > > > > abide > > > > > > > by that > > > > > > > > rule). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that your child has asthma and celiac, > > those > > > > are > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > different then an anaphylactic airborne peanut > allergy, I > > > > know > > > > > > > about them > > > > > > > > first hand too, my peanut girl has both! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 50 parents (one classroom) responsible for the > > > safety > > > > of > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 500 parents (entire school) responsible for the > > > safety > > > > > of > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the parent of a child with not only celiac but > also > > a > > > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > > > list of allergies and intolerances, I do not expect > > > other > > > > > > parents > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > be responsible for my child's safety. To date, he > has > > > not > > > > > had > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > analphylactic reactions, but I have already been > warned > > > by > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > allergist he is at risk for them, and he does have > > major > > > > > asthma > > > > > > > > > attacks from certain allergens. Dogs are a major > > trigger > > > > for > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > asthma *and people can die from asthma in a very few > > > > > minutes* > > > > > > *, > > > > > > > can I > > > > > > > > > ban dogs in all public places because of one > person's > > > > needs? > > > > > > He > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > reacts to " secondhand dog " on other people's > clothes, > > > can > > > > I > > > > > > insist > > > > > > > > > every child in class live in a dog-free home? No, > > > neither > > > > of > > > > > > > those is > > > > > > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Man, that is frustrating! Have you thought of getting a class list with all the kid's birthday's listed? Then you could have a general idea when a treat would be coming and you could contact that parent at the beginning of the week. I know that puts all the responsibility on you, but it seems like this group of parents won't oblige for whatever reason. This is just my suggestion since I also keep a list of the kid's birthdays on my peg board. If I don't get an email from the teacher about a birthday then I make the first move. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a parent of a child with airborne peanut reactions > and > > > > > > > anaphylactic > > > > > > > > reactions with any contact to peanuts.... no I don't > > > expect > > > > > the > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > classroom or the school to be " responsible " for my > > > daughters > > > > > > > allergy but I > > > > > > > > do expect them to take reasonable steps to protect my > > > child > > > > > from > > > > > > > dying, > > > > > > > > which is what the reaction could easily be with her > level > > > of > > > > > > > allergy. This > > > > > > > > was especially true when she was in elementary > school. > > As > > > a > > > > > > young > > > > > > > child she > > > > > > > > didn't have the skills enough to recognize situations > > > where > > > > > she > > > > > > was > > > > > > > at risk > > > > > > > > so at that age, yes I expected the school to take > steps > > to > > > > > keep > > > > > > her > > > > > > > safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very happy to report back then the principal of > her > > > > school > > > > > > > agreed with > > > > > > > > me and asked the parents in her classroom to > voluntarily > > > > not > > > > > > send > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > kids with peanut products. Every single parent > complied > > > > with > > > > > > this > > > > > > > request, > > > > > > > > every single year. The parents had my phone number > and > > > > would > > > > > > call > > > > > > > me about > > > > > > > > products they had at home. It worked out wonderfully > for > > > > us. > > > > > > Were > > > > > > > mistakes > > > > > > > > made (like with power/snack bars)? Maybe so but I'm > not > > > > aware > > > > > > of > > > > > > > any, every > > > > > > > > single parent was so nice about it, my daughter became > > > > > > everyone's > > > > > > > child and > > > > > > > > on field trips and such..... all the parents were > > > constantly > > > > > > > monitoring food > > > > > > > > and snacks around her (I did go on every field trip). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They decided not to ban peanuts in the entire school > but > > > > gave > > > > > my > > > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > > > separate lounge to eat her lunch in (she could pick 5 > > > > friends > > > > > a > > > > > > day > > > > > > > to eat > > > > > > > > there with her). Again the precautions that everyone > > took > > > > for > > > > > > us > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > worked... she was in that school for 5 years (to 4th > > > grade) > > > > > and > > > > > > > only had 2 > > > > > > > > reactions. Then she went to another school where they > > > > didn't > > > > > > take > > > > > > > the issue > > > > > > > > as seriously and she would have to come home or go to > the > > > > > > hospital > > > > > > > 3 times a > > > > > > > > week, her grades suffered, her confidence suffered and > > she > > > > got > > > > > > > behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now she is in 8th grade and she has only had a few > > > reactions > > > > > > this > > > > > > > year, the > > > > > > > > only precaution she has is a peanut free lunch table > but, > > > > the > > > > > > > difference is > > > > > > > > that she can now read labels, she is old enough and > > mature > > > > > > enough > > > > > > > to take > > > > > > > > care of her allergy. The other saving grace is that > in > > > > Middle > > > > > > > school very > > > > > > > > few kids eat PB & J its just not " cool " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you know what... it really does take a village to > keep > > > > our > > > > > > kids > > > > > > > happy and > > > > > > > > healthy and I guess I've convinced myself that I do > > expect > > > > > help > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > understanding from others... I'd certainly do it for > > their > > > > > kids > > > > > > (in > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > daughters school there is a child with latex allergy > so > > > > severe > > > > > > that > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > entire school does not have ANY latex in it and I'm > happy > > > to > > > > > > abide > > > > > > > by that > > > > > > > > rule). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that your child has asthma and celiac, > > those > > > > are > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > different then an anaphylactic airborne peanut > allergy, I > > > > know > > > > > > > about them > > > > > > > > first hand too, my peanut girl has both! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 50 parents (one classroom) responsible for the > > > safety > > > > of > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 500 parents (entire school) responsible for the > > > safety > > > > > of > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the parent of a child with not only celiac but > also > > a > > > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > > > list of allergies and intolerances, I do not expect > > > other > > > > > > parents > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > be responsible for my child's safety. To date, he > has > > > not > > > > > had > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > analphylactic reactions, but I have already been > warned > > > by > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > allergist he is at risk for them, and he does have > > major > > > > > asthma > > > > > > > > > attacks from certain allergens. Dogs are a major > > trigger > > > > for > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > asthma *and people can die from asthma in a very few > > > > > minutes* > > > > > > *, > > > > > > > can I > > > > > > > > > ban dogs in all public places because of one > person's > > > > needs? > > > > > > He > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > reacts to " secondhand dog " on other people's > clothes, > > > can > > > > I > > > > > > insist > > > > > > > > > every child in class live in a dog-free home? No, > > > neither > > > > of > > > > > > > those is > > > > > > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Man, that is frustrating! Have you thought of getting a class list with all the kid's birthday's listed? Then you could have a general idea when a treat would be coming and you could contact that parent at the beginning of the week. I know that puts all the responsibility on you, but it seems like this group of parents won't oblige for whatever reason. This is just my suggestion since I also keep a list of the kid's birthdays on my peg board. If I don't get an email from the teacher about a birthday then I make the first move. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a parent of a child with airborne peanut reactions > and > > > > > > > anaphylactic > > > > > > > > reactions with any contact to peanuts.... no I don't > > > expect > > > > > the > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > classroom or the school to be " responsible " for my > > > daughters > > > > > > > allergy but I > > > > > > > > do expect them to take reasonable steps to protect my > > > child > > > > > from > > > > > > > dying, > > > > > > > > which is what the reaction could easily be with her > level > > > of > > > > > > > allergy. This > > > > > > > > was especially true when she was in elementary > school. > > As > > > a > > > > > > young > > > > > > > child she > > > > > > > > didn't have the skills enough to recognize situations > > > where > > > > > she > > > > > > was > > > > > > > at risk > > > > > > > > so at that age, yes I expected the school to take > steps > > to > > > > > keep > > > > > > her > > > > > > > safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very happy to report back then the principal of > her > > > > school > > > > > > > agreed with > > > > > > > > me and asked the parents in her classroom to > voluntarily > > > > not > > > > > > send > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > kids with peanut products. Every single parent > complied > > > > with > > > > > > this > > > > > > > request, > > > > > > > > every single year. The parents had my phone number > and > > > > would > > > > > > call > > > > > > > me about > > > > > > > > products they had at home. It worked out wonderfully > for > > > > us. > > > > > > Were > > > > > > > mistakes > > > > > > > > made (like with power/snack bars)? Maybe so but I'm > not > > > > aware > > > > > > of > > > > > > > any, every > > > > > > > > single parent was so nice about it, my daughter became > > > > > > everyone's > > > > > > > child and > > > > > > > > on field trips and such..... all the parents were > > > constantly > > > > > > > monitoring food > > > > > > > > and snacks around her (I did go on every field trip). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They decided not to ban peanuts in the entire school > but > > > > gave > > > > > my > > > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > > > separate lounge to eat her lunch in (she could pick 5 > > > > friends > > > > > a > > > > > > day > > > > > > > to eat > > > > > > > > there with her). Again the precautions that everyone > > took > > > > for > > > > > > us > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > worked... she was in that school for 5 years (to 4th > > > grade) > > > > > and > > > > > > > only had 2 > > > > > > > > reactions. Then she went to another school where they > > > > didn't > > > > > > take > > > > > > > the issue > > > > > > > > as seriously and she would have to come home or go to > the > > > > > > hospital > > > > > > > 3 times a > > > > > > > > week, her grades suffered, her confidence suffered and > > she > > > > got > > > > > > > behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now she is in 8th grade and she has only had a few > > > reactions > > > > > > this > > > > > > > year, the > > > > > > > > only precaution she has is a peanut free lunch table > but, > > > > the > > > > > > > difference is > > > > > > > > that she can now read labels, she is old enough and > > mature > > > > > > enough > > > > > > > to take > > > > > > > > care of her allergy. The other saving grace is that > in > > > > Middle > > > > > > > school very > > > > > > > > few kids eat PB & J its just not " cool " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you know what... it really does take a village to > keep > > > > our > > > > > > kids > > > > > > > happy and > > > > > > > > healthy and I guess I've convinced myself that I do > > expect > > > > > help > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > understanding from others... I'd certainly do it for > > their > > > > > kids > > > > > > (in > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > daughters school there is a child with latex allergy > so > > > > severe > > > > > > that > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > entire school does not have ANY latex in it and I'm > happy > > > to > > > > > > abide > > > > > > > by that > > > > > > > > rule). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that your child has asthma and celiac, > > those > > > > are > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > different then an anaphylactic airborne peanut > allergy, I > > > > know > > > > > > > about them > > > > > > > > first hand too, my peanut girl has both! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 50 parents (one classroom) responsible for the > > > safety > > > > of > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are 500 parents (entire school) responsible for the > > > safety > > > > > of > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > else's child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the parent of a child with not only celiac but > also > > a > > > > > > > complicated > > > > > > > > > list of allergies and intolerances, I do not expect > > > other > > > > > > parents > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > be responsible for my child's safety. To date, he > has > > > not > > > > > had > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > analphylactic reactions, but I have already been > warned > > > by > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > allergist he is at risk for them, and he does have > > major > > > > > asthma > > > > > > > > > attacks from certain allergens. Dogs are a major > > trigger > > > > for > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > asthma *and people can die from asthma in a very few > > > > > minutes* > > > > > > *, > > > > > > > can I > > > > > > > > > ban dogs in all public places because of one > person's > > > > needs? > > > > > > He > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > reacts to " secondhand dog " on other people's > clothes, > > > can > > > > I > > > > > > insist > > > > > > > > > every child in class live in a dog-free home? No, > > > neither > > > > of > > > > > > > those is > > > > > > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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