Re: my hubbies test results

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>

> We finally got the doc to order the proper tests, but of coarse

> she said all was " normal " .

>

> Estrogen, serum 132 ( less then 130 )

> Vitamin B12 382 ( 200-1100 )

> Cortisol, A.M. 10.6 ( 4.0 22.0 cg/dl )

> Anti-thyroglobulin <20 ( 0-20 ) IU/ml

> Anti-TPO antibody <10.0 ( 0.0-35.0 )

> Cortisol, urine free 50.2 ( 4.0-50.0 )

>

> So with these results does anyone have any suggestions? I think

> he should see an endo, since she doesn't think anything is wrong.

> Problem is he needs a referral, is there anyone on this board that

> knows of a good one in Las Vegas? We need some advice as to which

> meds he should ask for provided he can get her to refer him.

> When I take his temp it is usually around 96 to 97.3, & his pulse

> is always really low, like 50's & 60's, ( as opposed to mine 80 to

110

> while laying down ).

>

These are the numbers that look off to me...it is not normal to have

any antibodies but it looks like hormones, androgens, testosterone,

estrogen should all be tested again..something is definitely going

on with the adrenals..and it could be from the sex hormones.

You may not have much luck with the thyroid numbers getting a

refferal to an Endo, but then again you may not have much luck

getting anywhere with an Endo with those numbers..

Now if you stop thinking thyroid and ask your doc why a male has

such high estrogen levels and what his testosterone levels are you

may find yourself shuffled off rather quickly to an Endo or

specialist..

Kats3boys

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>

> We finally got the doc to order the proper tests, but of coarse

> she said all was " normal " .

>

> Estrogen, serum 132 ( less then 130 )

> Vitamin B12 382 ( 200-1100 )

> Cortisol, A.M. 10.6 ( 4.0 22.0 cg/dl )

> Anti-thyroglobulin <20 ( 0-20 ) IU/ml

> Anti-TPO antibody <10.0 ( 0.0-35.0 )

> Cortisol, urine free 50.2 ( 4.0-50.0 )

>

> So with these results does anyone have any suggestions? I think

> he should see an endo, since she doesn't think anything is wrong.

> Problem is he needs a referral, is there anyone on this board that

> knows of a good one in Las Vegas? We need some advice as to which

> meds he should ask for provided he can get her to refer him.

> When I take his temp it is usually around 96 to 97.3, & his pulse

> is always really low, like 50's & 60's, ( as opposed to mine 80 to

110

> while laying down ).

>

These are the numbers that look off to me...it is not normal to have

any antibodies but it looks like hormones, androgens, testosterone,

estrogen should all be tested again..something is definitely going

on with the adrenals..and it could be from the sex hormones.

You may not have much luck with the thyroid numbers getting a

refferal to an Endo, but then again you may not have much luck

getting anywhere with an Endo with those numbers..

Now if you stop thinking thyroid and ask your doc why a male has

such high estrogen levels and what his testosterone levels are you

may find yourself shuffled off rather quickly to an Endo or

specialist..

Kats3boys

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I asked about the body temp once, asked a dr and they said that most people tend to run a little low. Is this really a big part of the thyroid then or no? Any ideas? SpiffCindy wrote: We finally got the doc to order the proper tests, but of coarse she said all was "normal".Estrogen, serum 132 ( less then 130 )iron 121 ( 40-160 )UIBC 166 ( 110 -370 )TIBC 287 ( 250-410 )Transferrin Sat % 42 ( 20-55 % )Ferritin 161 ( 20-380 )Vitamin B12 382 (

200-1100 )Cortisol, A.M. 10.6 ( 4.0 22.0 mcg/dl )T3, free 327 ( 230-420 )TSH ultra sensitive (F) 1.3 ( 0.40-5.50 )Free T4 1.1 ( 0.8-1.8 ng/dl )Anti-thyroglobulin <20 ( 0-20 ) IU/mlAnti-TPO antibody <10.0 ( 0.0-35.0 )Cortisol, urine free 50.2 ( 4.0-50.0 )So with these results does anyone have any suggestions? I think he should see an endo, since she doesn't think anything is wrong.Problem is he needs a referral, is there anyone on this board that knows of a good one in Las Vegas? We need some advice as to whichmeds he should ask for provided he can get her to refer him.When I take his temp it is usually around 96 to 97.3, & his pulse is always really low, like 50's & 60's, ( as opposed to mine 80 to 110 while laying down ).

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I asked about the body temp once, asked a dr and they said that most people tend to run a little low. Is this really a big part of the thyroid then or no? Any ideas? SpiffCindy wrote: We finally got the doc to order the proper tests, but of coarse she said all was "normal".Estrogen, serum 132 ( less then 130 )iron 121 ( 40-160 )UIBC 166 ( 110 -370 )TIBC 287 ( 250-410 )Transferrin Sat % 42 ( 20-55 % )Ferritin 161 ( 20-380 )Vitamin B12 382 (

200-1100 )Cortisol, A.M. 10.6 ( 4.0 22.0 mcg/dl )T3, free 327 ( 230-420 )TSH ultra sensitive (F) 1.3 ( 0.40-5.50 )Free T4 1.1 ( 0.8-1.8 ng/dl )Anti-thyroglobulin <20 ( 0-20 ) IU/mlAnti-TPO antibody <10.0 ( 0.0-35.0 )Cortisol, urine free 50.2 ( 4.0-50.0 )So with these results does anyone have any suggestions? I think he should see an endo, since she doesn't think anything is wrong.Problem is he needs a referral, is there anyone on this board that knows of a good one in Las Vegas? We need some advice as to whichmeds he should ask for provided he can get her to refer him.When I take his temp it is usually around 96 to 97.3, & his pulse is always really low, like 50's & 60's, ( as opposed to mine 80 to 110 while laying down ).

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I asked about the body temp once, asked a dr and they said that most people tend to run a little low. Is this really a big part of the thyroid then or no? Any ideas? SpiffCindy wrote: We finally got the doc to order the proper tests, but of coarse she said all was "normal".Estrogen, serum 132 ( less then 130 )iron 121 ( 40-160 )UIBC 166 ( 110 -370 )TIBC 287 ( 250-410 )Transferrin Sat % 42 ( 20-55 % )Ferritin 161 ( 20-380 )Vitamin B12 382 (

200-1100 )Cortisol, A.M. 10.6 ( 4.0 22.0 mcg/dl )T3, free 327 ( 230-420 )TSH ultra sensitive (F) 1.3 ( 0.40-5.50 )Free T4 1.1 ( 0.8-1.8 ng/dl )Anti-thyroglobulin <20 ( 0-20 ) IU/mlAnti-TPO antibody <10.0 ( 0.0-35.0 )Cortisol, urine free 50.2 ( 4.0-50.0 )So with these results does anyone have any suggestions? I think he should see an endo, since she doesn't think anything is wrong.Problem is he needs a referral, is there anyone on this board that knows of a good one in Las Vegas? We need some advice as to whichmeds he should ask for provided he can get her to refer him.When I take his temp it is usually around 96 to 97.3, & his pulse is always really low, like 50's & 60's, ( as opposed to mine 80 to 110 while laying down ).

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Normal body temp for all humans is 98.6 F, taken orally, not axillary (under the arm). It is normal for the body temp to go up around early evening or so, but some people's doesn't very much, even as high as 99. something. I really don't know where people get that the axillary temp should say 98.6 F, as with that particular reading, one degree should always be added, taken under the arm. When the temp is taken rectally (as we do with babies), one degree should always be subtracted. If you take your temp under your arm for 8 to 10 minutes (it can't go any higher than whatever it is after 10 minutes, even if you leave it there for an hour), and come up with 97.6 F, then you always add one degree for he actual body temp, which would be 98.6 F, internally. I personally think that it is recommended to hypos to take it under the arm because our outer skin temp seems to be more like reptilian status, lol, but these are the normal stats for taking body temp.

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I asked about the body temp once, asked a dr and they said that most people tend to run a little low. Is this really a big part of the thyroid then or no? Any ideas?

Spiff

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That makes sense, but I've noticed alot of people on here talking about running about 96 degrees or so, and the dr that I talked to said alot of people usually run about a few degrees under 98. I was wondering why people mention it so much on here if it's a "normal" thing. Am I just weird? Am wondering... Spiff wrote: Normal body temp for all humans is 98.6 F, taken orally, not axillary (under the arm). It is normal for the body temp to go up

around early evening or so, but some people's doesn't very much, even as high as 99. something. I really don't know where people get that the axillary temp should say 98.6 F, as with that particular reading, one degree should always be added, taken under the arm. When the temp is taken rectally (as we do with babies), one degree should always be subtracted. If you take your temp under your arm for 8 to 10 minutes (it can't go any higher than whatever it is after 10 minutes, even if you leave it there for an hour), and come up with 97.6 F, then you always add one degree for he actual body temp, which would be 98.6 F, internally. I personally think that it is recommended to hypos to take it under the arm because our outer skin temp seems to be more like reptilian status, lol, but these are the normal stats for taking body temp. Re: my hubbies test results I asked about the body temp once, asked a dr and they said that most people tend to run a little low. Is this really a big part of the thyroid then or no? Any ideas? Spiff

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If an axillary temp of 96, then add one degree, that's 97, so that's too low. But people who have come up with 97.6 to 98 degrees, thinking this is too low, it is not, because you add that degree to it, axillary. Taken orally, around 20 minutes or so after eating or drinking, then it is exactly what it says. I don't know why they say it.

Re: my hubbies test results

That makes sense, but I've noticed alot of people on here talking about running about 96 degrees or so, and the dr that I talked to said alot of people usually run about a few degrees under 98. I was wondering why people mention it so much on here if it's a "normal" thing. Am I just weird? Am wondering...

Spiff

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If an axillary temp of 96, then add one degree, that's 97, so that's too low. But people who have come up with 97.6 to 98 degrees, thinking this is too low, it is not, because you add that degree to it, axillary. Taken orally, around 20 minutes or so after eating or drinking, then it is exactly what it says. I don't know why they say it.

Re: my hubbies test results

That makes sense, but I've noticed alot of people on here talking about running about 96 degrees or so, and the dr that I talked to said alot of people usually run about a few degrees under 98. I was wondering why people mention it so much on here if it's a "normal" thing. Am I just weird? Am wondering...

Spiff

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If an axillary temp of 96, then add one degree, that's 97, so that's too low. But people who have come up with 97.6 to 98 degrees, thinking this is too low, it is not, because you add that degree to it, axillary. Taken orally, around 20 minutes or so after eating or drinking, then it is exactly what it says. I don't know why they say it.

Re: my hubbies test results

That makes sense, but I've noticed alot of people on here talking about running about 96 degrees or so, and the dr that I talked to said alot of people usually run about a few degrees under 98. I was wondering why people mention it so much on here if it's a "normal" thing. Am I just weird? Am wondering...

Spiff

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Because it's not a normal thing for our species.... it's just becoming more common... just because it's becoming more common, to me, does not mean that it's normal... To ME it means that there are more and more folks that are showing the beginnings of complications resulting from our poor quality of food source and water supplies... Here I'm rolling back around to my personal gripes about fluoridated water (a chemical hazardous waste by product that is being sold to municipalities cuz it strengthens tooth enamel with no concern to it's carcinogenic or anti thyroid side effects), and the food additives like soy by products and high fructose corn syrup.... all things that affect how the thyroid (and metabolic rate) functions.

Now add to that they are irradiating our food with the water misters for produce and the antibacterial treatment used on meats..... Our species will be dying out in the 'modernized' areas on the planet....

sigh... end of soap boxing for today.... I hope..... (for me anyway.....)

Oh, gosh... it's becoming more common for folks in the US to be obese, over 30 percent body fat... does that mean that's okay now too? No... that's an epidemic that must be fought with more drugs (money for big pharma and the multi- billion dollar diet industry )... okay.. now I'll be quiet.... shhhhhh Topper..... shhhhhhh

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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:48:31 -0700 (PDT) DerSpiff writes:

That makes sense, but I've noticed alot of people on here talking about running about 96 degrees or so, and the dr that I talked to said alot of people usually run about a few degrees under 98. I was wondering why people mention it so much on here if it's a "normal" thing. Am I just weird? Am wondering...

Spiff

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Right on Topper. I remember 30 years ago when I was trying to get pregnant, I was taking my temps every day to watch for ovulation and they were always normal when they were supposed to be. I only realized a few months ago when I started reading about it that mine had dropped into the 96's. No wonder I'm freezing all winter long. I buy -40 boots but my feet still ache. No technology can hold in body heat that doesn't exist. I'm about to enter my first 'Armour Winter' and I have great hopes... Judy

Because it's not a normal thing for our species.... it's just becoming more common... just because it's becoming more common, to me, does not mean that it's normal...

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GOOD attitude Spiff plus, a third eye’s not so bad either

sue

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Ain't goin there...........ROFL!! SpiffJustYourTypeDTP wrote: On 10/17/06 3:56 PM, "DerSpiff" <mzspiff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: depends on where it's

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Ain't goin there...........ROFL!! SpiffJustYourTypeDTP wrote: On 10/17/06 3:56 PM, "DerSpiff" <mzspiff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: depends on where it's

at......ROFL!! SpiffI only know of one place ... And YOU??? LOL!!!!!!sueJustYourTypeDTP <justyourtypedtp (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: GOOD attitude Spiff plus, a third eye’s not so bad either :)sueOn 10/17/06 1:56 PM, "DerSpiff" <mzspiff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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