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Hollie,

Our Ian's hearing loss probably started around this age, but we had no idea

it was happening. What we did know was that we had an incredibly shy little

guy. So, I signed him up for nursery school for two afternoons a week. We had

done the Mommy & Me style once-a-week program the year before and he had really

enjoyed liked that. So, while I knew that tossing him into the social

setting of nursery school would be hard at first, I knew he'd be just fine after

a

few days. He was.

He was comfortable in small play groups, which is how they intentionally had

set up the rooms and play areas. And when it was playground time, he'd join

smaller groups on the outskirts of the chaos. After a very short time, he had

his own little group of somewhat shy friends and they'd seek each other out

and play together in that big, loud, chaotic playground setting.

I'm thrilled I signed him up. Those two days were just enough for him at

that age. I would also set up play dates with his new friends on the other

days.

Sometimes it was just one or two friends at one of our homes and sometimes

we'd meet a whole group of people at the park.

When Ian was 4, he moved up into the 4-year-old class (pre-K) and had

classes 3 days a week in the mornings. Again, he did well. This was also the

time

when we were working on his " being brave " and overcoming some of the shyness

and clinging to me.

This was a regular nursery school, not an EI or D/HOH program. There was one

other boy there whose hearing loss was identified at that time. The boys

were friends before either one's loss was identified and have been friends ever

since. They are also the only D/HOH kid their age that either one knows in

this area.

Hope this helps -- Jill

In a message dated 2/1/2006 3:11:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

hutchings2@... writes:

Did any of you do that, and did you put them in a normal preschool or did

you chose to put them in one for kids with disabilites. I need some help

here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help need

some stories here. please

Hollie Hutchings

Posted

Hollie, I don't know your situation: how much does your son hear, how does

he communicate, how comfortable are you with giving him language at home. So

I'll tell you what I did, but don't feel like you have to go that way!

My son has a severe to profound loss, he's oral, and at 3 we put him in the

local hearing/speech/language preschool. It was a program for 3-year-olds

who had one of those issues, and only those issues (no other disabilities).

He went four mornings a week; they did language-rich activities, he received

speech and auditory therapy, and he played with other deaf/HOH kids. I'm a

stay-at-home mom too, and honestly, I was thrilled to have a little time

off.

I do know other moms who keep their kids home and do a lot of

language-enriching activities on their own, and you could certainly do that.

But is your therapist suggesting school because she feels your son isn't

progressing quickly enough? Or that he needs more intensive instruction? Or

that he would benefit from being around other kids? That should help you

figure out what kind of program, if any, is appropriate for your son.

Hope that helps!

Stefanie

Mom to Ben, 7, severe/profound HOH, and Isabella, 10, mild loss

on 2/1/06 3:06 PM, hutchings2@... at hutchings2@... wrote:

> I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I

> should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and

> did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for

> kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys

> a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please

>

> Hollie Hutchings

>

Posted

My girls (both bi-lat mild/mod SNHL) turn 3 at end of this month, and are

scheduled to attend the same type of preschool described (a central

county preschool for hearing impaired children). If children have hearing loss

AND other issues, my understanding is they go to the early ed preschool in their

local district, since the 'other' issues trump the hearing loss. Not sure I buy

that, but that's how it's handled here. The hearing-impaired preschool is 5

days/week, from 9-1:30. Add a 1/2 hour commute each way, and it makes for a

very long day for little 3 year olds. But, the class ratio is 4:1 teacher + FT

aid, so I can't beat that kind of specific attention at any other school. My

girls are on target with language, so we expect they will attend this special

school for a year, then mainstream into reg. 4 yo preschool.

Having triplets, I feel my kids get exposure to the base concepts (sharing,

kindness, turn taking, etc.) and they all attend two 3-hr mornings/wk of Moms

Morning Out program. Still, I like the idea that the girls will go to a special

school that can address their issue FT for the entire day's session.

Edith

mom to Lidy, Mimi and Owen (soon to be three on Feb 27)

Re: 3yr old in school

Hollie, I don't know your situation: how much does your son hear, how does

he communicate, how comfortable are you with giving him language at home. So

I'll tell you what I did, but don't feel like you have to go that way!

My son has a severe to profound loss, he's oral, and at 3 we put him in the

local hearing/speech/language preschool. It was a program for 3-year-olds

who had one of those issues, and only those issues (no other disabilities).

He went four mornings a week; they did language-rich activities, he received

speech and auditory therapy, and he played with other deaf/HOH kids. I'm a

stay-at-home mom too, and honestly, I was thrilled to have a little time

off.

I do know other moms who keep their kids home and do a lot of

language-enriching activities on their own, and you could certainly do that.

But is your therapist suggesting school because she feels your son isn't

progressing quickly enough? Or that he needs more intensive instruction? Or

that he would benefit from being around other kids? That should help you

figure out what kind of program, if any, is appropriate for your son.

Hope that helps!

Stefanie

Mom to Ben, 7, severe/profound HOH, and Isabella, 10, mild loss

on 2/1/06 3:06 PM, hutchings2@... at hutchings2@... wrote:

> I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I

> should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that,

and

> did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one

for

> kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a

5dys

> a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please

>

> Hollie Hutchings

>

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Posted

> He has a profound hearing loss in both ears. He is oral i would love a little

time off. My problem not really a problem but anyway is that the 3yrs program

offer at our local school is for any disability and it is 5dys a week 8:30 -

2:30 I just thing that is a long time for a 3yr old to be in class. I do have

the option of putting him in a private school (costly). He is doing well with

his speach I think she wants him to go more for the interaction with other kids.

>

> Date: 2006/02/01 Wed PM 03:33:47 EST

> To: <Listen-Up >

> Subject: Re: 3yr old in school

>

>

Hollie Hutchings

Posted

Hollie, is there another program you can put him in that allows him to

interact with other kids and gives you a little time off, without so many

hours? I like the 2x/wk Moms Morning Out idea, or a local nursery program

2-3x/wk. When my daughter was 3 and 4, I put her in two half-days, and that

worked just fine.

Does your town offer a preschool program (presumably cheaper than private)?

Or do you have a town rec center, with programs for young children? You can

always try swapping with another stay at home mom, with each of you taking

the kids one morning a week. I know, it means you get 2 kids (!), but it

might be a cheaper alternative that allows him kid interaction.

Anyway, those are some thoughts...

Stefanie

on 2/1/06 4:52 PM, hutchings2@... at hutchings2@... wrote:

>

>> He has a profound hearing loss in both ears. He is oral i would love a

>> little time off. My problem not really a problem but anyway is that the 3yrs

>> program offer at our local school is for any disability and it is 5dys a week

>> 8:30 - 2:30 I just thing that is a long time for a 3yr old to be in class. I

>> do have the option of putting him in a private school (costly). He is doing

>> well with his speach I think she wants him to go more for the interaction

>> with other kids.

>>

>> Date: 2006/02/01 Wed PM 03:33:47 EST

>> To: <Listen-Up >

>> Subject: Re: 3yr old in school

>>

>>

>

> Hollie Hutchings

>

Posted

Hi Hollie,

Good luck with choosing what is right for you. Remember that you can start

them in the local school preschool program and if that doesn't work, then

you can pull him out. I am a stay at home mom as well and I got the same

advice about putting my son in a preschool program. Here is what we did.

Just a little background. I have 4 year old twins. My son is oral and has

moderate snhl and has no other issues. My daughter has normal hearing. We

put both children into a private mothers day out program one day a week when

they were two. The class was 9:30 to 2:30, but included a nap. They had a

great time, but my son was very quiet, reserved, and kept mostly to himself.

At age three my son began attending a local school PPCD program (preschool

program for children with disabilities). It did include children with a

variety of disabilities. His class size was small, he used an fm system,

and attended from 8 - 11 five days a week. He really started to thrive in

this environment. His language skills took off. He was receiving an hour

of speech services and an hour of TOD services each week. He also started

to be more outgoing and spoke more since his sister wasn't there to advocate

for him. Near the end of the year, we modified his IEP so that half of his

day was spent mainstreamed with the head start program. This year, he is

doing great as well. He is still in the program and now attends from 8 - 12

with half day in PPCD and half day mainstreamed. We have been very happy

with the program, but if it hadn't worked out I would not have hesitated to

pull him out and find something else.

Best of luck,

3yr old in school

I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I

should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that,

and did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in

one for kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them

in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please

Hollie Hutchings

Posted

Hollie,

This sounds a bit like what we heard from 's SLP at this age. 's

hearing loss wasn't discovered until he was in kindergarten, but he has

received services from our school district for his language issues

(receptive/expressive delays, most likely due to the hearing loss) since the

age of 2. His SLP was concerned that he needed to get a jump start on

learning to socialize with other children in a classroom setting, which is

why we agreed to go with the preschool program.

8:30 to 2:30 does sound like a long day - can you ask to observe a day, or

to get an idea of what the general schedule for the week (on a daily basis)

would be? You'd be amazed at how much of that time is spent as " free time "

- the children are working, but to them, it's play time. And, generally, if

the day is that long, a nap time (or at least a rest time) should be built

in.

For what it's worth - 's schedule was to go from 8:45 to 11:45 three

days a week (no class on Wednesdays) when he was 3 - but we upped that to a

full four days a week when he was 4. When he was 3, he would go to daycare

in the morning, ride the school van to preschool from there, come back to

daycare, and then he would participate in the daycare's preschool activities

in the afternoon. When he was 4, he would go to our Montessori preschool in

the morning, go to a friend's house for lunch, and then go to the EIP

preschool in the afternoon. It was a little bit of an adjustment, but he

held up just fine.

One thing you may want to ask is if it is *required* that your son attend

all five days a week. Most of the people I've encountered were able to work

out " part-time " schedules with our school district if the full week schedule

was just too much for their little guys/girls to handle.

Good luck.

Kris

Mom to (Profound SNL, Left Ear) and Ethan

_____

From: Listen-Up [mailto:Listen-Up ] On Behalf

Of hutchings2@...

Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:53 PM

To: Listen-Up

Subject: Re: Re: 3yr old in school

> He has a profound hearing loss in both ears. He is oral i would love a

little time off. My problem not really a problem but anyway is that the

3yrs program offer at our local school is for any disability and it is 5dys

a week 8:30 - 2:30 I just thing that is a long time for a 3yr old to be in

class. I do have the option of putting him in a private school (costly).

He is doing well with his speach I think she wants him to go more for the

interaction with other kids.

>

> Date: 2006/02/01 Wed PM 03:33:47 EST

> To: <Listen-Up >

> Subject: Re: 3yr old in school

>

>

Posted

Our daughter was almost 4 years old at diagnosis, mod-severe bilat, language

delayed. We weren't planning to send her to preschool because I was a stay at

home mom at the time, and her behavior was so bad I couldn't imagine her in a

school situation. (she did go to sunday school and one half day of Mother's

Morning Out but often got in trouble!) From April to August she was amplified

prior to 4K and the change was dramatic, both increase in language and much

better behavior. We did AVT and they recommend mainstream for all activities.

Maggie went to 4K at our church's preschool, class of 12 with teacher and aid,

went from 8:30 to 12. No FM but great acoustics and a good year. Next year she

did 5K -at a different church. It was a class that a lot of people sent kids

with late birthdays to. Had lots of boys! Class was 16 and had a teacher and an

aide. No FM, and not much academic happened. Half day. Finally she did 5K at

" real " school at the age of 6. Half day and we used a soundfield. She really

blossomed with the soundfield. She actually learned to read using phonics. We

got some help with the phonics from our AVT and from Kay (at ListenUp). AVT

always recommends mainstream so kids can learn language from other kids. And

how to interact with other kids. The offerings in our public school were a mixed

disabilities class or a sign based Deaf/HOH class. Neither one had good

language or behavior models. We did testing at the oral school in Atlanta and

they put her in one of their reverse mainstream classes for a day and observed

her. They have a handful of kids with hearing loss in each class, and have the

majority of typically hearing kids. It is so well known for being such a

supportive school and great language driven program that people with hearing

kids fight to get their kids into it! I could have seen Maggie in that sort of

class but it would have been a 200 mile per day commute so that was impossible.

That's our story. in GA

3yr old in school

>

>I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I

should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and

did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for

kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a

week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please

>

>Hollie Hutchings

>

>

>

>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is

the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright

restrictions.

>

Posted

Hollie,

I don't feel like you can go wrong with putting your 3 year old in a preschool

program. If it becomes too much for him, you can always take a day off each

week or work something out to give him a break.

In our case, we didn't find out that our daughter had a mod-sev hearing

impairment until she was 2 years, 7 months. I was working full time and didn't

see a way out of that. We hired a SLP to see her three times a week, but saw no

improvement. So we did put her in a private oral deaf school, right after her

3rd birthday, 5 days a week, 9am - 2pm. She started there with hardly any

language and we couldn't get her to wear her hearing aids consistently. The

first day of school she saw all the other kids in her class (5 kids, if I

remember correctly) all wearing something on their ears. So we never had a

problem with aids after that. By the end of that school year (7 weeks later)

she could count to 5, could identify and say all the colors and shapes...and

recited this in front of a crowd at the end of the school year program (she was

extremely shy). Talk about making a mom cry. I did quit my job the following

year, but even then I kept her at that school, but I just spent more time at the

school (with my hearing 2 year old - who gained a lot of language from the

experience). It is really such a short time frame for our children before they

start school (kindergarten) and their hearing peers are soaking in language

incidentally, while our HI children have to be " taught " language and concepts.

My daughter is now 7 3/4 and I can't believe how time has flown. She is doing

well, but I always have to be watching to make sure she doesn't fall behind.

Good luck with your decision.

Robin

-------------- Original message --------------

I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I

should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and

did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for

kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a

week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please

Hollie Hutchings

All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the

intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright

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Posted

I am curious about this as well. I have a one year old and am trying to

plan ahead. We are currently going to put the hearing four year old in

preschool three days a week so that I can have three mornings a week to

work with the one year old in the fall and spring.

in Manassas, VA

> I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I

should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and

did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for

kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a

week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please

>

> Hollie Hutchings

>

>

>

> All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is

the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright

restrictions.

>

Posted

>did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them

in >one for kids with disabilites. >

> Hollie Hutchings

Hollie - My son is turning 2 tomorrow!!! And I've been toying

with the idea of sending him to a preschool stating in September as

well.

I want him in a local preschool, so he can make friends with kids in

the community, and I also want him in the BOCES program (a NY state

funded preschool program for hearing impaired children)so he can

focus on listening skills as well as typical preschool skills (ie:

sharing, colors, etc...)

So this is what we've decided on. He'll go to the local preschool

(which is part of a yeshiva, so he'll learn about all things Jewish

as well)on Tuesday's and Thursday's (8:45 - 12) and then to the BOCES

preschool Friday's and one other day either Monday or Wednesday for

about an hour and a half.

I think this will work out well for him. He is definately ready to

be in a group and he will really enjoy interacting with kids his own

age.

Every child is different - you know your child best. This is just to

let you know what we are doing - hope it helps.....

- mom of -

Miri - 7 - hearing

Abigail - 4 1/2 - hearing

- 2 tomorrow - mild/moderate SNHL

Posted

Thanks for the ideas. I think he would like it he enjoys playing with others

kids, he has a 5yr old sister. I just can't seem to find a school for three

year olds unles it cost lots of money or is for kids with all disabilites. He

is doing great as far as his speech is concern. As far as playing with other

kids his does not have a problem. My mom watches as couple of kids his age and

he loves to go there and play. Do you think it made a big difference as far as

where your kids are in their hearing and speech abilites.

Hollie Hutchings

mom of maddie 5yr (normal hearing)

Braydon 2 1/2 yr (profound loss, right ear implant @1yrs, left ear implanted @

2yrs)

>

> Date: 2006/02/02 Thu AM 09:48:08 EST

> To: Listen-Up

> Subject: Re: 3yr old in school

>

>

Posted

Hi Hollie,

I too consider myself a stay at home mom. received ST at

home until she was 3yr. Because it was through EI, services ended on

her third birthday. We had a couple of different choices. One was to

send her to the local preschool. I had registered and signed her up

for that class which would have been 2 days a week. We then attended

our transistion meeting and was given the option of sending her to the

school's preschool program which was 2 1/2 hours a day for five days

in a neighboring district about 15 minutes away. It was a cross-

catagorical class, but most of the kids were there for speech or PT/OT

issues. They also had " normal " children who attended the school as

speech models. After visiting the school's program we chose to send

her there. was definately ready to go to school. She loved

(and still loves) being with other children. Another consideration

for us was that her brother was due a month before school started and

my time to spend with working on things would be limited. She

received the services of a ST and a HI and was in a language rich

classroom. When started school, we had only known about her

hearing loss for 9 months, so she had a LOT to catch up on. It was a

choice that worked well for and the only regret that I have is

that we were unable to continue her schooling in that district.

Her brother however would not survive a 5 day school week. He

currently is attending a local Luthern preschool 2 days a week 2 1/2

hours and enjoys it. Although is hearing, he does have some

speech issues that are addressed by the districts ST. We were not

orginialy going to send to preschool but realized that he

needed to get use to being in social situations and needed to learn to

listen to other adults. The two days a week in a structured

environment has been so good for him.

If you can visit some of the classes that are around you, you may get

a better feel if it's something that he may enjoy and thrive in.

Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

>

> I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session

that I should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you

do that, and did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose

to put them in one for kids with disabilites. I need some help here.

Also did you put them in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help

need some stories here. please

>

> Hollie Hutchings

Posted

> We're also in NY and I just want to clarify about BOCES because it

can be a

> wonderful resource for your child all through school.

Thanks for the detailed expalnation - you said it much better than I

ever could!

Posted

Hi Hollie. My daughter is now 8, bi-lateral loss and wears BTE aids.

I investigated many area schools and found one that was language rich

and supportive of kids with special needs. We enrolled her in a

mainstream 3 year old program 3 1/2 days/week. I then took her 2 1/2

days to a program for hearing impaired or speech delayed kids--turns

out she was the only child with a hearing loss. The program was

language rich and lots of fun. She did really well in both programs

and gained speech and social skills. Good luck.

>

> I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session

that I should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you

do that, and did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose

to put them in one for kids with disabilites. I need some help here.

Also did you put them in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help

need some stories here. please

>

> Hollie Hutchings

>

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