Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Posted February 1, 2006 Hollie, Our Ian's hearing loss probably started around this age, but we had no idea it was happening. What we did know was that we had an incredibly shy little guy. So, I signed him up for nursery school for two afternoons a week. We had done the Mommy & Me style once-a-week program the year before and he had really enjoyed liked that. So, while I knew that tossing him into the social setting of nursery school would be hard at first, I knew he'd be just fine after a few days. He was. He was comfortable in small play groups, which is how they intentionally had set up the rooms and play areas. And when it was playground time, he'd join smaller groups on the outskirts of the chaos. After a very short time, he had his own little group of somewhat shy friends and they'd seek each other out and play together in that big, loud, chaotic playground setting. I'm thrilled I signed him up. Those two days were just enough for him at that age. I would also set up play dates with his new friends on the other days. Sometimes it was just one or two friends at one of our homes and sometimes we'd meet a whole group of people at the park. When Ian was 4, he moved up into the 4-year-old class (pre-K) and had classes 3 days a week in the mornings. Again, he did well. This was also the time when we were working on his " being brave " and overcoming some of the shyness and clinging to me. This was a regular nursery school, not an EI or D/HOH program. There was one other boy there whose hearing loss was identified at that time. The boys were friends before either one's loss was identified and have been friends ever since. They are also the only D/HOH kid their age that either one knows in this area. Hope this helps -- Jill In a message dated 2/1/2006 3:11:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hutchings2@... writes: Did any of you do that, and did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please Hollie Hutchings Quote
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Posted February 1, 2006 Hollie, I don't know your situation: how much does your son hear, how does he communicate, how comfortable are you with giving him language at home. So I'll tell you what I did, but don't feel like you have to go that way! My son has a severe to profound loss, he's oral, and at 3 we put him in the local hearing/speech/language preschool. It was a program for 3-year-olds who had one of those issues, and only those issues (no other disabilities). He went four mornings a week; they did language-rich activities, he received speech and auditory therapy, and he played with other deaf/HOH kids. I'm a stay-at-home mom too, and honestly, I was thrilled to have a little time off. I do know other moms who keep their kids home and do a lot of language-enriching activities on their own, and you could certainly do that. But is your therapist suggesting school because she feels your son isn't progressing quickly enough? Or that he needs more intensive instruction? Or that he would benefit from being around other kids? That should help you figure out what kind of program, if any, is appropriate for your son. Hope that helps! Stefanie Mom to Ben, 7, severe/profound HOH, and Isabella, 10, mild loss on 2/1/06 3:06 PM, hutchings2@... at hutchings2@... wrote: > I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I > should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and > did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for > kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys > a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please > > Hollie Hutchings > Quote
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Posted February 1, 2006 My girls (both bi-lat mild/mod SNHL) turn 3 at end of this month, and are scheduled to attend the same type of preschool described (a central county preschool for hearing impaired children). If children have hearing loss AND other issues, my understanding is they go to the early ed preschool in their local district, since the 'other' issues trump the hearing loss. Not sure I buy that, but that's how it's handled here. The hearing-impaired preschool is 5 days/week, from 9-1:30. Add a 1/2 hour commute each way, and it makes for a very long day for little 3 year olds. But, the class ratio is 4:1 teacher + FT aid, so I can't beat that kind of specific attention at any other school. My girls are on target with language, so we expect they will attend this special school for a year, then mainstream into reg. 4 yo preschool. Having triplets, I feel my kids get exposure to the base concepts (sharing, kindness, turn taking, etc.) and they all attend two 3-hr mornings/wk of Moms Morning Out program. Still, I like the idea that the girls will go to a special school that can address their issue FT for the entire day's session. Edith mom to Lidy, Mimi and Owen (soon to be three on Feb 27) Re: 3yr old in school Hollie, I don't know your situation: how much does your son hear, how does he communicate, how comfortable are you with giving him language at home. So I'll tell you what I did, but don't feel like you have to go that way! My son has a severe to profound loss, he's oral, and at 3 we put him in the local hearing/speech/language preschool. It was a program for 3-year-olds who had one of those issues, and only those issues (no other disabilities). He went four mornings a week; they did language-rich activities, he received speech and auditory therapy, and he played with other deaf/HOH kids. I'm a stay-at-home mom too, and honestly, I was thrilled to have a little time off. I do know other moms who keep their kids home and do a lot of language-enriching activities on their own, and you could certainly do that. But is your therapist suggesting school because she feels your son isn't progressing quickly enough? Or that he needs more intensive instruction? Or that he would benefit from being around other kids? That should help you figure out what kind of program, if any, is appropriate for your son. Hope that helps! Stefanie Mom to Ben, 7, severe/profound HOH, and Isabella, 10, mild loss on 2/1/06 3:06 PM, hutchings2@... at hutchings2@... wrote: > I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I > should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and > did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for > kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys > a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please > > Hollie Hutchings > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Posted February 1, 2006 > He has a profound hearing loss in both ears. He is oral i would love a little time off. My problem not really a problem but anyway is that the 3yrs program offer at our local school is for any disability and it is 5dys a week 8:30 - 2:30 I just thing that is a long time for a 3yr old to be in class. I do have the option of putting him in a private school (costly). He is doing well with his speach I think she wants him to go more for the interaction with other kids. > > Date: 2006/02/01 Wed PM 03:33:47 EST > To: <Listen-Up > > Subject: Re: 3yr old in school > > Hollie Hutchings Quote
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Posted February 1, 2006 Hollie, is there another program you can put him in that allows him to interact with other kids and gives you a little time off, without so many hours? I like the 2x/wk Moms Morning Out idea, or a local nursery program 2-3x/wk. When my daughter was 3 and 4, I put her in two half-days, and that worked just fine. Does your town offer a preschool program (presumably cheaper than private)? Or do you have a town rec center, with programs for young children? You can always try swapping with another stay at home mom, with each of you taking the kids one morning a week. I know, it means you get 2 kids (!), but it might be a cheaper alternative that allows him kid interaction. Anyway, those are some thoughts... Stefanie on 2/1/06 4:52 PM, hutchings2@... at hutchings2@... wrote: > >> He has a profound hearing loss in both ears. He is oral i would love a >> little time off. My problem not really a problem but anyway is that the 3yrs >> program offer at our local school is for any disability and it is 5dys a week >> 8:30 - 2:30 I just thing that is a long time for a 3yr old to be in class. I >> do have the option of putting him in a private school (costly). He is doing >> well with his speach I think she wants him to go more for the interaction >> with other kids. >> >> Date: 2006/02/01 Wed PM 03:33:47 EST >> To: <Listen-Up > >> Subject: Re: 3yr old in school >> >> > > Hollie Hutchings > Quote
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Posted February 1, 2006 Hi Hollie, Good luck with choosing what is right for you. Remember that you can start them in the local school preschool program and if that doesn't work, then you can pull him out. I am a stay at home mom as well and I got the same advice about putting my son in a preschool program. Here is what we did. Just a little background. I have 4 year old twins. My son is oral and has moderate snhl and has no other issues. My daughter has normal hearing. We put both children into a private mothers day out program one day a week when they were two. The class was 9:30 to 2:30, but included a nap. They had a great time, but my son was very quiet, reserved, and kept mostly to himself. At age three my son began attending a local school PPCD program (preschool program for children with disabilities). It did include children with a variety of disabilities. His class size was small, he used an fm system, and attended from 8 - 11 five days a week. He really started to thrive in this environment. His language skills took off. He was receiving an hour of speech services and an hour of TOD services each week. He also started to be more outgoing and spoke more since his sister wasn't there to advocate for him. Near the end of the year, we modified his IEP so that half of his day was spent mainstreamed with the head start program. This year, he is doing great as well. He is still in the program and now attends from 8 - 12 with half day in PPCD and half day mainstreamed. We have been very happy with the program, but if it hadn't worked out I would not have hesitated to pull him out and find something else. Best of luck, 3yr old in school I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please Hollie Hutchings Quote
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Posted February 1, 2006 Hollie, This sounds a bit like what we heard from 's SLP at this age. 's hearing loss wasn't discovered until he was in kindergarten, but he has received services from our school district for his language issues (receptive/expressive delays, most likely due to the hearing loss) since the age of 2. His SLP was concerned that he needed to get a jump start on learning to socialize with other children in a classroom setting, which is why we agreed to go with the preschool program. 8:30 to 2:30 does sound like a long day - can you ask to observe a day, or to get an idea of what the general schedule for the week (on a daily basis) would be? You'd be amazed at how much of that time is spent as " free time " - the children are working, but to them, it's play time. And, generally, if the day is that long, a nap time (or at least a rest time) should be built in. For what it's worth - 's schedule was to go from 8:45 to 11:45 three days a week (no class on Wednesdays) when he was 3 - but we upped that to a full four days a week when he was 4. When he was 3, he would go to daycare in the morning, ride the school van to preschool from there, come back to daycare, and then he would participate in the daycare's preschool activities in the afternoon. When he was 4, he would go to our Montessori preschool in the morning, go to a friend's house for lunch, and then go to the EIP preschool in the afternoon. It was a little bit of an adjustment, but he held up just fine. One thing you may want to ask is if it is *required* that your son attend all five days a week. Most of the people I've encountered were able to work out " part-time " schedules with our school district if the full week schedule was just too much for their little guys/girls to handle. Good luck. Kris Mom to (Profound SNL, Left Ear) and Ethan _____ From: Listen-Up [mailto:Listen-Up ] On Behalf Of hutchings2@... Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:53 PM To: Listen-Up Subject: Re: Re: 3yr old in school > He has a profound hearing loss in both ears. He is oral i would love a little time off. My problem not really a problem but anyway is that the 3yrs program offer at our local school is for any disability and it is 5dys a week 8:30 - 2:30 I just thing that is a long time for a 3yr old to be in class. I do have the option of putting him in a private school (costly). He is doing well with his speach I think she wants him to go more for the interaction with other kids. > > Date: 2006/02/01 Wed PM 03:33:47 EST > To: <Listen-Up > > Subject: Re: 3yr old in school > > Quote
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Posted February 1, 2006 Our daughter was almost 4 years old at diagnosis, mod-severe bilat, language delayed. We weren't planning to send her to preschool because I was a stay at home mom at the time, and her behavior was so bad I couldn't imagine her in a school situation. (she did go to sunday school and one half day of Mother's Morning Out but often got in trouble!) From April to August she was amplified prior to 4K and the change was dramatic, both increase in language and much better behavior. We did AVT and they recommend mainstream for all activities. Maggie went to 4K at our church's preschool, class of 12 with teacher and aid, went from 8:30 to 12. No FM but great acoustics and a good year. Next year she did 5K -at a different church. It was a class that a lot of people sent kids with late birthdays to. Had lots of boys! Class was 16 and had a teacher and an aide. No FM, and not much academic happened. Half day. Finally she did 5K at " real " school at the age of 6. Half day and we used a soundfield. She really blossomed with the soundfield. She actually learned to read using phonics. We got some help with the phonics from our AVT and from Kay (at ListenUp). AVT always recommends mainstream so kids can learn language from other kids. And how to interact with other kids. The offerings in our public school were a mixed disabilities class or a sign based Deaf/HOH class. Neither one had good language or behavior models. We did testing at the oral school in Atlanta and they put her in one of their reverse mainstream classes for a day and observed her. They have a handful of kids with hearing loss in each class, and have the majority of typically hearing kids. It is so well known for being such a supportive school and great language driven program that people with hearing kids fight to get their kids into it! I could have seen Maggie in that sort of class but it would have been a 200 mile per day commute so that was impossible. That's our story. in GA 3yr old in school > >I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please > >Hollie Hutchings > > > >All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > Quote
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Posted February 1, 2006 Hollie, I don't feel like you can go wrong with putting your 3 year old in a preschool program. If it becomes too much for him, you can always take a day off each week or work something out to give him a break. In our case, we didn't find out that our daughter had a mod-sev hearing impairment until she was 2 years, 7 months. I was working full time and didn't see a way out of that. We hired a SLP to see her three times a week, but saw no improvement. So we did put her in a private oral deaf school, right after her 3rd birthday, 5 days a week, 9am - 2pm. She started there with hardly any language and we couldn't get her to wear her hearing aids consistently. The first day of school she saw all the other kids in her class (5 kids, if I remember correctly) all wearing something on their ears. So we never had a problem with aids after that. By the end of that school year (7 weeks later) she could count to 5, could identify and say all the colors and shapes...and recited this in front of a crowd at the end of the school year program (she was extremely shy). Talk about making a mom cry. I did quit my job the following year, but even then I kept her at that school, but I just spent more time at the school (with my hearing 2 year old - who gained a lot of language from the experience). It is really such a short time frame for our children before they start school (kindergarten) and their hearing peers are soaking in language incidentally, while our HI children have to be " taught " language and concepts. My daughter is now 7 3/4 and I can't believe how time has flown. She is doing well, but I always have to be watching to make sure she doesn't fall behind. Good luck with your decision. Robin -------------- Original message -------------- I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please Hollie Hutchings All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Posted February 1, 2006 I am curious about this as well. I have a one year old and am trying to plan ahead. We are currently going to put the hearing four year old in preschool three days a week so that I can have three mornings a week to work with the one year old in the fall and spring. in Manassas, VA > I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please > > Hollie Hutchings > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 >did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in >one for kids with disabilites. > > Hollie Hutchings Hollie - My son is turning 2 tomorrow!!! And I've been toying with the idea of sending him to a preschool stating in September as well. I want him in a local preschool, so he can make friends with kids in the community, and I also want him in the BOCES program (a NY state funded preschool program for hearing impaired children)so he can focus on listening skills as well as typical preschool skills (ie: sharing, colors, etc...) So this is what we've decided on. He'll go to the local preschool (which is part of a yeshiva, so he'll learn about all things Jewish as well)on Tuesday's and Thursday's (8:45 - 12) and then to the BOCES preschool Friday's and one other day either Monday or Wednesday for about an hour and a half. I think this will work out well for him. He is definately ready to be in a group and he will really enjoy interacting with kids his own age. Every child is different - you know your child best. This is just to let you know what we are doing - hope it helps..... - mom of - Miri - 7 - hearing Abigail - 4 1/2 - hearing - 2 tomorrow - mild/moderate SNHL Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 Thanks for the ideas. I think he would like it he enjoys playing with others kids, he has a 5yr old sister. I just can't seem to find a school for three year olds unles it cost lots of money or is for kids with all disabilites. He is doing great as far as his speech is concern. As far as playing with other kids his does not have a problem. My mom watches as couple of kids his age and he loves to go there and play. Do you think it made a big difference as far as where your kids are in their hearing and speech abilites. Hollie Hutchings mom of maddie 5yr (normal hearing) Braydon 2 1/2 yr (profound loss, right ear implant @1yrs, left ear implanted @ 2yrs) > > Date: 2006/02/02 Thu AM 09:48:08 EST > To: Listen-Up > Subject: Re: 3yr old in school > > Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 Hi Hollie, I too consider myself a stay at home mom. received ST at home until she was 3yr. Because it was through EI, services ended on her third birthday. We had a couple of different choices. One was to send her to the local preschool. I had registered and signed her up for that class which would have been 2 days a week. We then attended our transistion meeting and was given the option of sending her to the school's preschool program which was 2 1/2 hours a day for five days in a neighboring district about 15 minutes away. It was a cross- catagorical class, but most of the kids were there for speech or PT/OT issues. They also had " normal " children who attended the school as speech models. After visiting the school's program we chose to send her there. was definately ready to go to school. She loved (and still loves) being with other children. Another consideration for us was that her brother was due a month before school started and my time to spend with working on things would be limited. She received the services of a ST and a HI and was in a language rich classroom. When started school, we had only known about her hearing loss for 9 months, so she had a LOT to catch up on. It was a choice that worked well for and the only regret that I have is that we were unable to continue her schooling in that district. Her brother however would not survive a 5 day school week. He currently is attending a local Luthern preschool 2 days a week 2 1/2 hours and enjoys it. Although is hearing, he does have some speech issues that are addressed by the districts ST. We were not orginialy going to send to preschool but realized that he needed to get use to being in social situations and needed to learn to listen to other adults. The two days a week in a structured environment has been so good for him. If you can visit some of the classes that are around you, you may get a better feel if it's something that he may enjoy and thrive in. Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing > > I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please > > Hollie Hutchings Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 > We're also in NY and I just want to clarify about BOCES because it can be a > wonderful resource for your child all through school. Thanks for the detailed expalnation - you said it much better than I ever could! Quote
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 Hi Hollie. My daughter is now 8, bi-lateral loss and wears BTE aids. I investigated many area schools and found one that was language rich and supportive of kids with special needs. We enrolled her in a mainstream 3 year old program 3 1/2 days/week. I then took her 2 1/2 days to a program for hearing impaired or speech delayed kids--turns out she was the only child with a hearing loss. The program was language rich and lots of fun. She did really well in both programs and gained speech and social skills. Good luck. > > I am a stay at home mom. It has come up during our therapy session that I should put my son in a 3yrs preschool program. Did any of you do that, and did you put them in a normal preschool or did you chose to put them in one for kids with disabilites. I need some help here. Also did you put them in a 5dys a week class, all day or half? Help need some stories here. please > > Hollie Hutchings > Quote
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