Guest guest Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Hmmmmm.....that was very interesting to me. It is funny how one task can be completed in such different ways. Your reply was helpful. I think it is interesting that you experiment with the strap tightness like that. Let me know what you figure out. Kaitlin's toes don't really reach the bottom strap so it doesn't make a difference how loose or tight it is. I keep the middle strap the tightest and the top strap looser because her calves looked like they were growing faster (in width) than her ankles. The top straps were never that tight on her either, I mean I can always put a finger between the strap and her leg. But the way her legs looked reminded me of how her thighs would grow around the cast. Like, I could always see a grow line after the cast came off. It is the same with the shoes, but it isn't swelling. Maybe they come up further on her because they are so big in comparison to her legs? I see what you are saying about pulling the middle strap taught before settling the tongue, I kind of try to do that, but the tongue is so big compared to her foot that it's difficult. I thought about trimming the shoes, but what if I trim them and when she grows into them there isn't enough leather later? Was that ever a problem for you after you trimmed Everett's shoes before? Do his heels sit against the back/bottom of the shoe completely? Kaitlin doesn't stand yet (or sit really) she is 5 months old. I wish I had a 3rd hand too! She won't stay off of her belly for longer than a few seconds and while I have no problem sticking a diaper on her backwards, I just can't get the shoes on that way no matter how hard I try! :-) Freeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 : Ha, Everett likes to chew on his straps too - it hadn't occured to me that was why the old straps were stiff on the ends (and easier to buckle cuz of it). Maybe I need to dip these new ones in jelly or something. Ya, and you're right about the little cleats! The way I'm finding to apply these new shoes is to seat the foot, then strap in the toe strap real tight first. Then I smooth out the tongue best I can, pull the strap over it - well, this is hard to describe - I smooth out the tongue, then pull the middle strap more up and then over, so it's already good and tight before I lay it down on the tongue. This way I " m not bunching up the tongue as I pull the strap across it. I hold all that real secure and use my 3rd hand (I WISH! HAHAH!) I told it all secure as I can as I slip the end through the buckle and reach the right hole. We had to add holes, too. What I am trying to avoid is having the leather strap pull directly across the tongue because of the friction created by leather rubbing across leather. I pretty much do the same with the top strap - lay it all in place then pull the strap up and then over the top rather than just skidding it across where the fiction causes the leather to bunch up. I'm going to give it a few days but then I may do some trimming. I trimmed some away from the first pair. This is only our 2nd night in these shoes but I THINK I am noticing that if the toe strap and the ankle/leg strap are good and tight the middle strap doesn't have to be as tight...not sure, still experimenting. Does your child stand up yet? I notice the shoes fit differently between a sitting position and standing position (better in a stand). The potential good news is that with our last pair, they broke in rather quickly and were a breeze to apply once they did. Hope some of that helps. s. Re: Re: what do you think? Thanks for the reply. We got the 's a few weeks ago. We must have the new design also. I never saw the old type and I wasn't sure if he had redesigned them since we got them. They are like high tops..I agree with the part about the leather bunching up. I can never get the tongue to the top strap to lay flat unless it is over the middle buckle and I don't think that is where it belongs. Can you get it under the middle buckle without buckling the middle buckle second? (does that question make sense?) The tread is painful...kinda like getting kicked with little cleets. I haven't had difficulty with the buckles, but maybe it is because Kaitlin has sucked on the leather straps so much they are hard on the ends and easier to pull through. I know that sounds silly, but I can't figure out how to get her to stop sucking on the darn things. Her shoes are a bit big and the straps dangle a few inches..(we had to add extra holes if that tells you anything) so she puts her feet up and bats at the straps or sucks on them. Any suggestions for that one? Freeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Our first set of shoes were HUGE. Everett was about 2 months old by then, but he's also a small baby by nature. He had about an inch between his toe and the end of the shoe so wrapping that tongue around his foot was impossible, there was simply too much tongue. I shortened it. He wore those shoes for about 8 or 9 months (I dont' keep the records like some parents do regarding all this stuff) - but the shortened tongue never caused any problem because it was all so form-fitted by then where the leather had shaped to his foot. What size are they? Did you send him measurments and he still made it that huge? It might concern me if the toe strap wasn't working on the toe-area to hold the foot in place. I notice this new pair has a size 2 stamped on ours. As for the heel being seated all the way back, no it doesn't. Never did in the previous pair either, especially at first, in fact I could slip a pencil through those holes in one side and out the other never touching his foot - but I notice as he stands in them now the heel does go down and in better. I figure if the heel is seated when I strap them on and then it moves away a little bit once I'm done it is probably OK....this assumption being based on the fact we just went though those 8 or 9 months like that and Ponseti said Everett's feet were doing very good, I think he even reduced our hours a little earlier than he reduces some babies. We picked up our shoes in Iowa the other day. Mr. and Dr. Ponseti both saw the way the old pair fit when we arrived and how the new pair fit when we left, so I guess I feel comfortable that they'll be OK. If it matters or not I don't know, but sitting down the old pair fit perfect, when he stood (and he stands quite a bit) his toes hung over the edge. Maybe try getting your girl on her feet with your 4th hand (haha) and see how her feet look in them when she bears weight. Does she not like to sit up? I found the bar helped Evertt sit up. He's always like to be upright though, he's been standing nearly since birth. This morning one foot had the pink area on the top of the foot and around the front of his leg slightly - still nothing worrisome but it just tells me I still haven't found the exact place to buckle them yet. I think this whole process is a lot of hit-n-miss. I miss the ease of the old pair, but I remind myself that they weren't that easy that first week when we got them. Good Luck. s. Re: 's New Shoes Hmmmmm.....that was very interesting to me. It is funny how one task can be completed in such different ways. Your reply was helpful. I think it is interesting that you experiment with the strap tightness like that. Let me know what you figure out. Kaitlin's toes don't really reach the bottom strap so it doesn't make a difference how loose or tight it is. I keep the middle strap the tightest and the top strap looser because her calves looked like they were growing faster (in width) than her ankles. The top straps were never that tight on her either, I mean I can always put a finger between the strap and her leg. But the way her legs looked reminded me of how her thighs would grow around the cast. Like, I could always see a grow line after the cast came off. It is the same with the shoes, but it isn't swelling. Maybe they come up further on her because they are so big in comparison to her legs? I see what you are saying about pulling the middle strap taught before settling the tongue, I kind of try to do that, but the tongue is so big compared to her foot that it's difficult. I thought about trimming the shoes, but what if I trim them and when she grows into them there isn't enough leather later? Was that ever a problem for you after you trimmed Everett's shoes before? Do his heels sit against the back/bottom of the shoe completely? Kaitlin doesn't stand yet (or sit really) she is 5 months old. I wish I had a 3rd hand too! She won't stay off of her belly for longer than a few seconds and while I have no problem sticking a diaper on her backwards, I just can't get the shoes on that way no matter how hard I try! :-) Freeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Yes, I sent the measurements and he made the shoes especially for Kaitlin. He said he was making them big so that she can were them for a long time. Hers are a size 1. According to the length of the shoe and her foot, the right shoe is only 1cm too big and the Left 2 cm. I swear it looks like more than that though. I don't know if I should be concerned that the bottom strap is useless for her. I think that the little rubber over hangs do a good job of holding her foot flat. She saw Dr. Frick (Ponseti certified) and he didn't seem concerned about it. He did say it is only the 4th pair of s he has seen though. Maybe I will call tomorrow and ask him. I never worried about it though since he made them big on purpose. Everytime I try to get Kaitlin to sit she wiggles to roll on her belly. She just doesn't seem to like sitting. Sometimes I can get her to sit for about 30 seconds, but that's it. I've heard that some baby's don't like to sit because their bellies are so big and round that they find it uncomfortable:-) Don't know if that's the case with her though. She is not like most babies...she hates her swing, her bouncer and her carseat. ANYTHING that involves a sitting position. She won't stay off her belly except to be upright in her jumper or saucer. Maybe she will walk early! Freeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I wondered the same thing about the upwards angle. I noticed that it is not on the s also. I thought maybe it was because the s do a better job at keeping the foot in an external rotation that the upward wasn't needed. Do you think that is a possibility? I thought that because the outward angle is reduced to 60 degrees for that same reason. I will ask him when I get a hold of him. I agree about donating them to American babies vs. overseas. I guess we have so many resources to help people in America that people think of poorer countries as needier? Those cleats are SOMETHING! Why in the world did he decide to logo them that way? Couldn't he just put his name in the rubber or atleast do something a little less painful? Maybe I will mention that to him as well, just in case he decides to redesign them again! Kaitlin likes to repeatedly drag her feet against me when I feed her. Talk about painful!!! Freeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Too bad wanted our old shoes back or I'd send them to you to see if they fit her any better. He wanted to donate them some place over-seas and I urged him to please consider American babies as there are needy families here as well right at home. I looked at Everett's a little more close today, the heel doesn't go all the way back but his feet are flat in the shoe's bottom. One thing I do wonder, and if you call you could ask for us - in the old Markell shoes with the red bar, the toes of the foot are tipped upward I assume to keep the heel cord stretched out. Mtichell's shoes are not doing this. Could he explain that? My husband tonight remarked on the cleats - Ouch! haha I think that is a not good idea I could live with out. This kid climbs like crazy, all over us, the dogs, the cat, those things really do hurt. s. Re: 's New Shoes Yes, I sent the measurements and he made the shoes especially for Kaitlin. He said he was making them big so that she can were them for a long time. Hers are a size 1. According to the length of the shoe and her foot, the right shoe is only 1cm too big and the Left 2 cm. I swear it looks like more than that though. I don't know if I should be concerned that the bottom strap is useless for her. I think that the little rubber over hangs do a good job of holding her foot flat. She saw Dr. Frick (Ponseti certified) and he didn't seem concerned about it. He did say it is only the 4th pair of s he has seen though. Maybe I will call tomorrow and ask him. I never worried about it though since he made them big on purpose. Everytime I try to get Kaitlin to sit she wiggles to roll on her belly. She just doesn't seem to like sitting. Sometimes I can get her to sit for about 30 seconds, but that's it. I've heard that some baby's don't like to sit because their bellies are so big and round that they find it uncomfortable:-) Don't know if that's the case with her though. She is not like most babies...she hates her swing, her bouncer and her carseat. ANYTHING that involves a sitting position. She won't stay off her belly except to be upright in her jumper or saucer. Maybe she will walk early! Freeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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