Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Very well said ! I would like to point out a minor typo - you stated that the " norm " at this time is reverse last Markell boots where I beleive you meant STRAIGHT last Markell boots. Thanks so much for taking the time to type this up for the new users. It is sometimes very hard to know how best to approach the new parent who is facing issues because of a doctor or orthotist that is not performing up to par. Angel Using the foot abduction brace As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's situation. 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to get experience in diagnosing these cases. 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the best. 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the doctor has given correct instructions. 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a time), the files, photos, and links sections..... I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we see with so many new families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Very well said ! I would like to point out a minor typo - you stated that the " norm " at this time is reverse last Markell boots where I beleive you meant STRAIGHT last Markell boots. Thanks so much for taking the time to type this up for the new users. It is sometimes very hard to know how best to approach the new parent who is facing issues because of a doctor or orthotist that is not performing up to par. Angel Using the foot abduction brace As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's situation. 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to get experience in diagnosing these cases. 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the best. 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the doctor has given correct instructions. 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a time), the files, photos, and links sections..... I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we see with so many new families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Very well said ! I would like to point out a minor typo - you stated that the " norm " at this time is reverse last Markell boots where I beleive you meant STRAIGHT last Markell boots. Thanks so much for taking the time to type this up for the new users. It is sometimes very hard to know how best to approach the new parent who is facing issues because of a doctor or orthotist that is not performing up to par. Angel Using the foot abduction brace As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's situation. 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to get experience in diagnosing these cases. 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the best. 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the doctor has given correct instructions. 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a time), the files, photos, and links sections..... I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we see with so many new families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Yep- my typo- it should have said Straight last, not reverse last. > Very well said ! I would like to point out a minor typo - you stated that the " norm " at this time is reverse last Markell boots where I beleive you meant STRAIGHT last Markell boots. > > Thanks so much for taking the time to type this up for the new users. It is sometimes very hard to know how best to approach the new parent who is facing issues because of a doctor or orthotist that is not performing up to par. > > Angel > > Using the foot abduction brace > > > As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the > Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my > personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way > pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please > don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it > or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's > situation. > > 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major > issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the > method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or > orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, > if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues > with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and > American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a > non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where > bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with > experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical > clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues > regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this > group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to > get experience in diagnosing these cases. > > 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear > the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with > good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is > corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude > of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace > and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is > new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just > not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider > seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even > pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected > feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the > best. > > 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. > The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- > top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but > the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The > inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance > equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot > should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent > must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot > outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then > it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot > should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate > the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard > of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the > doctor has given correct instructions. > > 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in > preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the > forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and > Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not > preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf > since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. > > 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well > your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in > mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and > muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may > also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but > they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, > movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can > punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap > can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam > (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be > flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters > and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child > how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. > > I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , > the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the > brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many > parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up > being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working > with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's > best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get > everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in > desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some > troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got > their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . > To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to > search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep > hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a > time), the files, photos, and links sections..... > > I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter > had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst > (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 > months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue > to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board > can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they > need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or > dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we > see with so many new families. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 I just wanted to mention that our orthopedist told us that if the child is in reverse last shoes, the rotation should be set at 45 degrees. The reason for this is because the shoes are already bending the foot/feet outward and a 70 degree rotation is going to really turn the foot/feet outward and make it really uncomfortable for the child. My understanding was that the foot/feet actually end up being rotated more than 70 degrees if reverse last shoes are set at 70 degrees. Straight last shoes are set to a 70 degree rotation. Not trying to start an argument or anything, just mentioning what our doctor told us when I questioned why 's reverse last shoes were rotated to 45 degrees instead of the 70 degrees I had been hearing about. Once he was able to fit into the straight last, the doctor did change the rotation to 70 degrees. I would suggest that anyone who has the reverse last shoes set at 45 or 70 and are thinking about changing the rotation or just want to make sure it's set where it should be, email Dr. Ponseti and ask him what it should be, as I am only stating what I was told by our doctor. I would hate to see a child uncomfortable because reverse last shoes were rotated too far, but also don't want to see anyone change the rotation on their child's reverse last shoes based only what I've posted about what our doctor told us. Now a question. We have the red adjustable bar. I've seen mention about the bar having a bend in it? I don't notice a bend in ours. Is this bend only on the nonadjustable bars or should ours have one....or is the bar actually made with the bend and I'm just not seeing it? The area of the bar on either side where the shoes go on are up a bit higher than the rest of the bar....is that the bend I'm reading about? and BCF 03/25/2004 DBB 23/7 Using the foot abduction brace > 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. > The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- > top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but > the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The > inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance > equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot > should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent > must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot > outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then > it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot > should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate > the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard > of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the > doctor has given correct instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Good point about the angle with the reverse last shoes. I am glad you brought that up, because we hardly hear of people using the reverse last shoes, though I know there are some cases where they're needed. The bend is in the bar near the ends on the red bar. If you look in the files section, in the bracing folder, there are pictures of my daughter's brace (unilateral cf) there- look at the side view picture and you can see the bend for the left foot's shoe. I believe that the bend for the one-piece gold bar is closer to the center of the bar, but I've never personally seen one, so I cannot vouch for that. > I just wanted to mention that our orthopedist told us that if the child is > in reverse last shoes, the rotation should be set at 45 degrees. The reason > for this is because the shoes are already bending the foot/feet outward and > a 70 degree rotation is going to really turn the foot/feet outward and make > it really uncomfortable for the child. My understanding was that the > foot/feet actually end up being rotated more than 70 degrees if reverse last > shoes are set at 70 degrees. Straight last shoes are set to a 70 degree > rotation. Not trying to start an argument or anything, just mentioning what > our doctor told us when I questioned why 's reverse last shoes > were rotated to 45 degrees instead of the 70 degrees I had been hearing > about. Once he was able to fit into the straight last, the doctor did > change the rotation to 70 degrees. > > I would suggest that anyone who has the reverse last shoes set at 45 or 70 > and are thinking about changing the rotation or just want to make sure it's > set where it should be, email Dr. Ponseti and ask him what it should be, as > I am only stating what I was told by our doctor. I would hate to see a > child uncomfortable because reverse last shoes were rotated too far, but > also don't want to see anyone change the rotation on their child's reverse > last shoes based only what I've posted about what our doctor told us. > > Now a question. We have the red adjustable bar. I've seen mention about > the bar having a bend in it? I don't notice a bend in ours. Is this bend > only on the nonadjustable bars or should ours have one....or is the bar > actually made with the bend and I'm just not seeing it? The area of the bar > on either side where the shoes go on are up a bit higher than the rest of > the bar....is that the bend I'm reading about? > > and > BCF 03/25/2004 > DBB 23/7 > > > Using the foot abduction brace > > > > 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. > > The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- > > top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but > > the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The > > inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance > > equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot > > should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent > > must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot > > outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then > > it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non- clubfoot > > should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate > > the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard > > of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the > > doctor has given correct instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 What Said!!!!!! Except for the first couple of days with the DBB, there should be no histerics, no constant crying or obviously unhappy baby. I want to stress that the baby's foot will be sore and the shoe will be stiff when you first put it on. Do yourself and your baby a favor and give the little tyke some Tylenol to take the edge off. They will probably be good as new by the next day. My child, the first night was miserable, even with Tylenol, but after she went to sleep we held her all night and when she got restless, we changed her position. By morning, she was rested, naturally happy and that was the end of the problems with the DBB. She got a couple of red spots while we were figuring out how tight is tight enough and I just put a little desitin on the sore spot and it was all better the next day. Robin & Rose 3/12/03 Right club foot kitaki m_kitaki@...> wrote: Very well said ! I would like to point out a minor typo - you stated that the " norm " at this time is reverse last Markell boots where I beleive you meant STRAIGHT last Markell boots. Thanks so much for taking the time to type this up for the new users. It is sometimes very hard to know how best to approach the new parent who is facing issues because of a doctor or orthotist that is not performing up to par. Angel Using the foot abduction brace As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's situation. 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to get experience in diagnosing these cases. 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the best. 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the doctor has given correct instructions. 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a time), the files, photos, and links sections..... I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we see with so many new families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 What Said!!!!!! Except for the first couple of days with the DBB, there should be no histerics, no constant crying or obviously unhappy baby. I want to stress that the baby's foot will be sore and the shoe will be stiff when you first put it on. Do yourself and your baby a favor and give the little tyke some Tylenol to take the edge off. They will probably be good as new by the next day. My child, the first night was miserable, even with Tylenol, but after she went to sleep we held her all night and when she got restless, we changed her position. By morning, she was rested, naturally happy and that was the end of the problems with the DBB. She got a couple of red spots while we were figuring out how tight is tight enough and I just put a little desitin on the sore spot and it was all better the next day. Robin & Rose 3/12/03 Right club foot kitaki m_kitaki@...> wrote: Very well said ! I would like to point out a minor typo - you stated that the " norm " at this time is reverse last Markell boots where I beleive you meant STRAIGHT last Markell boots. Thanks so much for taking the time to type this up for the new users. It is sometimes very hard to know how best to approach the new parent who is facing issues because of a doctor or orthotist that is not performing up to par. Angel Using the foot abduction brace As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's situation. 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to get experience in diagnosing these cases. 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the best. 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the doctor has given correct instructions. 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a time), the files, photos, and links sections..... I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we see with so many new families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 What Said!!!!!! Except for the first couple of days with the DBB, there should be no histerics, no constant crying or obviously unhappy baby. I want to stress that the baby's foot will be sore and the shoe will be stiff when you first put it on. Do yourself and your baby a favor and give the little tyke some Tylenol to take the edge off. They will probably be good as new by the next day. My child, the first night was miserable, even with Tylenol, but after she went to sleep we held her all night and when she got restless, we changed her position. By morning, she was rested, naturally happy and that was the end of the problems with the DBB. She got a couple of red spots while we were figuring out how tight is tight enough and I just put a little desitin on the sore spot and it was all better the next day. Robin & Rose 3/12/03 Right club foot kitaki m_kitaki@...> wrote: Very well said ! I would like to point out a minor typo - you stated that the " norm " at this time is reverse last Markell boots where I beleive you meant STRAIGHT last Markell boots. Thanks so much for taking the time to type this up for the new users. It is sometimes very hard to know how best to approach the new parent who is facing issues because of a doctor or orthotist that is not performing up to par. Angel Using the foot abduction brace As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's situation. 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to get experience in diagnosing these cases. 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the best. 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the doctor has given correct instructions. 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a time), the files, photos, and links sections..... I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we see with so many new families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Thanks, from us, too, , for your explanation and help for those having trouble. I really feel for those who have been put in the situation of battling with a brace set up improperly or put onto not fully corrected feet; it's a prescription for frustration and failure.. It also doesn't help the perception of the method, if people think problems are inevitable, when they are not, and should not be. We are one of the families who had NO trouble with the brace, anywhere along the way. Even the first night wasn't bad, and my daughter was " older " , almost 6 months. We never had a single blister. Was it Joanne who calculated a while ago how many times the brace will have been put on by the time a child reaches a certain age? I've often wondered about that, but never stopped to actually figure.. =) it's mind boggling isn't it? It became such an ingrained part of our routine it's like teeth brushing or anything else done every day... like the thousands of times we have buckled the car seat straps or changed a diaper.. =) and the results have been so worth it.. My daughter just had her 4 year old checkup today, and the pediatrician just shook her head in amazement at how great her foot looks and moves, and as she hopped and tiptoed around the room. I think she said something like, " you'd never know.. " Thanks again, and Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Thanks, from us, too, , for your explanation and help for those having trouble. I really feel for those who have been put in the situation of battling with a brace set up improperly or put onto not fully corrected feet; it's a prescription for frustration and failure.. It also doesn't help the perception of the method, if people think problems are inevitable, when they are not, and should not be. We are one of the families who had NO trouble with the brace, anywhere along the way. Even the first night wasn't bad, and my daughter was " older " , almost 6 months. We never had a single blister. Was it Joanne who calculated a while ago how many times the brace will have been put on by the time a child reaches a certain age? I've often wondered about that, but never stopped to actually figure.. =) it's mind boggling isn't it? It became such an ingrained part of our routine it's like teeth brushing or anything else done every day... like the thousands of times we have buckled the car seat straps or changed a diaper.. =) and the results have been so worth it.. My daughter just had her 4 year old checkup today, and the pediatrician just shook her head in amazement at how great her foot looks and moves, and as she hopped and tiptoed around the room. I think she said something like, " you'd never know.. " Thanks again, and Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Thanks, from us, too, , for your explanation and help for those having trouble. I really feel for those who have been put in the situation of battling with a brace set up improperly or put onto not fully corrected feet; it's a prescription for frustration and failure.. It also doesn't help the perception of the method, if people think problems are inevitable, when they are not, and should not be. We are one of the families who had NO trouble with the brace, anywhere along the way. Even the first night wasn't bad, and my daughter was " older " , almost 6 months. We never had a single blister. Was it Joanne who calculated a while ago how many times the brace will have been put on by the time a child reaches a certain age? I've often wondered about that, but never stopped to actually figure.. =) it's mind boggling isn't it? It became such an ingrained part of our routine it's like teeth brushing or anything else done every day... like the thousands of times we have buckled the car seat straps or changed a diaper.. =) and the results have been so worth it.. My daughter just had her 4 year old checkup today, and the pediatrician just shook her head in amazement at how great her foot looks and moves, and as she hopped and tiptoed around the room. I think she said something like, " you'd never know.. " Thanks again, and Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 , I want to thank you for stating everything so clearly. I also wanted to echo that we had absolutely no problems with Zach adjusting to the bar (other than your normal " adjustment " period) - we were also treated in Iowa City. My heart aches for those who have to do such troubleshooting. How proud they must be, though, to know that their child will finally receive proper care due to their diligence and their acquisition of information from the internet. Thanks again! Holly Zachary 7/27/02 #2 Due: 1/8/05 > As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the > Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my > personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way > pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please > don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it > or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's > situation. > > 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major > issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the > method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or > orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, > if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues > with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and > American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a > non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where > bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with > experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical > clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues > regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this > group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to > get experience in diagnosing these cases. > > 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear > the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with > good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is > corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude > of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace > and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is > new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just > not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider > seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even > pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected > feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the > best. > > 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. > The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- > top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but > the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The > inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance > equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot > should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent > must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot > outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then > it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non- clubfoot > should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate > the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard > of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the > doctor has given correct instructions. > > 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in > preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the > forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and > Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not > preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf > since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. > > 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well > your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in > mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and > muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may > also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but > they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, > movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can > punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap > can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam > (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be > flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters > and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child > how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. > > I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , > the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the > brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many > parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up > being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working > with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's > best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get > everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in > desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some > troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got > their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . > To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to > search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep > hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a > time), the files, photos, and links sections..... > > I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter > had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst > (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 > months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue > to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board > can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they > need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or > dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we > see with so many new families. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 , I want to thank you for stating everything so clearly. I also wanted to echo that we had absolutely no problems with Zach adjusting to the bar (other than your normal " adjustment " period) - we were also treated in Iowa City. My heart aches for those who have to do such troubleshooting. How proud they must be, though, to know that their child will finally receive proper care due to their diligence and their acquisition of information from the internet. Thanks again! Holly Zachary 7/27/02 #2 Due: 1/8/05 > As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the > Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my > personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way > pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please > don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it > or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's > situation. > > 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major > issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the > method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or > orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, > if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues > with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and > American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a > non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where > bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with > experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical > clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues > regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this > group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to > get experience in diagnosing these cases. > > 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear > the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with > good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is > corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude > of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace > and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is > new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just > not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider > seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even > pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected > feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the > best. > > 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. > The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- > top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but > the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The > inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance > equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot > should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent > must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot > outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then > it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non- clubfoot > should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate > the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard > of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the > doctor has given correct instructions. > > 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in > preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the > forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and > Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not > preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf > since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. > > 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well > your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in > mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and > muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may > also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but > they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, > movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can > punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap > can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam > (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be > flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters > and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child > how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. > > I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , > the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the > brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many > parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up > being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working > with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's > best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get > everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in > desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some > troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got > their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . > To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to > search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep > hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a > time), the files, photos, and links sections..... > > I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter > had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst > (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 > months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue > to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board > can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they > need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or > dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we > see with so many new families. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Well said ! We have also had minimal trouble with the brace. Livie got her brace in Iowa at about 6.5 months old. The frist two days were a little rough in that she kept slipping out of the shoes, but in hindsight I realized that it was a combination of the fact that her foot was very swelled from having been in a cast for virtually six months (through several doctors before we went to Iowa) and also the fact that I just wasn't tightening the strap enough. After two days the swelling went down, I tightened the strap and we have never had blister problems. As you might remember, Livie stopped wearing her brace at 1.5 years old due to the advice of another Ponseti trained physician because of loose ligaments. We took Livie back to Iowa to be treated for a relapse about three months ago. She had one two week cast to recorrect and then back into the FAB for 14-16 hours a day. I was terrified how it was going to go trying to put a 2.5 year old into a brace after she hadn't worn it for a year. Livie did fabulously though! Still no problems with blisters. I do have to be militant about her wearing it now though. If she gets the slightest inkling that I might not make her wear it, she's going to fight me every time! Livie doesn't nap anymore, so the two hours in the afternoon can be a chore, but we have stuck to our guns for the last three months and she's doing well. It's unfotunate that so many children are put into the brace without being fully corrected or with it not set up properly. It really is giving the Ponseti method a bad reputation when it should be a nonissue. For us it truly is and always has been just one more thing that we have to do to care for our child (like changing diapers, making bottles, rocking to sleep and all the other thousand things that you do for a baby!) Anyway, this has turned into a novel when all I really wanted to say was well said!! Jen & Livie (10-18-01 severe left clubfoot) Using the foot abduction brace As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's situation. 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to get experience in diagnosing these cases. 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the best. 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the doctor has given correct instructions. 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a time), the files, photos, and links sections..... I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we see with so many new families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Well said ! We have also had minimal trouble with the brace. Livie got her brace in Iowa at about 6.5 months old. The frist two days were a little rough in that she kept slipping out of the shoes, but in hindsight I realized that it was a combination of the fact that her foot was very swelled from having been in a cast for virtually six months (through several doctors before we went to Iowa) and also the fact that I just wasn't tightening the strap enough. After two days the swelling went down, I tightened the strap and we have never had blister problems. As you might remember, Livie stopped wearing her brace at 1.5 years old due to the advice of another Ponseti trained physician because of loose ligaments. We took Livie back to Iowa to be treated for a relapse about three months ago. She had one two week cast to recorrect and then back into the FAB for 14-16 hours a day. I was terrified how it was going to go trying to put a 2.5 year old into a brace after she hadn't worn it for a year. Livie did fabulously though! Still no problems with blisters. I do have to be militant about her wearing it now though. If she gets the slightest inkling that I might not make her wear it, she's going to fight me every time! Livie doesn't nap anymore, so the two hours in the afternoon can be a chore, but we have stuck to our guns for the last three months and she's doing well. It's unfotunate that so many children are put into the brace without being fully corrected or with it not set up properly. It really is giving the Ponseti method a bad reputation when it should be a nonissue. For us it truly is and always has been just one more thing that we have to do to care for our child (like changing diapers, making bottles, rocking to sleep and all the other thousand things that you do for a baby!) Anyway, this has turned into a novel when all I really wanted to say was well said!! Jen & Livie (10-18-01 severe left clubfoot) Using the foot abduction brace As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's situation. 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to get experience in diagnosing these cases. 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the best. 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the doctor has given correct instructions. 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a time), the files, photos, and links sections..... I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we see with so many new families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 That was a good summery, thanks. My first trouble with the DBB was that my son was not corrected enough to wear it (and he ended up having the ATT surgery directed by Dr. P). My second trouble with the DBB was defective shoe construction on my 2nd born cf baby. The shoes have been a life saver but I know hundred of children have worn the Markell just as successfully. s. Using the foot abduction brace As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's situation. 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to get experience in diagnosing these cases. 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the best. 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the doctor has given correct instructions. 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a time), the files, photos, and links sections..... I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we see with so many new families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 I found using a Sleep Sack helped us all adjust to the bar as it kept him swaddled up - the less he could move his legs the better he slept those first weeks. s. Using the foot abduction brace As a 4 year veteran of various clubfoot support boards and the Ponseti method, I'm going to attempt to type some of my personal " OBSERVATIONS " and things I've picked up along the way pertaining to the foot abduction brace (also known as DBB)- please don't flame me or get upset with any of the text below- just take it or leave it (or parts thereof) if it pertains to your child's situation. 1) Almost all families who have posted on the internet about major issues with the brace are working with doctors who are new to the method, who are modifying or only using parts of the method, or orthotists who are not setting up the brace properly. Very rarely, if ever, have I heard of families who have severe or chronic issues with the brace when they are treated by the U of Iowa staff and American Prosthetics & Orthotics in Iowa City. Bracing seems to be a non-issue for the families who are in experienced hands, where bracing can be a nightmare for families who are not working with experienced staff. An exception would be children with a-typical clubfeet where the regular straight last shoe could cause issues regardless- but the new sandals seem to have helped this group of children also; it will just take some time for doctors to get experience in diagnosing these cases. 2) The child's foot **must** be completely corrected in order to wear the brace comfortably. It seems that some doctors (even those with good reputations and experience) can " think " the child's foot is corrected, when, in fact, it is not. There cannot be an attitude of " this is as good as this foot is going to get- let's try the brace and hope that we can maintain it (or improve it) " . If your doctor is new to the Ponseti method, is modifying the method, or if you're just not 100% confident that the foot is corrected, you should consider seeking a second, third, or fourth opinion on the foot/feet. Even pictures or video sent to a doctor can help in diagnosing uncorrected feet or problem areas, though a physical examination is really the best. 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be comfortable. The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular high- top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a clubfoot should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the foot outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, then it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non-clubfoot should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to facilitate the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have heard of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the doctor has given correct instructions. 4) The FAB is the preferred brace because of it's success in preventing relapse. The brace keeps the foot rotated outward and the forefoot pointed upward to maintain the correction. The AFO and Wheaton brace cannot maintain the outward rotation. The KAFO is not preferred due to the potential of causing muscle atrophy in the calf since the knee is tied in with the foot/ankle. 5) Unfortunately, there's no " guideline " or prediction about how well your child will adjust to the brace- however, some things to keep in mind are: the foot/leg will most likely be sensitive to the touch and muscles will be sore when the last cast is removed, the foot may also be swollen when the last cast is removed, red marks are okay but they should fade within a half hour of the shoe being removed, movement between the shoe and foot is what causes blisters, you can punch more holes in the strap as the leather stretches, saddlesoap can be used to soften the shoe leather, sometimes a custom foam (plastizode) insert is used to keep the heel down, the foot should be flat in the shoe before strapping/lacing up, be on-guard for blisters and pressure sores and deal with them immediately. Teach the child how to kick their legs in unison when wearing the brace. I guess what I'm trying to stress is that if everything is " right " , the child shouldn't have any major problems with the brace, and the brace should never cause pain. It's just unfortunate that many parents have to struggle to get things " right " and they may end up being more educated than the orthotists and doctors they're working with. Bracing is crucial to prevent relapse, and it's in the child's best interest for the parent to persevere in their attempts to get everything on track. We've had many families come to this board in desparation, barely clinging to their sanity, but after some troubleshooting (addressing both minor and major issues) they got their bracing issues resolved and their life back to " normal " . To all the new families- please ask questions- and feel free to search the archives using key words in your search (you have to keep hitting the next button to scroll through the posts one section at a time), the files, photos, and links sections..... I hope this is useful to some.....I feel fortunate that my daughter had zero issues with the brace, we were prepared for the worst (tolerance-wise) since she first wore it at the *mature* age of 5 months old! I feel for the families who have struggled and continue to struggle to get the brace right for their child- I hope this board can continue to help them diagnose problems and get the support they need. I know this is a major issue, because it never goes away or dies down as a topic on our board- it's a constant problem that we see with so many new families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Hi , We have reverse last shoes and I posted a question some time ago asking why reverse lasts were no longer used. Jay Markell replied back with an explanation. He stated that reverse last shoes give an extra 8degrees angle which answered the question I had as to why Zoe's angle was set at 60 degrees by our our ortho. Dr. P used to use the reverse last when the DBB could not give proper rotation and the shoes gave the extra angle. Here is the link if you would like to have a read. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/nosurgery4clubfoot/message/21621 I hope this helps. Thanks for the summary! Louisa and Zoe 2-22-04 Right Uni Clubfoot > > I just wanted to mention that our orthopedist told us that if the > child is > > in reverse last shoes, the rotation should be set at 45 degrees. > The reason > > for this is because the shoes are already bending the foot/feet > outward and > > a 70 degree rotation is going to really turn the foot/feet outward > and make > > it really uncomfortable for the child. My understanding was that > the > > foot/feet actually end up being rotated more than 70 degrees if > reverse last > > shoes are set at 70 degrees. Straight last shoes are set to a 70 > degree > > rotation. Not trying to start an argument or anything, just > mentioning what > > our doctor told us when I questioned why 's reverse last > shoes > > were rotated to 45 degrees instead of the 70 degrees I had been > hearing > > about. Once he was able to fit into the straight last, the doctor > did > > change the rotation to 70 degrees. > > > > I would suggest that anyone who has the reverse last shoes set at > 45 or 70 > > and are thinking about changing the rotation or just want to make > sure it's > > set where it should be, email Dr. Ponseti and ask him what it > should be, as > > I am only stating what I was told by our doctor. I would hate to > see a > > child uncomfortable because reverse last shoes were rotated too > far, but > > also don't want to see anyone change the rotation on their child's > reverse > > last shoes based only what I've posted about what our doctor told > us. > > > > Now a question. We have the red adjustable bar. I've seen mention > about > > the bar having a bend in it? I don't notice a bend in ours. Is > this bend > > only on the nonadjustable bars or should ours have one....or is the > bar > > actually made with the bend and I'm just not seeing it? The area > of the bar > > on either side where the shoes go on are up a bit higher than the > rest of > > the bar....is that the bend I'm reading about? > > > > and > > BCF 03/25/2004 > > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > Using the foot abduction brace > > > > > > > 3) The FAB must be set up correctly for the child to be > comfortable. > > > The shoe can be a straight last shoe, reverse last shoe, regular > high- > > > top shoe glued to a board, or sandal........but > > > the " standard " at this time is the Markell reverse last shoe. The > > > inside edges of the heels of the shoes should be set at a distance > > > equal to the width of the child's shoulders. The shoe for a > clubfoot > > > should be set at an outward rotation of 70 degrees, but the parent > > > must ensure that the last cast that was applied also rotated the > foot > > > outward to this angle. If the foot wasn't casted at that angle, > then > > > it won't be comfortable in the brace at that angle. A non- > clubfoot > > > should be set at 25-45 degrees. There is a slight bend to > facilitate > > > the front of the foot flexing upward on the clubfoot. We have > heard > > > of cases of orthotists setting up the brace wrong- even when the > > > doctor has given correct instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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