Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Our audiologist's office has a program called Visual Scan (also known as AudioScan). While they have had it for about two years, I know that they are one of the few in our area who have it. You can do just as you described: upload a person's audiogram and play it back for aided and unaided hearing (this is not manufacturer specific; it's available for all brands of aids). You can hear voices, common sounds, and environmental sounds based on that audiogram. You can speak into a microphone and hear how it sounds to that specific HOH person. You can overlay background noise and hear how it affects comprehension. What makes it visual is that you can also see the sounds on the audiogram on the screen, so it's easy to visualize what they can hear and can not. This does not involve a lot of hardware (essentially a lap top with the software and audiogram loaded up, speakers, and a mike), so it's portable-- provided that the office allows that (from what I remember our audiologist saying, it's rather pricey software). I don't know if it has the capability of being saved and loaded onto a CD or DVD. Most Children's Hospitals and large audiology clinics (and some therapists and their centers) probably have a CD with the hearing losses recorded on to it. While the hearing loss is not child specific (just preprogrammed mild, moderate, moderate-severe, severe, and profound losses), most of the CDs start with reciting a sentence or two, then repeating it with the level of loss layered over the recording. While it does not give the nuances of an individual's hearing level (i.e., the slope of the loss), it helps to hammer home to the general public how significant even the smallest level of loss can be. Our Children's Hospital loans the CD out for family use. I watched Carol Flexer a few years ago demonstrate it with a soundfield system to show the benefits of such technology. So, while it's not up-to-the-minute technology, there's some basic stuff out there to get the point across to teachers, school officials, etc. I know it's available to buy somewhere, yet I've never searched around for it. Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 In a message dated 12/30/2005 7:23:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, stromms@... writes: Apparently, this is new technology that is to be used in counseling parents. I would really like to hook a couple of my sons teachers up to the simulator. Then they could understand why we ask for what we do. I don't know how wide spread this simulator is, the audiologist implied that it was new. I just wanted the group to know it exists-maybe some audiologists and school systems could be induced to buy or borrow it. Sheez, there's an English teacher here I'd like to hook up to that machine right now! What a great thing. I'll have to ask about it next time we see the audis! Thanks! -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 It was programmed to simulate my son's loss at each level. He hears better at higher pitches, and less well in low pitches. I sat about three feet from the audiologist and he randomly read some things from my son's file I heard a few " aa " s some " ch " and " k " , for example. Even though I am familiar with what he was reading, I didn't have a clue what he was saying, except for parts of syllables. Then he switched the earphones to simulate my son's hearing aided and I heard clearly, but not completely when he walked around the room. I realized what I had not before, that the hearing aids " created " the sound for him. That is he only can hear as well as his hearing aid quality and its programming. If the latter is off a bit, it's not creating appropriate sound for him. I now understand how important it is to get the right hearing aids for him-for example, he is a musician, he sings, play a couple of instruments, arranges and composes music. He needs three programs on his aids. He needs the programming updated often because he has a fluctuating loss. Anything else doesn't serve his needs. That being said, with the right aids, he hears amazingly well-speech, that is, music is another story. Re: Hearing Test I have never heard of this! That is amazing! how does this work? Does it simulate the loss of a person with a loss to better understand ? Wow! I am really new at this! --- Listen-Up wrote: > I am pretty sure that is the one my audi has since we have Oticon > Synchros and she is happy with that company right now. They had > representatives from the company come spend several days at her office > this past year. > > > > On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 11:25 -0800, Ann Marie on wrote: > > Does anyone know the name of this hearing loss simulator? I heard one at a conference recently and it was by Oticon. It was called Ecaps software. It was great! I know everyone at the conference wanted to get their hands on it. Still not sure how to get it. Is there another one that you know of? > > Ann Marie > > > > Deb DiAnni wrote: > > I was able to " listen " to that a few years ago at a parents conference. I found it facinating and asked our audi at the time about it. She had heard of it, but had no idea how to get it. I think it's great that it is starting to be used by audi's. > > > > I agree with you, I would love to have the people who work with my daughter be able to listen to this as well. There is a website that has some examples of what hearing loss sounds like, but it's very general. Whereas this program they input the child's audiogram so you get a more accurate idea. > > > > Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing > > > > > > > > Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never were and ask why not. G.B Shaw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 stromms@... wrote: <<That being said, with the right aids, he hears amazingly well-speech, that is, music is another story.>> , Perhaps you know this already, but different aids " hear " music differently. I'm not sure I'll get the explanation correct, but our audi explained it to me months ago. The digital aids take sound and decide what's " noise " and what's important to amplify. They throw " noise " out and keep only the important stuff (speech). One type of processor for the digitals discriminates music as noise while another does not. As I said, I can't explain it, but perhaps your audi can help you find an aid that would more meet your son's needs. Thanks for the information about this simulation. Your explanation was very detailed. Johanna --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Thanks, Joanna, I'll look into this. Re: Hearing Test stromms@... wrote: <<That being said, with the right aids, he hears amazingly well-speech, that is, music is another story.>> , Perhaps you know this already, but different aids " hear " music differently. I'm not sure I'll get the explanation correct, but our audi explained it to me months ago. The digital aids take sound and decide what's " noise " and what's important to amplify. They throw " noise " out and keep only the important stuff (speech). One type of processor for the digitals discriminates music as noise while another does not. As I said, I can't explain it, but perhaps your audi can help you find an aid that would more meet your son's needs. Thanks for the information about this simulation. Your explanation was very detailed. Johanna --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Thanks, Joanna, I'll look into this. Re: Hearing Test stromms@... wrote: <<That being said, with the right aids, he hears amazingly well-speech, that is, music is another story.>> , Perhaps you know this already, but different aids " hear " music differently. I'm not sure I'll get the explanation correct, but our audi explained it to me months ago. The digital aids take sound and decide what's " noise " and what's important to amplify. They throw " noise " out and keep only the important stuff (speech). One type of processor for the digitals discriminates music as noise while another does not. As I said, I can't explain it, but perhaps your audi can help you find an aid that would more meet your son's needs. Thanks for the information about this simulation. Your explanation was very detailed. Johanna --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Thanks, Joanna, I'll look into this. Re: Hearing Test stromms@... wrote: <<That being said, with the right aids, he hears amazingly well-speech, that is, music is another story.>> , Perhaps you know this already, but different aids " hear " music differently. I'm not sure I'll get the explanation correct, but our audi explained it to me months ago. The digital aids take sound and decide what's " noise " and what's important to amplify. They throw " noise " out and keep only the important stuff (speech). One type of processor for the digitals discriminates music as noise while another does not. As I said, I can't explain it, but perhaps your audi can help you find an aid that would more meet your son's needs. Thanks for the information about this simulation. Your explanation was very detailed. Johanna --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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