Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Down 1 pound from 115.4 to 114.4 ~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~' Tory Klementsen, MCP A+ Career and Technology Educator www.teechur.com www.msteechur.com -The successful person will do the things that the unsuccessful person will not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Congratulations, Tory! Just how far down do you want to go? You skinny little thing, you!! Hugs, Bette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Isn't it funny how people get " comfortable " with their own definitions of who we are? I sent a book called Washington 24/7 to my parents. You could personalize the cover with your own picture so I made a collage of pictures of Roy and I at different places in Washington. My Dad loved the book, but didn't know who the people on the cover were. I think it's because his definition of who I am still is " the fat one. " Since I am also the " sensitive one " when I react emotionally it is " overreacting " even if it isn't. Don't worry. I won't eat my emotions! I'm actually not an emotional eater, for the most part. I was always more of a " if it holds still long enough I might eat it...whether I'm hungry or not...whether it tastes good or not...whatever. I could eat. " Plus I am strangely " lucky " to have issues with fats and sugars since my surgery so I pay for it big time if I overindulge in either area. I know it will be fine in the long run. We're only really spending three full days with the family and a few partial days. Then we're off to Disneyland to unwind! At 08:20 AM 12/15/2004, cryssyzip wrote: >Thanks, Tory. I appreciate your response & it seems you are feeling >in better spirits now. Don't let your family get to you; it would >be easy to do. Just try to remember to be the at-home Tory, not the >doormat they see. I'm the same way. My family still sees me as the >baby, the irresponsible one, the f-up. But in real life I'm >responsible, in charge, taking care of business, running my >household. If they don't want to see that, tough luck. It's who I >am. They are not going to revert me back to high-school Crystal. > >Good luck with your family, & don't eat your feelings (but you >already knew that)! > >Rooting for you, >Crystal > > > > > > > > > > >Tory, > > > > > >I've been trying for hours to come up with something to say to you > > >that would help your state of mind, but I'm at a loss. You've >been > > >so helpful to everyone here that I really wanted you to get some >of > > >the benefits back. So, in lieu of good advice, I just wanted you >to > > >know that I am here for you, that you inspire so many of us, and > > >that I am rooting for you. > > > > Thanks so much Cryssy. That honestly does mean a lot to me. One of >the > > reasons I hang out on these lists is that I love to help other > > people...teacher, you know. But it's also because I get so much >help myself > > when things are wonky in my life. Sometimes I don't even ask for >it. > > Someone else says " Hey, this is going on with me...any ideas? " and >either > > it's the same thing I'm dealing with, or I give ideas and in doing >so I end > > up answering some of my OWN questions. > > > > >I think conquering our brains is the last & hardest step in this > > >weight loss process. As logical as I could spell it out that: 1. > > >You have such a amazing success story. 2. You ARE thin, even if > > >you still have a chubby girl brain sometimes and 3. You are >strong > > >and powerful- your emotions will still try to excuse all these >facts > > > & hold you in " fat day " self-concious mode. As real as reality >is, > > >sometimes you just can't convince your brain of the physical >truth. > > > > YES! I do have a chubby brain! It amazes me that I can look down >at times > > and see only fat. I know on a logical level that this is silly >because I'm > > not fat! What I'm seeing is empty skin, some normal fat deposits >(we ARE > > supposed to have fat on our bodies), and a few strange rumples >from scar > > tissue. (Oh yeah. I'm a babe!) > > > > Emotions aren't logical...that's why they are called emotions, I >guess. I > > have tried to " logic " my way out of this, but I still find myself > > scrutinizing every inch of my body lately. I try on my skinniest >jeans. Are > > they tighter? > > > > I'm a nutcase! > > > > >There is something about being around family that sets us back in > > >time, isn't there? > > > > Yes ma'am, there is! When I am with my family I am " just Tory " as >in, " Oh, > > it's just Tory. She's so sensitive. " or " Oh, it's just Tory. She >won't > > mind. " In my house I am Tory; wife, partner, dog-boss, fixer of >computers, > > gardener, runner. At work I'm Tory; teacher, geek-herder, club >adviser, > > mentor, fixer of computers, caretaker. But with my family >I'm " just > > Tory " ...not someone very important. > > > > I think this has been underscored by a situation with my sister. >She > > suddenly decided two weeks ago that since we were going to be in >California > > (we live in Washington) her and Mike would take the opportunity to >take a > > trip of their own and she wanted us to stay with her three >children for > > five days. When I said I'm sorry, but I can't do that since I have >plans > > already made, hotels already paid for, and (I didn't say it >but...duh) why > > in the WORLD would I want to go on vacation and babysit? I mean >PLEASE! > > Anyhow, when I said I couldn't do that she got very angry and >complained to > > my other sister that I'm selfish and a liar (because it's not like >she asks > > for much). Well...ummm...that's much. That very very much. I don't >think > > I'm selfish because I've already made plans. I'm certainly NOT a >liar; my > > hotel is pre-paid since we use Priceline. > > > > It just communicated to me that: > > > > 1. I'm not important enough to spend time with. I haven't seen my >sister in > > a year and a half. We're actually usually pretty close. > > 2. I couldn't possibly have plans that are as important as what >she wants > > to do. What? Did she think we were going to spend $500 to take a >plane to > > LAX, step off the plane, look at each other and say, " Okay we're >here. What > > do you want to do? " > > 3. Since I'm " just Tory " I don't really have the right to say no >if I'm > > asked for something. She had told my mom that she could " guilt me >into it. " > > 4. There is not a whole lot of respect for me since she felt I was > > " guiltable " and on top of that one of her rationalizations for >having us do > > it was that otherwise she'd have to pay a service $170 a day. So >instead > > she felt it was reasonable for me to pay for the two of us to fly >1500 > > miles to California, give up half of our vacation, and save her >money. > > > > In other words, " Oh, it's just Tory. She can't possibly have >anything > > important going on. I can con her into it. She's such a simple- >minded dolt. " > > > > On top of this my brother took back his offer to have us stay with >him and > > didn't tell me, but instead I heard this through the grapevine. >Again, " Oh, > > it's just Tory. She won't mind if now she has nowhere to stay. >Certainly > > there's a box on the street corner she can find. " (I think this is >what > > precipitated Tammy asking if we'd babysit, but we were staying >with Craig > > the first half of the trip, and she wanted us the second half when >we > > already have plans to visit Disneyland.) > > > > So suddenly I feel like fat, inconsequential, unimportant, " just >Tory " . > > Because these feelings are feelings my family brings out in me, >and because > > it wasn't until my family moved away that I was able to find >enough value > > in who I am to lose weight, and because when they were here I was >fat...I > > think those emotions are all intertwined. > > > > >Now, stop kicking yourself for ignoring hunger in Third World > > >countries while you're having a little personal reflection & > > >turmoil. You're not a saint, and you're allowed to have a little > > >self-image trouble without branding yourself an unfeeling clod. >It > > >is not selfish or vain to worry about what your family will think >of > > >you. It's perfectly natural. You want to be loved and respected >by > > >those you love. > > > > Thank you! Yes! You hit the nail on the head! I have always wanted >to be an > > important part of my family and I never have thought that I was. >Maybe I > > am. My perception might be completely off. But I've honestly >always felt > > like an afterthought. Okay, my perception is probably right on. >When they > > DID live here, less than a mile from me, they'd have parties >and " forget " > > to invite me. I did get called when the computers broke down, >though! > > > > So I guess it's okay if I'm a little self-involved right now. >Maybe even > > just giving myself permission to have fat days will help me move >beyond it. > > Silly! > > > > Thank you Crystal! Now you can see why I didn't want to shoot off >a quick > > response yesterday. I wanted to really read what you said and >reply to it. > > So who do I make the check out to for my hour of psychiatric >evaluation? Ha ha! > > > > >In closing, > > > > > >Don't let the man get you down! > > > > > > > > >With respect & congrats for your WI results, > > >Crystal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Have a great time Tory! I definitely eat my emotions, but that is another topic. Today I need strong & in control vibes coming my way because there is a HUGE box of truffles in the office. Truffles! Yikes! I'm feeling tormented! Holding on for dear life, Crystal > > > > > > > > > >Tory, > > > > > > > >I've been trying for hours to come up with something to say to you > > > >that would help your state of mind, but I'm at a loss. You've > >been > > > >so helpful to everyone here that I really wanted you to get some > >of > > > >the benefits back. So, in lieu of good advice, I just wanted you > >to > > > >know that I am here for you, that you inspire so many of us, and > > > >that I am rooting for you. > > > > > > Thanks so much Cryssy. That honestly does mean a lot to me. One of > >the > > > reasons I hang out on these lists is that I love to help other > > > people...teacher, you know. But it's also because I get so much > >help myself > > > when things are wonky in my life. Sometimes I don't even ask for > >it. > > > Someone else says " Hey, this is going on with me...any ideas? " and > >either > > > it's the same thing I'm dealing with, or I give ideas and in doing > >so I end > > > up answering some of my OWN questions. > > > > > > >I think conquering our brains is the last & hardest step in this > > > >weight loss process. As logical as I could spell it out that: 1. > > > >You have such a amazing success story. 2. You ARE thin, even if > > > >you still have a chubby girl brain sometimes and 3. You are > >strong > > > >and powerful- your emotions will still try to excuse all these > >facts > > > > & hold you in " fat day " self-concious mode. As real as reality > >is, > > > >sometimes you just can't convince your brain of the physical > >truth. > > > > > > YES! I do have a chubby brain! It amazes me that I can look down > >at times > > > and see only fat. I know on a logical level that this is silly > >because I'm > > > not fat! What I'm seeing is empty skin, some normal fat deposits > >(we ARE > > > supposed to have fat on our bodies), and a few strange rumples > >from scar > > > tissue. (Oh yeah. I'm a babe!) > > > > > > Emotions aren't logical...that's why they are called emotions, I > >guess. I > > > have tried to " logic " my way out of this, but I still find myself > > > scrutinizing every inch of my body lately. I try on my skinniest > >jeans. Are > > > they tighter? > > > > > > I'm a nutcase! > > > > > > >There is something about being around family that sets us back in > > > >time, isn't there? > > > > > > Yes ma'am, there is! When I am with my family I am " just Tory " as > >in, " Oh, > > > it's just Tory. She's so sensitive. " or " Oh, it's just Tory. She > >won't > > > mind. " In my house I am Tory; wife, partner, dog-boss, fixer of > >computers, > > > gardener, runner. At work I'm Tory; teacher, geek-herder, club > >adviser, > > > mentor, fixer of computers, caretaker. But with my family > >I'm " just > > > Tory " ...not someone very important. > > > > > > I think this has been underscored by a situation with my sister. > >She > > > suddenly decided two weeks ago that since we were going to be in > >California > > > (we live in Washington) her and Mike would take the opportunity to > >take a > > > trip of their own and she wanted us to stay with her three > >children for > > > five days. When I said I'm sorry, but I can't do that since I have > >plans > > > already made, hotels already paid for, and (I didn't say it > >but...duh) why > > > in the WORLD would I want to go on vacation and babysit? I mean > >PLEASE! > > > Anyhow, when I said I couldn't do that she got very angry and > >complained to > > > my other sister that I'm selfish and a liar (because it's not like > >she asks > > > for much). Well...ummm...that's much. That very very much. I don't > >think > > > I'm selfish because I've already made plans. I'm certainly NOT a > >liar; my > > > hotel is pre-paid since we use Priceline. > > > > > > It just communicated to me that: > > > > > > 1. I'm not important enough to spend time with. I haven't seen my > >sister in > > > a year and a half. We're actually usually pretty close. > > > 2. I couldn't possibly have plans that are as important as what > >she wants > > > to do. What? Did she think we were going to spend $500 to take a > >plane to > > > LAX, step off the plane, look at each other and say, " Okay we're > >here. What > > > do you want to do? " > > > 3. Since I'm " just Tory " I don't really have the right to say no > >if I'm > > > asked for something. She had told my mom that she could " guilt me > >into it. " > > > 4. There is not a whole lot of respect for me since she felt I was > > > " guiltable " and on top of that one of her rationalizations for > >having us do > > > it was that otherwise she'd have to pay a service $170 a day. So > >instead > > > she felt it was reasonable for me to pay for the two of us to fly > >1500 > > > miles to California, give up half of our vacation, and save her > >money. > > > > > > In other words, " Oh, it's just Tory. She can't possibly have > >anything > > > important going on. I can con her into it. She's such a simple- > >minded dolt. " > > > > > > On top of this my brother took back his offer to have us stay with > >him and > > > didn't tell me, but instead I heard this through the grapevine. > >Again, " Oh, > > > it's just Tory. She won't mind if now she has nowhere to stay. > >Certainly > > > there's a box on the street corner she can find. " (I think this is > >what > > > precipitated Tammy asking if we'd babysit, but we were staying > >with Craig > > > the first half of the trip, and she wanted us the second half when > >we > > > already have plans to visit Disneyland.) > > > > > > So suddenly I feel like fat, inconsequential, unimportant, " just > >Tory " . > > > Because these feelings are feelings my family brings out in me, > >and because > > > it wasn't until my family moved away that I was able to find > >enough value > > > in who I am to lose weight, and because when they were here I was > >fat...I > > > think those emotions are all intertwined. > > > > > > >Now, stop kicking yourself for ignoring hunger in Third World > > > >countries while you're having a little personal reflection & > > > >turmoil. You're not a saint, and you're allowed to have a little > > > >self-image trouble without branding yourself an unfeeling clod. > >It > > > >is not selfish or vain to worry about what your family will think > >of > > > >you. It's perfectly natural. You want to be loved and respected > >by > > > >those you love. > > > > > > Thank you! Yes! You hit the nail on the head! I have always wanted > >to be an > > > important part of my family and I never have thought that I was. > >Maybe I > > > am. My perception might be completely off. But I've honestly > >always felt > > > like an afterthought. Okay, my perception is probably right on. > >When they > > > DID live here, less than a mile from me, they'd have parties > >and " forget " > > > to invite me. I did get called when the computers broke down, > >though! > > > > > > So I guess it's okay if I'm a little self-involved right now. > >Maybe even > > > just giving myself permission to have fat days will help me move > >beyond it. > > > Silly! > > > > > > Thank you Crystal! Now you can see why I didn't want to shoot off > >a quick > > > response yesterday. I wanted to really read what you said and > >reply to it. > > > So who do I make the check out to for my hour of psychiatric > >evaluation? Ha ha! > > > > > > >In closing, > > > > > > > >Don't let the man get you down! > > > > > > > > > > > >With respect & congrats for your WI results, > > > >Crystal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Hahahaha! How did you do? I was given a box of chocolates yesterday...and I bought this sinfully rich cake for my kids. Here are my NSVs: 1. Did not eat any of the chocolates. I saved them to give to one of my kids. 2. Did not have a piece of cake (big red light food for me) and did NOT lick my fingers, the knife, or even have a taste of frosting. OH! And my one big downfall is free samples. Well yesterday I had a sample of Chex Mix and a cinnamon roll (sample) and journaled both! Yay me! At 07:10 AM 12/17/2004, cryssyzip wrote: >Have a great time Tory! > >I definitely eat my emotions, but that is another topic. Today I >need strong & in control vibes coming my way because there is a HUGE >box of truffles in the office. Truffles! Yikes! I'm feeling >tormented! > >Holding on for dear life, >Crystal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Tory, > > > > > > > > > >I've been trying for hours to come up with something to say >to you > > > > >that would help your state of mind, but I'm at a loss. You've > > >been > > > > >so helpful to everyone here that I really wanted you to get >some > > >of > > > > >the benefits back. So, in lieu of good advice, I just wanted >you > > >to > > > > >know that I am here for you, that you inspire so many of us, >and > > > > >that I am rooting for you. > > > > > > > > Thanks so much Cryssy. That honestly does mean a lot to me. >One of > > >the > > > > reasons I hang out on these lists is that I love to help other > > > > people...teacher, you know. But it's also because I get so much > > >help myself > > > > when things are wonky in my life. Sometimes I don't even ask >for > > >it. > > > > Someone else says " Hey, this is going on with me...any ideas? " >and > > >either > > > > it's the same thing I'm dealing with, or I give ideas and in >doing > > >so I end > > > > up answering some of my OWN questions. > > > > > > > > >I think conquering our brains is the last & hardest step in >this > > > > >weight loss process. As logical as I could spell it out >that: 1. > > > > >You have such a amazing success story. 2. You ARE thin, >even if > > > > >you still have a chubby girl brain sometimes and 3. You are > > >strong > > > > >and powerful- your emotions will still try to excuse all these > > >facts > > > > > & hold you in " fat day " self-concious mode. As real as >reality > > >is, > > > > >sometimes you just can't convince your brain of the physical > > >truth. > > > > > > > > YES! I do have a chubby brain! It amazes me that I can look >down > > >at times > > > > and see only fat. I know on a logical level that this is silly > > >because I'm > > > > not fat! What I'm seeing is empty skin, some normal fat >deposits > > >(we ARE > > > > supposed to have fat on our bodies), and a few strange rumples > > >from scar > > > > tissue. (Oh yeah. I'm a babe!) > > > > > > > > Emotions aren't logical...that's why they are called emotions, >I > > >guess. I > > > > have tried to " logic " my way out of this, but I still find >myself > > > > scrutinizing every inch of my body lately. I try on my >skinniest > > >jeans. Are > > > > they tighter? > > > > > > > > I'm a nutcase! > > > > > > > > >There is something about being around family that sets us >back in > > > > >time, isn't there? > > > > > > > > Yes ma'am, there is! When I am with my family I am " just Tory " >as > > >in, " Oh, > > > > it's just Tory. She's so sensitive. " or " Oh, it's just Tory. >She > > >won't > > > > mind. " In my house I am Tory; wife, partner, dog-boss, fixer of > > >computers, > > > > gardener, runner. At work I'm Tory; teacher, geek-herder, club > > >adviser, > > > > mentor, fixer of computers, caretaker. But with my family > > >I'm " just > > > > Tory " ...not someone very important. > > > > > > > > I think this has been underscored by a situation with my >sister. > > >She > > > > suddenly decided two weeks ago that since we were going to be >in > > >California > > > > (we live in Washington) her and Mike would take the >opportunity to > > >take a > > > > trip of their own and she wanted us to stay with her three > > >children for > > > > five days. When I said I'm sorry, but I can't do that since I >have > > >plans > > > > already made, hotels already paid for, and (I didn't say it > > >but...duh) why > > > > in the WORLD would I want to go on vacation and babysit? I mean > > >PLEASE! > > > > Anyhow, when I said I couldn't do that she got very angry and > > >complained to > > > > my other sister that I'm selfish and a liar (because it's not >like > > >she asks > > > > for much). Well...ummm...that's much. That very very much. I >don't > > >think > > > > I'm selfish because I've already made plans. I'm certainly NOT >a > > >liar; my > > > > hotel is pre-paid since we use Priceline. > > > > > > > > It just communicated to me that: > > > > > > > > 1. I'm not important enough to spend time with. I haven't seen >my > > >sister in > > > > a year and a half. We're actually usually pretty close. > > > > 2. I couldn't possibly have plans that are as important as what > > >she wants > > > > to do. What? Did she think we were going to spend $500 to take >a > > >plane to > > > > LAX, step off the plane, look at each other and say, " Okay >we're > > >here. What > > > > do you want to do? " > > > > 3. Since I'm " just Tory " I don't really have the right to say >no > > >if I'm > > > > asked for something. She had told my mom that she could " guilt >me > > >into it. " > > > > 4. There is not a whole lot of respect for me since she felt I >was > > > > " guiltable " and on top of that one of her rationalizations for > > >having us do > > > > it was that otherwise she'd have to pay a service $170 a day. >So > > >instead > > > > she felt it was reasonable for me to pay for the two of us to >fly > > >1500 > > > > miles to California, give up half of our vacation, and save her > > >money. > > > > > > > > In other words, " Oh, it's just Tory. She can't possibly have > > >anything > > > > important going on. I can con her into it. She's such a simple- > > >minded dolt. " > > > > > > > > On top of this my brother took back his offer to have us stay >with > > >him and > > > > didn't tell me, but instead I heard this through the grapevine. > > >Again, " Oh, > > > > it's just Tory. She won't mind if now she has nowhere to stay. > > >Certainly > > > > there's a box on the street corner she can find. " (I think >this is > > >what > > > > precipitated Tammy asking if we'd babysit, but we were staying > > >with Craig > > > > the first half of the trip, and she wanted us the second half >when > > >we > > > > already have plans to visit Disneyland.) > > > > > > > > So suddenly I feel like fat, inconsequential, >unimportant, " just > > >Tory " . > > > > Because these feelings are feelings my family brings out in me, > > >and because > > > > it wasn't until my family moved away that I was able to find > > >enough value > > > > in who I am to lose weight, and because when they were here I >was > > >fat...I > > > > think those emotions are all intertwined. > > > > > > > > >Now, stop kicking yourself for ignoring hunger in Third World > > > > >countries while you're having a little personal reflection & > > > > >turmoil. You're not a saint, and you're allowed to have a >little > > > > >self-image trouble without branding yourself an unfeeling >clod. > > >It > > > > >is not selfish or vain to worry about what your family will >think > > >of > > > > >you. It's perfectly natural. You want to be loved and >respected > > >by > > > > >those you love. > > > > > > > > Thank you! Yes! You hit the nail on the head! I have always >wanted > > >to be an > > > > important part of my family and I never have thought that I >was. > > >Maybe I > > > > am. My perception might be completely off. But I've honestly > > >always felt > > > > like an afterthought. Okay, my perception is probably right on. > > >When they > > > > DID live here, less than a mile from me, they'd have parties > > >and " forget " > > > > to invite me. I did get called when the computers broke down, > > >though! > > > > > > > > So I guess it's okay if I'm a little self-involved right now. > > >Maybe even > > > > just giving myself permission to have fat days will help me >move > > >beyond it. > > > > Silly! > > > > > > > > Thank you Crystal! Now you can see why I didn't want to shoot >off > > >a quick > > > > response yesterday. I wanted to really read what you said and > > >reply to it. > > > > So who do I make the check out to for my hour of psychiatric > > >evaluation? Ha ha! > > > > > > > > >In closing, > > > > > > > > > >Don't let the man get you down! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >With respect & congrats for your WI results, > > > > >Crystal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Hi, Becky! NSVs are Non-Scale Victories, like fitting into new (smaller) clothes, receiving compliments, realizing you now understand what it means to eat only until you are satisfied... a whole huge list of accomplishments that have nothing to do with the numbers on the scale. Hope that helps -- JB -- In Serious-Weight-Watchers , Rebicat@a... wrote: > Hi Everyone- What are NSV's? > Thanks! > Becky > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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