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Hi Guys,

i'm doing very well. hardly any pain from the beginning except where I

pulled/tore a stomach muscle. I'm very tired at times, then again i feel

like i can climb a mountain. For those wondering...no, this is not

depression, just my body adjusting post-op. I have to be very careful

not to over-do when I'm feeling really good.

The hospital bed was pretty rough on my back and i'm recouping from

that.

All the incisions are healing without any problems and i slept in my bed

for the first time last night (except for getting twice for bathroom).

Overall I'm doing good and hope to be able to post a detailed report

soon. Thanks for thinking of me.

I am cross-posting to save energy,sorry.

Peace and Health To All,

TJ

LAP BPD/DS

Dr. Dennis /Marietta,GA

www.ObesitySurgeryCenter.com

Feburary 16, 2001

Pre-Op 316.5

2/23/01 -14lbs

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TJ,

No problem on the cross posting I definately know what you mean about

needig to save energy. I still have days where just taking a shower is

exhausting. I am so glad to hear no major complications for you. Take

care and take your time recooperating. I can honestly say this is the

first week I am feeling almost back to normal. so it does take time.

Hey the 14 lb weight loss is not too shabby either. Keep up the great

work :>)

Vera- Lansdale,Pa

Bmi-61

Dr. Herron / Dr. Pomp assisting @ Mt. Sinai, New York

Open BPD/DS done 01/26/01

PCP scale 4 weeks out -30lbs gone forever as of 2/21/01

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Hey everyone!

Don't know if you remember me posting earlier, its JJ, I am having the

Duodenal switch on March 13th. I received some pre-op papers and

since it was past time to call the Doc... I am hoping you might know what

it means.. on a special procedures he has *Central line in jugular*

And if you know what that means do you know why it might be required?

Thanks!!

JJ

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JJ, A central line is a type of IV and they are going to put it in a vein in your neck, the jugular vein. This is quite common with major surgery. It is a big vein and easily accessed. Usually the anesthesiologist puts that in before surgery. Hope this helps. Sandy C., RN

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> i highly reccomend the Central line in the jugular. I was the only

ee, who for some reason did not have a central line, and I wish

I had. It is inserted while you are under and then when you wake up

all your meds go throuogh the central line so they won't have to fuss

with an IV or stick you for blood. My veins are awful and they kept

loosinfg the IV and the special IV team would have to be called in

and they had a terrible time too. At one point they were going to

start a central line while I was awake, but I sais no way.

Alyssa

> Hey everyone! Don't know if you remember me posting earlier, its

JJ, I am

> having the Duodenal switch on March 13th. I received some pre-op

papers and

> since it was past time to call the Doc... I am hoping you might

know what it

> means.. on a special procedures he has *Central line in jugular*

And if you

> know what that means do you know why it might be required? Thanks!!

>

> JJ

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>on a special procedures he has *Central line in jugular*

And if you

> know what that means do you know why it might be required?

JJ-

A central line is usually put in in order to give high-volume IV

fluids, certain IV antibiotics, and for the nurses to draw blood out

of so that you don't get stuck for every test. It is a large bore (14

or 16 gauge, I think) IV line that goes directly into your heart. It

is usually put in after you have been anesthetised, but occasionally

it is done in the patient's room. In your case, I doubt it would be

done in-room. I think it may be a " just in case " deal, so that if he

decides he needs it, he already has a consent. Some people love

centrals, especially if they are hard sticks. Others hate them, but

its a personal preference deal. Talk to your doctor if you are not

sure about this, & make sure he answers your questions.

Best luck on your surgery!

{{Hugs}}

Liane

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In a message dated 3/1/01 4:26:23 AM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< > i highly reccomend the Central line in the jugular. I was the only

ee, who for some reason did not have a central line, and I wish

I had. It is inserted while you are under and then when you wake up

all your meds go throuogh the central line so they won't have to fuss

with an IV or stick you for blood. My veins are awful and they kept

loosinfg the IV and the special IV team would have to be called in

and they had a terrible time too. At one point they were going to

start a central line while I was awake, but I sais no way.

>>

{{{{Alyssa}}}} Sorry to hear about your experience. I, too, have pretty

weak veins that are difficult to find and also don't last too long. :( I

asked

about a central line before my surgery, but the anesthesiologist said I

wouldn't

need one. Thank God, he was correct! :) He said that they would only take

blood once or twice post-op, which was true. I only got blood taken two

times within the first 24 hours post-op.

They were able to get the iv in without problem and put me under. I think one

factor that really helped with this is that I kept myself super HYPER HYDRATED

before the surgery. I never thought I'd see the end of that steady stream of

pee! LOL I've read that veins can collapse or be more difficult to locate

when

people are deyhdrated, so that seemed to work for me.

However, my vein did 'pop' about 12 hours after surgery and started leaking.

I called the midnight nurse in and asked that she re-insert it. She did, but

the vein popped immediately. She called the resident and he said to be put

me on oral meds (crushed Percocet). I was worried that my new stomach

wouldn't be able to process it or that I'd have a reaction but I didn't have

any

problems at all. Of course, I missed my pump, especially when I'd only been

on it for such a short time, but the Percocet worked fine for me. :)

It isn't a routine procedure at Mt. Sinai, but I do know some people who have

had it when they experienced complications/second surgeries from

leaks/blockages/etc. I guess it is used more often at Mt. Sinai as a

procedure for those who will be on the iv for extended periods of time?

all the best,

laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal

Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC

January 25, 2001

35 days post-op and still feelin' fab and a little less tired! :)

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I really liked having my central line. It didn't interfere with my using my

arms, wrists and hands to help me move myself in the bed and grab on to stuff to

help me sit up, too. Unfortunately, they told me that they never leave central

lines in more than two or three days because they tend to get infected easily.

So, out mine came at three days, and then I had to endure all the poking and

hunting for an acceptable peripheral site. Even when they got one started, it

would leak in a few hours and then they had to do it all over again! I sure

missed that central line for the rest of my hospital stay.

Joy Frost Age: 48

Open DS with Welker

Date: 2-5-01

Weight at time of surgery: 255 lbs BMI: 48.2

Weight as of 2-23-01: 244 BMI: 46.2 (-11 lbs)

(I don't have a scale at our temporary apartment so I can only weigh at OHSU!)

http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joy/joy.html

Re: Vera in PA, Kris and ees

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> > i highly reccomend the Central line in the jugular. I was the only

> ee, who for some reason did not have a central line, and I wish

> I had. It is inserted while you are under and then when you wake up

> all your meds go throuogh the central line so they won't have to fuss

> with an IV or stick you for blood. My veins are awful and they kept

> loosinfg the IV and the special IV team would have to be called in

> and they had a terrible time too. At one point they were going to

> start a central line while I was awake, but I sais no way.

> Alyssa

> > Hey everyone! Don't know if you remember me posting earlier, its

> JJ, I am

> > having the Duodenal switch on March 13th. I received some pre-op

> papers and

> > since it was past time to call the Doc... I am hoping you might

> know what it

> > means.. on a special procedures he has *Central line in jugular*

> And if you

> > know what that means do you know why it might be required? Thanks!!

> >

> > JJ

>

>

>

>

>

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That is odd because the whole point of the central line is that it can

remain in a patient for an extended period of time without the vein collapsing.

At 12:36 PM 3/3/2001 -0800, you wrote:

>I really liked having my central line. It didn't interfere with my using

>my arms, wrists and hands to help me move myself in the bed and grab on to

>stuff to help me sit up, too. Unfortunately, they told me that they never

>leave central lines in more than two or three days because they tend to

>get infected easily. So, out mine came at three days, and then I had to

>endure all the poking and hunting for an acceptable peripheral site. Even

>when they got one started, it would leak in a few hours and then they had

>to do it all over again! I sure missed that central line for the rest of

>my hospital stay.

>

>Joy Frost Age: 48

>Open DS with Welker

>Date: 2-5-01

>Weight at time of surgery: 255 lbs BMI: 48.2

>Weight as of 2-23-01: 244 BMI: 46.2 (-11 lbs)

>(I don't have a scale at our temporary apartment so I can only weigh at OHSU!)

>http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joy/joy.html

>

>

> Re: Vera in PA, Kris and ees

>

>

> >

> > > i highly reccomend the Central line in the jugular. I was the only

> > ee, who for some reason did not have a central line, and I wish

> > I had. It is inserted while you are under and then when you wake up

> > all your meds go throuogh the central line so they won't have to fuss

> > with an IV or stick you for blood. My veins are awful and they kept

> > loosinfg the IV and the special IV team would have to be called in

> > and they had a terrible time too. At one point they were going to

> > start a central line while I was awake, but I sais no way.

> > Alyssa

> > > Hey everyone! Don't know if you remember me posting earlier, its

> > JJ, I am

> > > having the Duodenal switch on March 13th. I received some pre-op

> > papers and

> > > since it was past time to call the Doc... I am hoping you might

> > know what it

> > > means.. on a special procedures he has *Central line in jugular*

> > And if you

> > > know what that means do you know why it might be required? Thanks!!

> > >

> > > JJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I too thought this was odd.. on my floor, central lines stay in until

the patient is discharged or the ports stop drawing. We change the

dressings using sterile technique every other day, & if a port is

accessed, the cap is replaced with a new disposable one. We had a

meeting with infection control, & for the previous 9 months, we had 1

hospital-acquired infection that was traced to improper care of a

central line. We use central lines because transplant patients are on

a small daily dose of prednisone, which makes their veins very

fragile. Peripheral IVs don't last more than 2-4 days, & these poor

folk don't have many " good " veins to start IVs in that are left!

Just my .02,

Liane

Unfortunately, they told me that

they never

> >leave central lines in more than two or three days because they

tend to

> >get infected easily.

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Actually, the central line is inserted into the jugular vein, not

directly into the heart. It is a relatively common procedure and an

excellent solution for us overweight people whose arm veins tend to

be harder to access.

> >on a special procedures he has *Central line in jugular*

> And if you

> > know what that means do you know why it might be required?

>

> JJ-

> A central line is usually put in in order to give high-volume IV

> fluids, certain IV antibiotics, and for the nurses to draw blood

out

> of so that you don't get stuck for every test. It is a large bore

(14

> or 16 gauge, I think) IV line that goes directly into your heart.

It

> is usually put in after you have been anesthetised, but

occasionally

> it is done in the patient's room. In your case, I doubt it would be

> done in-room. I think it may be a " just in case " deal, so that if

he

> decides he needs it, he already has a consent. Some people love

> centrals, especially if they are hard sticks. Others hate them, but

> its a personal preference deal. Talk to your doctor if you are not

> sure about this, & make sure he answers your questions.

> Best luck on your surgery!

> {{Hugs}}

> Liane

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The end of the central line lies just outside of the heart if done

correctly :o).

At 01:02 PM 3/5/01 +0000, you wrote:

>Actually, the central line is inserted into the jugular vein, not

>directly into the heart. It is a relatively common procedure and an

>excellent solution for us overweight people whose arm veins tend to

>be harder to access.

>

>

> > >on a special procedures he has *Central line in jugular*

> > And if you

> > > know what that means do you know why it might be required?

> >

> > JJ-

> > A central line is usually put in in order to give high-volume IV

> > fluids, certain IV antibiotics, and for the nurses to draw blood

>out

> > of so that you don't get stuck for every test. It is a large bore

>(14

> > or 16 gauge, I think) IV line that goes directly into your heart.

>It

> > is usually put in after you have been anesthetised, but

>occasionally

> > it is done in the patient's room. In your case, I doubt it would be

> > done in-room. I think it may be a " just in case " deal, so that if

>he

> > decides he needs it, he already has a consent. Some people love

> > centrals, especially if they are hard sticks. Others hate them, but

> > its a personal preference deal. Talk to your doctor if you are not

> > sure about this, & make sure he answers your questions.

> > Best luck on your surgery!

> > {{Hugs}}

> > Liane

>

>

>

>

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