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My favorite cup is made by Tupperware. Can't squeeze it but completely

leak proof and they take up little space in the cabinet. I think they sell

those bears in the Sara catalogue btw.

You all have me very concerned about packaging. I don't think you can

buy rice milk that doesn't come in the juice box kind of packaging.

Barb

<< Are those the bears with the yellow top that closes? I did get a couple

of those from our ST, and they are great as you can travel with them too. My

older son won't use them, (too babyish), but they are great for the little

ones.

Kathy

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My favorite cup is made by Tupperware. Can't squeeze it but completely

leak proof and they take up little space in the cabinet. I think they sell

those bears in the Sara catalogue btw.

You all have me very concerned about packaging. I don't think you can

buy rice milk that doesn't come in the juice box kind of packaging.

Barb

<< Are those the bears with the yellow top that closes? I did get a couple

of those from our ST, and they are great as you can travel with them too. My

older son won't use them, (too babyish), but they are great for the little

ones.

Kathy

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In a message dated 2/21/01 4:19:57 PM, BarbStrate writes:

<< I think they sell those bears in the Sara catalogue btw. >>

Ooops, I see Purnima already said that - sorry

My favorite cup is made by Tupperware. Can't squeeze it but completely

leak proof and they take up little space in the cabinet. I think they sell

those bears in the Sara catalogue btw.

You all have me very concerned about packaging. I don't think you can

buy rice milk that doesn't come in the juice box kind of packaging.

Barb

<< Are those the bears with the yellow top that closes? I did get a couple

of those from our ST, and they are great as you can travel with them too. My

older son won't use them, (too babyish), but they are great for the little

ones.

Kathy

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In a message dated 2/21/01 4:19:57 PM, BarbStrate writes:

<< I think they sell those bears in the Sara catalogue btw. >>

Ooops, I see Purnima already said that - sorry

My favorite cup is made by Tupperware. Can't squeeze it but completely

leak proof and they take up little space in the cabinet. I think they sell

those bears in the Sara catalogue btw.

You all have me very concerned about packaging. I don't think you can

buy rice milk that doesn't come in the juice box kind of packaging.

Barb

<< Are those the bears with the yellow top that closes? I did get a couple

of those from our ST, and they are great as you can travel with them too. My

older son won't use them, (too babyish), but they are great for the little

ones.

Kathy

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Are those the bears with the yellow top that closes? I did get a couple of those from our ST, and they are great as you can travel with them too. My older son won't use them, (too babyish), but they are great for the little ones.

Kathy

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Hi Kathy,

I bought honey bear bottles from a company bee-commerce.com. They are $8.50 for 12/pack. These bottles are squeezable. I then cut off the tip just enough to slide in a piece of oxygen tubing (I have plenty if you wanted it). Length of the oxygen tubing extends from the base of the bottle to whatever you like above the cap. The tubing must fit snugly so that there is no leakage from the hole and the cap. I now can squeeze the liquids to get a start. It is working out great. You can see a picture of the same at the Sara site. Except that this works out a bit cheaper. You can even use ketchup and mustard bottles from the 99 cent store but I question their plastic. Good Luck Purnima Mosaic meets the 2nd Thursday morning (Paramus Park Food Court) and the 3rd Wednesday evening (The Arc in Hackensack) of every month. All are welcome.

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Barb and all,

I never thought about what the rice milk boxes are made from. I called Trader Joe's and was told that their rice milk is boxed by Aseptic Packaging and that the "tetrabrik" and "tetrapak" packages are made with six layers of aluminum and polyethylene, with polyethylene being the layer coming into contact w/ the milk product. She did not know of any random tests to determine if the chemicals actually leach into the milk, but she did say that the packaging for the milk products is air tight, and the milk is pastuerized and homogenized, which is not done with juice box juices. Apparently juices don't go through the rigorous sterilizing process that rice milk does, and the packaging is not airtight. I will try to contact Aseptic Packaging and see if anyone there has looked at contamination of chemicals and metals into milk from the containers they produce.

Kathy

BTW, I heard on the news today that Barbie sunglasses are being recalled for some highly toxic chemical leaking from them.

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Thanks...I'll check it out...Do you use these with ? We still use Playtex "sippy cups" and Tupperware cups with lid to use to straw with, they are pretty much leak proof and you can use whatever straw you like.

Debby

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Thanks...I'll check it out...Do you use these with ? We still use Playtex "sippy cups" and Tupperware cups with lid to use to straw with, they are pretty much leak proof and you can use whatever straw you like.

Debby

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Debbie-

We only use the Tupperware cups. I love them. And yes, you can use any

straw with them which seems more sanitary. You might want to consider

phasing out the sippy cups completely. They are very bad for speech as are

juice boxes though I have to admit we were using those. You should probably

get rid of all the baby type cups that allow the children to continue to suck

like babies. (From what I understand sucking evolves as the children get

older) You should also work on having the child drink from a cup without a

straw. We were recently at a children's birthday party at a kid's party

place and there were no straws provided for the drinks. The kids were

drinking out of paper cups. What a relief that was fine and has

mastered this skill (as silly as it sounds) and did not stick out with her

baby cup when it wasn't necessary that she use one.

Barb

<< Thanks...I'll check it out...Do you use these with ? We still use

Playtex " sippy cups " and Tupperware cups with lid to use to straw with, they

are pretty much leak proof and you can use whatever straw you like.

Debby

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I've have been hesitant to phase out the sippy cups, because of the supplements we put in them, but you are right...its time. Hey what the heck, we're potty training we might as well teach the proper use of a cup.

Thanks, Debby

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Aren't the Tupperware cups okay for the supplements since you can't see or

smell what is in the cup? Just wondering in case we decide to go the Cartaxo

route.

Barb

<< I've have been hesitant to phase out the sippy cups, because of the

supplements we put in them, but you are right...its time. Hey what the heck,

we're potty training we might as well teach the proper use of a cup.

Thanks, Debby

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Aren't the Tupperware cups okay for the supplements since you can't see or

smell what is in the cup? Just wondering in case we decide to go the Cartaxo

route.

Barb

<< I've have been hesitant to phase out the sippy cups, because of the

supplements we put in them, but you are right...its time. Hey what the heck,

we're potty training we might as well teach the proper use of a cup.

Thanks, Debby

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Aren't the Tupperware cups okay for the supplements since you can't see or

smell what is in the cup? Just wondering in case we decide to go the Cartaxo

route.

Barb

<< I've have been hesitant to phase out the sippy cups, because of the

supplements we put in them, but you are right...its time. Hey what the heck,

we're potty training we might as well teach the proper use of a cup.

Thanks, Debby

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Kathy, Please get Barbie some DMSA so we can do a challange test... Heidi juice boxes Barb and all, I never thought about what the rice milk boxes are made from. I called Trader Joe's and was told that their rice milk is boxed by Aseptic Packaging and that the "tetrabrik" and "tetrapak" packages are made with six layers of aluminum and polyethylene, with polyethylene being the layer coming into contact w/ the milk product. She did not know of any random tests to determine if the chemicals actually leach into the milk, but she did say that the packaging for the milk products is air tight, and the milk is pastuerized and homogenized, which is not done with juice box juices. Apparently juices don't go through the rigorous sterilizing process that rice milk does, and the packaging is not airtight. I will try to contact Aseptic Packaging and see if anyone there has looked at contamination of chemicals and metals into milk from the containers they produce. Kathy BTW, I heard on the news today that Barbie sunglasses are being recalled for some highly toxic chemical leaking from them. Mosaic meets the 2nd Thursday morning (Paramus Park Food Court) and the 3rd Wednesday evening (The Arc in Hackensack) of every month. All are welcome.

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Aren't the Tupperware cups okay for the supplements since you can't see or

smell what is in the cup? Just wondering in case we decide to go the

Cartaxo

route.

Barb

<< I've have been hesitant to phase out the sippy cups, because of the

supplements we put in them, but you are right...its time. Hey what the

heck,

we're potty training we might as well teach the proper use of a cup.

Thanks, Debby

>>

We were hooked on the sippy cups too. My daughter wouldn't drink juice from

anything but a sippy cup and they're so nice because of the spilling issue.

However, recently our speech therapist has said to get rid of the sippy cup

because of oral motor issues. It took a while, but now she's okay with it.

Jane

Mosaic meets the 2nd Thursday morning (Paramus Park Food Court) and the 3rd

Wednesday evening (The Arc in Hackensack) of every month. All are welcome.

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Re: Juice Boxes

Aren't the Tupperware cups okay for the supplements since you can't see or

smell what is in the cup? Just wondering in case we decide to go the

Cartaxo

route.

Barb

<< I've have been hesitant to phase out the sippy cups, because of the

supplements we put in them, but you are right...its time. Hey what the

heck,

we're potty training we might as well teach the proper use of a cup.

Thanks, Debby

>>

We were hooked on the sippy cups too. My daughter wouldn't drink juice from

anything but a sippy cup and they're so nice because of the spilling issue.

However, recently our speech therapist has said to get rid of the sippy cup

because of oral motor issues. It took a while, but now she's okay with it.

Jane

Mosaic meets the 2nd Thursday morning (Paramus Park Food Court) and the 3rd

Wednesday evening (The Arc in Hackensack) of every month. All are welcome.

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Oh I keep forgetting that many of you guys just have little babies......

The teddy bear cup that Purnima has described would be most helpful.

Anything but those sippy cups. The containers that have the pop up top (I

remember they were called sports cups?) aren't any good ether. I've been

told you will just prolong speech and articulation problems with all of these.

To transition we took a Playtex travel sippy cup - the ones where

the sipper folds down. If you get the one for younger children it will only

have one hole. Then I drilled into the hole to make the opening just a

little wider. We were able to force a straw into it and at the time

couldn't pull it out. She still had the sippy cup but we were forcing her to

drink appropriately. It worked very well until we found the Tupperware cups

which were better. At that point she didn't care about the sippy cup anymore.

You probably know that a good way to teach straw drinking is to put the

straw in liquid and plug up one end to hold the liquid. Put the open end of

the straw in the child's mouth and let a bit drip out. Eventually they will

get the knack of sucking the fluid out and this will help them exercise the

muscles that are different from bottle and sippy cup drinking muscles.

<< Barb:

Also, we were told by Brideson, that the sippy cups don't let the tongue

muscle strengthen(sp?). We were advised to try and get rid of this cup,

along with the pacifier, as soon as possible. Of course can't sip a

straw yet so this may take alittle while!

Dawn

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Oh I keep forgetting that many of you guys just have little babies......

The teddy bear cup that Purnima has described would be most helpful.

Anything but those sippy cups. The containers that have the pop up top (I

remember they were called sports cups?) aren't any good ether. I've been

told you will just prolong speech and articulation problems with all of these.

To transition we took a Playtex travel sippy cup - the ones where

the sipper folds down. If you get the one for younger children it will only

have one hole. Then I drilled into the hole to make the opening just a

little wider. We were able to force a straw into it and at the time

couldn't pull it out. She still had the sippy cup but we were forcing her to

drink appropriately. It worked very well until we found the Tupperware cups

which were better. At that point she didn't care about the sippy cup anymore.

You probably know that a good way to teach straw drinking is to put the

straw in liquid and plug up one end to hold the liquid. Put the open end of

the straw in the child's mouth and let a bit drip out. Eventually they will

get the knack of sucking the fluid out and this will help them exercise the

muscles that are different from bottle and sippy cup drinking muscles.

<< Barb:

Also, we were told by Brideson, that the sippy cups don't let the tongue

muscle strengthen(sp?). We were advised to try and get rid of this cup,

along with the pacifier, as soon as possible. Of course can't sip a

straw yet so this may take alittle while!

Dawn

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Oh I keep forgetting that many of you guys just have little babies......

The teddy bear cup that Purnima has described would be most helpful.

Anything but those sippy cups. The containers that have the pop up top (I

remember they were called sports cups?) aren't any good ether. I've been

told you will just prolong speech and articulation problems with all of these.

To transition we took a Playtex travel sippy cup - the ones where

the sipper folds down. If you get the one for younger children it will only

have one hole. Then I drilled into the hole to make the opening just a

little wider. We were able to force a straw into it and at the time

couldn't pull it out. She still had the sippy cup but we were forcing her to

drink appropriately. It worked very well until we found the Tupperware cups

which were better. At that point she didn't care about the sippy cup anymore.

You probably know that a good way to teach straw drinking is to put the

straw in liquid and plug up one end to hold the liquid. Put the open end of

the straw in the child's mouth and let a bit drip out. Eventually they will

get the knack of sucking the fluid out and this will help them exercise the

muscles that are different from bottle and sippy cup drinking muscles.

<< Barb:

Also, we were told by Brideson, that the sippy cups don't let the tongue

muscle strengthen(sp?). We were advised to try and get rid of this cup,

along with the pacifier, as soon as possible. Of course can't sip a

straw yet so this may take alittle while!

Dawn

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Kathy & All,

I spoke with Pacific Foods re. Pacific Rice Milk and

they are also packaged by Tetra Brik with 2

polyethylene layers between the aluminum and the milk.

Tetra Brik's testing has shown no leaching of

aluminum into the milk. Take that as you will...My

son showed IGG antibodies to Aluminium when we

did the testing and I can't think of where else he

would have been exposed to it beyond the occasional

sip of soda. -Kathy H.

--- BarbStrate@... wrote:

> Kathy-

> As always thanks for taking care of the

> research. This certainly is an

> interesting/frightening topic and I might call Whole

> Foods about this. They

> sell an organic apple juice (which we no longer use

> because of apples) in the

> small juice boxes. Can a product still be labeled

> organic if it has these

> chemicals leaking into them after they are packaged?

> This would cast a new

> light on all organic foods which I always choose

> when given a choice. And I

> am very curious about rice milk. I never knew the

> packaging process of rice

> milk and juice was so different. Thanks for the

> info about the Barbie

> glasses btw - I wonder if they are fancy or just

> plain plastic ones that are

> being recalled.

> Barb

>

> In a message dated 2/22/01 1:18:47 AM,

> krs111@... writes:

>

> << Barb and all,

>

> I never thought about what the rice milk boxes are

> made from. I called

> Trader Joe's and was told that their rice milk is

> boxed by Aseptic Packaging

> and that the " tetrabrik " and " tetrapak " packages

> are made with six layers of

> aluminum and polyethylene, with polyethylene being

> the layer coming into

> contact w/ the milk product. She did not know of

> any random tests to

> determine if the chemicals actually leach into the

> milk, but she did say that

> the packaging for the milk products is air tight,

> and the milk is pastuerized

> and homogenized, which is not done with juice box

> juices. Apparently juices

> don't go through the rigorous sterilizing process

> that rice milk does, and

> the packaging is not airtight. I will try to

> contact Aseptic Packaging and

> see if anyone there has looked at contamination of

> chemicals and metals into

> milk from the containers they produce.

>

> Kathy

>

> BTW, I heard on the news today that Barbie

> sunglasses are being recalled for

> some highly toxic chemical leaking from them.

>

> --------------------

>

>

>

>

name=GENERATOR>

>

>

> >>

>

>

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I can't believe that my sons' high hair aluminum levels were from the

Pacific almond milk and the Trader Joe's rice milk they drink, but who

knows. I try not to use any canned food at all, including juices. Maalox,

which I used for heartburn in all my pregnancies, has aluminum. I would go

back to darifree in a heartbeat, since likes that, but it contains

vitamin A palmatate, and we needs to avoid that.

Kathy

Re: juice boxes

> Kathy & All,

> I spoke with Pacific Foods re. Pacific Rice Milk and

> they are also packaged by Tetra Brik with 2

> polyethylene layers between the aluminum and the milk.

> Tetra Brik's testing has shown no leaching of

> aluminum into the milk. Take that as you will...My

> son showed IGG antibodies to Aluminium when we

> did the testing and I can't think of where else he

> would have been exposed to it beyond the occasional

> sip of soda. -Kathy H.

>

>

> --- BarbStrate@... wrote:

> > Kathy-

> > As always thanks for taking care of the

> > research. This certainly is an

> > interesting/frightening topic and I might call Whole

> > Foods about this. They

> > sell an organic apple juice (which we no longer use

> > because of apples) in the

> > small juice boxes. Can a product still be labeled

> > organic if it has these

> > chemicals leaking into them after they are packaged?

> > This would cast a new

> > light on all organic foods which I always choose

> > when given a choice. And I

> > am very curious about rice milk. I never knew the

> > packaging process of rice

> > milk and juice was so different. Thanks for the

> > info about the Barbie

> > glasses btw - I wonder if they are fancy or just

> > plain plastic ones that are

> > being recalled.

> > Barb

> >

> > In a message dated 2/22/01 1:18:47 AM,

> > krs111@... writes:

> >

> > << Barb and all,

> >

> > I never thought about what the rice milk boxes are

> > made from. I called

> > Trader Joe's and was told that their rice milk is

> > boxed by Aseptic Packaging

> > and that the " tetrabrik " and " tetrapak " packages

> > are made with six layers of

> > aluminum and polyethylene, with polyethylene being

> > the layer coming into

> > contact w/ the milk product. She did not know of

> > any random tests to

> > determine if the chemicals actually leach into the

> > milk, but she did say that

> > the packaging for the milk products is air tight,

> > and the milk is pastuerized

> > and homogenized, which is not done with juice box

> > juices. Apparently juices

> > don't go through the rigorous sterilizing process

> > that rice milk does, and

> > the packaging is not airtight. I will try to

> > contact Aseptic Packaging and

> > see if anyone there has looked at contamination of

> > chemicals and metals into

> > milk from the containers they produce.

> >

> > Kathy

> >

> > BTW, I heard on the news today that Barbie

> > sunglasses are being recalled for

> > some highly toxic chemical leaking from them.

> >

> > --------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> name=GENERATOR>

> >

> >

> > >>

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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