Vitaline CoQ10/bad taste/rancid pills???

[Guest guest]

Hello Mitoldies,

I used to be on this list but had to stop due to limited upright time.

However I have a coQ10 question for those taking CoQ10.

I've been taking the 200 mg tablets and chewing them for three years,

500 mgs/day. They usually don't taste bad at all and I eat them with a

cracker.

I ordered a huge bottle of 500 this fall though and they tasted like

bugs or like they'd gone rancid. The company replaced them with a bottle

that tasted fine. I just had to reorder and once again they taste bad

and I'll have to ask again for a replacement bottle.

This is really a nuisance since the provider I purchase them from has to

go through the paperwork of replacment requests.

Also I wonder why they are going bad. Are vitaline products still one of

the quality Coq10 supplements that are recommended? I can't swallow

pills well so that capsules don't work. What provider for CoQ10 are the

physicians recommending these days?

best wishes and hope all of you are doing okay and hanging in there,

Beth

[Guest guest]

Beth,

Some of us use the Tishcon Q-Gel that has received stage one orphan drug

status for mitochondrial disease. Someone in the last few days was good

enough to mention that they now have a chewable Q-Gel. Here is the link

if you would like to check it out. If you decide to order, let you know

you have mito and they will give you a bit of a discount too.

http://epic4health.com/ch10chco.html They come in 30 mg and 100 mg

chewables.

I don't know of anybody that uses Vitaline brand, but that doesn't mean

someone won't speak up that does. Were the two bad bottles out of the

same lot? They also make a liquid. I hope this helps in some small way.

es wrote:

>Hello Mitoldies,

>I used to be on this list but had to stop due to limited upright time.

>However I have a coQ10 question for those taking CoQ10.

>

>I've been taking the 200 mg tablets and chewing them for three years,

>500 mgs/day. They usually don't taste bad at all and I eat them with a

>cracker.

>

>I ordered a huge bottle of 500 this fall though and they tasted like

>bugs or like they'd gone rancid. The company replaced them with a bottle

>that tasted fine. I just had to reorder and once again they taste bad

>and I'll have to ask again for a replacement bottle.

>This is really a nuisance since the provider I purchase them from has to

>go through the paperwork of replacment requests.

>

>Also I wonder why they are going bad. Are vitaline products still one of

>the quality Coq10 supplements that are recommended? I can't swallow

>pills well so that capsules don't work. What provider for CoQ10 are the

>physicians recommending these days?

>best wishes and hope all of you are doing okay and hanging in there,

>Beth

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Beth, I remember you! Complex II deficiency, right? I'll pass on

what I've heard about Vitaline from Dr. Vladutiu. She recently

mentioned to me that Dr. Haas at UCSD had used Vitaline Q10 for

trials with his Parkinson's patients and been satisfied with it.

However, she said that he does prefer the Tishcon Q-10 and

recommends that brand for his mito patients. Not sure why he used

Vitaline for the Parkinson trials, but apparently he did feel it was

reliable enough to use in a scientific study. That's all I know.

Personally, I would be wary if you've received 2 bad bottles. But

that's just me.

Take care,

Barbara

PS For sure, can identify with the limited upright time. I have come

to refer to the prone position as ceiling time. A friend has

recently promised to find some posters to put on my ceiling for

entertainment. Knowing her, she probably will. :-)

>

> >Hello Mitoldies,

> >I used to be on this list but had to stop due to limited upright

time.

> >However I have a coQ10 question for those taking CoQ10.

> >

> >I've been taking the 200 mg tablets and chewing them for three

years,

> >500 mgs/day. They usually don't taste bad at all and I eat them

with a

> >cracker.

> >

> >I ordered a huge bottle of 500 this fall though and they tasted

like

> >bugs or like they'd gone rancid. The company replaced them with a

bottle

> >that tasted fine. I just had to reorder and once again they taste

bad

> >and I'll have to ask again for a replacement bottle.

> >This is really a nuisance since the provider I purchase them from

has to

> >go through the paperwork of replacment requests.

> >

> >Also I wonder why they are going bad. Are vitaline products still

one of

> >the quality Coq10 supplements that are recommended? I can't

swallow

> >pills well so that capsules don't work. What provider for CoQ10

are the

> >physicians recommending these days?

> >best wishes and hope all of you are doing okay and hanging in

there,

> >Beth

> >

> >

> >

> >Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements

contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators.

The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content.

List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the

content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding

changes in their own treatment.

> >

> >Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who

sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the

severity of the attack.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I am glad to see ppl talking about vitaline. My understanding of

vitaline is that it has been specially formulated and proven to cross

the " blood-brain " barrier. (That is the company " s claim anyway) What

this means is that the body has a mechanism by which many things in the

blood are kept from reaching the brain, and vitaline crosses this

barrier.This is adaptive when toxins and other bad things are kept from

reaching the brain. Of course, for definite problems which stem in the

brain, like Parkingsons, if the medication/supplement is going to

help, it must get there. That is why at least some studies for

neurologic prolems like Parkinsons use vitaline, and the company makes

a big deal out of it. I do not know the validity of that claim, nor

the importance for mito people, to have Q10 reach the brain. I do not

know if the formulation of QGel also reaches the brain. I do know that

there are mitochondria in the brain, and I might guess that some of our

memory/cognitive function problems might be helped by Q10. Many

guesses still. I have only recently heard of and started using QGel

instead of another brand. It is my intention to experiment with

vialine some time in the future also. Still trying to gather

information on this subject.

I would be very happy to have people comment on this question, and

grateful for further information on vitaline vs QGel.

Regards,

Sunny

> Hi Beth, I remember you! Complex II deficiency, right?  I'll pass on

> what I've heard about Vitaline from Dr. Vladutiu. She recently

> mentioned to me that Dr. Haas at UCSD had used Vitaline Q10 for

> trials with his Parkinson's patients and been satisfied with it.

> However, she said that he does prefer the Tishcon Q-10 and

> recommends that brand for his mito patients. Not sure why he used

> Vitaline for the Parkinson trials, but apparently he did feel it was

> reliable enough to use in a scientific study. That's all I know.

>

> Personally, I would be wary if you've received 2 bad bottles. But

> that's just me.

>

> Take care,

> Barbara

>

> PS For sure, can identify with the limited upright time. I have come

> to refer to the prone position as ceiling time. A friend has

> recently promised to find some posters to put on my ceiling for

> entertainment. Knowing her, she probably will. :-)

>

>

>

> >

> > >Hello Mitoldies,

> > >I used to be on this list but had to stop due to limited upright

> time.

> > >However I have a coQ10 question for those taking CoQ10.

> > >

> > >I've been taking the 200 mg tablets and chewing them for three

> years,

> > >500 mgs/day. They usually don't taste bad at all and I eat them

> with a

> > >cracker.

> > >

> > >I ordered a huge bottle of 500 this fall though and they tasted

> like

> > >bugs or like they'd gone rancid. The company replaced them with a

> bottle

> > >that tasted fine. I just had to reorder and once again they taste

> bad

> > >and I'll have to ask again for a replacement bottle.

> > >This is really a nuisance since the provider I purchase them from

> has to

> > >go through the paperwork of replacment requests.

> > >

> > >Also I wonder why they are going bad. Are vitaline products still

> one of

> > >the quality Coq10 supplements that are recommended? I can't

> swallow

> > >pills well so that capsules don't work. What provider for CoQ10

> are the

> > >physicians recommending these days?

> > >best wishes and hope all of you are doing okay and hanging in

> there,

> > >Beth

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements

> contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators.

> The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content.

> List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the

> content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding

> changes in their own treatment.

> > >

> > >Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who

> sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the

> severity of the attack.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sunny

Q-gel does reach the brain. It gets into the blood stream to go there better

than others, because it is water soluable instead of oil soluable.

I sure hopes you find it helpful to you. It made a big difference when I

switched to the Q-gel.

laurie

> From: z39z@...

> Reply-To:

> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 12:48:23 -0400

> To:

> Subject: Re: Vitaline CoQ10/bad taste/rancid pills???

>

> I am glad to see ppl talking about vitaline. My understanding of

> vitaline is that it has been specially formulated and proven to cross

> the " blood-brain " barrier. (That is the company " s claim anyway) What

> this means is that the body has a mechanism by which many things in the

> blood are kept from reaching the brain, and vitaline crosses this

> barrier.This is adaptive when toxins and other bad things are kept from

> reaching the brain. Of course, for definite problems which stem in the

> brain, like Parkingsons, if the medication/supplement is going to

> help, it must get there. That is why at least some studies for

> neurologic prolems like Parkinsons use vitaline, and the company makes

> a big deal out of it. I do not know the validity of that claim, nor

> the importance for mito people, to have Q10 reach the brain. I do not

> know if the formulation of QGel also reaches the brain. I do know that

> there are mitochondria in the brain, and I might guess that some of our

> memory/cognitive function problems might be helped by Q10. Many

> guesses still. I have only recently heard of and started using QGel

> instead of another brand. It is my intention to experiment with

> vialine some time in the future also. Still trying to gather

> information on this subject.

>

> I would be very happy to have people comment on this question, and

> grateful for further information on vitaline vs QGel.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunny

>

>

>> Hi Beth, I remember you! Complex II deficiency, right?  I'll pass on

>> what I've heard about Vitaline from Dr. Vladutiu. She recently

>> mentioned to me that Dr. Haas at UCSD had used Vitaline Q10 for

>> trials with his Parkinson's patients and been satisfied with it.

>> However, she said that he does prefer the Tishcon Q-10 and

>> recommends that brand for his mito patients. Not sure why he used

>> Vitaline for the Parkinson trials, but apparently he did feel it was

>> reliable enough to use in a scientific study. That's all I know.

>>

>> Personally, I would be wary if you've received 2 bad bottles. But

>> that's just me.

>>

>> Take care,

>> Barbara

>>

>> PS For sure, can identify with the limited upright time. I have come

>> to refer to the prone position as ceiling time. A friend has

>> recently promised to find some posters to put on my ceiling for

>> entertainment. Knowing her, she probably will. :-)

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>>> Hello Mitoldies,

>>>> I used to be on this list but had to stop due to limited upright

>> time.

>>>> However I have a coQ10 question for those taking CoQ10.

>>>>

>>>> I've been taking the 200 mg tablets and chewing them for three

>> years,

>>>> 500 mgs/day. They usually don't taste bad at all and I eat them

>> with a

>>>> cracker.

>>>>

>>>> I ordered a huge bottle of 500 this fall though and they tasted

>> like

>>>> bugs or like they'd gone rancid. The company replaced them with a

>> bottle

>>>> that tasted fine. I just had to reorder and once again they taste

>> bad

>>>> and I'll have to ask again for a replacement bottle.

>>>> This is really a nuisance since the provider I purchase them from

>> has to

>>>> go through the paperwork of replacment requests.

>>>>

>>>> Also I wonder why they are going bad. Are vitaline products still

>> one of

>>>> the quality Coq10 supplements that are recommended? I can't

>> swallow

>>>> pills well so that capsules don't work. What provider for CoQ10

>> are the

>>>> physicians recommending these days?

>>>> best wishes and hope all of you are doing okay and hanging in

>> there,

>>>> Beth

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements

>> contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators.

>> The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content.

>> List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the

>> content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding

>> changes in their own treatment.

>>>>

>>>> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who

>> sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the

>> severity of the attack.

>>>>

>>>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

I just wanted to say that I have taken the Vitaline Coq10 for more

than a year & have not had any problems with it. I've been taken the

300mg chewables (60 count bottle)... I have had really good success

with it now that I take 1200mg a day. I've not had this rancid taste

you mentioned, I'm glad to hear the company is at least replacing it,

but I do find it a bit troubling you've had the same thing happen

twice.

Oddly, today I started taking a pharmaceutical grade Cocktail, I'm

not sure what kind of Q10 is in there & I'm a bit worried about it, I

hope that it is as good as the vitaline.... I do know this

pharmaceutical mixture (liquid) tastes PUTRID....

Chris

>the paperwork of replacment requests.

>

> Also I wonder why they are going bad. Are vitaline products still

one of

> the quality Coq10 supplements that are recommended? I can't swallow

> pills well so that capsules don't work. What provider for CoQ10 are

the

> physicians recommending these days?

> best wishes and hope all of you are doing okay and hanging in there,

> Beth