One more thing---comments welcome!! MY MYSTERY

[Guest guest]

One more thing I need to point out, and would appreciate any

comments...don't be bashful--YOU might have a clue for me!! )

I have always had two major problems, healthwise, my entire adult

life. 1)hypothyroid 2)EXTREME, DEBILITATING fatigue, achiness, and

feeling hot when I START my periods, and it takes more than a week

to return to normal as far as the achiness and fatigue. (This is

totally opposite many women who get it before they start--it goes

AWAY when they start.)

1) The hypothyroid was " solved " when I switched to Armour--I

regained all sorts of positives and renewed ENERGY---and it STOPPPED

the HORRIBLE ADRENAL reactions I would get with exercise or activity-

-pounding heart, sweating, insomnia, and profound fatigue. Stopped.

2) Though Armour did all the above, it didn't TOUCH the fatigue and

achiness I get with EVERY period. So....I see that as a separate

issue.

Now, I am suddenly having the profound fatigue and achiness NOT go

away after my last period of Dec. 2nd...I never recovered from it. I

feel the slight achiness ALL the time now. It's not like low

Ferritin. And, I crash when I come home from work. SOMETHING, which

has been wrong in me EVERY single time I have had a period for 25+

years, is now so bad that it's not going away!!

So.........I cannot feel for certain that this is " adrenal fatigue "

unless I have somehow had " adrenal fatigue " show itself ONLY when I

started my periods for 25 years!! Instead, what I am going through

right now is the SAME thing, but this time, I have NOT recovered.

Whatever has been happening to me for more than 25 years when I

start a period, is happening........but not going away. Whatever

causes the extreme fatigue and achiness with every

period........stuck with me this time.

Ideas??? Stabs in the dark?? Anything?

Janie

> I am open to what you are saying, believe me. But I didn't observe

> that I have symptoms of low reserve. I have symptoms of an adrenal

> gland working too hard during the day thanks to a very low

> progesterone level, so I crash when I relax....

>

> But...are you saying that perhaps because I have may have a

lowered

> adrenal reserve, it takes TOO much effort to keep me going during

> the day---thus the crash when I leave the store??

>

> I am going to have to do the ZRT adrenal test!! LOL.

>

> One thing that has always baffled me---I have never had problems

> with Armour, which implies that I have no problems with my

adrenals.

> Additionally, when I did try Isocort for several months, it did

> nothing for me. Zilch.

[Guest guest]

My thoughts on this is that your Estrogen is peaking when this starts, blocking

thyroid hormone and thus leaving you hypo till the estrogen fades again, which

is obviously not fading this time. You may need more Progesterone to balance out

the estrogen or more Armour or BOTH.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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[Guest guest]

Janie, my thinking is that this could be a form of adrenal fatigue.

I have had a similar problem for a long time, my fatigue and

achiness and hot joints start a day or two before my period and last

for the firt 2-3 days. Last cycle I did the Great Smokies adrenal

profile on my worst days, and the levels were lower than other times

I have taken the test. My estrogen levels are not real high, and I

get warm flashing starting this week also, so I don't think I have

estrogen dominance. In the book he talks about a case

history where the woman had LOW cortisol levels due to adrenal

fatigue that resulted in rheumatoid arthritic pain. He explains

that " low cortisol levels resulted in too little anti-inflammatory

activity in Elaine's joint and she experienced a mild form or

rheumatoid arthritis. " This really made sense to me! I had never

been able to grab the understanding of exactly what too little

cortisol could do until I read this. Another thing, do you

experience any other signs of possible infection or inflammation at

this time, for me I have recurrent sinus an ear pain. says

any respiratory problem can be a real drain on the adrenals. Have

you had your estrogen dominance confirmed by blood or saliva

testing? Because of my experiences with progesterone, I think it is

tricky to just treat for presumed estrogen dominance. The

book is really good at describing adrenal fatigue and offers many

more suggestions on how to treat it other than hydrocortisone. So

far I am having very good success with his program, but the proof

will be if my premenstrual and menstrual time is improved.

R.

>

> One more thing I need to point out, and would appreciate any

> comments...don't be bashful--YOU might have a clue for me!! )

>

> I have always had two major problems, healthwise, my entire adult

> life. 1)hypothyroid 2)EXTREME, DEBILITATING fatigue, achiness,

and

> feeling hot when I START my periods, and it takes more than a week

> to return to normal as far as the achiness and fatigue. (This is

> totally opposite many women who get it before they start--it goes

> AWAY when they start.)

>

> 1) The hypothyroid was " solved " when I switched to Armour--I

> regained all sorts of positives and renewed ENERGY---and it

STOPPPED

> the HORRIBLE ADRENAL reactions I would get with exercise or

activity-

> -pounding heart, sweating, insomnia, and profound fatigue. Stopped.

>

> 2) Though Armour did all the above, it didn't TOUCH the fatigue

and

> achiness I get with EVERY period. So....I see that as a separate

> issue.

>

> Now, I am suddenly having the profound fatigue and achiness NOT go

> away after my last period of Dec. 2nd...I never recovered from it.

I

> feel the slight achiness ALL the time now. It's not like low

> Ferritin. And, I crash when I come home from work. SOMETHING,

which

> has been wrong in me EVERY single time I have had a period for 25+

> years, is now so bad that it's not going away!!

>

> So.........I cannot feel for certain that this is " adrenal

fatigue "

> unless I have somehow had " adrenal fatigue " show itself ONLY when

I

> started my periods for 25 years!! Instead, what I am going through

> right now is the SAME thing, but this time, I have NOT recovered.

> Whatever has been happening to me for more than 25 years when I

> start a period, is happening........but not going away. Whatever

> causes the extreme fatigue and achiness with every

> period........stuck with me this time.

>

> Ideas??? Stabs in the dark?? Anything?

>

> Janie

>

> > I am open to what you are saying, believe me. But I didn't

observe

> > that I have symptoms of low reserve. I have symptoms of an

adrenal

> > gland working too hard during the day thanks to a very low

> > progesterone level, so I crash when I relax....

> >

> > But...are you saying that perhaps because I have may have a

> lowered

> > adrenal reserve, it takes TOO much effort to keep me going

during

> > the day---thus the crash when I leave the store??

> >

> > I am going to have to do the ZRT adrenal test!! LOL.

> >

> > One thing that has always baffled me---I have never had problems

> > with Armour, which implies that I have no problems with my

> adrenals.

> > Additionally, when I did try Isocort for several months, it did

> > nothing for me. Zilch.

[Guest guest]

Before my hyst way back there, mine didn't go away until well into the

second half of my period. I know that I was harboring tons of water all

during that time, until about the 5th day, when it started going away. What

I didn't know until about 3 or 4 yrs later was that I was now making NO

progesterone, and I suppose that just gets less and less as time goes on.

We know now that easing the menses isn't the only thing that progesterone

does. I went without it, in ignorance, all those yrs, until recently. I've

been on the cream for several months now, and it has helped my sleep pattern

and mood. What else it has helped, I can't say for sure, but I could also

now be estrogen deficient, as that is gradually going to disappear somewhat,

but not as much as the progesterone. Even a little estrogen goes a long

way, when there's nothing to match it, i.e., progesterone.

One more thing---comments welcome!! MY

MYSTERY

>

>

> One more thing I need to point out, and would appreciate any

> comments...don't be bashful--YOU might have a clue for me!! )

>

> I have always had two major problems, healthwise, my entire adult

> life. 1)hypothyroid 2)EXTREME, DEBILITATING fatigue, achiness, and

> feeling hot when I START my periods, and it takes more than a week

> to return to normal as far as the achiness and fatigue. (This is

> totally opposite many women who get it before they start--it goes

> AWAY when they start.)

>

> 1) The hypothyroid was " solved " when I switched to Armour--I

> regained all sorts of positives and renewed ENERGY---and it STOPPPED

> the HORRIBLE ADRENAL reactions I would get with exercise or activity-

> -pounding heart, sweating, insomnia, and profound fatigue. Stopped.

>

> 2) Though Armour did all the above, it didn't TOUCH the fatigue and

> achiness I get with EVERY period. So....I see that as a separate

> issue.

>

> Now, I am suddenly having the profound fatigue and achiness NOT go

> away after my last period of Dec. 2nd...I never recovered from it. I

> feel the slight achiness ALL the time now. It's not like low

> Ferritin. And, I crash when I come home from work. SOMETHING, which

> has been wrong in me EVERY single time I have had a period for 25+

> years, is now so bad that it's not going away!!

>

> So.........I cannot feel for certain that this is " adrenal fatigue "

> unless I have somehow had " adrenal fatigue " show itself ONLY when I

> started my periods for 25 years!! Instead, what I am going through

> right now is the SAME thing, but this time, I have NOT recovered.

> Whatever has been happening to me for more than 25 years when I

> start a period, is happening........but not going away. Whatever

> causes the extreme fatigue and achiness with every

> period........stuck with me this time.

>

> Ideas??? Stabs in the dark?? Anything?

>

> Janie