Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 In a message dated 11/30/2004 9:08:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, laineyelv@... writes: > How does ARMOUR help the body > heal? > i think by this statement we mean that hypothyroidism causes damage to the body...and it is not an instantenous fix-all within a week of taking thyroid hormone. If you've been low in thyroid hormone for 10 years and it just now shows up, it's not going to be all better in 10 weeks. Maybe in 10 months. And even then, the hypothyroid person is different than normal folks. It is an altered metabolism that works differently than other folks. Things like going to bed at the same time and getting enough sleep become very important to maintaining equilibrium and health. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 My sister had hypothyroidism to the max after her 3rd childbirth about 45 years ago. And all the worst symptoms including continuous ballooning weight gain practically overnight, crawly, itchy skin, super emotional- ism, fatigued/exhaustion, severe depression, insomnia & couldn't do much.... the whole nine yards. Finally an aunt told her it might be her thyroid. She went to several doctors who never helped her & finally found one that prescribed what I think was Armour as that's what they were still prescribing back then before Synthroid & the other synthetics were invented or pushed onto us. Tho she says she doesn't remember what kind of thyroid she was given, I believe it must have been Armour. She took it for a year & then was told her thyroid was functioning normally. She's never needed any since then & considers herself healed. She 68yo now, happy & still very athletically active & happily married. I envy her...I'm younger & am a physical wreck compared to her. At the rate I'm going with the hard, tragic life & spinal problems plus accidents I've had I think she'll outlive me by many years tho she's a year & a half older than me. So yes...some people, if young enough or with enough recuperative powers, can & do stop taking supplemental thyroid & do get healed. Tho I think a lot depends on where one lives, one's environment, stress levels, relationship factors, diet, exercise, lifestyle, age, etc. Caroline " healing " on Armour Hi wise and learned friends: I hate being away from my computer all day (had a blood draw yesterday and other things to do.) I have been steadily going through the postings, but I think I may be all day at it...LOL Here's the question: Is there any info or new thought on how to heal and what needs to be healed in the body so hypo-ism can be cured not managed? (I can just hear all of y'all laughing and saying, " If we new that, this group wouldn't exsist! " ) Red-faced but ever-hopeful, I'll plunge ahead... I was diagnosed last March, spent 5 months just listening to my doctor. I have since wised up and am seeking a solution (like all of us) not just a management program. When I asked her for the solution to this disease, she chuckled and said, " On your last day of life on this earth, you will have taken your thyroid that morning. " So off I go on my journey, completely disregarding her remarks. Tradiitonal Chinese Medicine (TCM) does not recognize hypothyroidism as a diagnosis...they look at spleen, kidneys, liver etc as the source and hypo the side effect (as I understand it.) I started a program with a local TCM doc back in July. Began feeling great, have had a " reversal " of several aches and aggrevations. By the end of August, I was hyper and being told to reduce Synthroid in half. Hooray! But a month after that, I was worse, TSH-wise, that ever. I am now on double the amount of Synthroid. (-still looking for the doc to prescribe ARMOUR, and have a new appointment on Thursday to try again.) I noticed a couple folks mention the phrase " give your body time to heal on ARMOUR. " hummmmmm, I think...sounds like my kind of thinking. Can any one expand on that thought? How does ARMOUR help the body heal? Has anyone had the experience of getting better, not just less symptoms, but reduction in the natural thyroid doseage requirement, feeling better....things like that. ~Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Shomon talks about this in her book. Something like that sometimes it takes years for someone to get diagnosed so may take time to start feeling better again. The thyroid is the master gland and affects every part of your body. Plus it takes time to find your correct dosage. Louise > > Hi wise and learned friends: > > > I noticed a couple folks mention the phrase " give your body time to > heal on ARMOUR. " hummmmmm, I think...sounds like my kind of thinking. > Can any one expand on that thought? How does ARMOUR help the body > heal? > Has anyone had the experience of getting better, not just less > symptoms, but reduction in the natural thyroid doseage requirement, > feeling better....things like that. ~Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Well I have been steadily on Armour for almost 6 years now, and I have had LOTS of healing. My unresponsive high blood pressure took about 8 months to go away, AFTER I hit a good dose of 4.5 grains a day, so that was the first year. It took even longer for my tendonitis to go away, about 18 months. Joint aches have been slowly dissipating ad all I have left now is an occasional knee twinge (could be my weight and the fact I stand all day at work) and back pain, again probably work related too much lifting too many years. Used to have VERY bad elbow, hip and shoulder pain, no more. But these things took several years on Armour to go away, and it was nothing sudden about it, I just woke up feeling better and better then realized I didn't hurt anymore! Two years ago I averaged a bottle of 400 Aspirin every 2-3 months! Now I take two at night to help me sleep which it does by easing the back pain I still have. I haven't taken any at work in months! Well the occasional couple when I have too many dogs and lifting and my back starts to hurt. I no longer let it get bad, I just take the aspirin which gets me through my day. My attitude! OMG has THAT healed! I ma boisterously happy now! My temper is almost non existent, and I am looking forward to many more happy years grooming, which six years ago I would have bet my right arm I wouldn't even be able to do today. Yes, Armour does heal, but not particularly the thyroid gland. I have no hopes of ever coming off this medication. My gland has been cooked totally by 25 years of poor treatment which allowed the antibodies I am sure I have to destroy my thyroid beyond repair. *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I have been reading as much as I can as fast as I can since I heard of this list on the Autism- Mercury List... Ding! Ding! Ding! The bell in my head just went off, although clear thoughts are rare these days. I had my only child at 41, breastfed for 3 years hoping that I was giving her immunity from my MS and everything else that had kept me sickly...then at 44 my hair started coming out in fistfuls. At 46 dx with a rare salivary carcinoma of the larynx which I already knew not to treat with radiation, chemo, or " curative " surgery and used Traditional Chinese Medicine, acupuncture, Gerson-type therapies, and other " alternative medicine " . I still have all my own parts, against medical advice. I'm glad I had decades of practice treating the MS myself and not listening to the dogmatic, trained morons, in white coats... As my kiddo got older it became increasingly apparent that she is 2ce exceptional: very brilliant and NLD/Asperger's. The stress of the last 12 years cannot be exaggerated but dealing with California schools convinces me that my grandma was right, " hell is somewhere on earth every day. " I am so stressed and exhausted it's hard to remember (memory, mental fog) all the symptoms that make me think thyroid and adrenals are waaaayyy off. In the past three years, along with menopause symptoms, I have aged a lot very suddenly and put on two fanny-packs of pure blubber above and below my belly button. The itching - especially at night - is not to be believed! I look like a monkey (or a junkie!) scratching, my shins, my neck, my scalp, below my boobs, and there. Always cold feet (since forever?) Two invisible dashes for eyebrows and the occasional long wiry eyebrow. I could go on if I could remember.... Ohmygawd! the muscle spasms and the pains in my feet and back. Magnesium is slowly helping. If this might be the right place for me will someone who has traveled this maze please tell me what a woman who is tired of being dismissed by the white coats oughta do to be restored to what God intended us to be? Or tell me where to go?? Thanks very much! Re: " healing " on Armour this is a specific kind of hypo described in the medical literature...postpartum thyroiditis I believe.... cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 In a message dated 12/4/2004 12:52:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, Cjoi@... writes: > If this might be the right place for me will someone who has traveled this > maze please tell me what > a woman who is tired of being dismissed by the white coats oughta do to be > restored to what God > intended us to be? Or tell me where to go?? > someone has probably already responded to you...but i wanted to too. first off, check your morning basal (resting) temp (before getting out of bed - under your arm...leave it there for 10 minutes)....and report it back here. I'd request a TSH, Free T4 and Free T3 and antibodies testing from your doc immediately (or get it from healthcheck.com) and go from there. Either get the doc to treat you or self-medicate. We'll help. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 In a message dated 12/4/2004 1:38:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, servingoursaviour@... writes: > With all the itching and other > symptoms... you might need to consider testing your adrenals as well > as your thyroid. > I have that itching too. I was thinking " liver " ....but is this an adrenal symptom? cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 that is usually low estrogen > >Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones >To: <NaturalThyroidHormones > >Subject: Re: Re: " healing " on Armour >Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 22:55:28 -0800 > Here's a weird question...can this cause the vulva to shrink, as well at itch? or is that more from ovary/pituary shutting down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Thank you! for taking my question seriously and for your answer... If thyroid is hard to get prescribed, chances of getting hormone support make me want to laugh... Re: Re: " healing " on Armour >Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 22:55:28 -0800 > Here's a weird question...can this cause the vulva to shrink, as well at itch? or is that more from ovary/pituary shutting down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Cindi and All! Thank you!! ....C Re: " healing " on Armour In a message dated 12/4/2004 12:52:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, Cjoi@... writes: > If this might be the right place for me will someone who has traveled this > maze please tell me what > a woman who is tired of being dismissed by the white coats oughta do to be > restored to what God > intended us to be? Or tell me where to go?? > someone has probably already responded to you...but i wanted to too. first off, check your morning basal (resting) temp (before getting out of bed - under your arm...leave it there for 10 minutes)....and report it back here. I'd request a TSH, Free T4 and Free T3 and antibodies testing from your doc immediately (or get it from healthcheck.com) and go from there. Either get the doc to treat you or self-medicate. We'll help. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 In a message dated 12/18/2004 11:27:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, cubfan23@... writes: > I have an extremely difficult time with going to bed at the same time every > night. I don't always get to sleep or stay asleep. I'm taking melatonin and > phosphatidyl serine which helps. But I still struggle with this. > > , It's still somewhat of a struggle for me at times...but much, much better. One thing I do that is a real no-no for going to sleep is to get on the computer late at night. But i haven't been able to stop the habit. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I have an extremely difficult time with going to bed at the same time every night. I don't always get to sleep or stay asleep. I'm taking melatonin and phosphatidyl serine which helps. But I still struggle with this. in Va. * In a message dated 11/30/2004 9:08:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, laineyelv@... writes: > How does ARMOUR help the body > heal? > i think by this statement we mean that hypothyroidism causes damage to the body...and it is not an instantenous fix-all within a week of taking thyroid hormone. If you've been low in thyroid hormone for 10 years and it just now shows up, it's not going to be all better in 10 weeks. Maybe in 10 months. And even then, the hypothyroid person is different than normal folks. It is an altered metabolism that works differently than other folks. Things like going to bed at the same time and getting enough sleep become very important to maintaining equilibrium and health. Cindi .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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