Re: Addition of T4 or T3--Janie and others

[Guest guest]

Hi Janie,

Thanks for your kind respond.

> What I am trying to tell folks is that before you consider adding

T4 to your Armour, at LEAST try upping your Armour to see if the

raise removes the lingering symptoms. THEN, if you find you'd like

to experiment adding the T4, go for it!! <

I fully agree with you. It is very important that we find out what

Armour does for us FIRST. My personal opinion is, that experimenting

is the only way to find out. I'll take the med for the rest of my

life, so I might as well get to the bottom... or the top.

> Over the 2 years that this site has been existence, I've seen a

few folks fail to go high enough with their Armour, still

complaining of symptoms and thinking the Armour wasn't doing the

job. Once they raised, the symptoms abated. And by raising the

Armour, folks get the benefit of the added T4 plus the added T3, T2,

T1 and calcitonin. <

I hear what you're saying, and to hear from your experience with

this group is very useful and interesting. My question though is, if

my TSH is 0.004, with Ft3 over the range and Ft4 almost over the

range, where shall I go?

> There is a possibility that you are converting, Margreet, and that

adding the T4 helped because you are converting. And maybe, upping

the Armour the way you did didn't work because it was too much

direct T3. Who knows. Don't you wish we had a doc here who had ALL

this knowledge and could give us the biological info we need!! LOL. <

I guess you're the doc, LOL. I think I'm not converting, since when

I increased my T4, (and reduced a little with Armour) I got all

those hypo-symptoms with a vengeance. Synthetic T4 is a placebo for

me. At least now I know for sure .... ;-))

Since T4 converts mainly in the peripheral tissues, there are many

questions to answer .... I know some people who have no thyroid at

all, yet, they function and are happy with T4 alone. It's a true

mystery to me.

All I can think of, is that I had a lot of antibiotics in the past,

and my metabolism has never been strong.... also, 18 milicuries of

RAI might do more harm to our body than destroying the thyroid

alone.

What are your thoughts on converting?

Margreet.

> Margreet, you had painful breasts when you were on 1/2 Armour and

1/2 T4?? How much of each were you on?? That is interesting. Painful

breasts are usually due to estrogen dominance, so it makes you

wonder why you would have estrogen dominance when you had, in

essence, lowered your direct T3 because of the lowering of Armour.

hmmmmm There is so much to learn!!<

Yes, the more the circle of knowledge grows, the larger becomes it's

surrounding area that we weren't aware of before .....

Painful breasts are a full-hypo symptom for me. The pain vanishes

when I up my meds.

> Janie

>

> > For me it's the same, I tried upping Armour to my highest limit,

> but

> > I could never get it right. There were many positive changes,

but

> I

> > remained unbalanced. Because of you I added 25 mcg levoxyl

> (reduced

> > a little with the Armour)and it made a huge difference. I felt

> > fabulous for the first time in 6 years! I felt great for an

entire

> > month. Who could believe that? So I thought, let's see what

> happens

> > if I add more T4. So I reduced my Armour even more and added

more

> > T4, since I've read some people take half/half and feel better

> with

> > that too. But that was too much of the good thing for ME ...

> hehehe.

> > It wasn't working, it wasn't working AT ALL. My body is just not

> > converting any T4 I guess. So I have no clue why the 25 mcg does

> > it's job, but it does.... and I'm very thankful to you for

> > mentioning this.

> >

> > Just my two cents for this discussion ......

> >

> > I'm still recovering from my last experiment, (half Armour/half

> > Levoxyl), severe astma and painful breasts, muscle pain and

> > weakness. BAD. I have it for 5 weeks already. I'm very tired of

> > being sick ....

> >

> > Margreet.

[Guest guest]

I am hoping beyond hope that when I see a decent doctor that some of this

mystery will be unraveled. Actually that is my main reason for trying again to

see another doctor. ONE of them has t have a clue as to why I need this much

thyroid to feel decent and I want to know why.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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