Re: Armour and weight gain

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In a message dated 12/16/2004 10:15:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,

PlaysByTheSea@... writes:

> I submitted something similar earlier but haven't received any response.

> How come the Armour is causing my breasts to swell and become tender?

> And how come I am gaining weight?

>

Armour does not cause your breasts to swell. That is something going on with

female hormones. Gaining weight is probably just the hypo...and should stop

once you're on your optimal dose.

cindi

[Guest guest]

>>How come the Armour is causing my breasts to swell and become tender?

And how come I am gaining weight?<<

Armour does not cause breast swelling nor does it cause you to gain weight. It

is more likely Estrogen dominance that is causing both. Are you menopausal or

having rough periods? Hypo can cause the weight gain possibly you are not on an

optimal dose of Armour yet, How much are you taking and for how long? Have you

had your female hormones checked?

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

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[Guest guest]

Hmmm, I believe I answered a post like this recently. Maybe it

didn't get through? Repeating what stated, Armour does not

cause breasts to swell nor does it cause weight gain. Breast

swelling is caused by estrogen dominance, as can be weight gain. It

signals that you may be on a sub-optimal dose of Armour, which is

causing your hypo to return and subsequent problems. Armour, by the

way, works as a diuretic.

Don't feel hopeless. Armour is fabulous and gives fabulous results.

Let us know how much you are on. It WILL get better. It DOES get

better. I've come from HELL to feeling like a teenager. You will,

too. Janie )

> I submitted something similar earlier but haven't received any

response.

> How come the Armour is causing my breasts to swell and become

tender?

> And how come I am gaining weight?

>

> I think people should be warned if there is a possibility that

this can

> happen.

> I am very unhappy with my appearance now and it is adding to my

> depression.

> I feel very hopeless.

[Guest guest]

On Synthroid for 5 years my Buddha Belly kept getting bigger. On Armour for 1

l/2 months, it's still the same..no difference. Haven't lost an ounce.

Caroline

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I have finally lost weight on armour. 2 months - 10 lbs. 3 months on

synthroid no relief - none

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/17/2004 12:25:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

PlaysByTheSea@... writes:

> I've been on 1/4 Armour for a month, yesterday I increased to 1/2 grain.

> But I'm nervous.

>

you don't need to be nervous. although i was at first when i was raising my

dosage. i was scared i was going to give myself a heart attack or worse. but

you'll be fine. it's just at the beginning that you feel scared. when you

start to feel better, you start to get excited about getting to your right

dosage.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/17/2004 12:28:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

PlaysByTheSea@... writes:

> How did you get to your optimal dose?

> I thought the Armour is in direct relation to the female hormones.

> Probably a week or two after I started taking the Armour I experienced

> the breast tenderness.

>

Armour is thyroid hormones. yes, all the hormones need to be in balance.

but thyroid hormone is very different from estrogen and progesterone, etc. Like

Val said, it's probably part of your body readjusting. With thyroid hormone,

you really just have to hang in there and let it do it's work and get

balanced out.

I got to my optimal dose by upping my Armour until I no longer had hypo

symptoms, making sure my Free T4 and Free T3 were in the recommended ranges, and

by

checking my basal temp to make sure it was near 98.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/17/2004 12:41:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,

PlaysByTheSea@... writes:

> Dr. Theresa Dale says that natural thyroid and natural progesterone are

> toxic

> and damaging. www.wellnesscenter.net

>

>

that is ridiculous. natural thyroid saved my life and my sanity.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/17/2004 12:41:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,

PlaysByTheSea@... writes:

> I cannot tell you how bad my emotions are and how uncomfortable I am

> in my body

we understand. we have been there.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/17/2004 12:41:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,

PlaysByTheSea@... writes:

> Dr. Theresa Dale says that natural thyroid and natural progesterone are

> toxic

> and damaging. www.wellnesscenter.net

>

i just looked at this site. i did not find it credible. i believe she is

just trying to sell her products.

cindi

[Guest guest]

when I was undermedicated, my hormone levels were well the menopause levels

but I am still getting a period. I think the body sucks dry anything it can

to keep going. My levels increased even before I added osteogel once I was

on thyroid meds. I don't know how many of us tested all hormones before and

after. Did anyone else see an increase? That would explain breasts, etc.

>

>Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones

>Subject: Re: Armour and weight gain

>Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 03:53:10 -0000

>

Hmmm, I believe I answered a post like this recently. Maybe it

didn't get through? Repeating what stated, Armour does not

cause breasts to swell nor does it cause weight gain. Breast

swelling is caused by estrogen dominance, as can be weight gain. It

signals that you may be on a sub-optimal dose of Armour, which is

causing your hypo to return and subsequent problems. Armour, by the

way, works as a diuretic.

Don't feel hopeless. Armour is fabulous and gives fabulous results.

Let us know how much you are on. It WILL get better. It DOES

[Guest guest]

How did you get to your optimal dose?

I thought the Armour is in direct relation to the female hormones.

Probably a week or two after I started taking the Armour I experienced

the breast tenderness.

On Friday, December 17, 2004, at 06:36 AM,

NaturalThyroidHormones wrote:

> Message: 9

> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:35:46 EST

> From: nc2406@...

> Subject: Re: Armour and weight gain

>

> In a message dated 12/16/2004 10:15:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> PlaysByTheSea@... writes:

>

>> I submitted something similar earlier but haven't received any

>> response.

>> How come the Armour is causing my breasts to swell and become tender?

>> And how come I am gaining weight?

>>

>

> Armour does not cause your breasts to swell. That is something going

> on with

> female hormones. Gaining weight is probably just the hypo...and

> should stop

> once you're on your optimal dose.

> cindi

[Guest guest]

I've been on 1/4 Armour for a month, yesterday I increased to 1/2 grain.

But I'm nervous.

On Friday, December 17, 2004, at 06:36 AM,

NaturalThyroidHormones wrote:

> Message: 10

> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:36:14 EST

> From: nc2406@...

> Subject: Re: Armour and weight gain

>

> In a message dated 12/16/2004 10:15:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> PlaysByTheSea@... writes:

>

>> I am very unhappy with my appearance now and it is adding to my

>> depression.

>> I feel very hopeless.

>>

>

> these are hypo feelings. how long have you been on the Armour and how

> much

> are you taking?

> cindi

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kerry and Everyone for the support.

I cannot tell you how bad my emotions are and how uncomfortable I am

in my body. The extra weight is not mystery weight, the weight is due

to the

fact that I've lost all motivation and I've got an appetite.

I also don't feel good about the fact that I have to go sit in the

doctors office

just to " talk " when all she has to do is either increase my dose or

take me off.

I don't feel like I've had very much support in this area. I can't

talk to my

family about this and I don't really have any friends that would care

to discuss

this either.

I normally NEVER use medication of any kind, EVER. So this is scaring

me.

Dr. Theresa Dale says that natural thyroid and natural progesterone are

toxic

and damaging. www.wellnesscenter.net

I chose this route because my doctor said it wouldn't harm me. I even

started

eating animal products just to increase my protein and stay away from

soy.

I am so frustrated. Not a way to be around the holidays. I just feel

like running

away...

On Friday, December 17, 2004, at 06:36 AM,

NaturalThyroidHormones wrote:

> Message: 15

> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:14:25 -0800 (PST)

>

> Subject: Re: Re: Armour and Weight Gain

>

> I am no expert, and a lot of the ladies here are definitely more than

> I, however, what I see is that you have low progesterone. It will take

> a couple of months for that to catch up and in the mean time you will

> feel WAY MORE symptoms, almost like things have gone more out of

> control. However, this is just your body waking up and adjusting to

> the new meds (I use that term loosely). I wouldn't stop the Armour at

> this point, as it does look like the TSH shows some thyroid issue,

> but, don't go by that alone, there are symptoms also that will let you

> know if you are still hypo but, I wouldn't increase the dose for

> another week, you want to go slow as your body is adjusting to thyroid

> hormones and the progesterone. Please visit our sister site,

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalAlternativesToHRT/

>

> this group has been a life saver for me and lead me to this wonderful

> group of angels here at the Thyroid group. I don't know if your mom

> ever said this to you, but, mine did.....it is going to get worse as

> it gets better! Don't give up, keep reading, keep taking your meds

> and most of all, keep close to all of us here, we are here to lift you

> up and help you along

>

> Kerry

[Guest guest]

I think you need a new dr. If yours is telling you that natural

thyroid replacement therapy is dangerous, I'd personally like to see

her put her money where her mouth is. I noticed she is a ND, not a

MD. A lot of people speak highly of ND's, but in this case, this

woman gets a big fat F from me. *pftttt*

And a word of warning, if what this dr is suggesting isn't helping,

time to find somebody who can. That's how most of us stay sick for

such long lengthy periods of time, which is so unnecessary.

SandyE~Houston

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:28:27 -0800

ATrulyFreeSpirit wrote:

> Thanks Kerry and Everyone for the support.

> I cannot tell you how bad my emotions are and how uncomfortable I am

> in my body. The extra weight is not mystery weight, the weight is

>due

> to the

> fact that I've lost all motivation and I've got an appetite.

>

> I also don't feel good about the fact that I have to go sit in the

> doctors office

> just to " talk " when all she has to do is either increase my dose or

> take me off.

> I don't feel like I've had very much support in this area. I can't

> talk to my

> family about this and I don't really have any friends that would

>care

> to discuss

> this either.

>

> I normally NEVER use medication of any kind, EVER. So this is

>scaring

> me.

> Dr. Theresa Dale says that natural thyroid and natural progesterone

>are

> toxic

> and damaging. www.wellnesscenter.net

>

> I chose this route because my doctor said it wouldn't harm me. I

>even

> started

> eating animal products just to increase my protein and stay away

>from

> soy.

>

> I am so frustrated. Not a way to be around the holidays. I just

>feel

> like running

> away...

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>Dr. Theresa Dale says that natural thyroid and natural progesterone are

toxic

and damaging.<<

That is ridiculous! How can replacing something your body normally would

produce on it's own (IF it were working right) damage your body???

Artistic Grooming

Hurricane, West Virginia

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