Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab Results

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I've spoken about my brother before, though I can't remember whether I did

on this site, maybe on the Tx site or another one. Anyway, I can still see

that stare (without blinking) in his eyes, the ups and downs of what the

medical profession was calling bipolar disorder. EVERYthing about him,

through the yrs, screamed thyroid at me, the more I read and looked.

Nothing ever kept him from being nervous and driven, depressed, then way up

" in the sky " , going cross country, where noone knew where he was, severe

stomach pain, very thin, but could eat forever, and I still believe that it

was hyperthyroidism that never gave over. He would have muscle weakness

that was unexplained, then he'd be ok for awhile. There are myriads of

other things about him that make me believe this. Trying to help others

with this is how I have grieved for him, my two daughters with this, and

myself. I've suspected my mother for about the last yr or so of having

these swings, for as far back as I can remember, but she won't listen to me

about this, as won't my sister, who had a " breakdown " a short while back.

Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab

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> on 12/5/04 8:59 AM, nc2406@... at nc2406@... wrote:

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> >

> > Dang Inga...your post about made me cry..beause I recognized so many of

the

> > same things about my Mom. Here's the really bad part. My mom was a

suicide

> > and it was totally unexpected. Ya reckon the depression from the hypo

had

> > just

> > gotten to her?

>

> I reckon.

>

> > Yea. Her autopsy indicated a fibrous thyroid with nodules and

> > adrenal hyperplasia.

> >

> > Like your mom, she would clean house at night. Her hair had been gray

and

> > coarse feeling for two decades. We used to comment on it. Her heels

were dry

> > and cracked and she had been putting lotion on them for decades.

>

> My mom usually had 10-15 bottles of all sorts of lotions on her side

table.

> The cracking as so bad, and the skin was soooo thick...

>

> > all the time getting bruises and didn't know how she got them. I can

also

> > remember her taking Ex-Lax laxative for years...and she downed Metamucil

every

> > day. I look back and don't know how she did all she did for so many

> > people...she was a caring and generous soul...

>

> That's the important part.

>

> My mom was the same way..... WHen they did an angiogram, they said that

she

> could have made the covers of all the medical journals, in that they could

> not find one reason that she should have been alive for at least the past

10

> years.

>

> They said she HAD NO pulse in her legs.... had a ruptured aorta that

managed

> to heal itself, had a severly balooned-out heart, the heart was pumping

at

> about 10% at best, no remaining arteries to her heart, but merely a few

> spider veins....that she had had a few heart attacks (for which she never

> received medical attention,) and through all this, she managed to care

for

> my dad AT HOME till his death from Azheimer's.

>

>

> >and I think she went as long as she could.

> >

> I am sure she did

>

> > Get this. In the last conversation she had with me...when i was asking

her

> > something about her ear problems

>

> My mom had the heavy wax in her ears too.

>

> > (she was having some pain again), she said to

> > me " I've had it with doctors " . In other words, she had given up and I

just

> > didn't realize the full impact of that statement.

>

> So maybe she wanted to put a stop to what the doctors were doing to her???

>

> > But ya know, it's

> > understandable. Because so many of us here have gone for years and

> > years...and not a

> > dang bit of help from doctors except a missed diagnosis.

>

> Tell me about it. Ithink I would be dead myself if it were up to the AMA

> doctors.

> >

> > But you're right. We honor our mother's memories by informing everyone

we

> > can when we think they have low thyroid....we honor them when we refuse

to

> > take

> > any crap off of the medical profession that failed them (and us)...

>

> YES, medical doctors are indoctrinated in fear, and so they hang on to

every

> shread of medical dogma they can, in order to stay in control as Gods who

> have all the answers should. (And we (collectively) have partially put

them

> there, and I think it is due time to relieve them of their appointed

> pedestals.

>

> SO, I hope that folks sometimes understand if I get a little crass and/or

> opinionated....and sometimes bring up other issues as well. (like mercury,

> for one) I really don't care too much if I am always politically correct,

> but there is a message I am trying to get accross - also, that we are

> ultimately responsible for our own healing.

>

> >and we honor them when we share what we know with others and help each

> other...so that

> > someone else does not go thru it too.

>

> Yes, and Knowing that some mistakes will also be made along the way....but

> remembering that an error is simply an invitaiton to correction.

>

> Let's always strive to seek/keep an OPEN mind and OPEN heart.

>

> ~Inga

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No, I haven't. Do you have a web address on him?

Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab

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> In a message dated 12/6/2004 9:24:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,

marin@...

> writes:

>

> > the ups and downs of what the

> > medical profession was calling bipolar disorder

>

> have you seen dr. phelps site on bipolar and thyroid...and he talks about

> combination T4/T3 therapy?

> Cindi

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You don't have to be female or overweight to be hypo. The day I was

diagnosed, after the hypo crash, I was 135 lbs, at 5'6 " tall, slender waist

and in very good physical shape, at least at that time. Of course, time

moved on, lol, but I've never been severely overweight even since then.

Just that the fat is extremely redistributed, due to not being a runner any

more. I have managed to go walking a few times, but during the time I was

so sick is when I lost my energy, and it's hard to completely restart a

rusty engine, hehe. A lot of my work on a nursing floor is physical, and you

sometimes literally get to running. It's probably the only thing that's

saved me. Right now, I weigh 160 lbs, but a yr ago, I think I weighed about

170. Hypo has shrunk my nice thunder thighs down to midget size. It's not

so much weight, but rather a change in shape with me.

Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab

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>

> dumb question, can men be hypoT? do they have to be skinny or can they be

round and

> exhausted like me (52yo F)? I'm wondering if my hubbie has this, too?

>

> ...C

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In a message dated 12/7/2004 3:43:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

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>

> No, I haven't. Do you have a web address on him?

>

this will get you started:

http://www.bipolarworld.net/Phelps/ph_2001/ph374.htm

follow is directions at the end of his answer to go to more info. he also

has some info on " combo T4/T3 therapy " somewhere on his site that is really

interesting.

cindi

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In a message dated 12/7/2004 3:46:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> The day I was

> diagnosed, after the hypo crash, I was 135 lbs, at 5'6 " tall, slender waist

> and in very good physical shape, at least at that time

dang gal...that's me too...135 lbs. and 5'6 " ...and I was a few pounds lighter

over the last 10 years. I'm starting to believe that is a major reason that

no doctor took serioulsy my belief that I had thryoid problems. I think they

have been brainwashed that you must be overweight to be thyroidal.

cindi