Re: anxiety

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In a message dated 12/6/2004 6:06:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

djrbrick121314@... writes:

> she is on

> synthroid meds. her family dr. is getting her to get a scan done on

> her thyroid, cause she has gain 12 lb. since Aug

She needs to be on Armour Thyroid. Synthroid can actually make depression

worse. The tests she needs are: Free T4 and Free T3 (actual thyroid hormone

levels) and thyroid antibodies (TPO).

Cindi

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Yes, hypo and hyper thyroid both can cause anxiety. I used to have panic attacks

that I once went to the ER for as I couldn't breathe.

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Yes, yes, and yes, it can be a cardinal feature of it, especially since some

people's brains are more highly affected than others. The hormone

resistance there directly in the brain, a.k.a., T3 starvation, is greater in

these people. I think that probably everyone who's been hypo for awhile

gets some degree of depression, but those who are having severe anxiety

attacks alsmost as the first symptoms, IMHO, are having bad antibody attacks

literally in the brain. I know, some sources say that certain things can't

cross the blood brain barrier, but I don't think that autoimmune antibodies

is one of them. I had melancholia so bad for months on end. Then, when I

went the other direction for awhile, it was anxiety attacks, and running

like a hamster on a wheel, as this seemed to relieve it somewhat.

anxiety

>

>

> I have a friend who has hypo-thyroid. my question is can hypo cause

> you to have anxiety attach.[ she had 3 of them last week] she is on

> synthroid meds. her family dr. is getting her to get a scan done on

> her thyroid, cause she has gain 12 lb. since Aug. and she feels like

> crap. I told her about this sight and when she has time she is going

> to sign on. she was unable to get an appointment with a thyroid dr.

> until Jan.

> Doreen

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Yes, I believe it, as I went through a lot of abuse issues too, Caroline,

and PTSD is a major cause of a failed thyroid and failed adrenal glands. I

think that grieving is a major issue in this cause.

Re: anxiety

>

> I've also had panic attacks that sent me to the ER. One with chest pains

tho my heart checked out fine. I just thought it was the domestic violence

situation I was living in at the time caused by my mentally/physically ill

husband. But that's when my doctor discovered the hypoT too. I've also had

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) with it.

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In a message dated 12/7/2004 10:32:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,

MamaMaha@... writes:

> Is so, then if I'm still in a state of grief I'm wondering how that can be

> affecting my thyroid now or if taking Armour will be enough? In other

> words...can Armour help me get over the grief?

i think having enough thyroid hormone (which i've seen described as a coping

hormone) is necessary for us to handle all of life's stresses..especially

grief.

cindi

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Well then you know full what I'm talking about. We can put two & two together in

our minds when our bodies start dysfunctioning because of that kind of ongoing

super overstress, can't we? So you think that grief over major life losses also

causes hypoT & related physical dysfunctions? Is so, then if I'm still in a

state of grief I'm wondering how that can be affecting my thyroid now or if

taking Armour will be enough? In other words...can Armour help me get over the

grief? Cuz if it doesn't I'm afraid I won't be around much longer & I'm too

young to die.

From:

Yes, I believe it, as I went through a lot of abuse issues too, Caroline,

and PTSD is a major cause of a failed thyroid and failed adrenal glands. I

think that grieving is a major issue in this cause.

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Makes sense, yes.

From: nc2406@...

i think having enough thyroid hormone (which i've seen described as a coping

hormone) is necessary for us to handle all of life's stresses..especially

grief.

[Guest guest]

Yes, Sammie I deserve a happy life. So do you. So sorry to learn of your

health problems. Mine are very formidable too for over 40 years now & have

been getting worse with aging...hoping to get better but can't expect any

fountain of youth miracles at my age.

I've learned many, many stress-reducing/meditational types of techniques

over those years & they've kept me alive & relatively sane so far. But they

haven't cured the thyroid related problems which have wreaked havoc on me

nonetheless.

I don't know what ATDs are or TED is. Sorry for you about that. I've got my

own physical deteriortion going on, getting worse. Getting to the point I'm

needing help with daily life things around the house & yards that I cannot

do anymore but are necessary.

And I'm sure you wouldn't want to be me either or have lived my traumatic

super-stressful life. " Surroumd yourself with friends " is a wonderful idea.

People keep telling me that. And I've never been at a loss for friends

before back in my hometown. But where does one get those friend when one

cannot get out much? Online or on the phone mostly for me these days..but

that's not " in-person " .

I really wouldn't want other people coming over to my house all the time

either, not even family, so I'd have to entertain them or cook & then clean

up after them, etc.. That's stressful & too exhausting for me now as well. I

need a lot of rest & quiet & also a lot of help maintaining here that I'm

not getting except occasionally.

So how to resolve that problem is another issue...way easier said than done.

One can't just pick friends off the trees like my two citrus trees in my

yard. Wish I could tho & have them when I wanted them. Tho having friends

when I could get out & about years ago before my late husband got

physically/mentally ill in 1995, wasn't a problem then. But it sure Is now

in this new area financially depressed rural farming area where I've been

living the past 2 years.

Basically my friends are doctors, dentists, chiropractors, accupuncturist,

their receptionists, pharmacists, store clerks, etc. And that's only if I go

to them with cash or checkbook in hand. They never come to me. I don't call

that very supportive.

Caroline

>

> Caroline,>

> You can get over it because you deserve a happy life.

> Unfortunately grief and loss is a part of life, though

> many of us have dealt with much more loss or stress

> and trauma than others.

>

> The one thing I've learned is that stress can really

> make you sicker. I was HypoT for years and then

> stress triggered me into Grave's. I was do anything

> to turn back the clock and learn how to deal with

> stress so I didn't get Grave's. Now, I'm on ATDs,

> it's impossible to lose weight and I have crazy bugged

> out psycho eyes from the TED. Trust me, you do NOT

> want this.

>

> As best you can, try and incorporate stress

> reduction/meditation or some other relaxing activity

> in your life. Surround yourself with friends who

> support you and remind yourself that you deserve

> happiness. Stressing out anymore can and will make

> you sicker.

>

> And you really don't want to be me.>

> SAMMIE

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Caroline,

your friends are here! I know what you mean though, I never see anyone from

one day to the next apart from my lovely husband and I am very, very lucky to

have him

Lynda (in the UK)

Re: anxiety

Basically my friends are doctors, dentists, chiropractors, accupuncturist,

their receptionists, pharmacists, store clerks, etc. And that's only if I go

to them with cash or checkbook in hand.

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Yep...a good husband would be nice indeed. A husband can be a friend too. But I

am grateful I've got a computer for Internet friends & their support. It's a

major blessing indeed.

From: Lynda

Caroline,

your friends are here! I know what you mean though, I never see anyone from

one day to the next apart from my lovely husband and I am very, very lucky to

have him

Lynda (in the UK)

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A good husband is all I got plus support ...friends ....uhmmmm..not

Caroline Pollak wrote:

> Yep...a good husband would be nice indeed. A husband can be a friend

> too. But I am grateful I've got a computer for Internet friends &

> their support. It's a major blessing indeed.

>

> From: Lynda

> Caroline,

> your friends are here! I know what you mean though, I never see

> anyone from one day to the next apart from my lovely husband and I am

> very, very lucky to have him

> Lynda (in the UK)

>

>

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Yes, it is the #1 most important thing that will help treat either

disease-both diseases (as adrenal problems can cause thyroid problems and

vice versa). We can take all the right thyroid treatment we want to, but

until we stop burning the candle at both ends, have faith in something or

someone, change our thinking, especially when it comes to forgiveness and

such like that, or at least come to a point where we're deciding that it's

worse for us to hate than to not hate---until we come to these changes, then

the medication or thyroid is only half the story. The things about hatred,

unforgiveness, and such have been found to be major causes of physical

disease all over the world. I think that we've all seen articles about this

in most places, even in circles where there is no religion or that kind of

thing. Even the Bible has verses concerning a particular person that say

that it " dries up the bones " . When it comes to burning the candle at both

ends, I have even seen people who had horrendous lifestyles, never getting

any sleep, keeping a schedule that looks like the schedule of 10 people

instead of 1, get thyroid disease, get it properly treated, but are still

trying to figure out ways to live the same way that they always were. Some

things are set in stone. If we continue to do this, we're NOT going to get

well. Proper physical treatment is A main key, but these things are the

other key, IMO, and of many others, I might add. Ask any psych what his/her

patients main problems are, in this day and age. We have forgotten what

it's like to live simply. We've been made to feel guilty for not being the

Super Moms, Super Wives, Super Men, and with both sexes, the most super job.

We have decided that it's acceptable to try to fit everything into a day,

and when we can't, we get frustrated. What IS that?! We are not going to

lengthen our lives ONE little bit by looking constantly into the past, or

hurrying up today, so that we can get to tomorrow and do the same thing all

over again. I say this as a person who HAS hated with a vengeance, HAS

burned the candle at both ends (for yrs), and did feel guilty because I

couldn't be everybody's everything. I did not change one hair on my head or

anyone else's by doing these things. I did not change the past, but I did

make my future a whole lot worse by getting sicker and sicker. Yes, there

were many other things that contributed to the demise of my thyroid, but

this one is a sure one. It's suicidal. It keeps us from enjoying life,

which is really the main reason we're here. I don't say to be

irresponsible, but we've got to know when to fold em, when it comes to

always looking into a deep dark hole all the time. I am a poor person,

financially, so it's not like I don't have plenty of worries, but I've

learned that I'm not going to spend my life looking back at the past, and

neither will spend the rest of my natural life constantly worrying, for it

does not good. What I did, after I came " awake " , was to go through all

these hurts, one or two things at a time, take them out and look at them in

relation to where I'd been and where I was going, resolved them, forgave,

and put them away, or rather threw them away. They were eating me up and

making me sicker and sicker. About the time I did that is when I found

these Groups here. I call that providential, no doubt in my heart or mind.

I believe that sometimes it's good to have a righteous anger, as it changes

a lot of things, and it's only right and fitting, but I no longer carry a

torch. What I think now is " Well, let's see, there must be something here

in this situation that I need to do, else I wouldn't be here, so I think

I'll look around to see what it is " . In some way, I believe that grief

teaches us how to look into the heart of another and understand where

they've been and maybe what it is that they need, or just to listen to them

and know that maybe I haven't been there, so I need to learn. Maybe there

is a purpose for our grief.

Re: anxiety

>

> Well then you know full what I'm talking about. We can put two & two

together in our minds when our bodies start dysfunctioning because of that

kind of ongoing super overstress, can't we? So you think that grief over

major life losses also causes hypoT & related physical dysfunctions? Is so,

then if I'm still in a state of grief I'm wondering how that can be

affecting my thyroid now or if taking Armour will be enough? In other

words...can Armour help me get over the grief? Cuz if it doesn't I'm afraid

I won't be around much longer & I'm too young to die.

> From:

>

>

> Yes, I believe it, as I went through a lot of abuse issues too,

Caroline,

> and PTSD is a major cause of a failed thyroid and failed adrenal glands.

I

> think that grieving is a major issue in this cause.

>

>