Re: just found out i have diabetes

[Guest guest]

Has your Dr referred you to a dietician or

nutritionist? This is usually one of the first and

most important things your Dr will do. If your Dr has

not, call him/her as soon as possible and get a

referral. Everyone is differant and a dietician will

help you plan meals and snacks and make you feel more

secure and in control of your illness.

I would suggest making an appt with an optomitrist as

soon as you can also. My eye Dr told me at 400-500 it

is almost impossible to avoid eye complications.

Exercise is also important to controlling diabetes. If

you aren't use to exercise start out by taking a walk

everday and build from there.

Do you have any specific questions?

-sunny

--- Vickie & Dean wrote:

> hi. I could use some info and advice on dealing with

> this.My levels

> run from 400-585.I just found out i have diabetes

> feb 18-2006.The

> doctors put me on 1000mg Glucophage a day.I suffer

> severe

> headaches,tiredness,blurred vision,I know nonthing

> about diabetes.what

> foods to eat or not to eat.can anyone share info

> please.Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Has your Dr referred you to a dietician or

nutritionist? This is usually one of the first and

most important things your Dr will do. If your Dr has

not, call him/her as soon as possible and get a

referral. Everyone is differant and a dietician will

help you plan meals and snacks and make you feel more

secure and in control of your illness.

I would suggest making an appt with an optomitrist as

soon as you can also. My eye Dr told me at 400-500 it

is almost impossible to avoid eye complications.

Exercise is also important to controlling diabetes. If

you aren't use to exercise start out by taking a walk

everday and build from there.

Do you have any specific questions?

-sunny

--- Vickie & Dean wrote:

> hi. I could use some info and advice on dealing with

> this.My levels

> run from 400-585.I just found out i have diabetes

> feb 18-2006.The

> doctors put me on 1000mg Glucophage a day.I suffer

> severe

> headaches,tiredness,blurred vision,I know nonthing

> about diabetes.what

> foods to eat or not to eat.can anyone share info

> please.Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Getting an eye exam is good advice, but I would not get any eyeglass

prescriptions filled until her surgars got to " normal " and have been

there for a month or two. A doctor once told me that the shape of the

eyeball changes as sugar levels change. (I think it depends on osmotic

pressure forcing water into or out of the eyeball).

>

> > hi. I could use some info and advice on dealing with

> > this.My levels

> > run from 400-585.I just found out i have diabetes

> > feb 18-2006.The

> > doctors put me on 1000mg Glucophage a day.I suffer

> > severe

> > headaches,tiredness,blurred vision,I know nonthing

> > about diabetes.what

> > foods to eat or not to eat.can anyone share info

> > please.Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Getting an eye exam is good advice, but I would not get any eyeglass

prescriptions filled until her surgars got to " normal " and have been

there for a month or two. A doctor once told me that the shape of the

eyeball changes as sugar levels change. (I think it depends on osmotic

pressure forcing water into or out of the eyeball).

>

> > hi. I could use some info and advice on dealing with

> > this.My levels

> > run from 400-585.I just found out i have diabetes

> > feb 18-2006.The

> > doctors put me on 1000mg Glucophage a day.I suffer

> > severe

> > headaches,tiredness,blurred vision,I know nonthing

> > about diabetes.what

> > foods to eat or not to eat.can anyone share info

> > please.Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Getting an eye exam is good advice, but I would not get any eyeglass

prescriptions filled until her surgars got to " normal " and have been

there for a month or two. A doctor once told me that the shape of the

eyeball changes as sugar levels change. (I think it depends on osmotic

pressure forcing water into or out of the eyeball).

>

> > hi. I could use some info and advice on dealing with

> > this.My levels

> > run from 400-585.I just found out i have diabetes

> > feb 18-2006.The

> > doctors put me on 1000mg Glucophage a day.I suffer

> > severe

> > headaches,tiredness,blurred vision,I know nonthing

> > about diabetes.what

> > foods to eat or not to eat.can anyone share info

> > please.Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

You should check with your doctor or the local hospitals to see if they have

a diabetes education class in your area. Lots of medical groups provide this

kind of services as do hospitals. Same with a support group.

Also visit the American Diabetes Association website:

http://www.diabetes.org/home.jsp While the site does have a lot of

fundraising sections it also contains a lot of info and you can find some

local contacts who may know of education classes you can take. There are

some decent multimedia presentations and other educational materials. On

the first page there is a place to insert your zip code to find local

events. On the page it brings up at the bottom should be a couple links for

support groups and informational sessions..

just found out i have diabetes

hi. I could use some info and advice on dealing with this.My levels

run from 400-585.I just found out i have diabetes feb 18-2006.The

doctors put me on 1000mg Glucophage a day.I suffer severe

headaches,tiredness,blurred vision,I know nonthing about diabetes.what

foods to eat or not to eat.can anyone share info please.Thanks

[Guest guest]

You should check with your doctor or the local hospitals to see if they have

a diabetes education class in your area. Lots of medical groups provide this

kind of services as do hospitals. Same with a support group.

Also visit the American Diabetes Association website:

http://www.diabetes.org/home.jsp While the site does have a lot of

fundraising sections it also contains a lot of info and you can find some

local contacts who may know of education classes you can take. There are

some decent multimedia presentations and other educational materials. On

the first page there is a place to insert your zip code to find local

events. On the page it brings up at the bottom should be a couple links for

support groups and informational sessions..

just found out i have diabetes

hi. I could use some info and advice on dealing with this.My levels

run from 400-585.I just found out i have diabetes feb 18-2006.The

doctors put me on 1000mg Glucophage a day.I suffer severe

headaches,tiredness,blurred vision,I know nonthing about diabetes.what

foods to eat or not to eat.can anyone share info please.Thanks

[Guest guest]

I second this information. I made the mistake once of not having my BS

under anything like control and getting new glasses. When I got back in

control the glasses where not right for my eyes and I got headaches. I had

to buy new lenses.

Re: just found out i have diabetes

Getting an eye exam is good advice, but I would not get any eyeglass

prescriptions filled until her surgars got to " normal " and have been

there for a month or two. A doctor once told me that the shape of the

eyeball changes as sugar levels change. (I think it depends on osmotic

pressure forcing water into or out of the eyeball).

[Guest guest]

I second this information. I made the mistake once of not having my BS

under anything like control and getting new glasses. When I got back in

control the glasses where not right for my eyes and I got headaches. I had

to buy new lenses.

Re: just found out i have diabetes

Getting an eye exam is good advice, but I would not get any eyeglass

prescriptions filled until her surgars got to " normal " and have been

there for a month or two. A doctor once told me that the shape of the

eyeball changes as sugar levels change. (I think it depends on osmotic

pressure forcing water into or out of the eyeball).

[Guest guest]

I second this information. I made the mistake once of not having my BS

under anything like control and getting new glasses. When I got back in

control the glasses where not right for my eyes and I got headaches. I had

to buy new lenses.

Re: just found out i have diabetes

Getting an eye exam is good advice, but I would not get any eyeglass

prescriptions filled until her surgars got to " normal " and have been

there for a month or two. A doctor once told me that the shape of the

eyeball changes as sugar levels change. (I think it depends on osmotic

pressure forcing water into or out of the eyeball).

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> >

> >There is at least a moderate amount of education required to start

> someone

> >on insulin, and a newly diagnosed person may be reluctant to start out

> >shooting up (probably an increased level of compliance with oral

> medication

> >than injections too).

> >

> >Mike

> >

>

>

> Not really. Most drs just give you a prescription and expect you to

> read the inserts for instructions or have their nurse give you a quick

> explanation and demonstration. They can prescribe Lantus this way with

> little or no explanation. They can even just give the person an

> injection in their office by the nurse to get the number down

> immediately. I had to wait for 1 month before actually going to

> diabetic education so I was on my own to figure it out. There's a video

> demo on Lantus on their website. In the case of a number being 400 or

> 500 it is urgent to give some sort of insulin to get it down quickly.

> Once I was dizzy and saw my BG was 350 and I went to an ER and they gave

> me a shot of regular insulin and had me wait there for 4 or 5 hours to

> make sure it came down.

I had an A1C of 13. So thats averaging a 350 (which means sometimes lower

and sometimes much higher) for at least 3 months. Not to mention that I

didn't go to the doctor with complaints related to my diabetes. Now, you

can't tell me that if I've been running around for 3 months with an average

reading of 350 that it is unreasonable to take a couple of weeks to see if I

respond to an oral medication in addition to trying to modify my diet.

Yes, other people may react differently to a 350 blood glucose, but that

doesn't mean a physician is wrong to take one direction of treatment over

another.

When they decided to put me on insulin, I met with one of the nurses who

spent about 45 minutes going over the process of drawing up a syringe,

performing the injection (practicing on their little skin sample) and

providing information about treating lows. (And this is *not* an endo

office).

Mike

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> >

> >There is at least a moderate amount of education required to start

> someone

> >on insulin, and a newly diagnosed person may be reluctant to start out

> >shooting up (probably an increased level of compliance with oral

> medication

> >than injections too).

> >

> >Mike

> >

>

>

> Not really. Most drs just give you a prescription and expect you to

> read the inserts for instructions or have their nurse give you a quick

> explanation and demonstration. They can prescribe Lantus this way with

> little or no explanation. They can even just give the person an

> injection in their office by the nurse to get the number down

> immediately. I had to wait for 1 month before actually going to

> diabetic education so I was on my own to figure it out. There's a video

> demo on Lantus on their website. In the case of a number being 400 or

> 500 it is urgent to give some sort of insulin to get it down quickly.

> Once I was dizzy and saw my BG was 350 and I went to an ER and they gave

> me a shot of regular insulin and had me wait there for 4 or 5 hours to

> make sure it came down.

I had an A1C of 13. So thats averaging a 350 (which means sometimes lower

and sometimes much higher) for at least 3 months. Not to mention that I

didn't go to the doctor with complaints related to my diabetes. Now, you

can't tell me that if I've been running around for 3 months with an average

reading of 350 that it is unreasonable to take a couple of weeks to see if I

respond to an oral medication in addition to trying to modify my diet.

Yes, other people may react differently to a 350 blood glucose, but that

doesn't mean a physician is wrong to take one direction of treatment over

another.

When they decided to put me on insulin, I met with one of the nurses who

spent about 45 minutes going over the process of drawing up a syringe,

performing the injection (practicing on their little skin sample) and

providing information about treating lows. (And this is *not* an endo

office).

Mike

[Guest guest]

, that's true. I recently asked my eye doctor about it and he said I

should wait 2-3 months after I have my sugars under control to have an eye

exam.

Of course, one of the symptoms of high blood sugars is blured vision. So

this makes sense. However, I was surprised to have them tell me to wait 2-3

months.

Mike

>

> Getting an eye exam is good advice, but I would not get any eyeglass

> prescriptions filled until her surgars got to " normal " and have been

> there for a month or two. A doctor once told me that the shape of the

> eyeball changes as sugar levels change. (I think it depends on osmotic

> pressure forcing water into or out of the eyeball).

>

>

[Guest guest]

, that's true. I recently asked my eye doctor about it and he said I

should wait 2-3 months after I have my sugars under control to have an eye

exam.

Of course, one of the symptoms of high blood sugars is blured vision. So

this makes sense. However, I was surprised to have them tell me to wait 2-3

months.

Mike

>

> Getting an eye exam is good advice, but I would not get any eyeglass

> prescriptions filled until her surgars got to " normal " and have been

> there for a month or two. A doctor once told me that the shape of the

> eyeball changes as sugar levels change. (I think it depends on osmotic

> pressure forcing water into or out of the eyeball).

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know you will get alot of info about what glucose

levels should be. Your Dr will tell you what your

personal target should be. My Dr has set mine at 130.

Many others are set at 100. Your Dr will take into

consideration the info he has been having you keep,

any other medical conditions you have. When you see

your Dr next he will have a better idea of how to

proceed with your treatment.

-Sunny

--- American Woman wrote:

> OH MY GOSH! That is really scary info. My BG was 187

> when I woke up this moring, 143 right before lunch

> (7 hrs after breakfast). I have been charting for 5

> days now and go back to see my doc in 2 1/2 weeks

> with the info.

>

> Just what kind of damage are we talking about??? I

> was given 0 info when I left the office!!

>

> patti

>

> Sandy wrote:

> Actually, damage can occur at BGs over 140 for an

> extended time - and each time they go higher than

> this, you are slowly doing little bits of damage -

> even for short periods. I wouldn't feel comfortable

> at all if every day, I spiked up to 180 just because

> I was back down to 120 several hours later . . . .

> .

>

> No more than 140 1 hour post meal

> No more than 120 2 hours post meal

>

> is a good rule of thumb.

>

> Sandy

> Re: just found out i have

> diabetes

>

>

> I know the group has been talking about what

> normal levels are, but you should be somewhere

> between 70-120 fasting in A.M. and no higher than

> 190 or so two hours after a meal. Damage to your

> eyes and organs can happen when levels above 200 are

> for extended period of time.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

> Diabetes homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes/

>

> To unsubscribe to this group, send an email to:

> diabetes-unsubscribe

> Hope you come back soon!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know you will get alot of info about what glucose

levels should be. Your Dr will tell you what your

personal target should be. My Dr has set mine at 130.

Many others are set at 100. Your Dr will take into

consideration the info he has been having you keep,

any other medical conditions you have. When you see

your Dr next he will have a better idea of how to

proceed with your treatment.

-Sunny

--- American Woman wrote:

> OH MY GOSH! That is really scary info. My BG was 187

> when I woke up this moring, 143 right before lunch

> (7 hrs after breakfast). I have been charting for 5

> days now and go back to see my doc in 2 1/2 weeks

> with the info.

>

> Just what kind of damage are we talking about??? I

> was given 0 info when I left the office!!

>

> patti

>

> Sandy wrote:

> Actually, damage can occur at BGs over 140 for an

> extended time - and each time they go higher than

> this, you are slowly doing little bits of damage -

> even for short periods. I wouldn't feel comfortable

> at all if every day, I spiked up to 180 just because

> I was back down to 120 several hours later . . . .

> .

>

> No more than 140 1 hour post meal

> No more than 120 2 hours post meal

>

> is a good rule of thumb.

>

> Sandy

> Re: just found out i have

> diabetes

>

>

> I know the group has been talking about what

> normal levels are, but you should be somewhere

> between 70-120 fasting in A.M. and no higher than

> 190 or so two hours after a meal. Damage to your

> eyes and organs can happen when levels above 200 are

> for extended period of time.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

> Diabetes homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes/

>

> To unsubscribe to this group, send an email to:

> diabetes-unsubscribe

> Hope you come back soon!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Getting an eye exam is good advice, but I would not get any eyeglass

> prescriptions filled until her surgars got to " normal " and have been

> there for a month or two. A doctor once told me that the shape of the

> eyeball changes as sugar levels change. (I think it depends on osmotic

> pressure forcing water into or out of the eyeball).

>

>

>

>

The important part is that a person should go to an eye dr and get a

complete exam. One shouldn't wait to get eyes examined until BG is

normal. Yes, wait on the glasses prescription but not the exam. But

not on having eyes dilated and checked out thoroughly. My eye dr said

to get a new prescription BG should be fairly normal leve otherwise it

wouldn't work. What you have described is true about the prescription

not working. I've had that happen a few times before being diagnosed.

Too bad those eye drs didn't think to tell me to get checked for

diabetes.

[Guest guest]

> For not being an endo office they seem well prepared. Mike, don't take

> every single thing in this post as directed to you personally. It is

> meant as general info for all. At least there are options available

> now that were not available years ago. In the end everyone choses what

> is best for themselves.

I don't. ;-)

I just want to point out to new people that even though some posts sound

*very* alarmed about numbers that are reported.... their doctor may be

taking a responsible approach to their treatment!

There are an awful lot of posts on this list by people who:

1) aren't doctors, and

2) don't have a full medical history of the individual

that are quite quick to criticize the treatment a medical doctor is

prescribing to an individual

There could be circumstances that aren't explained correctly by a newly

diagnosed person or other history that hasn't been disclosed.

I just think some of these highly alarmed posts (some come across as very

emotionally charged) should be calmed down and replaced with less emotional

information.

Examples would be suggesting questions that should be asked at the next

visit, encouraging them to call the doctors nurse if it appears they

misunderstood something... rather than some of the knee-jerk judgements of

poor medical care that are frequently seen.

Mike

[Guest guest]

> For not being an endo office they seem well prepared. Mike, don't take

> every single thing in this post as directed to you personally. It is

> meant as general info for all. At least there are options available

> now that were not available years ago. In the end everyone choses what

> is best for themselves.

I don't. ;-)

I just want to point out to new people that even though some posts sound

*very* alarmed about numbers that are reported.... their doctor may be

taking a responsible approach to their treatment!

There are an awful lot of posts on this list by people who:

1) aren't doctors, and

2) don't have a full medical history of the individual

that are quite quick to criticize the treatment a medical doctor is

prescribing to an individual

There could be circumstances that aren't explained correctly by a newly

diagnosed person or other history that hasn't been disclosed.

I just think some of these highly alarmed posts (some come across as very

emotionally charged) should be calmed down and replaced with less emotional

information.

Examples would be suggesting questions that should be asked at the next

visit, encouraging them to call the doctors nurse if it appears they

misunderstood something... rather than some of the knee-jerk judgements of

poor medical care that are frequently seen.

Mike

[Guest guest]

I only WISH I could get those " rule of thumb " numbers?!!!! ; )

Kris

Sandy wrote:

Hi Kris,

What secret are you referring to? )

Sandy

Re: just found out i have diabetes

Please, share with me, what is your secret?????

Kris

>

> Actually, damage can occur at BGs over 140 for an extended time -

and each time they go higher than this, you are slowly doing little

bits of damage - even for short periods. I wouldn't feel

comfortable at all if every day, I spiked up to 180 just because I

was back down to 120 several hours later . . . . .

>

> No more than 140 1 hour post meal

> No more than 120 2 hours post meal

>

> is a good rule of thumb.

>

> Sandy

>

[Guest guest]

I only WISH I could get those " rule of thumb " numbers?!!!! ; )

Kris

Sandy wrote:

Hi Kris,

What secret are you referring to? )

Sandy

Re: just found out i have diabetes

Please, share with me, what is your secret?????

Kris

>

> Actually, damage can occur at BGs over 140 for an extended time -

and each time they go higher than this, you are slowly doing little

bits of damage - even for short periods. I wouldn't feel

comfortable at all if every day, I spiked up to 180 just because I

was back down to 120 several hours later . . . . .

>

> No more than 140 1 hour post meal

> No more than 120 2 hours post meal

>

> is a good rule of thumb.

>

> Sandy

>

[Guest guest]

I only WISH I could get those " rule of thumb " numbers?!!!! ; )

Kris

Sandy wrote:

Hi Kris,

What secret are you referring to? )

Sandy

Re: just found out i have diabetes

Please, share with me, what is your secret?????

Kris

>

> Actually, damage can occur at BGs over 140 for an extended time -

and each time they go higher than this, you are slowly doing little

bits of damage - even for short periods. I wouldn't feel

comfortable at all if every day, I spiked up to 180 just because I

was back down to 120 several hours later . . . . .

>

> No more than 140 1 hour post meal

> No more than 120 2 hours post meal

>

> is a good rule of thumb.

>

> Sandy

>

[Guest guest]

When you're that high at diagnosis, 140/120 after meals can be

daunting. Also, you can make yourself feel alot worse if you try to

drop down too quickly. I'd start by seeing an endocrinologist and

going from there. I was around 600 at diagnosis and had to come down

slowly. First week's target was to get me under 300, then under 200,

and now we're just trying to get me under 160 at all times. Soon,

we'll set the goal lower. Once you get settled, you should definitely

try to be 140/120 after meals, and 70 or 80 (personally anything under

100 gives me " low " feelings, but those #'s are ideal) to 100 or so

fasting. But you really need to see an endo and a certified diabetes

educator to help you get on track and figure out a plan of action that

will work for you. Good luck!

-Jess

[Guest guest]

When you're that high at diagnosis, 140/120 after meals can be

daunting. Also, you can make yourself feel alot worse if you try to

drop down too quickly. I'd start by seeing an endocrinologist and

going from there. I was around 600 at diagnosis and had to come down

slowly. First week's target was to get me under 300, then under 200,

and now we're just trying to get me under 160 at all times. Soon,

we'll set the goal lower. Once you get settled, you should definitely

try to be 140/120 after meals, and 70 or 80 (personally anything under

100 gives me " low " feelings, but those #'s are ideal) to 100 or so

fasting. But you really need to see an endo and a certified diabetes

educator to help you get on track and figure out a plan of action that

will work for you. Good luck!

-Jess

[Guest guest]

Hi Jess,

You are doing well - congratulations.

However, you are absolutely right about the numbers, they do vary per person. I

use the english system, which says I should be between 4 and 7, and up to 10 two

hours after eating. However, anything below about 5.5, and I feel dreadful. Ive

only crashed once, and by the time I was capable enough to take a reading, it

was around 4.7 and it took another hour before I could get it around 5.5

Thats why you should keep something like glycerine tablets very close by, in

case you need them.

Exercise plays such a big part in controlling bs.

a

Re: just found out i have diabetes

When you're that high at diagnosis, 140/120 after meals can be

daunting. Also, you can make yourself feel alot worse if you try to

drop down too quickly. I'd start by seeing an endocrinologist and

going from there. I was around 600 at diagnosis and had to come down

slowly. First week's target was to get me under 300, then under 200,

and now we're just trying to get me under 160 at all times. Soon,

we'll set the goal lower. Once you get settled, you should definitely

try to be 140/120 after meals, and 70 or 80 (personally anything under

100 gives me " low " feelings, but those #'s are ideal) to 100 or so

fasting. But you really need to see an endo and a certified diabetes

educator to help you get on track and figure out a plan of action that

will work for you. Good luck!

-Jess

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