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Oh my gosh TJ, I don't know what to say.......except I am sorry you are

having to go through this. Mine are younger and they are immediately punished

for

any type of fighting/arguing behavior. Hopefully it won't come to this when

they get older.

My advice, though....neither son should be allowed ot hit the other. You

don't know which ones have it and which ones don't, first of all. you can't

always tell by looking at someone. My Ginny looks completely opposite of me,

with

small eyes, pug nose, little hypermobility....and she is positive. My other

son, who is very hypermobile, has large eyes, thin nose, etc......was

negative. I even had him tested twice to be sure their samples weren't mixed

up. So,

I know there has been no errors. but with out testing there is no way to be

sure.

Also, violence of any sort should not be tolerated. How to do this? I am

not sure as your sixteen year old would be harder to discipline, but the eleven

year old should not be out of reach yet. Even the sixteen year old should

have privledges taken away. Ginny is 18 and if she wants to live in this house

and be a part of this family, she knows she needs to follow rules just like

everyone else. Being a teenager does not exept her from appropriate,

responsible

behavior. she has privledges taken away if she misbehaves.

i don't know if this helps you or not, but you know one thing with me

TJ...... I am here if you need to vent. Take care.

Hugs,

Sue

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TJ,

I do not have any children. But your plate sounds so full. I too am in severe

pain just about everywhere. I do what I can. But no way to relax, I can't get

into a warm tub to chill out. It sounds like your children are testing you and/

or having displaced anxiety/anger over their sibling's death. Maybe a few family

counseling sessions would be of benefit with a LCSW to let them vent and express

their fears, concerns, etc. For you maybe a mild anti-anxiety agent for the

horrible days just to de-stress. I can't get out either without my husbans's

help. Please hang in there! Pain meds won't help with the overwhelming

anxiety/stress you are feeling. Just maybe a light dose of Buspar or xanax would

help. The boys acting out is another complex issue. I too am dealing with SSD

issues, more surgery, limited mobility. But I don't have children, just cats.

Maybe someone else in the group can help you more with that issue. These are

just suggestions. Good luck, best wishes, don't give up!

Sincerely, S.

Thank you for your kind words to me about my kitty!

Does Anyone else?

I know I dont say a whole lot here on the board- but I do read all that goes

through......

I am experiencing severe pain and am on quite a few medications....... which -

to me- means- I shouldn't be so miserable........ Don't get me wrong- I know it

could be much worse........

My EDS is type IV-and after all the surgeries etc that I've been through-

which the information was on my site that I posted a while ago- ( the one with

cell phone damage) ....

I am on morphine, lorcet, wellbutrin, high blood pressure pill,, water pill,

and a fewother things but must say- none help when STRESS IS HIGH....... I most

times can handle stress but once I get the stress problem out of my mind- it

goes to body parts - it seems........

My biggest stressor today is something we all have to deal with ( I think ? )

if we have kids. I have a 16 yr old and 11 yr old boy....... I can be getting

around just fine with cane/or furniture but if these 2 start in with their

bickering on top of all the other stressors- one being housebound for 2 years-

not being able to go outside for a walk to walk off the stress or even go for a

drive because I cant drive now - ugh.......... I resort to showers- web site

making, sleep to relieve stress......

What I really want to know is- does this happen to others? I can be gettin

around almost normally and when those 2 go at it, big time downfall- I am flat

on my rear end for the rest of the day as my legs and body become so drenched in

pain from the stress of their arguing and I instantly want to just close my eyes

and go to sleep but cant due to the pain....... I end up on an amigo or

wheelchair to get around and its basically from hollering at those 2.

The disgusting language they use...... they know its not allowed - yet I feel

they tend to test to the max even more because Mom is ill and they know Mom cant

really do a whole lot of damage to them ( like chase them around and force them

to sit etc )........ I am at wit's end.......

Tattling on eachother for swearing- yet swearing themselves..............

mercy..........

And my 11 yr old is a pretty good candidate in my eyes to have EDS as he is

fair skinned and bruises easily too which Ive mentioned before but he's brave-

he smacks the older one - the older one smacks him and I have explained to the

older one ( not in front of the younger one ) that he needs to NOT HIT and just

walk away- go to his room- anything to get away from eachother.......because he

could possibly cause the younger one a lot more damage than he thinks ......

Both know they lost a 12 year old brother to aneurysm on kidney - yet does

this cross either ones mind when they are smacking eachother and hollering bad

language etc......

Im divorced, live with the older child but the younger one is here often as

unjustifiably he was taken from moms care and placed in his dads care whom wants

nothing except for me to have a miserable life, even to the point of calling me

a faker etc when I even had a hole in my leg! I do have my parents - a field

away- but why should I have to constantly call for help......

What will make these 2 understand they are tearing mom apart? They see me go

from walkin to kitchen with cane to being almost not able to move and having to

resort to the scooter or wheelchair and still it does not seem to wake them up!

I asked them - is it going to take me being hospitalized or what to make you

boys see that all this bickering is really hurting your mother!

Please tell me Im not alone!

I've not said it outloud- but - when this goes on - I think death would be

better!!!!!!!!!!! And of course say to myself ( I HATE MY LIFE )....

Sorry for ranting on about this, Im at wits end and drained.......... Ive done

everything- seperating them- grounding etc.......... whats left to do beside end

up in an insane asylum.............. I have divorce/custody problems to deal

with- trying to get SSI problems- etc......... how much am I suppsed to

take.................. Thank God for my faith in HIM, if I didnt have that- I

dont know what I'd do..........

A mom with EDS at wits End-

TJ

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TJ,

I do not have any children. But your plate sounds so full. I too am in severe

pain just about everywhere. I do what I can. But no way to relax, I can't get

into a warm tub to chill out. It sounds like your children are testing you and/

or having displaced anxiety/anger over their sibling's death. Maybe a few family

counseling sessions would be of benefit with a LCSW to let them vent and express

their fears, concerns, etc. For you maybe a mild anti-anxiety agent for the

horrible days just to de-stress. I can't get out either without my husbans's

help. Please hang in there! Pain meds won't help with the overwhelming

anxiety/stress you are feeling. Just maybe a light dose of Buspar or xanax would

help. The boys acting out is another complex issue. I too am dealing with SSD

issues, more surgery, limited mobility. But I don't have children, just cats.

Maybe someone else in the group can help you more with that issue. These are

just suggestions. Good luck, best wishes, don't give up!

Sincerely, S.

Thank you for your kind words to me about my kitty!

Does Anyone else?

I know I dont say a whole lot here on the board- but I do read all that goes

through......

I am experiencing severe pain and am on quite a few medications....... which -

to me- means- I shouldn't be so miserable........ Don't get me wrong- I know it

could be much worse........

My EDS is type IV-and after all the surgeries etc that I've been through-

which the information was on my site that I posted a while ago- ( the one with

cell phone damage) ....

I am on morphine, lorcet, wellbutrin, high blood pressure pill,, water pill,

and a fewother things but must say- none help when STRESS IS HIGH....... I most

times can handle stress but once I get the stress problem out of my mind- it

goes to body parts - it seems........

My biggest stressor today is something we all have to deal with ( I think ? )

if we have kids. I have a 16 yr old and 11 yr old boy....... I can be getting

around just fine with cane/or furniture but if these 2 start in with their

bickering on top of all the other stressors- one being housebound for 2 years-

not being able to go outside for a walk to walk off the stress or even go for a

drive because I cant drive now - ugh.......... I resort to showers- web site

making, sleep to relieve stress......

What I really want to know is- does this happen to others? I can be gettin

around almost normally and when those 2 go at it, big time downfall- I am flat

on my rear end for the rest of the day as my legs and body become so drenched in

pain from the stress of their arguing and I instantly want to just close my eyes

and go to sleep but cant due to the pain....... I end up on an amigo or

wheelchair to get around and its basically from hollering at those 2.

The disgusting language they use...... they know its not allowed - yet I feel

they tend to test to the max even more because Mom is ill and they know Mom cant

really do a whole lot of damage to them ( like chase them around and force them

to sit etc )........ I am at wit's end.......

Tattling on eachother for swearing- yet swearing themselves..............

mercy..........

And my 11 yr old is a pretty good candidate in my eyes to have EDS as he is

fair skinned and bruises easily too which Ive mentioned before but he's brave-

he smacks the older one - the older one smacks him and I have explained to the

older one ( not in front of the younger one ) that he needs to NOT HIT and just

walk away- go to his room- anything to get away from eachother.......because he

could possibly cause the younger one a lot more damage than he thinks ......

Both know they lost a 12 year old brother to aneurysm on kidney - yet does

this cross either ones mind when they are smacking eachother and hollering bad

language etc......

Im divorced, live with the older child but the younger one is here often as

unjustifiably he was taken from moms care and placed in his dads care whom wants

nothing except for me to have a miserable life, even to the point of calling me

a faker etc when I even had a hole in my leg! I do have my parents - a field

away- but why should I have to constantly call for help......

What will make these 2 understand they are tearing mom apart? They see me go

from walkin to kitchen with cane to being almost not able to move and having to

resort to the scooter or wheelchair and still it does not seem to wake them up!

I asked them - is it going to take me being hospitalized or what to make you

boys see that all this bickering is really hurting your mother!

Please tell me Im not alone!

I've not said it outloud- but - when this goes on - I think death would be

better!!!!!!!!!!! And of course say to myself ( I HATE MY LIFE )....

Sorry for ranting on about this, Im at wits end and drained.......... Ive done

everything- seperating them- grounding etc.......... whats left to do beside end

up in an insane asylum.............. I have divorce/custody problems to deal

with- trying to get SSI problems- etc......... how much am I suppsed to

take.................. Thank God for my faith in HIM, if I didnt have that- I

dont know what I'd do..........

A mom with EDS at wits End-

TJ

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TJ,

I do not have any children. But your plate sounds so full. I too am in severe

pain just about everywhere. I do what I can. But no way to relax, I can't get

into a warm tub to chill out. It sounds like your children are testing you and/

or having displaced anxiety/anger over their sibling's death. Maybe a few family

counseling sessions would be of benefit with a LCSW to let them vent and express

their fears, concerns, etc. For you maybe a mild anti-anxiety agent for the

horrible days just to de-stress. I can't get out either without my husbans's

help. Please hang in there! Pain meds won't help with the overwhelming

anxiety/stress you are feeling. Just maybe a light dose of Buspar or xanax would

help. The boys acting out is another complex issue. I too am dealing with SSD

issues, more surgery, limited mobility. But I don't have children, just cats.

Maybe someone else in the group can help you more with that issue. These are

just suggestions. Good luck, best wishes, don't give up!

Sincerely, S.

Thank you for your kind words to me about my kitty!

Does Anyone else?

I know I dont say a whole lot here on the board- but I do read all that goes

through......

I am experiencing severe pain and am on quite a few medications....... which -

to me- means- I shouldn't be so miserable........ Don't get me wrong- I know it

could be much worse........

My EDS is type IV-and after all the surgeries etc that I've been through-

which the information was on my site that I posted a while ago- ( the one with

cell phone damage) ....

I am on morphine, lorcet, wellbutrin, high blood pressure pill,, water pill,

and a fewother things but must say- none help when STRESS IS HIGH....... I most

times can handle stress but once I get the stress problem out of my mind- it

goes to body parts - it seems........

My biggest stressor today is something we all have to deal with ( I think ? )

if we have kids. I have a 16 yr old and 11 yr old boy....... I can be getting

around just fine with cane/or furniture but if these 2 start in with their

bickering on top of all the other stressors- one being housebound for 2 years-

not being able to go outside for a walk to walk off the stress or even go for a

drive because I cant drive now - ugh.......... I resort to showers- web site

making, sleep to relieve stress......

What I really want to know is- does this happen to others? I can be gettin

around almost normally and when those 2 go at it, big time downfall- I am flat

on my rear end for the rest of the day as my legs and body become so drenched in

pain from the stress of their arguing and I instantly want to just close my eyes

and go to sleep but cant due to the pain....... I end up on an amigo or

wheelchair to get around and its basically from hollering at those 2.

The disgusting language they use...... they know its not allowed - yet I feel

they tend to test to the max even more because Mom is ill and they know Mom cant

really do a whole lot of damage to them ( like chase them around and force them

to sit etc )........ I am at wit's end.......

Tattling on eachother for swearing- yet swearing themselves..............

mercy..........

And my 11 yr old is a pretty good candidate in my eyes to have EDS as he is

fair skinned and bruises easily too which Ive mentioned before but he's brave-

he smacks the older one - the older one smacks him and I have explained to the

older one ( not in front of the younger one ) that he needs to NOT HIT and just

walk away- go to his room- anything to get away from eachother.......because he

could possibly cause the younger one a lot more damage than he thinks ......

Both know they lost a 12 year old brother to aneurysm on kidney - yet does

this cross either ones mind when they are smacking eachother and hollering bad

language etc......

Im divorced, live with the older child but the younger one is here often as

unjustifiably he was taken from moms care and placed in his dads care whom wants

nothing except for me to have a miserable life, even to the point of calling me

a faker etc when I even had a hole in my leg! I do have my parents - a field

away- but why should I have to constantly call for help......

What will make these 2 understand they are tearing mom apart? They see me go

from walkin to kitchen with cane to being almost not able to move and having to

resort to the scooter or wheelchair and still it does not seem to wake them up!

I asked them - is it going to take me being hospitalized or what to make you

boys see that all this bickering is really hurting your mother!

Please tell me Im not alone!

I've not said it outloud- but - when this goes on - I think death would be

better!!!!!!!!!!! And of course say to myself ( I HATE MY LIFE )....

Sorry for ranting on about this, Im at wits end and drained.......... Ive done

everything- seperating them- grounding etc.......... whats left to do beside end

up in an insane asylum.............. I have divorce/custody problems to deal

with- trying to get SSI problems- etc......... how much am I suppsed to

take.................. Thank God for my faith in HIM, if I didnt have that- I

dont know what I'd do..........

A mom with EDS at wits End-

TJ

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