Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 In a message dated 4/28/00 1:09:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, metrishal@... writes: << Liz, You have not offended anyone. Your concerns and questions are very important. Every night at 9:00 Eastern time there is a chat. And aside form all the fun some serious questions get answered. Also If you post you question here it will get answered by some loving post-op. Good luck on your journey. And remember there are no dumb questions just some that get feathers flying.hehe... I too would love to chat with someone who has had the surgery a year or so ago. Trish Lanman Praying to be on the other side in June >> Thanks Trish, Ain't it great to have support:) I have gone and chatted several times and I did find it helpful. I guess that is where I got a lot of " what happens the first few months " questions answered. Lately there has been stuff said that leads me to believe there can be later " complications " . There has even been talk of kidney transplants. All this " talk " scares me and probably unnecessarily. I feel like if we had open communication with the post-ops of 12 months plus, we would be very up to date. I'm just so shakey about the fear of the unknown. Thanks for letting me blabber. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 In a message dated 4/28/00 1:09:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, metrishal@... writes: << Liz, You have not offended anyone. Your concerns and questions are very important. Every night at 9:00 Eastern time there is a chat. And aside form all the fun some serious questions get answered. Also If you post you question here it will get answered by some loving post-op. Good luck on your journey. And remember there are no dumb questions just some that get feathers flying.hehe... I too would love to chat with someone who has had the surgery a year or so ago. Trish Lanman Praying to be on the other side in June >> Thanks Trish, Ain't it great to have support:) I have gone and chatted several times and I did find it helpful. I guess that is where I got a lot of " what happens the first few months " questions answered. Lately there has been stuff said that leads me to believe there can be later " complications " . There has even been talk of kidney transplants. All this " talk " scares me and probably unnecessarily. I feel like if we had open communication with the post-ops of 12 months plus, we would be very up to date. I'm just so shakey about the fear of the unknown. Thanks for letting me blabber. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 In a message dated 4/28/00 1:31:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, brisajama@... writes: << Liz- What I meant was don't get offended because they have there own space to go. There is nothing stopping you from reading off of their site but I believe that Dr. R got it started so that post ops would not have to deal with the shear volume of e-mail as this list gets. The people that post on that list are pretty much the same ones that post here. If you go on to the onelist search you will find it. What I am saying is that they just don't deal with the insurance issues and MGB vs RNY issues like we do. Please don't get mad at me I am just trying to help. Jackie in DE >> Dear Sweet Jackie, Of course I am not mad at you, I know you are trying to help and I really do appreciate it. Please PLEASE keep on helping. People like me depend on people like you. I am glad to know that I can go on-line and " look " . I feel like I can really hear what lies down the road. I am excited now and I'm going to try it tonight. Thanks again for your help Sweetie. Love, Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 In a message dated 4/28/00 1:31:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, brisajama@... writes: << Liz- What I meant was don't get offended because they have there own space to go. There is nothing stopping you from reading off of their site but I believe that Dr. R got it started so that post ops would not have to deal with the shear volume of e-mail as this list gets. The people that post on that list are pretty much the same ones that post here. If you go on to the onelist search you will find it. What I am saying is that they just don't deal with the insurance issues and MGB vs RNY issues like we do. Please don't get mad at me I am just trying to help. Jackie in DE >> Dear Sweet Jackie, Of course I am not mad at you, I know you are trying to help and I really do appreciate it. Please PLEASE keep on helping. People like me depend on people like you. I am glad to know that I can go on-line and " look " . I feel like I can really hear what lies down the road. I am excited now and I'm going to try it tonight. Thanks again for your help Sweetie. Love, Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Liz, I know the kidney stuff scares me. But if I don't do this I will be a candidate for a transplant down the road. again Good luck Trish Lanman Praying to be on the other side in June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Liz, I know the kidney stuff scares me. But if I don't do this I will be a candidate for a transplant down the road. again Good luck Trish Lanman Praying to be on the other side in June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 I am post op and know nothing of this other list. Could someone that is post op tell me where to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 I am post op and know nothing of this other list. Could someone that is post op tell me where to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 GO TO :WWW.CLOS.NET/EMAIL_PATIENTS.HTM www.clos.net/email_patients.htm bjwetter,MGB 12-9-99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 GO TO :WWW.CLOS.NET/EMAIL_PATIENTS.HTM www.clos.net/email_patients.htm bjwetter,MGB 12-9-99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 GO TO :WWW.CLOS.NET/EMAIL_PATIENTS.HTM www.clos.net/email_patients.htm bjwetter,MGB 12-9-99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 In a message dated 4/28/00 4:38:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bjwetter@... writes: << WWW.CLOS.NET/EMAIL_PATIENTS.HTM >> I am getting an error saying that this page cannot be found. Is there another way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Genz, Thank you for repeating that about the kidney thing. I think when I first read it I must have freaked out and not saw the NOT HAPPEN part LOL. I thought, " Oh great, I'll lose even more weight when they have to take out my kidneys. " LOL Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Genz, Thank you for repeating that about the kidney thing. I think when I first read it I must have freaked out and not saw the NOT HAPPEN part LOL. I thought, " Oh great, I'll lose even more weight when they have to take out my kidneys. " LOL Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Genz, Thank you for repeating that about the kidney thing. I think when I first read it I must have freaked out and not saw the NOT HAPPEN part LOL. I thought, " Oh great, I'll lose even more weight when they have to take out my kidneys. " LOL Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 No, that's not it at all....post ops needed a place where they could gather to ask each other pertinent questions relating to their surgery.....and not have to wade through hundreds of emails of newbies struggling with insurance, contacts, etc. Imagine being post op, having gone through all that process and then having to wade through it everyday in order to get your own questions answered when it no longer pertains to you. The post op patients are VERY accomodating, they just don't like blanket " can you be my contact " requests. That was not it's intentions anyway---the contacts are so we can ask post ops *specific* questions about the surgery. Some post ops have a pre made " diary " of sorts that they can send out if requested, but imagine having to go through your story every day after being asked generalized contact requests. I think most of them have the patience of Job to handle that every day. There is nothing any post op is hiding. Even patients that have had a few difficulties have no problems sharing their stories (Sharon A is a prime example.) It just takes a little work on our part to be considerate and ask them questions directly. fg At 11:54 AM 04/28/2000 EDT, you wrote: >They only have post-ops on? Gee, that seems strange doesn't it? We pre-ops >could gain some very helpful insight to hear all the post-ops have to say. >We could get a lot of questions answered. Is something being hidden? What >do they talk about that they don't want us to hear? > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2200/1/_/453517/_/956937453/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com >Please visit our web site at http://clos.net >Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 No, that's not it at all....post ops needed a place where they could gather to ask each other pertinent questions relating to their surgery.....and not have to wade through hundreds of emails of newbies struggling with insurance, contacts, etc. Imagine being post op, having gone through all that process and then having to wade through it everyday in order to get your own questions answered when it no longer pertains to you. The post op patients are VERY accomodating, they just don't like blanket " can you be my contact " requests. That was not it's intentions anyway---the contacts are so we can ask post ops *specific* questions about the surgery. Some post ops have a pre made " diary " of sorts that they can send out if requested, but imagine having to go through your story every day after being asked generalized contact requests. I think most of them have the patience of Job to handle that every day. There is nothing any post op is hiding. Even patients that have had a few difficulties have no problems sharing their stories (Sharon A is a prime example.) It just takes a little work on our part to be considerate and ask them questions directly. fg At 11:54 AM 04/28/2000 EDT, you wrote: >They only have post-ops on? Gee, that seems strange doesn't it? We pre-ops >could gain some very helpful insight to hear all the post-ops have to say. >We could get a lot of questions answered. Is something being hidden? What >do they talk about that they don't want us to hear? > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2200/1/_/453517/_/956937453/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com >Please visit our web site at http://clos.net >Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 No, that's not it at all....post ops needed a place where they could gather to ask each other pertinent questions relating to their surgery.....and not have to wade through hundreds of emails of newbies struggling with insurance, contacts, etc. Imagine being post op, having gone through all that process and then having to wade through it everyday in order to get your own questions answered when it no longer pertains to you. The post op patients are VERY accomodating, they just don't like blanket " can you be my contact " requests. That was not it's intentions anyway---the contacts are so we can ask post ops *specific* questions about the surgery. Some post ops have a pre made " diary " of sorts that they can send out if requested, but imagine having to go through your story every day after being asked generalized contact requests. I think most of them have the patience of Job to handle that every day. There is nothing any post op is hiding. Even patients that have had a few difficulties have no problems sharing their stories (Sharon A is a prime example.) It just takes a little work on our part to be considerate and ask them questions directly. fg At 11:54 AM 04/28/2000 EDT, you wrote: >They only have post-ops on? Gee, that seems strange doesn't it? We pre-ops >could gain some very helpful insight to hear all the post-ops have to say. >We could get a lot of questions answered. Is something being hidden? What >do they talk about that they don't want us to hear? > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2200/1/_/453517/_/956937453/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com >Please visit our web site at http://clos.net >Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Liz, no, actually alot of the new people have been asking the same question. Used to be anyone could be on the post list, but due to clutter, they decided to make it for post ops only. We had asked if it be permissible to allow preops to LURK in the post op group only, not be able to post, so we could glean some well needed information without interfering, but I am not sure that egroups is set up to let one group of people lurk and others not without having a big time moderator setting everyone's options up separately. The idea is still being thrown out there. fg >Hi Again, > I'm not trying to get anyone " started " . And I am not offended either. I >can understand what you are saying, sort of that it is like a " dedicated " >line. And that is okay with me. Many times on this MGB line I've thought >that perhaps we should send some replies and questions specifically to the >one individual it pertained to just so the number of our emails aren't in the >hundreds daily. BUT, I for one would really benefit from the post-op >questions because that would help me KNOW what lies ahead for me instead of >the constant state of UNKNOWN that I currently reside in. >There are many post-ops that come to this site but usually just for a few >months. Here's my point, I now feel somewhat confidant that I would be okay >for the first few months after surgery. I would possibly be able to get this >same confidence if I could thumb through some older post-ops. Does this make >sense to you? > Your reply was that they need a place to go to to get questions answered >about post operative care without wading.....I assume that this is post-ops >getting advice from post-ops, right? If so, I sure could use hearing that >too. I apologize if I have offended anyone, that is not my goal. My goal it >to get all the info I can including and especially long down the road info. >Thank you for listening. Liz > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2200/1/_/453517/_/956939948/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com >Please visit our web site at http://clos.net >Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Liz, no, actually alot of the new people have been asking the same question. Used to be anyone could be on the post list, but due to clutter, they decided to make it for post ops only. We had asked if it be permissible to allow preops to LURK in the post op group only, not be able to post, so we could glean some well needed information without interfering, but I am not sure that egroups is set up to let one group of people lurk and others not without having a big time moderator setting everyone's options up separately. The idea is still being thrown out there. fg >Hi Again, > I'm not trying to get anyone " started " . And I am not offended either. I >can understand what you are saying, sort of that it is like a " dedicated " >line. And that is okay with me. Many times on this MGB line I've thought >that perhaps we should send some replies and questions specifically to the >one individual it pertained to just so the number of our emails aren't in the >hundreds daily. BUT, I for one would really benefit from the post-op >questions because that would help me KNOW what lies ahead for me instead of >the constant state of UNKNOWN that I currently reside in. >There are many post-ops that come to this site but usually just for a few >months. Here's my point, I now feel somewhat confidant that I would be okay >for the first few months after surgery. I would possibly be able to get this >same confidence if I could thumb through some older post-ops. Does this make >sense to you? > Your reply was that they need a place to go to to get questions answered >about post operative care without wading.....I assume that this is post-ops >getting advice from post-ops, right? If so, I sure could use hearing that >too. I apologize if I have offended anyone, that is not my goal. My goal it >to get all the info I can including and especially long down the road info. >Thank you for listening. Liz > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2200/1/_/453517/_/956939948/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com >Please visit our web site at http://clos.net >Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Liz, no, actually alot of the new people have been asking the same question. Used to be anyone could be on the post list, but due to clutter, they decided to make it for post ops only. We had asked if it be permissible to allow preops to LURK in the post op group only, not be able to post, so we could glean some well needed information without interfering, but I am not sure that egroups is set up to let one group of people lurk and others not without having a big time moderator setting everyone's options up separately. The idea is still being thrown out there. fg >Hi Again, > I'm not trying to get anyone " started " . And I am not offended either. I >can understand what you are saying, sort of that it is like a " dedicated " >line. And that is okay with me. Many times on this MGB line I've thought >that perhaps we should send some replies and questions specifically to the >one individual it pertained to just so the number of our emails aren't in the >hundreds daily. BUT, I for one would really benefit from the post-op >questions because that would help me KNOW what lies ahead for me instead of >the constant state of UNKNOWN that I currently reside in. >There are many post-ops that come to this site but usually just for a few >months. Here's my point, I now feel somewhat confidant that I would be okay >for the first few months after surgery. I would possibly be able to get this >same confidence if I could thumb through some older post-ops. Does this make >sense to you? > Your reply was that they need a place to go to to get questions answered >about post operative care without wading.....I assume that this is post-ops >getting advice from post-ops, right? If so, I sure could use hearing that >too. I apologize if I have offended anyone, that is not my goal. My goal it >to get all the info I can including and especially long down the road info. >Thank you for listening. Liz > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2200/1/_/453517/_/956939948/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com >Please visit our web site at http://clos.net >Get the Patient Manual at http://clos.net/get_patient_manual.htm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 >>Is something being hidden? What do they talk about that they don't want us to hear?<< I'm sorry, but when Dr. Rutledge comes to see you in the hospital for the first time after your surgery he gives you a special password and teaches you the secret handshake. Both of these things are needed in order to subscribe to the postop list. Pax, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 >>Is something being hidden? What do they talk about that they don't want us to hear?<< I'm sorry, but when Dr. Rutledge comes to see you in the hospital for the first time after your surgery he gives you a special password and teaches you the secret handshake. Both of these things are needed in order to subscribe to the postop list. Pax, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 >>Is something being hidden? What do they talk about that they don't want us to hear?<< I'm sorry, but when Dr. Rutledge comes to see you in the hospital for the first time after your surgery he gives you a special password and teaches you the secret handshake. Both of these things are needed in order to subscribe to the postop list. Pax, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 In a message dated 4/28/00 5:02:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lolipop32@... writes: << << WWW.CLOS.NET/EMAIL_PATIENTS.HTM >> I am getting an error saying that this page cannot be found. Is there another way? >> Try http:/ instead of www. {{HUGS}} Claire Redhead in FL MGB 4/10/00 !!!! Dr. Rutledge (http:/clos.net) " He who began a good work in you will be faithful to complete it until the day of Christ Jesus. " - Phil. 1:6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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