Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Hey - if we are going to talk about and all the other 'names' he has or/and has been given, we should let him be here. Otherwise - ignore. Personal problems - privately e-mail already stated sources. Still persists - tell the world. I'm sick of this entire topic. This list has pretty badly degenerated, imo. Doubt I'll be staying. --Mona-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Hey - if we are going to talk about and all the other 'names' he has or/and has been given, we should let him be here. Otherwise - ignore. Personal problems - privately e-mail already stated sources. Still persists - tell the world. I'm sick of this entire topic. This list has pretty badly degenerated, imo. Doubt I'll be staying. --Mona-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Hey - if we are going to talk about and all the other 'names' he has or/and has been given, we should let him be here. Otherwise - ignore. Personal problems - privately e-mail already stated sources. Still persists - tell the world. I'm sick of this entire topic. This list has pretty badly degenerated, imo. Doubt I'll be staying. --Mona-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 I hope you wont go Mona. You are a great asset to this list, and you were one of the ppl I thought of suggesting as moderator before I volunteered myself. The list has degenerated a but with this but it will pick up after ths blows over. I appreciate that Pete, but I would have to refuse the invitation, because I'm about to move to another state and pick up the career thing. Time will be a premium. Further, it appears there is some animosity and/or suspicion of LSR/SOS members on this llist, and life is too short for such bullshit. --Mona-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 I hope you wont go Mona. You are a great asset to this list, and you were one of the ppl I thought of suggesting as moderator before I volunteered myself. The list has degenerated a but with this but it will pick up after ths blows over. I appreciate that Pete, but I would have to refuse the invitation, because I'm about to move to another state and pick up the career thing. Time will be a premium. Further, it appears there is some animosity and/or suspicion of LSR/SOS members on this llist, and life is too short for such bullshit. --Mona-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 I hope you wont go Mona. You are a great asset to this list, and you were one of the ppl I thought of suggesting as moderator before I volunteered myself. The list has degenerated a but with this but it will pick up after ths blows over. I appreciate that Pete, but I would have to refuse the invitation, because I'm about to move to another state and pick up the career thing. Time will be a premium. Further, it appears there is some animosity and/or suspicion of LSR/SOS members on this llist, and life is too short for such bullshit. --Mona-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Hey - if we are going to talk about and all the other 'names' he has or/and has been given, we should let him be here. Otherwise - ignore. Personal problems - privately e-mail already stated sources. Still persists - tell the world. Only imho - netty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Hi folks I cant claim to understand nety's post entirely, and actually I dont necesarily agree that we cant talk about ppl not here. Cant we talk abt Dubya then? However, letting this matter drop does seem a good idea. I had a pretty well identical scenario on another list with a woman in Ireland, and that one already had my address, and had been in London on her way to Switzerland! Even to this very day probably all I have to do is mention her name on that now dead list, and a splurge of outrage will descend on me from her and her bf. It was very funny, until I read the bit about how she might actually call on me, then I stopped laughing. And that was only a woman, who are *usually* less dangerous. I hope you wont go Mona. You are a great asset to this list, and you were one of the ppl I thought of suggesting as moderator before I volunteered myself. The list has degenerated a but with this but it will pick up after ths blows over. P. --- MonaHolland1@... wrote: > In a message dated 8/7/01 8:01:30 PM US Eastern > Standard Time, > caenemy@... writes: > > > > Hey - if we are going to talk about and all > the > > other 'names' he has or/and has been given, we > should let him be > > here. Otherwise - ignore. Personal problems - > privately e-mail > > already stated sources. Still persists - tell the > world. > > > > I'm sick of this entire topic. This list has pretty > badly degenerated, imo. > Doubt I'll be staying. > > --Mona-- > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Hi folks I cant claim to understand nety's post entirely, and actually I dont necesarily agree that we cant talk about ppl not here. Cant we talk abt Dubya then? However, letting this matter drop does seem a good idea. I had a pretty well identical scenario on another list with a woman in Ireland, and that one already had my address, and had been in London on her way to Switzerland! Even to this very day probably all I have to do is mention her name on that now dead list, and a splurge of outrage will descend on me from her and her bf. It was very funny, until I read the bit about how she might actually call on me, then I stopped laughing. And that was only a woman, who are *usually* less dangerous. I hope you wont go Mona. You are a great asset to this list, and you were one of the ppl I thought of suggesting as moderator before I volunteered myself. The list has degenerated a but with this but it will pick up after ths blows over. P. --- MonaHolland1@... wrote: > In a message dated 8/7/01 8:01:30 PM US Eastern > Standard Time, > caenemy@... writes: > > > > Hey - if we are going to talk about and all > the > > other 'names' he has or/and has been given, we > should let him be > > here. Otherwise - ignore. Personal problems - > privately e-mail > > already stated sources. Still persists - tell the > world. > > > > I'm sick of this entire topic. This list has pretty > badly degenerated, imo. > Doubt I'll be staying. > > --Mona-- > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Hi folks I cant claim to understand nety's post entirely, and actually I dont necesarily agree that we cant talk about ppl not here. Cant we talk abt Dubya then? However, letting this matter drop does seem a good idea. I had a pretty well identical scenario on another list with a woman in Ireland, and that one already had my address, and had been in London on her way to Switzerland! Even to this very day probably all I have to do is mention her name on that now dead list, and a splurge of outrage will descend on me from her and her bf. It was very funny, until I read the bit about how she might actually call on me, then I stopped laughing. And that was only a woman, who are *usually* less dangerous. I hope you wont go Mona. You are a great asset to this list, and you were one of the ppl I thought of suggesting as moderator before I volunteered myself. The list has degenerated a but with this but it will pick up after ths blows over. P. --- MonaHolland1@... wrote: > In a message dated 8/7/01 8:01:30 PM US Eastern > Standard Time, > caenemy@... writes: > > > > Hey - if we are going to talk about and all > the > > other 'names' he has or/and has been given, we > should let him be > > here. Otherwise - ignore. Personal problems - > privately e-mail > > already stated sources. Still persists - tell the > world. > > > > I'm sick of this entire topic. This list has pretty > badly degenerated, imo. > Doubt I'll be staying. > > --Mona-- > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Mona and Pete: After initially forwarding emails I personally received to 12-step-free (and I accidentally duplicated a couple), I learned how to take care of this from Ben and have not mentioned certain people since, except in off list posts that do not affect this list. I too hope you will stay Mona. Your input on the legal aspects of the case in New York has been very welcome. Though I believe I can learn anything my doctor knows, law is vastly more complex to me, and varies from state to state. It's nice that someone on the list has this background. Jan In a message dated 8/7/01 8:41:33 PM Central Daylight Time, jontyman@... writes: << Hi folks I cant claim to understand nety's post entirely, and actually I dont necesarily agree that we cant talk about ppl not here. Cant we talk abt Dubya then? However, letting this matter drop does seem a good idea. I had a pretty well identical scenario on another list with a woman in Ireland, and that one already had my address, and had been in London on her way to Switzerland! Even to this very day probably all I have to do is mention her name on that now dead list, and a splurge of outrage will descend on me from her and her bf. It was very funny, until I read the bit about how she might actually call on me, then I stopped laughing. And that was only a woman, who are *usually* less dangerous. I hope you wont go Mona. You are a great asset to this list, and you were one of the ppl I thought of suggesting as moderator before I volunteered myself. The list has degenerated a but with this but it will pick up after ths blows over. P. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Mona and Pete: After initially forwarding emails I personally received to 12-step-free (and I accidentally duplicated a couple), I learned how to take care of this from Ben and have not mentioned certain people since, except in off list posts that do not affect this list. I too hope you will stay Mona. Your input on the legal aspects of the case in New York has been very welcome. Though I believe I can learn anything my doctor knows, law is vastly more complex to me, and varies from state to state. It's nice that someone on the list has this background. Jan In a message dated 8/7/01 8:41:33 PM Central Daylight Time, jontyman@... writes: << Hi folks I cant claim to understand nety's post entirely, and actually I dont necesarily agree that we cant talk about ppl not here. Cant we talk abt Dubya then? However, letting this matter drop does seem a good idea. I had a pretty well identical scenario on another list with a woman in Ireland, and that one already had my address, and had been in London on her way to Switzerland! Even to this very day probably all I have to do is mention her name on that now dead list, and a splurge of outrage will descend on me from her and her bf. It was very funny, until I read the bit about how she might actually call on me, then I stopped laughing. And that was only a woman, who are *usually* less dangerous. I hope you wont go Mona. You are a great asset to this list, and you were one of the ppl I thought of suggesting as moderator before I volunteered myself. The list has degenerated a but with this but it will pick up after ths blows over. P. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Mona and Pete: After initially forwarding emails I personally received to 12-step-free (and I accidentally duplicated a couple), I learned how to take care of this from Ben and have not mentioned certain people since, except in off list posts that do not affect this list. I too hope you will stay Mona. Your input on the legal aspects of the case in New York has been very welcome. Though I believe I can learn anything my doctor knows, law is vastly more complex to me, and varies from state to state. It's nice that someone on the list has this background. Jan In a message dated 8/7/01 8:41:33 PM Central Daylight Time, jontyman@... writes: << Hi folks I cant claim to understand nety's post entirely, and actually I dont necesarily agree that we cant talk about ppl not here. Cant we talk abt Dubya then? However, letting this matter drop does seem a good idea. I had a pretty well identical scenario on another list with a woman in Ireland, and that one already had my address, and had been in London on her way to Switzerland! Even to this very day probably all I have to do is mention her name on that now dead list, and a splurge of outrage will descend on me from her and her bf. It was very funny, until I read the bit about how she might actually call on me, then I stopped laughing. And that was only a woman, who are *usually* less dangerous. I hope you wont go Mona. You are a great asset to this list, and you were one of the ppl I thought of suggesting as moderator before I volunteered myself. The list has degenerated a but with this but it will pick up after ths blows over. P. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 I, too, do not want to see Mona go. Having made a major interstate move myself a year ago, I can understand that Mona will not have a lot of time to spend on e-lists. But what is this about LSR/SOS? I wasn't aware that there was a problem. What is going on here? Is there something that needs to be brought out into the open? I certainly hope someone isn't trying to run Mona and other LSR/SOS people off the list. Cheers, nz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 I, too, do not want to see Mona go. Having made a major interstate move myself a year ago, I can understand that Mona will not have a lot of time to spend on e-lists. But what is this about LSR/SOS? I wasn't aware that there was a problem. What is going on here? Is there something that needs to be brought out into the open? I certainly hope someone isn't trying to run Mona and other LSR/SOS people off the list. Cheers, nz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 I, too, do not want to see Mona go. Having made a major interstate move myself a year ago, I can understand that Mona will not have a lot of time to spend on e-lists. But what is this about LSR/SOS? I wasn't aware that there was a problem. What is going on here? Is there something that needs to be brought out into the open? I certainly hope someone isn't trying to run Mona and other LSR/SOS people off the list. Cheers, nz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 > I appreciate that Pete, but I would have to refuse the invitation, because > I'm about to move to another state and pick up the career thing. Time will > be a premium. > > Further, it appears there is some animosity and/or suspicion of LSR/SOS > members on this list, and life is too short for such bullshit. Well I have to accept that is true coming from certain quarters. I will name Ken simply because he is the list's founder and hence this will inevitably have a greater significance to those who have been here since when he ran the show. However, I repeat that I (and I hope also) want this to be a list were *anyone* who wants it based on its description feels welcome here, but on the understanding that their *views* may be criticised by others who dont share them - including whatever recovery ideas someone else might have and the groups, if any, they join with regard to them. The only thing I dont want to see here are personal threats and unqualified XA apologia. Ppl have the right to do the latter but they can do it somewhere else. I see that we have two dimensions of opinion here that can cause friction. One is an abstinence/moderation dimension, and the other is a pro-support-group/anti-support-group dimension. (The latter has also a secondary dimension, pro- and anti- coercion, but I'll leave that out for now). A person might oppose AA on the basis of either dimension while agreeing with it on the other one. Those who oppose AA primarily on its religious basis may agree with it on both dimensions. Any two folks on opposite sides of either dimension are likely to argue, but I don't see that as a bad thing, and those diagonally opposite are likely to debate like hell. Unlike in step groups where high levels of conformity are expected, this is imo a good thing if *personal* respect is maintained. There are usually a great deal more protests and demonstrations on the streets of democracies than on those of severely oppressive regimes - protests are often the sign of a healthy government, not an oppressive one. It's human nature to see ppl and groups as either " white hats " and " black hats " and anyone not wearing a white one must be wearing a black one. I initially found the diversity of opinion on addict-l disorientating - who were the guys in the white hats? I sometimes wonder if I did the right thing by picking my stand with Ken too early and helping to polarize that list in a way from which it never really recovered. But that's history. I think you yourself said that " The enemy of my enemy is my friend " is unwise thinking. I'd like to think that this list can be the way an addiction related list ought to be, with lots of views and not stepper dominated the way all the supposedly neutral ones inevitably are. Those who play the game " Dungeons and Dragons " will recall how each character in the game appears " spiritually " on two dimensions, " Good/Evil " , and " Lawful/Chaotic " . The latter actually corresponds rather nicely to the Support Group/No Support Group dimension. How Good and Evil correspond to the Abstinence/Moderation dimension I leave to the reader! By the rules of the game one can be neutral on one dimension but not both, with one excpetion, a kind of character called a " Druid " . Druids are True Neutrals. If they see a situation which is slanted on either dimension they work to bring it back to neutrality. If they see a universally " Good " society, they will work to introduce " Evil " into it, and vice versa. I have my own positions on our dimensions which should be common knowledge by now, but even before I became moderator in some ways I have been a bit Druid-like, to be a universal " Devil's Advocate " if you will. When Steve arrived with biodeterminist theories and a pro- abstinence and LSR position, my instinct was to present the opposite point of view. A shift in any other direction however may have produced a similar skeptical reaction. I did this more as an intellectual exercise originally, but as an active moderator I think it may be useful to do this in order to stop the list being dominated by any particular perspective - all the time being true to my own views of course, which is somewhat difficult. In the game of D&D, one has to become extremely advanced in the game before you are allowed to become a Druid. Moving a long distance must be very stressful and I think you are finding things taxing now that wont be so bad when you are settled. Why not just go " No mail " on the list when you move, and maybe check the list off the web when you settle, and leave yourself open about whether to get involved again? Again I bleive you would be a very sad loss, but either way very best of luck with your move. I might even join the LSR list to keep in touch with you - if they'll have me. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 > I appreciate that Pete, but I would have to refuse the invitation, because > I'm about to move to another state and pick up the career thing. Time will > be a premium. > > Further, it appears there is some animosity and/or suspicion of LSR/SOS > members on this list, and life is too short for such bullshit. Well I have to accept that is true coming from certain quarters. I will name Ken simply because he is the list's founder and hence this will inevitably have a greater significance to those who have been here since when he ran the show. However, I repeat that I (and I hope also) want this to be a list were *anyone* who wants it based on its description feels welcome here, but on the understanding that their *views* may be criticised by others who dont share them - including whatever recovery ideas someone else might have and the groups, if any, they join with regard to them. The only thing I dont want to see here are personal threats and unqualified XA apologia. Ppl have the right to do the latter but they can do it somewhere else. I see that we have two dimensions of opinion here that can cause friction. One is an abstinence/moderation dimension, and the other is a pro-support-group/anti-support-group dimension. (The latter has also a secondary dimension, pro- and anti- coercion, but I'll leave that out for now). A person might oppose AA on the basis of either dimension while agreeing with it on the other one. Those who oppose AA primarily on its religious basis may agree with it on both dimensions. Any two folks on opposite sides of either dimension are likely to argue, but I don't see that as a bad thing, and those diagonally opposite are likely to debate like hell. Unlike in step groups where high levels of conformity are expected, this is imo a good thing if *personal* respect is maintained. There are usually a great deal more protests and demonstrations on the streets of democracies than on those of severely oppressive regimes - protests are often the sign of a healthy government, not an oppressive one. It's human nature to see ppl and groups as either " white hats " and " black hats " and anyone not wearing a white one must be wearing a black one. I initially found the diversity of opinion on addict-l disorientating - who were the guys in the white hats? I sometimes wonder if I did the right thing by picking my stand with Ken too early and helping to polarize that list in a way from which it never really recovered. But that's history. I think you yourself said that " The enemy of my enemy is my friend " is unwise thinking. I'd like to think that this list can be the way an addiction related list ought to be, with lots of views and not stepper dominated the way all the supposedly neutral ones inevitably are. Those who play the game " Dungeons and Dragons " will recall how each character in the game appears " spiritually " on two dimensions, " Good/Evil " , and " Lawful/Chaotic " . The latter actually corresponds rather nicely to the Support Group/No Support Group dimension. How Good and Evil correspond to the Abstinence/Moderation dimension I leave to the reader! By the rules of the game one can be neutral on one dimension but not both, with one excpetion, a kind of character called a " Druid " . Druids are True Neutrals. If they see a situation which is slanted on either dimension they work to bring it back to neutrality. If they see a universally " Good " society, they will work to introduce " Evil " into it, and vice versa. I have my own positions on our dimensions which should be common knowledge by now, but even before I became moderator in some ways I have been a bit Druid-like, to be a universal " Devil's Advocate " if you will. When Steve arrived with biodeterminist theories and a pro- abstinence and LSR position, my instinct was to present the opposite point of view. A shift in any other direction however may have produced a similar skeptical reaction. I did this more as an intellectual exercise originally, but as an active moderator I think it may be useful to do this in order to stop the list being dominated by any particular perspective - all the time being true to my own views of course, which is somewhat difficult. In the game of D&D, one has to become extremely advanced in the game before you are allowed to become a Druid. Moving a long distance must be very stressful and I think you are finding things taxing now that wont be so bad when you are settled. Why not just go " No mail " on the list when you move, and maybe check the list off the web when you settle, and leave yourself open about whether to get involved again? Again I bleive you would be a very sad loss, but either way very best of luck with your move. I might even join the LSR list to keep in touch with you - if they'll have me. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 > I appreciate that Pete, but I would have to refuse the invitation, because > I'm about to move to another state and pick up the career thing. Time will > be a premium. > > Further, it appears there is some animosity and/or suspicion of LSR/SOS > members on this list, and life is too short for such bullshit. Well I have to accept that is true coming from certain quarters. I will name Ken simply because he is the list's founder and hence this will inevitably have a greater significance to those who have been here since when he ran the show. However, I repeat that I (and I hope also) want this to be a list were *anyone* who wants it based on its description feels welcome here, but on the understanding that their *views* may be criticised by others who dont share them - including whatever recovery ideas someone else might have and the groups, if any, they join with regard to them. The only thing I dont want to see here are personal threats and unqualified XA apologia. Ppl have the right to do the latter but they can do it somewhere else. I see that we have two dimensions of opinion here that can cause friction. One is an abstinence/moderation dimension, and the other is a pro-support-group/anti-support-group dimension. (The latter has also a secondary dimension, pro- and anti- coercion, but I'll leave that out for now). A person might oppose AA on the basis of either dimension while agreeing with it on the other one. Those who oppose AA primarily on its religious basis may agree with it on both dimensions. Any two folks on opposite sides of either dimension are likely to argue, but I don't see that as a bad thing, and those diagonally opposite are likely to debate like hell. Unlike in step groups where high levels of conformity are expected, this is imo a good thing if *personal* respect is maintained. There are usually a great deal more protests and demonstrations on the streets of democracies than on those of severely oppressive regimes - protests are often the sign of a healthy government, not an oppressive one. It's human nature to see ppl and groups as either " white hats " and " black hats " and anyone not wearing a white one must be wearing a black one. I initially found the diversity of opinion on addict-l disorientating - who were the guys in the white hats? I sometimes wonder if I did the right thing by picking my stand with Ken too early and helping to polarize that list in a way from which it never really recovered. But that's history. I think you yourself said that " The enemy of my enemy is my friend " is unwise thinking. I'd like to think that this list can be the way an addiction related list ought to be, with lots of views and not stepper dominated the way all the supposedly neutral ones inevitably are. Those who play the game " Dungeons and Dragons " will recall how each character in the game appears " spiritually " on two dimensions, " Good/Evil " , and " Lawful/Chaotic " . The latter actually corresponds rather nicely to the Support Group/No Support Group dimension. How Good and Evil correspond to the Abstinence/Moderation dimension I leave to the reader! By the rules of the game one can be neutral on one dimension but not both, with one excpetion, a kind of character called a " Druid " . Druids are True Neutrals. If they see a situation which is slanted on either dimension they work to bring it back to neutrality. If they see a universally " Good " society, they will work to introduce " Evil " into it, and vice versa. I have my own positions on our dimensions which should be common knowledge by now, but even before I became moderator in some ways I have been a bit Druid-like, to be a universal " Devil's Advocate " if you will. When Steve arrived with biodeterminist theories and a pro- abstinence and LSR position, my instinct was to present the opposite point of view. A shift in any other direction however may have produced a similar skeptical reaction. I did this more as an intellectual exercise originally, but as an active moderator I think it may be useful to do this in order to stop the list being dominated by any particular perspective - all the time being true to my own views of course, which is somewhat difficult. In the game of D&D, one has to become extremely advanced in the game before you are allowed to become a Druid. Moving a long distance must be very stressful and I think you are finding things taxing now that wont be so bad when you are settled. Why not just go " No mail " on the list when you move, and maybe check the list off the web when you settle, and leave yourself open about whether to get involved again? Again I bleive you would be a very sad loss, but either way very best of luck with your move. I might even join the LSR list to keep in touch with you - if they'll have me. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 > Mona and Pete: > > After initially forwarding emails I personally received to 12-step-free (and > I accidentally duplicated a couple), I learned how to take care of this from > Ben and have not mentioned certain people since, except in off list posts > that do not affect this list. If certain person writes to you again saying he is hacking away at university records to find his old friend, then tell him to do his friend a favor by updating his entry to a better degree. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 > Mona and Pete: > > After initially forwarding emails I personally received to 12-step-free (and > I accidentally duplicated a couple), I learned how to take care of this from > Ben and have not mentioned certain people since, except in off list posts > that do not affect this list. If certain person writes to you again saying he is hacking away at university records to find his old friend, then tell him to do his friend a favor by updating his entry to a better degree. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 > Mona and Pete: > > After initially forwarding emails I personally received to 12-step-free (and > I accidentally duplicated a couple), I learned how to take care of this from > Ben and have not mentioned certain people since, except in off list posts > that do not affect this list. If certain person writes to you again saying he is hacking away at university records to find his old friend, then tell him to do his friend a favor by updating his entry to a better degree. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 Pete: Said person has been quiet. Still has hotmail, but was perhaps warned not to post such intimidating diatribes. Bet my last dollar the guy still lurks. I care not. And I care not what he thinks of me - which makes his attacks on me turn into vapor. Also, I was reflecting that it's not a very good idea to threaten people you don't really know. You may get far more than you bargained for. Just for curiosity's sake, and my own interest in criminology and the psychological aspects thereof, I do wonder what this person's profile would be. I'm not familiar with the ways of people in various parts of the UK, and their use of language, so it's difficult for me to analyze. Overall the posts seemed deranged regardless of what part of the English speaking world they come from. I have no trouble understanding you, and you're a Brit. BTW - It seems to me that the Royal family is like a very big deal in the UK. What's your take on this? I was sorry Princess died, sorrier for her sons. Her ex husband seems rather strange to me as well as his mother. Perhaps I'm missing out on the mores of such a systems. The idea of a Royal family makes me think of Cinderella and fairy tales. What is with this royalty thing, and why are the English people so caught up in it? I don't understand. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 doglvr000@... wrote: <---snip---> > What is with this royalty thing, and why are the English people so caught up in it? I > don't understand. > Jan Jan, What I don't understand is why so many Americans are caught up with British royalty. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2001 Report Share Posted August 10, 2001 I don't either. Everytime they fart, it's in the news. The ONLY time I tuned in was when Princess died. We were the same age, and had a child at the same year, and I felt so sorry for her boys. Jan In a message dated 8/9/01 10:47:48 PM Central Daylight Time, kenr1@... writes: << doglvr000@... wrote: <---snip---> > What is with this royalty thing, and why are the English people so caught up in it? I > don't understand. > Jan Jan, What I don't understand is why so many Americans are caught up with British royalty. Ken >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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