Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Are things so different in the States? Don't know if this is the case in Canada too? In the UK, if there is a need for massage for a medical reason, such as lymphatic drainage, following surgery etc., also relaxation massage, if the patient has a painful condition, then a patient's Dr. would refer them for physiotherapy. So, a person having a pre-existing medical condition, such as EDS, might have their Dr. refer them to a physio., or ask for such a referral. The physio's initial assessment should include most carefully looking at the patient's ROM, hoping they are conversant with EDS, but if subsequent treatments were massage, then only appropriate massage would be done. In the UK it takes a physiotherapist 3 & a quarter years to qualify; my brain is a little tired, but this is more than even 1000 hours, although obviously not all are spent studying massage. They also look at anatomy, physiology, exercise technique, neurology, neuroanatomy, neurophysiology, orthopaedics, rheumatology, respiratory disorders, paediatrics etc. So, in the UK. we have some choice, in that we can see a physiotherapist, who will know the patient's full medical history; something I personally feel important, or see a massage therapist, who may not. I have read Mike's posts with great interest, and also believe that " western " medicine often lets us down. However, I feel that it would be in the best interests of any alternative practitioner to have access to our medical records, " just in case. " Mike has been most kind in sharing his knowledge. He writes that an acupressure point may address more than one problem. Most correctly, he has advised that some acupressure points should not be used during pregnancy, unless you're in the later stages, have gone over term, & hope to induce labour. Wondering if it might be beneficial to know more about a person's medical history, or, inadvertantly, an EDS problem might be alleviated, but might cause an exacerbation of other problems. For example, myself, son, & eldest daughter have EDS. OK., that is why we're on the list...but if no-one asks might you have another disorder, genetic, or not, no-one will know that. In our family's case, we also have some family members who have Chiari 1 Malformation, which can be a genetic disorder too. Imagine an acupressure point is described that alleviates a symptom common in EDS; it also elevates intra-cranial pressure; that would be dangerous to our children. Perhaps no point(s) exist, & I am wondering needlessly, but thought such a scenario worthwhile to imagine... " just in case, " Gail, North Yorkshire, U.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Are things so different in the States? Don't know if this is the case in Canada too? In the UK, if there is a need for massage for a medical reason, such as lymphatic drainage, following surgery etc., also relaxation massage, if the patient has a painful condition, then a patient's Dr. would refer them for physiotherapy. So, a person having a pre-existing medical condition, such as EDS, might have their Dr. refer them to a physio., or ask for such a referral. The physio's initial assessment should include most carefully looking at the patient's ROM, hoping they are conversant with EDS, but if subsequent treatments were massage, then only appropriate massage would be done. In the UK it takes a physiotherapist 3 & a quarter years to qualify; my brain is a little tired, but this is more than even 1000 hours, although obviously not all are spent studying massage. They also look at anatomy, physiology, exercise technique, neurology, neuroanatomy, neurophysiology, orthopaedics, rheumatology, respiratory disorders, paediatrics etc. So, in the UK. we have some choice, in that we can see a physiotherapist, who will know the patient's full medical history; something I personally feel important, or see a massage therapist, who may not. I have read Mike's posts with great interest, and also believe that " western " medicine often lets us down. However, I feel that it would be in the best interests of any alternative practitioner to have access to our medical records, " just in case. " Mike has been most kind in sharing his knowledge. He writes that an acupressure point may address more than one problem. Most correctly, he has advised that some acupressure points should not be used during pregnancy, unless you're in the later stages, have gone over term, & hope to induce labour. Wondering if it might be beneficial to know more about a person's medical history, or, inadvertantly, an EDS problem might be alleviated, but might cause an exacerbation of other problems. For example, myself, son, & eldest daughter have EDS. OK., that is why we're on the list...but if no-one asks might you have another disorder, genetic, or not, no-one will know that. In our family's case, we also have some family members who have Chiari 1 Malformation, which can be a genetic disorder too. Imagine an acupressure point is described that alleviates a symptom common in EDS; it also elevates intra-cranial pressure; that would be dangerous to our children. Perhaps no point(s) exist, & I am wondering needlessly, but thought such a scenario worthwhile to imagine... " just in case, " Gail, North Yorkshire, U.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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