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Always amazed me that Jess' levels always remained normal, for over six

years on the diet. But I still say its the type of fat that matters, I

didn't do what my keto centre recommended - margarine and corn or canola

oil. Used butter (my theory is if God made it its healthier than

anything else) and a mixture of flax, olive and usually sunflower or

safflower oil, with a little bit of canola. We did use cream but

averaging about 25 g per meal and neve above 35 g per meal. And a few

meals with no cream at all.

, 's mom

Hill wrote:

> Found this while looking for something else in 'my docs' ,

> gives a

> broad outline of usual lipid levels etc for kiddies on the diet,

>

>

>

> > > Researchers at the s Hopkins Children's Center report that

> the

> > > rigorously high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet known as the

> ketogenic

> > > diet, shown to reduce or eliminate difficult-to-control seizures

> in

> > > children with epilepsy, significantly raised children's

> cholesterol

> > > and levels of lipids and lipoproteins in the blood.

> > >

> > > Results of the study are published in the August 20 issue of the

>

> > > Journal of the American Medical Association. After following the

> diet

> > > for six months, only one in six children in the study group had

> > > either a cholesterol or triglyceride level considered acceptable

> for

> > > children.

> > >

> > > Despite the elevated lipids, the researchers believe the diet

> should

> > > remain in the treatment arsenal because children remain on the

> > > ketogenic diet temporarily - only one to two years. " These high

> > > cholesterol and triglyceride levels are unlikely to be

> associated

> > > with a long-term increase in risk for cardiovascular disease in

> > > adulthood, " said the study's lead author, O. Kwiterovich,

> Jr.,

> > > M.D., director of the Division of Lipid Research and

> Atherosclerosis

> > > at the Children's Center.

> > >

> > > " Although we know that, in adults, high cholesterol and

> triglyceride

> > > levels may increase one's risk for heart disease, we believe

> that

> > > children following the ketogenic diet do not stay on it long

> enough

> > > for these high levels to become a problem, " he added.

> " Typically,

> > > when the children resume a normal diet, these levels return to

> > > normal. "

> > >

> > > Kwiterovich said parents may want to have their own and their

> child's

> > > cholesterol and lipid profiles tested before putting their child

> on

> > > the ketogenic diet. " Children with even one parent with high

> > > cholesterol, or a family history of heart disease, may be more

> prone

> > > to extremely high cholesterol and triglyceride levels when

> following

> > > the diet, " he said.

> > >

> > > Refined in the Pediatric Epilepsy Center at the s Hopkins

> > > Children's Center, the ketogenic diet is designed to maintain a

> > > child's normal growth and development and is not used for weight

>

> > > reduction. The diet mimics some of the effects of starvation, in

>

> > > which the body first uses up glucose and glycogen before burning

>

> > > stored body fat. In the absence of glucose, the body produces

> > > ketones, a chemical byproduct of fat that can inhibit seizures.

> > > Children who remain seizure-free for two years on the ketogenic

> diet

> > > can resume normal eating. Generally, their seizures don't

> return.

> > >

> > > For the current study, the Hopkins team tracked 141 children

> between

> > > the ages of four months and 20 years who had been diagnosed with

>

> > > difficult-to-treat seizures and were part of a larger group of

> > > patients accepted into the s Hopkins ketogenic diet program

> > > between 1994 and 2001. After following the diet for six months,

> > > researchers measured the children's triglyceride and total

> > > cholesterol levels, including high-density lipoproteins (HDL,

> > > or " good " cholesterol), low-density lipoproteins (LDL, or " bad "

> > > cholesterol), and very low-density lipoproteins. A subset of the

>

> > > study group was followed up after 12 and 24 months.

> > >

> > > After six months on the diet, the children's average total

> > > cholesterol rose significantly to 232 milligrams per deciliter,

> well

> > > above the 200 mg/dL level the medical community considers too

> high

> > > for children. Average LDL cholesterol also increased to levels

> almost

> > > 20 mg/dL above what is considered to be too high. Triglyceride

> levels

> > > averaged 154 mg/dL, which also exceeds normal levels for

> children.

> > >

> > > For the subgroup that was followed after 12 and 24 months, total

>

> > > cholesterol levels were lower than they were after six months,

> but

> > > still remained above 200 mg/dL.

> > >

> > > Kwiterovich cautioned that the results of this study do not

> predict

> > > how all children will respond to a high-fat, low-carbohydrate

> diet

> > > like the ketogenic diet. " Many of these children were on a

> number of

> > > medications for seizure control so diverse that it was not

> possible

> > > to determine the influence of each drug and dosage combination

> on

> > > lipid and cholesterol levels, " he said.

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Always amazed me that Jess' levels always remained normal, for over six

years on the diet. But I still say its the type of fat that matters, I

didn't do what my keto centre recommended - margarine and corn or canola

oil. Used butter (my theory is if God made it its healthier than

anything else) and a mixture of flax, olive and usually sunflower or

safflower oil, with a little bit of canola. We did use cream but

averaging about 25 g per meal and neve above 35 g per meal. And a few

meals with no cream at all.

, 's mom

Hill wrote:

> Found this while looking for something else in 'my docs' ,

> gives a

> broad outline of usual lipid levels etc for kiddies on the diet,

>

>

>

> > > Researchers at the s Hopkins Children's Center report that

> the

> > > rigorously high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet known as the

> ketogenic

> > > diet, shown to reduce or eliminate difficult-to-control seizures

> in

> > > children with epilepsy, significantly raised children's

> cholesterol

> > > and levels of lipids and lipoproteins in the blood.

> > >

> > > Results of the study are published in the August 20 issue of the

>

> > > Journal of the American Medical Association. After following the

> diet

> > > for six months, only one in six children in the study group had

> > > either a cholesterol or triglyceride level considered acceptable

> for

> > > children.

> > >

> > > Despite the elevated lipids, the researchers believe the diet

> should

> > > remain in the treatment arsenal because children remain on the

> > > ketogenic diet temporarily - only one to two years. " These high

> > > cholesterol and triglyceride levels are unlikely to be

> associated

> > > with a long-term increase in risk for cardiovascular disease in

> > > adulthood, " said the study's lead author, O. Kwiterovich,

> Jr.,

> > > M.D., director of the Division of Lipid Research and

> Atherosclerosis

> > > at the Children's Center.

> > >

> > > " Although we know that, in adults, high cholesterol and

> triglyceride

> > > levels may increase one's risk for heart disease, we believe

> that

> > > children following the ketogenic diet do not stay on it long

> enough

> > > for these high levels to become a problem, " he added.

> " Typically,

> > > when the children resume a normal diet, these levels return to

> > > normal. "

> > >

> > > Kwiterovich said parents may want to have their own and their

> child's

> > > cholesterol and lipid profiles tested before putting their child

> on

> > > the ketogenic diet. " Children with even one parent with high

> > > cholesterol, or a family history of heart disease, may be more

> prone

> > > to extremely high cholesterol and triglyceride levels when

> following

> > > the diet, " he said.

> > >

> > > Refined in the Pediatric Epilepsy Center at the s Hopkins

> > > Children's Center, the ketogenic diet is designed to maintain a

> > > child's normal growth and development and is not used for weight

>

> > > reduction. The diet mimics some of the effects of starvation, in

>

> > > which the body first uses up glucose and glycogen before burning

>

> > > stored body fat. In the absence of glucose, the body produces

> > > ketones, a chemical byproduct of fat that can inhibit seizures.

> > > Children who remain seizure-free for two years on the ketogenic

> diet

> > > can resume normal eating. Generally, their seizures don't

> return.

> > >

> > > For the current study, the Hopkins team tracked 141 children

> between

> > > the ages of four months and 20 years who had been diagnosed with

>

> > > difficult-to-treat seizures and were part of a larger group of

> > > patients accepted into the s Hopkins ketogenic diet program

> > > between 1994 and 2001. After following the diet for six months,

> > > researchers measured the children's triglyceride and total

> > > cholesterol levels, including high-density lipoproteins (HDL,

> > > or " good " cholesterol), low-density lipoproteins (LDL, or " bad "

> > > cholesterol), and very low-density lipoproteins. A subset of the

>

> > > study group was followed up after 12 and 24 months.

> > >

> > > After six months on the diet, the children's average total

> > > cholesterol rose significantly to 232 milligrams per deciliter,

> well

> > > above the 200 mg/dL level the medical community considers too

> high

> > > for children. Average LDL cholesterol also increased to levels

> almost

> > > 20 mg/dL above what is considered to be too high. Triglyceride

> levels

> > > averaged 154 mg/dL, which also exceeds normal levels for

> children.

> > >

> > > For the subgroup that was followed after 12 and 24 months, total

>

> > > cholesterol levels were lower than they were after six months,

> but

> > > still remained above 200 mg/dL.

> > >

> > > Kwiterovich cautioned that the results of this study do not

> predict

> > > how all children will respond to a high-fat, low-carbohydrate

> diet

> > > like the ketogenic diet. " Many of these children were on a

> number of

> > > medications for seizure control so diverse that it was not

> possible

> > > to determine the influence of each drug and dosage combination

> on

> > > lipid and cholesterol levels, " he said.

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Always amazed me that Jess' levels always remained normal, for over six

years on the diet. But I still say its the type of fat that matters, I

didn't do what my keto centre recommended - margarine and corn or canola

oil. Used butter (my theory is if God made it its healthier than

anything else) and a mixture of flax, olive and usually sunflower or

safflower oil, with a little bit of canola. We did use cream but

averaging about 25 g per meal and neve above 35 g per meal. And a few

meals with no cream at all.

, 's mom

Hill wrote:

> Found this while looking for something else in 'my docs' ,

> gives a

> broad outline of usual lipid levels etc for kiddies on the diet,

>

>

>

> > > Researchers at the s Hopkins Children's Center report that

> the

> > > rigorously high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet known as the

> ketogenic

> > > diet, shown to reduce or eliminate difficult-to-control seizures

> in

> > > children with epilepsy, significantly raised children's

> cholesterol

> > > and levels of lipids and lipoproteins in the blood.

> > >

> > > Results of the study are published in the August 20 issue of the

>

> > > Journal of the American Medical Association. After following the

> diet

> > > for six months, only one in six children in the study group had

> > > either a cholesterol or triglyceride level considered acceptable

> for

> > > children.

> > >

> > > Despite the elevated lipids, the researchers believe the diet

> should

> > > remain in the treatment arsenal because children remain on the

> > > ketogenic diet temporarily - only one to two years. " These high

> > > cholesterol and triglyceride levels are unlikely to be

> associated

> > > with a long-term increase in risk for cardiovascular disease in

> > > adulthood, " said the study's lead author, O. Kwiterovich,

> Jr.,

> > > M.D., director of the Division of Lipid Research and

> Atherosclerosis

> > > at the Children's Center.

> > >

> > > " Although we know that, in adults, high cholesterol and

> triglyceride

> > > levels may increase one's risk for heart disease, we believe

> that

> > > children following the ketogenic diet do not stay on it long

> enough

> > > for these high levels to become a problem, " he added.

> " Typically,

> > > when the children resume a normal diet, these levels return to

> > > normal. "

> > >

> > > Kwiterovich said parents may want to have their own and their

> child's

> > > cholesterol and lipid profiles tested before putting their child

> on

> > > the ketogenic diet. " Children with even one parent with high

> > > cholesterol, or a family history of heart disease, may be more

> prone

> > > to extremely high cholesterol and triglyceride levels when

> following

> > > the diet, " he said.

> > >

> > > Refined in the Pediatric Epilepsy Center at the s Hopkins

> > > Children's Center, the ketogenic diet is designed to maintain a

> > > child's normal growth and development and is not used for weight

>

> > > reduction. The diet mimics some of the effects of starvation, in

>

> > > which the body first uses up glucose and glycogen before burning

>

> > > stored body fat. In the absence of glucose, the body produces

> > > ketones, a chemical byproduct of fat that can inhibit seizures.

> > > Children who remain seizure-free for two years on the ketogenic

> diet

> > > can resume normal eating. Generally, their seizures don't

> return.

> > >

> > > For the current study, the Hopkins team tracked 141 children

> between

> > > the ages of four months and 20 years who had been diagnosed with

>

> > > difficult-to-treat seizures and were part of a larger group of

> > > patients accepted into the s Hopkins ketogenic diet program

> > > between 1994 and 2001. After following the diet for six months,

> > > researchers measured the children's triglyceride and total

> > > cholesterol levels, including high-density lipoproteins (HDL,

> > > or " good " cholesterol), low-density lipoproteins (LDL, or " bad "

> > > cholesterol), and very low-density lipoproteins. A subset of the

>

> > > study group was followed up after 12 and 24 months.

> > >

> > > After six months on the diet, the children's average total

> > > cholesterol rose significantly to 232 milligrams per deciliter,

> well

> > > above the 200 mg/dL level the medical community considers too

> high

> > > for children. Average LDL cholesterol also increased to levels

> almost

> > > 20 mg/dL above what is considered to be too high. Triglyceride

> levels

> > > averaged 154 mg/dL, which also exceeds normal levels for

> children.

> > >

> > > For the subgroup that was followed after 12 and 24 months, total

>

> > > cholesterol levels were lower than they were after six months,

> but

> > > still remained above 200 mg/dL.

> > >

> > > Kwiterovich cautioned that the results of this study do not

> predict

> > > how all children will respond to a high-fat, low-carbohydrate

> diet

> > > like the ketogenic diet. " Many of these children were on a

> number of

> > > medications for seizure control so diverse that it was not

> possible

> > > to determine the influence of each drug and dosage combination

> on

> > > lipid and cholesterol levels, " he said.

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Found this while looking for something else in 'my docs' , gives a

broad outline of usual lipid levels etc for kiddies on the diet,

> > Researchers at the s Hopkins Children's Center report that the

> > rigorously high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet known as the ketogenic

> > diet, shown to reduce or eliminate difficult-to-control seizures in

> > children with epilepsy, significantly raised children's cholesterol

> > and levels of lipids and lipoproteins in the blood.

> >

> > Results of the study are published in the August 20 issue of the

> > Journal of the American Medical Association. After following the diet

> > for six months, only one in six children in the study group had

> > either a cholesterol or triglyceride level considered acceptable for

> > children.

> >

> > Despite the elevated lipids, the researchers believe the diet should

> > remain in the treatment arsenal because children remain on the

> > ketogenic diet temporarily - only one to two years. " These high

> > cholesterol and triglyceride levels are unlikely to be associated

> > with a long-term increase in risk for cardiovascular disease in

> > adulthood, " said the study's lead author, O. Kwiterovich, Jr.,

> > M.D., director of the Division of Lipid Research and Atherosclerosis

> > at the Children's Center.

> >

> > " Although we know that, in adults, high cholesterol and triglyceride

> > levels may increase one's risk for heart disease, we believe that

> > children following the ketogenic diet do not stay on it long enough

> > for these high levels to become a problem, " he added. " Typically,

> > when the children resume a normal diet, these levels return to

> > normal. "

> >

> > Kwiterovich said parents may want to have their own and their child's

> > cholesterol and lipid profiles tested before putting their child on

> > the ketogenic diet. " Children with even one parent with high

> > cholesterol, or a family history of heart disease, may be more prone

> > to extremely high cholesterol and triglyceride levels when following

> > the diet, " he said.

> >

> > Refined in the Pediatric Epilepsy Center at the s Hopkins

> > Children's Center, the ketogenic diet is designed to maintain a

> > child's normal growth and development and is not used for weight

> > reduction. The diet mimics some of the effects of starvation, in

> > which the body first uses up glucose and glycogen before burning

> > stored body fat. In the absence of glucose, the body produces

> > ketones, a chemical byproduct of fat that can inhibit seizures.

> > Children who remain seizure-free for two years on the ketogenic diet

> > can resume normal eating. Generally, their seizures don't return.

> >

> > For the current study, the Hopkins team tracked 141 children between

> > the ages of four months and 20 years who had been diagnosed with

> > difficult-to-treat seizures and were part of a larger group of

> > patients accepted into the s Hopkins ketogenic diet program

> > between 1994 and 2001. After following the diet for six months,

> > researchers measured the children's triglyceride and total

> > cholesterol levels, including high-density lipoproteins (HDL,

> > or " good " cholesterol), low-density lipoproteins (LDL, or " bad "

> > cholesterol), and very low-density lipoproteins. A subset of the

> > study group was followed up after 12 and 24 months.

> >

> > After six months on the diet, the children's average total

> > cholesterol rose significantly to 232 milligrams per deciliter, well

> > above the 200 mg/dL level the medical community considers too high

> > for children. Average LDL cholesterol also increased to levels almost

> > 20 mg/dL above what is considered to be too high. Triglyceride levels

> > averaged 154 mg/dL, which also exceeds normal levels for children.

> >

> > For the subgroup that was followed after 12 and 24 months, total

> > cholesterol levels were lower than they were after six months, but

> > still remained above 200 mg/dL.

> >

> > Kwiterovich cautioned that the results of this study do not predict

> > how all children will respond to a high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet

> > like the ketogenic diet. " Many of these children were on a number of

> > medications for seizure control so diverse that it was not possible

> > to determine the influence of each drug and dosage combination on

> > lipid and cholesterol levels, " he said.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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