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In a message dated 4/26/00 11:49:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bergin@...

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<< brenda, are you able to drink a lot of water? since claire has been having

so much trouble with being thirsty i have been wondering about this. i drink

a lot of water now. probably about a gallon or more a day and although i

know i won't wake up drinking that!, i do hope to be able to drink a good

bit of water. i would think you would need it to flush all the byproducts of

weight loss away. just curious.... >>

Just to clarify folks....I can drink the water with no problem, but I would

rather drink something that gives me some nutritional value.

My problem is that the juice, etc. gives me cotton mouth. I too drank a

gallon + of water daily preop and I definitely feel the difference not

getting as much in. So far, the past few days I've been drinking water and

crystal light and although they give no nutrients, at least I'm getting my

fluids and don't have cotton mouth.

{{HUGS}}

Claire

Redhead in FL

MGB 4/10/00 !!!!

Dr. Rutledge (http:/clos.net)

" He who began a good work in you will be faithful to complete it until the

day of Christ Jesus. " - Phil. 1:6

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In a message dated 4/26/00 11:49:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bergin@...

writes:

<< brenda, are you able to drink a lot of water? since claire has been having

so much trouble with being thirsty i have been wondering about this. i drink

a lot of water now. probably about a gallon or more a day and although i

know i won't wake up drinking that!, i do hope to be able to drink a good

bit of water. i would think you would need it to flush all the byproducts of

weight loss away. just curious.... >>

Just to clarify folks....I can drink the water with no problem, but I would

rather drink something that gives me some nutritional value.

My problem is that the juice, etc. gives me cotton mouth. I too drank a

gallon + of water daily preop and I definitely feel the difference not

getting as much in. So far, the past few days I've been drinking water and

crystal light and although they give no nutrients, at least I'm getting my

fluids and don't have cotton mouth.

{{HUGS}}

Claire

Redhead in FL

MGB 4/10/00 !!!!

Dr. Rutledge (http:/clos.net)

" He who began a good work in you will be faithful to complete it until the

day of Christ Jesus. " - Phil. 1:6

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I have rosacea, and I think sebderm also. I've just started on the rosacea

disks and as part of that therapy, started to drink a lot of water. Just the

water has made a difference already. It seems so basic but I just wanted to

remind folks to keep their water consumption at recommended levels. I'm not a

natural water drinker so I must concentrate to do it, but I'm hoping that it

will really help in the long run.

Right now I'm drinking 80-90oz a day.

Fran

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Join the club ;)

I developed a habbit now, 3 litters of bottled natural

spring water everyday. In the morning basically before

work instead of buying coffee like the majority of

people do, I buy two 1.5L bottles of water that

normally last me for the rest of the work-day.

I noticed my skin started improving ever since I

picked up that habbit. First of all my skin is less

oily, second I dont blush as much as I used to.

best of luck,

SC.

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A simple way to know if you are drinking enough water

is how often you use the restroom. From what I

understand, an adult should use the facilities every

two hours. I just make sure I drink a glass of water

after each visit.

:)

--- SC scowboy79@...> wrote:

> Join the club ;)

>

> I developed a habbit now, 3 litters of bottled

> natural

> spring water everyday. In the morning basically

> before

> work instead of buying coffee like the majority of

> people do, I buy two 1.5L bottles of water that

> normally last me for the rest of the work-day.

> I noticed my skin started improving ever since I

> picked up that habbit. First of all my skin is less

> oily, second I dont blush as much as I used to.

>

> best of luck,

> SC.

>

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Actually, I work in the health field and it is very important to remember

that every adult's urinary frequency is the same. If you don't go every two

hours, it does NOT mean you are abnormal or aren't getting enough water.

Most, not all, people will go every 1 1/2 - 4 hours. Freqency of urination

depends on many factors, such as amount of exertion a person faces

throughout the day, salt intake, if the person was semi-dehydrated the day

prior, didn't drink enough water, etc.

There are certain signs that you are not drinking enough water such as if

your urine is dark in color, is " small " in quantity, or is non-existent

throughout the day entirely.

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Re: Drinking water

> A simple way to know if you are drinking enough water

> is how often you use the restroom. From what I

> understand, an adult should use the facilities every

> two hours. I just make sure I drink a glass of water

> after each visit.

>

> :)

>

>

> --- SC scowboy79@...> wrote:

> > Join the club ;)

> >

> > I developed a habbit now, 3 litters of bottled

> > natural

> > spring water everyday. In the morning basically

> > before

> > work instead of buying coffee like the majority of

> > people do, I buy two 1.5L bottles of water that

> > normally last me for the rest of the work-day.

> > I noticed my skin started improving ever since I

> > picked up that habbit. First of all my skin is less

> > oily, second I dont blush as much as I used to.

> >

> > best of luck,

> > SC.

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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Meant to say every adult's urinary frequency is NOT the same! So much for

nimble fingers....

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>

>

> > A simple way to know if you are drinking enough water

> > is how often you use the restroom. From what I

> > understand, an adult should use the facilities every

> > two hours. I just make sure I drink a glass of water

> > after each visit.

> >

> > :)

> >

> >

> > --- SC scowboy79@...> wrote:

> > > Join the club ;)

> > >

> > > I developed a habbit now, 3 litters of bottled

> > > natural

> > > spring water everyday. In the morning basically

> > > before

> > > work instead of buying coffee like the majority of

> > > people do, I buy two 1.5L bottles of water that

> > > normally last me for the rest of the work-day.

> > > I noticed my skin started improving ever since I

> > > picked up that habbit. First of all my skin is less

> > > oily, second I dont blush as much as I used to.

> > >

> > > best of luck,

> > > SC.

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

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I must agree with the " water theory " . I have noticed a almost perfect

complextion for the last 5 months, now that I said that I'm sure to have a

major break-out of resacea.

Christmas morning was my last week of a horrible break-out, and ever since I

have been forcing myself to drink water all day long, I try to drink a gallon

a day.

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What kind of water do you drink?

> I must agree with the " water theory " . I have noticed a almost

perfect

> complextion for the last 5 months, now that I said that I'm sure to

have a

> major break-out of resacea.

> Christmas morning was my last week of a horrible break-out, and

ever since I

> have been forcing myself to drink water all day long, I try to

drink a gallon

> a day.

>

>

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I have a problem with drinking tap water for some reason. I don't

have it with bottled water, but notice that when I drink Evian water

my skin looks great. It's $2.00 per 1.5 liters near my workplace. I

know this is cheaper elsewhere but I don't drive to work. Water is

very heavy to lug around. Instead of treating myself to decaf latte

or a soda, I buy Evian every day. I can tell the difference when I

drink another brand of bottled water.

Take care!

Matija

> > I must agree with the " water theory " . I have noticed a almost

> perfect

> > complextion for the last 5 months, now that I said that I'm sure

to

> have a

> > major break-out of resacea.

> > Christmas morning was my last week of a horrible break-out, and

> ever since I

> > have been forcing myself to drink water all day long, I try to

> drink a gallon

> > a day.

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Matija and everyone,

It's Volvic for me. I, too, can't drink straight tap water. Run

through the Britas filter I can take it for a little while. But the

Volvic then is the real tonic. I imagine it's more alkaline than than

local water. How much do you drink a day, Matija?

Pink

> > > I must agree with the " water theory " . I have noticed a almost

> > perfect

> > > complextion for the last 5 months, now that I said that I'm

sure

> to

> > have a

> > > major break-out of resacea.

> > > Christmas morning was my last week of a horrible break-out, and

> > ever since I

> > > have been forcing myself to drink water all day long, I try to

> > drink a gallon

> > > a day.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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It's interesting that Matija and Pink Cat mentioned Volvic and Evian--

aren't they both French waters, or am I just susceptible to the water

marketing?

I have singled out these two in the past as tasting very different

from other bottled waters. I don't know the word for the taste--

perhaps it's that they're softer, with fewer minerals. They taste

more tasteless to me, if that makes any sense. I wonder if something

to do with that taste makes them better for your skin?

--Elisabeth

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Hiya Pink,

1.5 liters is approximately six eight-ounce glasses of water. I have

a stash of Evian at home so I drink two more eight-ounce glasses of

water there. Total for the day is around eight glasses of water. If I

drink more than ten, I feel a bit waterlogged.

I've seen Volvic at the store. I think I've seen it at Trader Joe's

too. I think I'll take a closer look at it now. How much of the Volvic

do you drink per day?

Thanks!

Matija

> > > > I must agree with the " water theory " . I have noticed a almost

> > > perfect

> > > > complextion for the last 5 months, now that I said that I'm

> sure

> > to

> > > have a

> > > > major break-out of resacea.

> > > > Christmas morning was my last week of a horrible break-out,

and

> > > ever since I

> > > > have been forcing myself to drink water all day long, I try to

> > > drink a gallon

> > > > a day.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Elisabeth,

I haven't tried Volvic but I know what you mean about Evian. If you

drink the Evian and then another bottled water (besides Volvic

probably) or tap water, the other water does taste different, even

bad. Evian does have minerals in it. Maybe the concentration is more

palatable than other bottled waters. I have my husband hooked on

Evian too.

Take care!

Matija

>

> It's interesting that Matija and Pink Cat mentioned Volvic and

Evian--

> aren't they both French waters, or am I just susceptible to the

water

> marketing?

>

> I have singled out these two in the past as tasting very different

> from other bottled waters. I don't know the word for the taste--

> perhaps it's that they're softer, with fewer minerals. They taste

> more tasteless to me, if that makes any sense. I wonder if something

> to do with that taste makes them better for your skin?

>

> --Elisabeth

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Hi Matija and ,

Yes, they are " tasteless " those two waters. Other waters I like are

Highland Springs from Scotland, which you can rarely find here, but I

get over there -- when it's available. I also love Decantae from

North Wales, which is not imported here. So I drink it there. And Ty

Nant from South Wales -- that's the one in the beautiful blue glass

bottle, which costs and arm and a leg. These UK waters are very soft

tasting.

As for the Volvic, I get the 1.5 liters bottles at the health food

store -- two cases at a time (we borrow one of their shopping carts

and bring it home. We're just around the corner -- literally.) They

are $1.99 per bottle. If you get a case you get 10% off.

I drink two bottles a day if I can. The only times I can't is when

I'm on the road.

You know the formula: take your weight in pounds (100 lbs, for

example), cut in half (50 lbs) drink that many OUNCES of water: In

this case 50 ounces, for your bare minimum.

Cheers!

Pink Cat

> > > > > I must agree with the " water theory " . I have noticed a

almost

> > > > perfect

> > > > > complextion for the last 5 months, now that I said that I'm

> > sure

> > > to

> > > > have a

> > > > > major break-out of resacea.

> > > > > Christmas morning was my last week of a horrible break-out,

> and

> > > > ever since I

> > > > > have been forcing myself to drink water all day long, I try

to

> > > > drink a gallon

> > > > > a day.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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What about just buying a water purifier to put on your

tap at home?

:)

--- ruizdelvizo@... wrote:

> I have a problem with drinking tap water for some

> reason. I don't

> have it with bottled water, but notice that when I

> drink Evian water

> my skin looks great. It's $2.00 per 1.5 liters near

> my workplace. I

> know this is cheaper elsewhere but I don't drive to

> work. Water is

> very heavy to lug around. Instead of treating

> myself to decaf latte

> or a soda, I buy Evian every day. I can tell the

> difference when I

> drink another brand of bottled water.

>

> Take care!

> Matija

>

>

>

>

> > > I must agree with the " water theory " . I have

> noticed a almost

> > perfect

> > > complextion for the last 5 months, now that I

> said that I'm sure

> to

> > have a

> > > major break-out of resacea.

> > > Christmas morning was my last week of a horrible

> break-out, and

> > ever since I

> > > have been forcing myself to drink water all day

> long, I try to

> > drink a gallon

> > > a day.

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Lots of people support that. Living here in NYC with a toy kitchen I

don't have the room to put in a purifier. There are enough variations

on them to make your head spin. My chiropractor, who lives upstate in

a house, got one that can even balance the ph of the water.

Excellent, I say.

pink cat

> > > > I must agree with the " water theory " . I have

> > noticed a almost

> > > perfect

> > > > complextion for the last 5 months, now that I

> > said that I'm sure

> > to

> > > have a

> > > > major break-out of resacea.

> > > > Christmas morning was my last week of a horrible

> > break-out, and

> > > ever since I

> > > > have been forcing myself to drink water all day

> > long, I try to

> > > drink a gallon

> > > > a day.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

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Bottled water is often what is termed " remanufactured " water. This is

especially true for those vending machines where you can bring a

5-gallon bottle and fill it up.

This water is just tap water that has been filtered extensively. They

add a small number of minerals back to give it some taste that is

appealing, since pure water has no taste and seems flat.

The Evian and similar waters are actually taken from springs and

bottled. You pay for the cost to transport this water from one part

of this watery planet to another, as bizarre and unnecessary as this

may seem. (Quality water is rapidly disappearing in the world, and it

seems highly probable that wars between countries may be fought this

century over the matter of water supplies.)

There are those that insist that the best water you can drink,

healthwise, is distilled water.

I'd be very wary of fluoridated water. I think that the benefits are

dubious, perhaps overblown, and secondary health effects more likely

to appear. The benefits to dental health may be minimal. You'd get

far better results by cutting down on (or eliminating) sugar and

refined flour foods, but in this world, consumption rules because it

sells; abstinence doesn't sell anything. So a network of

mutually-beneficial (i.e., profitable) conditions arises. Sugary

foods addict us to consume them, and to protect us against tooth

decay, fluoridated water is foisted on whole communities; lots of

toothbrushes, floss and toothpaste is sold. Dentists come to our aid.

When degenerative diseases arise, doctors, surgeons, pharmaceutical

firms and wheelchair makers are waiting for us. Abstinence en masse

would put a lot of people out of work and cause recessions.

Here is a good article to read on the effects of modern foods:

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02healthlibrary/0203longevitycat/020305p

pnf/price.html>

Here, Price found isolated, " primitive " people who never brushed

their teeth and had a kind of green slime covering their teeth, yet

there was nearly no decay or devitalized teeth. In every case where

an individual was found that had severe dental problems, it was

determined that the person had spent a few years outside the

traditional community, consuming modern foods.

So what is with this fluoride thing, anyway?

Ray

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I never used to drink much water, my body had trouble absorbing it, or I

guess processing it, until I got the PiMag Water filter. Now I drink up to

60 oz a day, I had trouble before drinking 2 to 3 glasses a day. This is a

unique technology is very briefly explained below. My sister discovered

this products by a company called Nikken, she was in severe back pain after

having a 3rd child and now she is completely healed. She couldn't sleep and

every day she looked more depleted until she came across this products.

I not only drink this water but I also wash my face with it and spray my

face on a regular basis when I'm starting to feel flushed. The chlorine in

tap water can be so drying and very unhealthy for you skin. My face has

amazingly improved. I think that the less chlorine you have the best shape

you'll be in. They also have a shower head that filters it.

Basically when you drink it, your trips to the bathroom are a lot less than

it would be with regular tap water. The filter is the best one made as of

this date, it can filter up to 0.1 micron. Bacteria such as E-coli and

chromeum 6 would be among the ones filtered since they are much bigger than

0.1 micron.

--Rynnette

INFORMATION ABOUT FILTER:

PiMag Water System

The only drinking water system with microfine ultrafiltration magnetic

technology and pi!

It's here-the revolutionary technology that makes your drinking water

better. The PiMag Water System. It uses four advanced technologies-a

combination available only from Nikken.

Block and granular carbon filters screen out common water contaminants.

Ultrafine filtration captures more. Nikken magnetic technology is added. And

the pi in PiMag comes from ceramic elements that impart the same energy

found in Nikken products with Far-Infrared Technology. For years, this pi

water has been used in Asia. Now this patented system is available in North

America.

The PiMag Water System is unique. Try it, and you'll appreciate the

difference in your drinking water.

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Is there a web site? Thanks, Pink

> I never used to drink much water, my body had trouble absorbing it,

or I

> guess processing it, until I got the PiMag Water filter.

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Hi Francine,

My sister has done a number of things to heal her back. She tapes a mini on

the knot on her back, she uses the elestomag neck wrap, the sleep system,

and likes the intellirest mattress better than the kenko mattress. It took

her about 4 months before her back was better and it has been since December

she hasn't seen her chiropractor.

For maintenance purpose she now wears the insoles and the neck wrap when she

feels is getting tight. If the knot starts getting tight she will put a

mini magnet on it.

My boss had a knee injury and he used the insoles and knee wrap to get rid

of his injuries. Today he can walk again. He told me it only took 2 hours

after he put the insoles for him to walk normally. He would be limping from

one meeting to the next.

Before I use the Pi-Mag Water filter, I had to use the Metro-cream, and my

face was always bumpy and red. What I do now is I drink a lot of Pi-Mag

water. I also spray it cold on my face. This is very soothing for me since

my face gets burning hot. If its too cold coming out of the faucet try

setting some aside on a basin and wait about half an hour. It takes some

pre-planning but in the long run it will be well worth it. I use their

Swiss botanical lotion or cream at night and day, during the day I use the

Zinco as my sunblocker. I also sleep on the intellirest mattress. I do not

have the pillow but am considering getting one since I also have ocular

rosacea and wanted to try and see if this would get rid of it or alleviate

it. I'm considering using the Pi-Mag Water as drops for alleviating the

ocular symptoms.

I also have the necklace since I have bad allergies and sinuses.

I believe that these products allow your body to heal by slowly getting rid

of all the toxins in your body overtime.

I'm considering trying their liver supplements since liver issues are the

root of a lot of skin disorders.

Re: Fw: Drinking water

Hello Rynnette,

I would like to talk to you about the Nikken products. We are new customers

of these products and I was very glad when I read your post. I am from

Canada.

I hope you will excuse my English , because my first language is French.

We bought the Pi-Mag Water filter last week, and I am very happy about the

system. We were buying bottled water since 15 years, so I think the PiMag

was welcome. You say that you wash your face with the Pi-Mag , I tried, but

this is so ....so ..... cold water ? How do you do ? (We can't let hot

water run through PiMag filter.).

My husband have Nikken insoles since 2 months, and I see a great difference

in his energy. I have the Nikken necklace since 2 weeks , because I am

asthmatic and have often sinus infections. So my brother and my husband

tought it would be good for me. I din't see any difference yet ... but it

is too soon ... they told me ...

You said your sister healed her back pain . Can you tell me with " witch

products " ?

Thank you very much in advance,

Francine

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I'm not sure if you got my previous e-mail,

but the website is:

www.nikken.com

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Is there a web site? Thanks, Pink

> I never used to drink much water, my body had trouble absorbing it,

or I

> guess processing it, until I got the PiMag Water filter.

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I asked my sister if she knew how much money it costs per gallon for the

Pi-Mag water system.

It seems a lot of people are concern about the money. This is one of the

newest products Nikken has and I frankly did not know the total cost when I

bought mine. I'm just glad I got it.

Below is an e-mail from one of Nikken distributors who attended a recent

conference.

Hi Don,

Thank you for all you do in keeping us well informed.

A few pieces of information that I learned at the product launch I attended

in Baltimore that you might want to pass along.

We were told that the cost of a gallon of water from the Pi Mag Water System

is $0.45 per gallon. A good figure to know for marketing purposes. Also, we

were

told that in relation to the fact that the PI Mag filters to 0.1 micron, the

smallest bacteria is 10 microns in size. Also it was mentioned that we

absolutely should not run hot water thru the unit, as that will damage the

filters (superfine one, I think).

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> >

> > Is there a web site? Thanks, Pink

> >

> >

> >

> > > I never used to drink much water, my body had

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> > or I

> > > guess processing it, until I got the PiMag Water

> > filter.

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