Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 I just had VBeam done 3 days ago and have bruises on my cheeks and chin. The doctor's office told me the same thing about Photoderm, so I opted for the VBeam. When I learned it would only take 2, or perhaps 3 treatments I was sold. 1. Take some ice in plastic bags in washcloths (in a small cooler) to the doctors office when you have the VBeam, if you get bruises, start applying them IMMEDIATELY, that will help with the swelling and minimize the bruises. My doctor's office is about an hour from my house and I wish I had ice during that time! 2. Get your doctor to prescribe something for the swelling and bruises, mine prescribed Locoid, which seems to be helping. 3. Plan to stay home a bit, I had my done just before the weekend....addtionally lots of make-up WILL cover the bruises. I iced 20 minutes every 2 hours. I woke up with a bunch of swelling around my eyes, so sleeping propped up on pillows would be a good idea if one has swelling. 4. Get some make-up that will work with your skin and cover well. Both foundation and a cover. I found Lamcome's " Palette Pro " works well, it has yellow, pink, green and tan - - the yellow works wonders with the bruises, and the tan and green cover the rosacea. I put this on under my foundation. 5. I have been told the bruises will be mostly gone in about a week. It's odd the web site for the laser says " PURPURA FREE, " ......... well have I got news for them! 6. One thing I have just ordered that I wish I had had before the VBeam treatments is some lotion/cream with Vitamin k - I've read on the web this is supposed to be helpful if you use it after the treatments, and even helps if you start using it before the treatments. But I haven't yet tried it myself so who knows? 7. I have gone ahead and made my appointment for 4 weeks from now, because my doctor's office is filling up far in advance too, in fact on office in town has a 2 month waiting period. 8. It's day 3 and my face still has the bruising on my cheeks and chin, although not as bad as the first day, I am trusting the doctor's experience that this is a common occurrence and I will love the results. 9. The treatment feels like frozen rubber bands and was not bad at all. 10. Please post any ideas and wisdom you have too!....there's not much on this board yet for VBeam. Best of luck! Vitamin K Cream info: Super Skin K-Derm Gel (www.skinstore.com) -sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Hi, Im getting V-Beam laser treatment done on my face in a month from now. Im wondering if I should already schedule another apointment for second treatment, since there is a long waiting list for V-Beam. Are there any noticable results after just one V-Beam treatment? Are there any side-effects after V-Beam? Will I be able to go to work next day after the treatment and not freak everyone out, or taking a week off is a better idea? How many V-Beam treatments does it take on average to have a normal skin? I have moderate cea. I asked my derm about Photoderm and he said its prehistoric and that V-Beam is a lot more effective. Is that true? So many questions, hopefully Im goin to get some answers ) Regards, SC. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 I called one of the groups that does the IPL treatment in California under Dr. Bitter's list. I aksed them the difference between IPL (photoderm) and what they refer to as VBEAM. They told me it is really not laser, it is like the photoderm, however since the patients understand laser better they just call it laser?!! I do not have the name in front of me. Your doctor acutually referred to them as different treatments? -- - In rosacea-support@y..., saralee10@a... wrote: > I just had VBeam done 3 days ago and have bruises on my cheeks and chin. The > doctor's office told me the same thing about Photoderm, so I opted for the > VBeam. When I learned it would only take 2, or perhaps 3 treatments I was > sold. > > 1. Take some ice in plastic bags in washcloths (in a small cooler) to the > doctors office when you have the VBeam, if you get bruises, start applying > them IMMEDIATELY, that will help with the swelling and minimize the bruises. > My doctor's office is about an hour from my house and I wish I had ice during > that time! > > 2. Get your doctor to prescribe something for the swelling and bruises, mine > prescribed Locoid, which seems to be helping. > > 3. Plan to stay home a bit, I had my done just before the > weekend....addtionally lots of make-up WILL cover the bruises. I iced 20 > minutes every 2 hours. I woke up with a bunch of swelling around my eyes, so > sleeping propped up on pillows would be a good idea if one has swelling. > > 4. Get some make-up that will work with your skin and cover well. Both > foundation and a cover. I found Lamcome's " Palette Pro " works well, it has > yellow, pink, green and tan - - the yellow works wonders with the bruises, > and the tan and green cover the rosacea. I put this on under my foundation. > > 5. I have been told the bruises will be mostly gone in about a week. It's > odd the web site for the laser says " PURPURA FREE, " ......... well have I got > news for them! > > 6. One thing I have just ordered that I wish I had had before the VBeam > treatments is some lotion/cream with Vitamin k - I've read on the web this is > supposed to be helpful if you use it after the treatments, and even helps if > you start using it before the treatments. But I haven't yet tried it myself > so who knows? > > 7. I have gone ahead and made my appointment for 4 weeks from now, because > my doctor's office is filling up far in advance too, in fact on office in > town has a 2 month waiting period. > > 8. It's day 3 and my face still has the bruising on my cheeks and chin, > although not as bad as the first day, I am trusting the doctor's experience > that this is a common occurrence and I will love the results. > > 9. The treatment feels like frozen rubber bands and was not bad at all. > > 10. Please post any ideas and wisdom you have too!....there's not much on > this board yet for VBeam. > > Best of luck! > > Vitamin K Cream info: Super Skin K-Derm Gel (www.skinstore.com) > > > -sara > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Vbeam is the latest variant of the conventional pulsed-dye laser (PDL), and indeed is a laser just as its predecessors. It operates at around 585 nm, the frequency with maximum absorption by hemoglobin. IPL is a continuous spectrum from 505 to 1200 nm, with filters used to discard the lower end of the spectrum. Vbeam mitigates bruising via longer pulse, but mostly due to new cooling mechanism. Some people think that the cooling mechanism may limit effectiveness for background erythema by causing localized vasoconstriction, but this is not proven in my mind. I'll really go out on limb here. If you want to get the fastest removal of localized telangiectasia (and don't care about 10 day down time), pulse dye is the ticket. If you're looking for treatment of full-face background erythema and flushing with no bruising, IPL (photoderm) appears to be the best approach. It is not clear to me where Vbeam falls in this range, but proponents advocate that it addresses both ends. But the jury is very much out. (Disclosure: I have done photoderm, not PDL or Vbeam ...) BTW, it must have been a Candela marketing rep who referred to photoderm as " prehistoric " ...! Check out http://www.vbeamlaser.com/ for more info. Rick > > I just had VBeam done 3 days ago and have bruises on my cheeks and > chin. The > > doctor's office told me the same thing about Photoderm, so I opted > for the > > VBeam. When I learned it would only take 2, or perhaps 3 treatments > I was > > sold. > > > > 1. Take some ice in plastic bags in washcloths (in a small cooler) > to the > > doctors office when you have the VBeam, if you get bruises, start > applying > > them IMMEDIATELY, that will help with the swelling and minimize the > bruises. > > My doctor's office is about an hour from my house and I wish I had > ice during > > that time! > > > > 2. Get your doctor to prescribe something for the swelling and > bruises, mine > > prescribed Locoid, which seems to be helping. > > > > 3. Plan to stay home a bit, I had my done just before the > > weekend....addtionally lots of make-up WILL cover the bruises. I > iced 20 > > minutes every 2 hours. I woke up with a bunch of swelling around my > eyes, so > > sleeping propped up on pillows would be a good idea if one has > swelling. > > > > 4. Get some make-up that will work with your skin and cover well. > Both > > foundation and a cover. I found Lamcome's " Palette Pro " works well, > it has > > yellow, pink, green and tan - - the yellow works wonders with the > bruises, > > and the tan and green cover the rosacea. I put this on under my > foundation. > > > > 5. I have been told the bruises will be mostly gone in about a > week. It's > > odd the web site for the laser says " PURPURA FREE, " ......... well > have I got > > news for them! > > > > 6. One thing I have just ordered that I wish I had had before the > VBeam > > treatments is some lotion/cream with Vitamin k - I've read on the > web this is > > supposed to be helpful if you use it after the treatments, and even > helps if > > you start using it before the treatments. But I haven't yet tried > it myself > > so who knows? > > > > 7. I have gone ahead and made my appointment for 4 weeks from now, > because > > my doctor's office is filling up far in advance too, in fact on > office in > > town has a 2 month waiting period. > > > > 8. It's day 3 and my face still has the bruising on my cheeks and > chin, > > although not as bad as the first day, I am trusting the doctor's > experience > > that this is a common occurrence and I will love the results. > > > > 9. The treatment feels like frozen rubber bands and was not bad at > all. > > > > 10. Please post any ideas and wisdom you have too!....there's not > much on > > this board yet for VBeam. > > > > Best of luck! > > > > Vitamin K Cream info: Super Skin K-Derm Gel (www.skinstore.com) > > > > > > -sara > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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