Re: DIRREHA AND CONSTIPATION

[Guest guest]

We're wrestling with this right now as well.

Our son would only go every 3 or 4 days, often with the help of

MOM. When he did finally go, it would be very runny. So, being new

to this game, we didn't know which extreme he was at (constipation

or diarrhea). Finally, we got an x-ray done and sure enough he was

very constipated, and the runny stuff was basically just coming

around the hard stuff. Many glycerin suppositories, an enema, and

a couple of days of Miralax haven't been able to clear him out yet.

We are keeping in constant contact with the pediatrician and

dietician, and I guess if something doesn't happen soon then we'll

have to get the GI doc involved. I'm sure you know that

constipation is a common side effect of the diet, especially at the

beginning. We're obviously working on adding more fiber into his

meals (probably taking Bill's advice and using psyllium husks?), and

increasing his magnesium. The plan is to basically double his daily

mag supplement and expect some diarrhea, then slowly back off on the

mag. until things seem about right. I think it's just a learning

process to see what works for your kid.

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> Hi my son Caden, has been on the diet for amonth the strangest

thing

> withh his bowel movments,for three days he had dirreha and now

he,s

> constipated, had to give him some MOM today, hope it works it has

> been the fourth day, no B.M. has anybody else had aproblem with

> this.Cade is not taking carnator and he is on Depakote could this

be

> aproblem,his seizures have reduced some but not much , was praying

> to see a better reduction hopefully futher into the diet they

wiil

> get better, and getting this diet fine tuned. Any advice Cadens

mom

> Viola Keto kid since september 2004 on depakote clonapan

[Guest guest]

This is the exact problem we had. No one believed Langan was

constipated b/c she was having watery BMs. Lots of screaming (by

her), two ER trips and an xray later they discovered that she was

extremely constipated and the watery stuff was all she

could " squeeze out " past the impaction. Sorry to be so graphic but

there's no other way to describe it. We started with unlimited

fluids and used the Cal-Mag-Zinc 3 supplement and didn't have any

more problems, but first we had a week of enemas to clear her out.

Ugh!

, mom to Langan, 2 yrs old and keto kid 11/03 through 9/7/04,

weaned due to persistent severe metabolic acidosis but keto kid at

heart forever

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> > Hi my son Caden, has been on the diet for amonth the strangest

> thing

> > withh his bowel movments,for three days he had dirreha and now

> he,s

> > constipated, had to give him some MOM today, hope it works it

has

> > been the fourth day, no B.M. has anybody else had aproblem with

> > this.Cade is not taking carnator and he is on Depakote could

this

> be

> > aproblem,his seizures have reduced some but not much , was

praying

> > to see a better reduction hopefully futher into the diet they

> wiil

> > get better, and getting this diet fine tuned. Any advice Cadens

> mom

> > Viola Keto kid since september 2004 on depakote clonapan

[Guest guest]

3 or 4 days better bowel movements is not uncommon on the diet. So is

constipation. The MOM is a good idea. Keep on top of it as constipation

can be a serious medical condition if you have blockage. It can also

result in seizures because it interferes with the diet and increases

stress. If it is bad you will see pain and vomiting and lack of

appetite. Increase fluids if you are able.

Bill

vihairaffair2000 wrote:

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> Hi my son Caden, has been on the diet for amonth the strangest thing

> withh his bowel movments,for three days he had dirreha and now he,s

> constipated, had to give him some MOM today, hope it works it has

> been the fourth day, no B.M. has anybody else had aproblem with

> this.Cade is not taking carnator and he is on Depakote could this be

> aproblem,his seizures have reduced some but not much , was praying

> to see a better reduction hopefully futher into the diet they wiil

> get better, and getting this diet fine tuned. Any advice Cadens mom

> Viola Keto kid since september 2004 on depakote clonapan

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[Guest guest]

Increasing magnesium really works well......trust me.....been

there......

Hopper wrote:

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> We're wrestling with this right now as well.

> Our son would only go every 3 or 4 days, often with the help of

> MOM. When he did finally go, it would be very runny. So, being new

> to this game, we didn't know which extreme he was at (constipation

> or diarrhea). Finally, we got an x-ray done and sure enough he was

> very constipated, and the runny stuff was basically just coming

> around the hard stuff. Many glycerin suppositories, an enema, and

> a couple of days of Miralax haven't been able to clear him out yet.

> We are keeping in constant contact with the pediatrician and

> dietician, and I guess if something doesn't happen soon then we'll

> have to get the GI doc involved. I'm sure you know that

> constipation is a common side effect of the diet, especially at the

> beginning. We're obviously working on adding more fiber into his

> meals (probably taking Bill's advice and using psyllium husks?), and

> increasing his magnesium. The plan is to basically double his daily

> mag supplement and expect some diarrhea, then slowly back off on the

> mag. until things seem about right. I think it's just a learning

> process to see what works for your kid.

> -

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi my son Caden, has been on the diet for amonth the strangest

> thing

> > withh his bowel movments,for three days he had dirreha and now

> he,s

> > constipated, had to give him some MOM today, hope it works it has

> > been the fourth day, no B.M. has anybody else had aproblem with

> > this.Cade is not taking carnator and he is on Depakote could this

> be

> > aproblem,his seizures have reduced some but not much , was praying

> > to see a better reduction hopefully futher into the diet they

> wiil

> > get better, and getting this diet fine tuned. Any advice Cadens

> mom

> > Viola Keto kid since september 2004 on depakote clonapan

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[Guest guest]

Earlier in Oct was in the hospital for 5 days until a grand mal squeezed

out a huge one. Funny thing! The 10+ seizures per day stopped and he was happy

again.

Constipation is common and can be deadly. Not to scare anyone. But there is a

vagal nerve in the rectum. In older people is has been deadly to them when they

are pushing. Supposedly the pushing on the vagul nerve acn cause fainting or

heart attacks. We have been in the hospital too much lately and heard many old

people/vagul nerve stories. The moral of the story is to keep a close eye on

the situation and take it very serious.

Jenn

Mom-mom to 5 years w/ medically refractory epilepsy and other varied

dx's and Sidnee, older sister (just beautiful)

[sPAM?] DIRREHA AND CONSTIPATION

Hi my son Caden, has been on the diet for amonth the strangest thing

withh his bowel movments,for three days he had dirreha and now he,s

constipated, had to give him some MOM today, hope it works it has

been the fourth day, no B.M. has anybody else had aproblem with

this.Cade is not taking carnator and he is on Depakote could this be

aproblem,his seizures have reduced some but not much , was praying

to see a better reduction hopefully futher into the diet they wiil

get better, and getting this diet fine tuned. Any advice Cadens mom

Viola Keto kid since september 2004 on depakote clonapan

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It is important to get medical advice from a professional

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[Guest guest]

Hi Viola, I use to give Kristan MOM everyday and needed to make sure

she also drank her water for her to have a BM. We also have her on

MCT oil which helps. She started Carnitor a few months ago and since

we started that, it helps with her BM and I have stopped using the

MOM.

Hope this helps.

Satnam, mom to Kristan, 23 months

Keto kid since August 2003 and currently weaning from the diet

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> Hi my son Caden, has been on the diet for amonth the strangest

thing

> withh his bowel movments,for three days he had dirreha and now he,s

> constipated, had to give him some MOM today, hope it works it has

> been the fourth day, no B.M. has anybody else had aproblem with

> this.Cade is not taking carnator and he is on Depakote could this

be

> aproblem,his seizures have reduced some but not much , was praying

> to see a better reduction hopefully futher into the diet they wiil

> get better, and getting this diet fine tuned. Any advice Cadens mom

> Viola Keto kid since september 2004 on depakote clonapan