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Broc has been on the diet for about two months now and we can not maintain a

deep ketosis. We are usually in the 40 to 80 range. We have been making

some adjustments but still nothing. Our biggest struggle is to get him to

drink his full requirement of liquids. Currently he is on 1000 calories, a

4 to 1 ratio, and 1100 cc of liquids. We are lucky to get 3/4 of this in

him. Is this effecting ketosis or just putting him at increased risk for

kidney stones. I would think if anything it would make ketones higher.

Mike Bartenhagen

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Hi Mike

ph was also very big drinker before the diet ,he used to drink

juice and nothing except juice! We have tried different beverages

and he did not want anything but water.The problem is he does not

drink enough water by himself from the cup,but he does not mind to

drink it from suringe either by himself or with my help.It does

look a bit silly,but who cares?He also does not drink kool aid but

he does not mind it as popsicles and actually he loves them.I also

invented " tomato soup " ( he loved real tomato soup before the diet)

which adds fluid to his diet too.With all this tricks he gets his

volume.Have you tried popsicles?

As for ketones maybe you should try to talk with your dietitian and

play with different fats? I am pretty happy with flax oil(some

people here talk about adverse effect but we have not see any so far)

and it does keep his ketones high even in morning hours.

Natasha,mom to 2 years old ph,suspected SMEI/Dravet's

syndrome,keto kid since August 23 2004

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Thanks for the suggestions. We haven't tried popsicles but Broc is not a

very good eater so I don't know if they would work but it is worth a try.

Mike

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From: natashagainford

Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:38 AM

To: ketogenic

Subject: Re: Liquid Intake

Hi Mike

ph was also very big drinker before the diet ,he used to drink

juice and nothing except juice! We have tried different beverages

and he did not want anything but water.The problem is he does not

drink enough water by himself from the cup,but he does not mind to

drink it from suringe either by himself or with my help.It does

look a bit silly,but who cares?He also does not drink kool aid but

he does not mind it as popsicles and actually he loves them.I also

invented " tomato soup " ( he loved real tomato soup before the diet)

which adds fluid to his diet too.With all this tricks he gets his

volume.Have you tried popsicles?

As for ketones maybe you should try to talk with your dietitian and

play with different fats? I am pretty happy with flax oil(some

people here talk about adverse effect but we have not see any so far)

and it does keep his ketones high even in morning hours.

Natasha,mom to 2 years old ph,suspected SMEI/Dravet's

syndrome,keto kid since August 23 2004

" The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

resort! "

List is for parent to parent support only.

It is important to get medical advice from a professional

keto team!

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Mike

When I made popsicles for the firs time,I was sure ph would not

even know what to do with it as we have never gave him real

popsicles or ice-cream.I also though he would not have it as it is

the same kool aid he did not want to drink.But he figured it out

very fast and now he loves them.So you'll never know untill you try

Natasha

> Thanks for the suggestions. We haven't tried popsicles but Broc

is not a

> very good eater so I don't know if they would work but it is worth

a try.

>

> Mike

>

> _____

>

> From: natashagainford [mailto:beasly@p...]

> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:38 AM

> To: ketogenic

> Subject: Re: Liquid Intake

>

>

> Hi Mike

> ph was also very big drinker before the diet ,he used to drink

> juice and nothing except juice! We have tried different beverages

> and he did not want anything but water.The problem is he does not

> drink enough water by himself from the cup,but he does not mind to

> drink it from suringe either by himself or with my help.It does

> look a bit silly,but who cares?He also does not drink kool aid but

> he does not mind it as popsicles and actually he loves them.I also

> invented " tomato soup " ( he loved real tomato soup before the diet)

> which adds fluid to his diet too.With all this tricks he gets his

> volume.Have you tried popsicles?

> As for ketones maybe you should try to talk with your dietitian

and

> play with different fats? I am pretty happy with flax oil(some

> people here talk about adverse effect but we have not see any so

far)

> and it does keep his ketones high even in morning hours.

>

> Natasha,mom to 2 years old ph,suspected SMEI/Dravet's

> syndrome,keto kid since August 23 2004

>

>

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a

last

> resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a

professional

> keto team!

> Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

>

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