Re: To Satnam re: meal planner/

[Guest guest]

Thanks , I have excel and did download the meal planner and it

was like a foreign language to me! And, Kristan is mostly formula

fed right now, so there's no point. Thanks for your help though.

Satnam

> > Hi everyone. My little Kristan in the last few days has very

> little

> > interest in taking the bottle or a solid meal. She is quite

> content

> > just sitting and blowing bubbles, she's very vocal and sounds

> happy.

> > I have to wait until she gets sleepy to get a bottle in her!

When

> > she sees the bottle coming towards her she just turns her head,

> > doesn't want it. When I try a solid meal with her, b/c she just

> > wants to blow bubbles it all drools out. I can't win with this

> kid!

> > She has just cut two molars, is that why she has no appetite? Or

> > could the 4.5:1 ratio be suppressing her appetite? She's on 735

> > kcal/day. She isn't crying, like I said earlier, she's quite

> content

> > doing her own thing.

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> >

> > Satnam, mom to Kristan, 21 months today

> > Keto kid since August 2003

> >

> >

> >

> > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a

> last resort! "

> >

> > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > It is important to get medical advice from a

> professional keto team!

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[Guest guest]

I am wondering - since a couple of other mothers are having problems with babies

and ketones, could it just be the formula isn't " right " for the diet?

.

kristansmommy skkahalma@...> wrote:

Thanks , I have excel and did download the meal planner and it

was like a foreign language to me! And, Kristan is mostly formula

fed right now, so there's no point. Thanks for your help though.

Satnam

> > Hi everyone. My little Kristan in the last few days has very

> little

> > interest in taking the bottle or a solid meal. She is quite

> content

> > just sitting and blowing bubbles, she's very vocal and sounds

> happy.

> > I have to wait until she gets sleepy to get a bottle in her!

When

> > she sees the bottle coming towards her she just turns her head,

> > doesn't want it. When I try a solid meal with her, b/c she just

> > wants to blow bubbles it all drools out. I can't win with this

> kid!

> > She has just cut two molars, is that why she has no appetite? Or

> > could the 4.5:1 ratio be suppressing her appetite? She's on 735

> > kcal/day. She isn't crying, like I said earlier, she's quite

> content

> > doing her own thing.

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> >

> > Satnam, mom to Kristan, 21 months today

> > Keto kid since August 2003

> >

> >

> >

> > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a

> last resort! "

> >

> > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > It is important to get medical advice from a

> professional keto team!

> > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Ironically, I have started this 3 times, stopping to check on my daughter as she

seizes.

According to doctors, our daughter Hannah is the youngest to be on the keto

diet. At almost 8 months old, Hannah has been on a version of the diet since

birth (2.5:1 ratio @ 3 days old). Initially, the diet was due to an inability to

effectively and safely metabolize carbs as well as infantile seizures. Since 7

months, she has been on a 4:1 ratio with a small (4.8:1) increase recently. She

has yet to consistently spill large ketones. It is difficult with the babies

because they need the carbs for their brains to grow, and babies utilize their

fat so differently than our older kids. Hannah has been on 3 different formulas

since birth, so chances are the doctors, nutritionist, etc. just don't know what

they are doing with the little ones. We are in Atlanta, GA but have consulted

doctors from all over the world. When I have questions, no one can answer them

because " Hannah is so young and we just don't have a road map to work from... "

What good is catching things early if they don't have the answers? Everyday, I

see our window of opportunity getting smaller and smaller.

We continue to plug along with it though, no matter what work is involved, even

the slightest decrease in seizures makes it worth it.

Prayers to all,

Re: Re: To Satnam re: meal planner/

I am wondering - since a couple of other mothers are having problems with

babies and ketones, could it just be the formula isn't " right " for the diet?

.

kristansmommy skkahalma@...> wrote:

Thanks , I have excel and did download the meal planner and it

was like a foreign language to me! And, Kristan is mostly formula

fed right now, so there's no point. Thanks for your help though.

Satnam

> > Hi everyone. My little Kristan in the last few days has very

> little

> > interest in taking the bottle or a solid meal. She is quite

> content

> > just sitting and blowing bubbles, she's very vocal and sounds

> happy.

> > I have to wait until she gets sleepy to get a bottle in her!

When

> > she sees the bottle coming towards her she just turns her head,

> > doesn't want it. When I try a solid meal with her, b/c she just

> > wants to blow bubbles it all drools out. I can't win with this

> kid!

> > She has just cut two molars, is that why she has no appetite? Or

> > could the 4.5:1 ratio be suppressing her appetite? She's on 735

> > kcal/day. She isn't crying, like I said earlier, she's quite

> content

> > doing her own thing.

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> >

> > Satnam, mom to Kristan, 21 months today

> > Keto kid since August 2003

> >

> >

> >

> > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a

> last resort! "

> >

> > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > It is important to get medical advice from a

> professional keto team!

> > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Oh, ,

Tears came when I read this post. I will pray for you. It is a nightmare, I

know. I truly do. Others don't, but those of us who have experienced it, know.

Even harder, I am sure to see a beautiful little baby suffer so. I am so sorry.

.

Shapiro stephanie_shapiro@...> wrote:

Ironically, I have started this 3 times, stopping to check on my daughter as she

seizes.

According to doctors, our daughter Hannah is the youngest to be on the keto

diet. At almost 8 months old, Hannah has been on a version of the diet since

birth (2.5:1 ratio @ 3 days old). Initially, the diet was due to an inability to

effectively and safely metabolize carbs as well as infantile seizures. Since 7

months, she has been on a 4:1 ratio with a small (4.8:1) increase recently. She

has yet to consistently spill large ketones. It is difficult with the babies

because they need the carbs for their brains to grow, and babies utilize their

fat so differently than our older kids. Hannah has been on 3 different formulas

since birth, so chances are the doctors, nutritionist, etc. just don't know what

they are doing with the little ones. We are in Atlanta, GA but have consulted

doctors from all over the world. When I have questions, no one can answer them

because " Hannah is so young and we just don't have a road map to work from... "

What good is catching things early if they don't

have the answers? Everyday, I see our window of opportunity getting smaller and

smaller.

We continue to plug along with it though, no matter what work is involved, even

the slightest decrease in seizures makes it worth it.

Prayers to all,

Re: Re: To Satnam re: meal planner/

I am wondering - since a couple of other mothers are having problems with

babies and ketones, could it just be the formula isn't " right " for the diet?

.

kristansmommy skkahalma@...> wrote:

Thanks , I have excel and did download the meal planner and it

was like a foreign language to me! And, Kristan is mostly formula

fed right now, so there's no point. Thanks for your help though.

Satnam

> > Hi everyone. My little Kristan in the last few days has very

> little

> > interest in taking the bottle or a solid meal. She is quite

> content

> > just sitting and blowing bubbles, she's very vocal and sounds

> happy.

> > I have to wait until she gets sleepy to get a bottle in her!

When

> > she sees the bottle coming towards her she just turns her head,

> > doesn't want it. When I try a solid meal with her, b/c she just

> > wants to blow bubbles it all drools out. I can't win with this

> kid!

> > She has just cut two molars, is that why she has no appetite? Or

> > could the 4.5:1 ratio be suppressing her appetite? She's on 735

> > kcal/day. She isn't crying, like I said earlier, she's quite

> content

> > doing her own thing.

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> >

> > Satnam, mom to Kristan, 21 months today

> > Keto kid since August 2003

> >

> >

> >

> > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a

> last resort! "

> >

> > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > It is important to get medical advice from a

> professional keto team!

> > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Who knows, every kid is different, but the formula is Ketocal and it

is especially made for the keto diet, has aspartame in it, that could

the problem too, but if I can't get Kristan to eat solids, I have to

do the formula.

Satnam

> > > Hi everyone. My little Kristan in the last few days has very

> > little

> > > interest in taking the bottle or a solid meal. She is quite

> > content

> > > just sitting and blowing bubbles, she's very vocal and sounds

> > happy.

> > > I have to wait until she gets sleepy to get a bottle in her!

> When

> > > she sees the bottle coming towards her she just turns her head,

> > > doesn't want it. When I try a solid meal with her, b/c she

just

> > > wants to blow bubbles it all drools out. I can't win with this

> > kid!

> > > She has just cut two molars, is that why she has no appetite?

Or

> > > could the 4.5:1 ratio be suppressing her appetite? She's on

735

> > > kcal/day. She isn't crying, like I said earlier, she's quite

> > content

> > > doing her own thing.

> > >

> > > Any thoughts?

> > >

> > > Satnam, mom to Kristan, 21 months today

> > > Keto kid since August 2003

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just

a

> > last resort! "

> > >

> > > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > > It is important to get medical advice from a

> > professional keto team!

> > > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> > > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

> unsubscribe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Are you using a good vitamin and mineral supplement?

Bill

Shapiro wrote:

> Ironically, I have started this 3 times, stopping to check on my daughter as

she seizes.

>

> According to doctors, our daughter Hannah is the youngest to be on the keto

diet. At almost 8 months old, Hannah has been on a version of the diet since

birth (2.5:1 ratio @ 3 days old). Initially, the diet was due to an inability to

effectively and safely metabolize carbs as well as infantile seizures. Since 7

months, she has been on a 4:1 ratio with a small (4.8:1) increase recently. She

has yet to consistently spill large ketones. It is difficult with the babies

because they need the carbs for their brains to grow, and babies utilize their

fat so differently than our older kids. Hannah has been on 3 different formulas

since birth, so chances are the doctors, nutritionist, etc. just don't know what

they are doing with the little ones. We are in Atlanta, GA but have consulted

doctors from all over the world. When I have questions, no one can answer them

because " Hannah is so young and we just don't have a road map to work from... "

What good is catching things early if th

ey don't have the answers? Everyday, I see our window of opportunity getting

smaller and smaller.

> We continue to plug along with it though, no matter what work is involved,

even the slightest decrease in seizures makes it worth it.

>

> Prayers to all,

>

> Re: Re: To Satnam re: meal planner/

>

>

> I am wondering - since a couple of other mothers are having problems with

babies and ketones, could it just be the formula isn't " right " for the diet?

>

> .

>

> kristansmommy skkahalma@...> wrote:

> Thanks , I have excel and did download the meal planner and it

> was like a foreign language to me! And, Kristan is mostly formula

> fed right now, so there's no point. Thanks for your help though.

>

> Satnam

>

>

> > > Hi everyone. My little Kristan in the last few days has very

> > little

> > > interest in taking the bottle or a solid meal. She is quite

> > content

> > > just sitting and blowing bubbles, she's very vocal and sounds

> > happy.

> > > I have to wait until she gets sleepy to get a bottle in her!

> When

> > > she sees the bottle coming towards her she just turns her head,

> > > doesn't want it. When I try a solid meal with her, b/c she just

> > > wants to blow bubbles it all drools out. I can't win with this

> > kid!

> > > She has just cut two molars, is that why she has no appetite? Or

> > > could the 4.5:1 ratio be suppressing her appetite? She's on 735

> > > kcal/day. She isn't crying, like I said earlier, she's quite

> > content

> > > doing her own thing.

> > > > > Any thoughts?

> > > > > Satnam, mom to Kristan, 21 months today

> > > Keto kid since August 2003

> > > > > > > > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option,

NOT just a

> > last resort! "

> > > > > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > > It is important to get medical advice from a

> > professional keto team!

> > > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> > > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

> unsubscribe

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[Guest guest]

Hi , I hear you, we've been told the same thing, " Kristan is

so young, sometimes the diet doesn't work in younger children. "

Good luck with everything and I pray Hannah continues to get better.

Satnam, mom to Kristan, 21 months

Keto kid since August 2003

> > > Hi everyone. My little Kristan in the last few days has very

> > little

> > > interest in taking the bottle or a solid meal. She is quite

> > content

> > > just sitting and blowing bubbles, she's very vocal and sounds

> > happy.

> > > I have to wait until she gets sleepy to get a bottle in her!

> When

> > > she sees the bottle coming towards her she just turns her

head,

> > > doesn't want it. When I try a solid meal with her, b/c she

just

> > > wants to blow bubbles it all drools out. I can't win with

this

> > kid!

> > > She has just cut two molars, is that why she has no

appetite? Or

> > > could the 4.5:1 ratio be suppressing her appetite? She's on

735

> > > kcal/day. She isn't crying, like I said earlier, she's quite

> > content

> > > doing her own thing.

> > >

> > > Any thoughts?

> > >

> > > Satnam, mom to Kristan, 21 months today

> > > Keto kid since August 2003

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT

just a

> > last resort! "

> > >

> > > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > > It is important to get medical advice from a

> > professional keto team!

> > > Subscribe: ketogenic-

subscribe

> > > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

> unsubscribe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hannah was on ketocal very briefly. he problem with ketocal is that you can't

manipulate what kinds of oils you use. Depending on the chain, it will digest

differently.Ketocal is nice and easy but with the RCF you can manipulate what

kind of cars and fats you use.

(ps..Hannah only does formula as well.)

Re: To Satnam re: meal planner/

Who knows, every kid is different, but the formula is Ketocal and it

is especially made for the keto diet, has aspartame in it, that could

the problem too, but if I can't get Kristan to eat solids, I have to

do the formula.

Satnam

> > > Hi everyone. My little Kristan in the last few days has very

> > little

> > > interest in taking the bottle or a solid meal. She is quite

> > content

> > > just sitting and blowing bubbles, she's very vocal and sounds

> > happy.

> > > I have to wait until she gets sleepy to get a bottle in her!

> When

> > > she sees the bottle coming towards her she just turns her head,

> > > doesn't want it. When I try a solid meal with her, b/c she

just

> > > wants to blow bubbles it all drools out. I can't win with this

> > kid!

> > > She has just cut two molars, is that why she has no appetite?

Or

> > > could the 4.5:1 ratio be suppressing her appetite? She's on

735

> > > kcal/day. She isn't crying, like I said earlier, she's quite

> > content

> > > doing her own thing.

> > >

> > > Any thoughts?

> > >

> > > Satnam, mom to Kristan, 21 months today

> > > Keto kid since August 2003

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just

a

> > last resort! "

> > >

> > > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > > It is important to get medical advice from a

> > professional keto team!

> > > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> > > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

> unsubscribe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes, you do not have options. Makes me wonder if it is the aspartame... At

least you are very educated in the keto diet and if there comes a time when you

think it is worth another try, you won't have any misconceptions of the

successes and struggles.

Seizures are terrible. I just hate them. I feel so helpless when is

having them, and I know you do to. We would do anything, if we thought it would

stop them. Going into this diet we were aware it worked well for some, and not

so well for others. It is just so stinky sad when it isn't working, and that it

is not working for your baby.

Best to you and Kristan... &

kristansmommy skkahalma@...> wrote:

Who knows, every kid is different, but the formula is Ketocal and it

is especially made for the keto diet, has aspartame in it, that could

the problem too, but if I can't get Kristan to eat solids, I have to

do the formula.

Satnam

> > > Hi everyone. My little Kristan in the last few days has very

> > little

> > > interest in taking the bottle or a solid meal. She is quite

> > content

> > > just sitting and blowing bubbles, she's very vocal and sounds

> > happy.

> > > I have to wait until she gets sleepy to get a bottle in her!

> When

> > > she sees the bottle coming towards her she just turns her head,

> > > doesn't want it. When I try a solid meal with her, b/c she

just

> > > wants to blow bubbles it all drools out. I can't win with this

> > kid!

> > > She has just cut two molars, is that why she has no appetite?

Or

> > > could the 4.5:1 ratio be suppressing her appetite? She's on

735

> > > kcal/day. She isn't crying, like I said earlier, she's quite

> > content

> > > doing her own thing.

> > >

> > > Any thoughts?

> > >

> > > Satnam, mom to Kristan, 21 months today

> > > Keto kid since August 2003

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just

a

> > last resort! "

> > >

> > > List is for parent to parent support only.

> > > It is important to get medical advice from a

> > professional keto team!

> > > Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

> > > Unsubscribe: ketogenic-

> unsubscribe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >