Re: stomach problems lactose/Rhonda

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Thanks Rhonda. Well, I wanted to try the yogurt first. Did Shan's

ketones drop when you switched to it?

Along with tiring easily (she is very active again, but looks so tired

much of the time...and if she's not excited about playing or going

somewhere, she'll take a voluntary nap), Claire has been burping (biiiig

ones sometimes--we call them monster burps). They don't appear to be

related to reflux and I noticed it doesn't happen so much since I added

yogurt to her diet. So if our dietician can give me a way to substitute

the yogurt cream for the cream at each meal (our team does the diet a

little differently, with exchanges, so I can't do it myself), I could

get some more healthy yogurt into her and still use the cream.

Otherwise, if I eliminate the cream entirely, she has to have a huge

amount of straight fat (again, because of the exchange system).

~Barbara

Rhonda Ackerman wrote:

> Barbara,

>

> The big thing was an extreme lack of energy, but she would also have

> stomach

> discomfort. It seems that her stomach has always been somewhat bloated

> since starting the diet. We were so use to her having a distended stomach

> that a couple months ago we discovered that she no longer was

> distended from

> bloating but from weight gain.

>

> If you are planning on taking away the cream watch closely her ketones.

> I've recently discovered that cream and butter are great sources for

> producing ketones. Ketones can drop when switching to a new fat

> source such

> as Sunflower oil.

>

> Rhonda

>

> Rhonda,

> This was an old post, but I'm about to do a similar experiment with my

> Claire with the cream and all. I was wondering, though what Shan's

> symptoms were (besides the lack of energy and continued seizures)?

> Thanks,

> Barbara

>

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Rhonda,

Well, I'm waiting to find out if I can do a straight swap on the yogurt

for the cream. It seems to me, too, that the additional protein and

carbs from the yogurt would be minimal. And, yes, it's the lactose free

kind that I want to give a try.

I stupidly didn't make an appt with a gastroenterologist when we saw the

endocrinologist last week---6+hours one-way for nothing. I was, and am

still, concerned about the low calories and protein Claire is on and

wondered about a metabolism problem, either existing or brewing. They

pretty much foisted us back on the ketoteam. Anyway, when we go back for

next follow-up, I have an appt set up with the gastro. But that's not

until December. Meanwhile, I did a little (albeit unapproved) experiment

with digestive enzymes and that, plus the yogurt, really seemed to keep

the burps limited to one or two right after eating. Before I order any

more enzymes, I want to give the lactose-free yogurt a shot, hoping that

may tell me if the problem is with the dairy.

~Barbara

Rhonda Ackerman wrote:

> Barbara,

>

> We used the yoghurt cream (lactose free) as her primary fat. It

> worked like

> the cream. It did not cause the ketones to drop. In fact, we got her

> down

> to a 1-1.5:1 ratio while using the yoghurt cream. I'm wondering if

> you can

> directly exchange the cream with the yoghurt cream? I would think

> that you

> could. The only difference is that you have added a small amount of

> yoghurt

> to the cream when making the yoghurt. I'm assuming that you are making

> lactose free yoghurt. If you aren't I would encourage you to go this

> route

> with Claire.

>

> Lots of burps would be an indicator that all is not well in the

> stomach/digestive system. If something is not well in the digestive

> system,

> it causes a person to be tired.

>

> Rhonda

>

> Re: stomach problems lactose/Rhonda

>

> Thanks Rhonda. Well, I wanted to try the yogurt first. Did Shan's

> ketones drop when you switched to it?

> Along with tiring easily (she is very active again, but looks so tired

> much of the time...and if she's not excited about playing or going

> somewhere, she'll take a voluntary nap), Claire has been burping (biiiig

> ones sometimes--we call them monster burps). They don't appear to be

> related to reflux and I noticed it doesn't happen so much since I added

> yogurt to her diet. So if our dietician can give me a way to substitute

> the yogurt cream for the cream at each meal (our team does the diet a

> little differently, with exchanges, so I can't do it myself), I could

> get some more healthy yogurt into her and still use the cream.

> Otherwise, if I eliminate the cream entirely, she has to have a huge

> amount of straight fat (again, because of the exchange system).

> ~Barbara

>

>

>

>

>

> " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last

> resort! "

>

> List is for parent to parent support only.

> It is important to get medical advice from a

> professional keto team!

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