Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 I am so distressed by what the two of you (and your children) are going through that I have been doing some research and found something of interest, well interesting to me at least. Controlling Seizures: A Nutritional Approach (a no drug approach!!!!) http://www.worldwidehealthcenter.net/articles-115.html Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 I am so distressed by what the two of you (and your children) are going through that I have been doing some research and found something of interest, well interesting to me at least. Controlling Seizures: A Nutritional Approach (a no drug approach!!!!) http://www.worldwidehealthcenter.net/articles-115.html Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Satnam and all the others so helpfull for me! I come back from hospital but without aël.....He's bad and there is no understanding so I'm desesperated and I want to believe in tha diet, it's our last chance ! Yes it is, I don't want and I can't go further it's too paintful for my little angel and for me too. I'm separated from Nath's dad, we aren't very friends but for once he'll stay at night becase I'm very tired , there's at least 3 months I didn't sleep at all because Nath have too many seizures... I'll tell you a little more later on if you're interested!!!!! I'll try to sleep for a while and go back early tomorrow morning. Doctors still don't really believe in that diet! Nath's urinary ketones are better today but they don't want to check blood levels ketones, they said they don't need to!!!!!!!! Nath is under clonazepam again!They don't know diastat here!!!we have valium intra rectal but not gel or suppository but liquid....is it the same effect? Thank you for beeing there I hope Kristan is better, how is he doing with carnitor? Lots of loves to all children Carolyn , aël's mum Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Carolyn, To break my son's seizures that are too long, we use Dormicum. It knocks him out completely! " caronath " ketogenic > cali.fr> cc: Subject: Re: Re:Carolyn and 23/07/2004 Satnam check this out... low ketones and 05:00 AM seizures! Please respond to ketogenic Satnam and all the others so helpfull for me! I come back from hospital but without aël.....He's bad and there is no understanding so I'm desesperated and I want to believe in tha diet, it's our last chance ! Yes it is, I don't want and I can't go further it's too paintful for my little angel and for me too. I'm separated from Nath's dad, we aren't very friends but for once he'll stay at night becase I'm very tired , there's at least 3 months I didn't sleep at all because Nath have too many seizures... I'll tell you a little more later on if you're interested!!!!! I'll try to sleep for a while and go back early tomorrow morning. Doctors still don't really believe in that diet! Nath's urinary ketones are better today but they don't want to check blood levels ketones, they said they don't need to!!!!!!!! Nath is under clonazepam again!They don't know diastat here!!!we have valium intra rectal but not gel or suppository but liquid....is it the same effect? Thank you for beeing there I hope Kristan is better, how is he doing with carnitor? Lots of loves to all children Carolyn , aël's mum Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Carolyn, To break my son's seizures that are too long, we use Dormicum. It knocks him out completely! " caronath " ketogenic > cali.fr> cc: Subject: Re: Re:Carolyn and 23/07/2004 Satnam check this out... low ketones and 05:00 AM seizures! Please respond to ketogenic Satnam and all the others so helpfull for me! I come back from hospital but without aël.....He's bad and there is no understanding so I'm desesperated and I want to believe in tha diet, it's our last chance ! Yes it is, I don't want and I can't go further it's too paintful for my little angel and for me too. I'm separated from Nath's dad, we aren't very friends but for once he'll stay at night becase I'm very tired , there's at least 3 months I didn't sleep at all because Nath have too many seizures... I'll tell you a little more later on if you're interested!!!!! I'll try to sleep for a while and go back early tomorrow morning. Doctors still don't really believe in that diet! Nath's urinary ketones are better today but they don't want to check blood levels ketones, they said they don't need to!!!!!!!! Nath is under clonazepam again!They don't know diastat here!!!we have valium intra rectal but not gel or suppository but liquid....is it the same effect? Thank you for beeing there I hope Kristan is better, how is he doing with carnitor? Lots of loves to all children Carolyn , aël's mum Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Carolyn, To break my son's seizures that are too long, we use Dormicum. It knocks him out completely! " caronath " ketogenic > cali.fr> cc: Subject: Re: Re:Carolyn and 23/07/2004 Satnam check this out... low ketones and 05:00 AM seizures! Please respond to ketogenic Satnam and all the others so helpfull for me! I come back from hospital but without aël.....He's bad and there is no understanding so I'm desesperated and I want to believe in tha diet, it's our last chance ! Yes it is, I don't want and I can't go further it's too paintful for my little angel and for me too. I'm separated from Nath's dad, we aren't very friends but for once he'll stay at night becase I'm very tired , there's at least 3 months I didn't sleep at all because Nath have too many seizures... I'll tell you a little more later on if you're interested!!!!! I'll try to sleep for a while and go back early tomorrow morning. Doctors still don't really believe in that diet! Nath's urinary ketones are better today but they don't want to check blood levels ketones, they said they don't need to!!!!!!!! Nath is under clonazepam again!They don't know diastat here!!!we have valium intra rectal but not gel or suppository but liquid....is it the same effect? Thank you for beeing there I hope Kristan is better, how is he doing with carnitor? Lots of loves to all children Carolyn , aël's mum Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 , Thank you for this info, I'll try to get some dormicum....is it the same that valium? Carolyn, aël's mum Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Carolyn, I really feel for both you and your son, if you would like to send me some questions and details abt Nath's history and what meds he's on - I will forward them to my dietician who works with the keto diet. She is fantastic to work with and very passionate abt keto. I will forward this to her if you are interested. After reading some of your mails - I have not been online for 3 wks - I can't help thinking that you need help, and quickly ! Check Nath's Bicarb level - He could be overly acidotic (blood test) Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, and Albumin (overall protein) levels are also a good start.U and E as well. These are all blood tests that you should have results of in 24 - 48 hrs. I also check regularly for an organic and amino acid analysis as well as a carnitine check (urine sample) Something could be totally out of whack which needs adjusting. I hope this helps Michele - mom to Keenan (2 1/2 yrs) Doing really well as ketokid ! Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Carolyn, I really feel for both you and your son, if you would like to send me some questions and details abt Nath's history and what meds he's on - I will forward them to my dietician who works with the keto diet. She is fantastic to work with and very passionate abt keto. I will forward this to her if you are interested. After reading some of your mails - I have not been online for 3 wks - I can't help thinking that you need help, and quickly ! Check Nath's Bicarb level - He could be overly acidotic (blood test) Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, and Albumin (overall protein) levels are also a good start.U and E as well. These are all blood tests that you should have results of in 24 - 48 hrs. I also check regularly for an organic and amino acid analysis as well as a carnitine check (urine sample) Something could be totally out of whack which needs adjusting. I hope this helps Michele - mom to Keenan (2 1/2 yrs) Doing really well as ketokid ! Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Carolyn, I really feel for both you and your son, if you would like to send me some questions and details abt Nath's history and what meds he's on - I will forward them to my dietician who works with the keto diet. She is fantastic to work with and very passionate abt keto. I will forward this to her if you are interested. After reading some of your mails - I have not been online for 3 wks - I can't help thinking that you need help, and quickly ! Check Nath's Bicarb level - He could be overly acidotic (blood test) Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, and Albumin (overall protein) levels are also a good start.U and E as well. These are all blood tests that you should have results of in 24 - 48 hrs. I also check regularly for an organic and amino acid analysis as well as a carnitine check (urine sample) Something could be totally out of whack which needs adjusting. I hope this helps Michele - mom to Keenan (2 1/2 yrs) Doing really well as ketokid ! Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Carolyn, No, dormicum is not the same as valium. Normally dormicum is administered via IV for patients in surgery but for our case we just put some in his nostrils as via IV would kill him. We tried the rectal valium but the funny thing is, whatever we put in rectally always comes out with his BM!!! Then there is also Choral Hydrate but that doesnt work for him because it was just too mild! " caronath " ketogenic > cali.fr> cc: Subject: Re: Re:Carolyn and 26/07/2004 Satnam check this out... low ketones and 09:10 PM seizures! Please respond to ketogenic , Thank you for this info, I'll try to get some dormicum....is it the same that valium? Carolyn, aël's mum Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 , Thank you for this info but I would like to know how many mg you put in ths mostrils at the time? Could you do it an other time like with the valium if it doesn't work the first time? Carolyn Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 My son is 14 months old and weigh about 9kgs. I use 0.2ml per nostril..I think the concentration is 5mg per ml. But to be safe do ask the physician to prescribe for you an appropriate dosage to start of with. This is a very powerful sedative and should be used carefully. " caronath " ketogenic > cali.fr> cc: Subject: Re: Re:Carolyn and 27/07/2004 Satnam check this out... low ketones and 05:44 PM seizures! Please respond to ketogenic , Thank you for this info but I would like to know how many mg you put in ths mostrils at the time? Could you do it an other time like with the valium if it doesn't work the first time? Carolyn Re: low ketones and seizures! Good luck Carolyn, I'm with you on the drugs, try one and then stop it if it doesn't work. I'll be thinking of you and ael. Satnam > > > > Hello, > > > > aël is having very bad time seizures every 20 or 40 > mn ,I've just check his blood ketones and he's 1.1 mmol!!!! > > How can I do to increase the level? > > thanks > > Carolyn, Nath's mum > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > ------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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