Re: lipoceutical glutathione

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue, thanx for alerting us to this...I don't see any testing on

their website or any kind of trials...they're just assuming the

glutathione gets taken up because of the properties of liposomes.

But who knows? I guess if there were some reports from doctors, even

if that were subjective, it might be useful.

[Guest guest]

> I don't see any testing on their website or any kind of trials...they're just

> assuming the glutathione gets taken up because of the properties of liposomes.

Hi Jill,

I'll be on the lookout for people who are trying it. Maybe that's our best

bet. It's expensive--I think about $90 for a month's supply.

Sue ,

Upstate New York

[Guest guest]

Sue, Jill and the group,

I hadn't heard about LipoCeutical Glutathione before your post, Sue,

so I can't comment on its effectiveness.

I do know that liposomes have been a big deal in drug delivery for

the past decade or so, and that they are an effective way to help

the absorption of various drugs.

I'll be interested to hear how people respond to it.

Thanks for posting about it.

Also, Sue, I'm really glad that you are continuing the major job of

collecting and organizing the results people are having from the

Marshall protocol. The fact that you are independent of those

promoting this protocol will give your eventual report a lot of

credibility, and I know that many people will be interested in

finding out what you come up with, including myself. Thank you on

behalf of myself, and I think I can speak for a lot of others, too.

Rich

> > I don't see any testing on their website or any kind of

trials...they're just

> > assuming the glutathione gets taken up because of the properties

of liposomes.

>

> Hi Jill,

>

> I'll be on the lookout for people who are trying it. Maybe that's

our best

> bet. It's expensive--I think about $90 for a month's supply.

>

> Sue ,

> Upstate New York

[Guest guest]

Hi Rich,

I've been searching what you have written for a mention of lipoceutical GSH

and have turned up anything. Do you have an opinion on it? I'm re-posting

below a post I wrote in October that I think you didn't reply to--or at

least I couldn't find a reply.

Best,

Sue ,

Upstate New York

Message: 12

Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:07:06 -0400

From: Ron <rhbailey@...>

Subject: LipoCeutical Glutathione

Hi Rich,

I've been so involved (hours per day) in trying to sort out people's

experiences on the Marshall Protocol that I've abandoned (temporarily) my

favorite list--the experimental list.

So I've not been keeping up with you and don't know if you'll have time to

answer this right now. I'm posting it on the experimental list and also

sending you this e-mail to alert you to it. I'll be embarrassed if it's

something you've all been discussing, but don't think your reply should be

wasted on just one person.

So...what do you know about Wellness Pharmacy's new product--LipoCeutical

Glutathione. A doctor has asked me to get studies supporting this specific

product--not supporting GSH in general. I called the company and they say

that studies are underway, but not finished.

>From the bit I've copied below, can you speculate about the effectiveness of

this as compared to, say, IV or nasal spray or undenatured whey protein or

some of the other less-than-perfect precursor delivery systems?

Is it a scam? I'll keep checking to see if you answer me on the list.

Best,

Sue ,

Upstate New York

==========================

I'm copying this from a sheet that arrived in the mail with our last

shipment of IV GSH:

....While clinical evidence suggests that raising the cell level of

glutathione with intravenous infusions may be beneficial, achieving this

goal with oral glutathione has previously not been possible. Oral

administration of glutathione by itself does not achieve either clinical

results or systemic elevation of glutathione. For example, it has been

demonstrated in a clinical study that 3 grams of plain glutathione delivered

by oral ingestion does not elevate plasma glutathione levels.

LipoCeutical Glutathione (trademark)--a liposomal glutathione supplement--is

a unique product designed to facilitate glutathione availability by oral

ingestion and rapidly increase systemic bioavailability of glutathione.

A liposome is a microscopic fluid filled pouch whose walls are made of one

or more layers of materials derived from lecithin that are identical to the

phospholipid that make up cell membranes. The outer wall of the liposome is

fat soluble, while the inside is water-soluble. This combination allows the

liposome to be readily absorbed allowing the systemic availability of

water-soluble materials that would otherwise not be absorbed into the body.

LipoCeutical Glutathione maintains the glutathione in the reduced state and

the product has a shelf life of 2 years...

There's more at their website: http://www.gshnow.com/

============

Message: 6

Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:22:32 -0400

From: Ron <rhbailey@...>

Subject: Re: LipoCeutical Glutathione

> I don't see any testing on their website or any kind of trials...they're just

> assuming the glutathione gets taken up because of the properties of liposomes.

Hi Jill,

I'll be on the lookout for people who are trying it. Maybe that's our best

bet. It's expensive--I think about $90 for a month's supply.

Sue ,

Upstate New York

=========

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sue.

I'm still pretty far behind in email responses, but that's one

message that I actually did get to! My response was message number

#71855, which is repeated below:

" Sue, Jill and the group,

I hadn't heard about LipoCeutical Glutathione before your post, Sue,

so I can't comment on its effectiveness.

I do know that liposomes have been a big deal in drug delivery for

the past decade or so, and that they are an effective way to help

the absorption of various drugs.

I'll be interested to hear how people respond to it.

Thanks for posting about it.

Also, Sue, I'm really glad that you are continuing the major job of

collecting and organizing the results people are having from the

Marshall protocol. The fact that you are independent of those

promoting this protocol will give your eventual report a lot of

credibility, and I know that many people will be interested in

finding out what you come up with, including myself. Thank you on

behalf of myself, and I think I can speak for a lot of others, too.

Rich "

Rich

> Hi Rich,

>

> I've been searching what you have written for a mention of

lipoceutical GSH

> and have turned up anything. Do you have an opinion on it? I'm

re-posting

> below a post I wrote in October that I think you didn't reply to--

or at

> least I couldn't find a reply.

>

> Best,

> Sue ,

> Upstate New York

>

> Message: 12

> Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:07:06 -0400

> From: Ron <rhbailey@d...>

> Subject: LipoCeutical Glutathione

>

> Hi Rich,

>

> I've been so involved (hours per day) in trying to sort out

people's

> experiences on the Marshall Protocol that I've abandoned

(temporarily) my

> favorite list--the experimental list.

>

> So I've not been keeping up with you and don't know if you'll have

time to

> answer this right now. I'm posting it on the experimental list

and also

> sending you this e-mail to alert you to it. I'll be embarrassed

if it's

> something you've all been discussing, but don't think your reply

should be

> wasted on just one person.

>

> So...what do you know about Wellness Pharmacy's new product--

LipoCeutical

> Glutathione. A doctor has asked me to get studies supporting this

specific

> product--not supporting GSH in general. I called the company and

they say

> that studies are underway, but not finished.

>

> >From the bit I've copied below, can you speculate about the

effectiveness of

> this as compared to, say, IV or nasal spray or undenatured whey

protein or

> some of the other less-than-perfect precursor delivery systems?

>

> Is it a scam? I'll keep checking to see if you answer me on the

list.

>

> Best,

> Sue ,

> Upstate New York

> ==========================

> I'm copying this from a sheet that arrived in the mail with our

last

> shipment of IV GSH:

>

> ...While clinical evidence suggests that raising the cell level of

> glutathione with intravenous infusions may be beneficial,

achieving this

> goal with oral glutathione has previously not been possible. Oral

> administration of glutathione by itself does not achieve either

clinical

> results or systemic elevation of glutathione. For example, it has

been

> demonstrated in a clinical study that 3 grams of plain glutathione

delivered

> by oral ingestion does not elevate plasma glutathione levels.

>

> LipoCeutical Glutathione (trademark)--a liposomal glutathione

supplement--is

> a unique product designed to facilitate glutathione availability

by oral

> ingestion and rapidly increase systemic bioavailability of

glutathione.

>

> A liposome is a microscopic fluid filled pouch whose walls are

made of one

> or more layers of materials derived from lecithin that are

identical to the

> phospholipid that make up cell membranes. The outer wall of the

liposome is

> fat soluble, while the inside is water-soluble. This combination

allows the

> liposome to be readily absorbed allowing the systemic availability

of

> water-soluble materials that would otherwise not be absorbed into

the body.

>

> LipoCeutical Glutathione maintains the glutathione in the reduced

state and

> the product has a shelf life of 2 years...

>

> There's more at their website: http://www.gshnow.com/

> ============

> Message: 6

> Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:22:32 -0400

> From: Ron <rhbailey@d...>

> Subject: Re: LipoCeutical Glutathione

>

> > I don't see any testing on their website or any kind of

trials...they're just

> > assuming the glutathione gets taken up because of the properties

of liposomes.

>

> Hi Jill,

>

> I'll be on the lookout for people who are trying it. Maybe that's

our best

> bet. It's expensive--I think about $90 for a month's supply.

>

> Sue ,

> Upstate New York

> =========

[Guest guest]

But oh no I just read.........

" It is well documented that glutathione sold as a dietary supplement is

mostly destroyed during digestion and therefore is of little use. " Those are

words by A. L. Kongshavn, Ph.D Former Professor: Department of

Medicine, McGill University, Montreal, Canada.

Though to be honest I have been using other studies that indicate

differently. Will have to investigate....

Mark

[Guest guest]

Trying to figure out what is the difference between Lipoceutical

Glutathione and Glutathione?

From searching I found this ... LipoCeutical GlutathioneTM. A

liposome is a microscopic, fluid-filled pouch—which in this case

contains Glutathione -- is this just a brand name?

Is one better than the other?

> But oh no I just read.........

>

> " It is well documented that glutathione sold as a dietary

supplement is

> mostly destroyed during digestion and therefore is of little use. "

Those are

> words by A. L. Kongshavn, Ph.D Former Professor:

Department of

> Medicine, McGill University, Montreal, Canada.

>

> Though to be honest I have been using other studies that indicate

> differently. Will have to investigate....

>

> Mark

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Normal Oral glutathione is destroyied during digestion and not

usefull.

The lipoceutical supposedly is [somewhat] like an enteric coated

substance and very small in size so it supposedly does not get

distroyed during digestion and can be utilized when it gets to the gi

tract intact. The web site has a better description. It is supposedly

a new technique and brand. Whether it gets absorbed or not I do not

know.

TK

>

> Trying to figure out what is the difference between Lipoceutical

> Glutathione and Glutathione?

>

> From searching I found this ... LipoCeutical GlutathioneTM. A

> liposome is a microscopic, fluid-filled pouch—which in this case

> contains Glutathione -- is this just a brand name?

>

> Is one better than the other?

[Guest guest]

The Lipoceutical gluthathione is supposed to be different, and very

available to the cells.

Barb

Re: [ ] Lipoceutical Glutathione

>

> But oh no I just read.........

>

> " It is well documented that glutathione sold as a dietary supplement is

> mostly destroyed during digestion and therefore is of little use. " Those

> are

> words by A. L. Kongshavn, Ph.D Former Professor: Department of

> Medicine, McGill University, Montreal, Canada.

>

> Though to be honest I have been using other studies that indicate

> differently. Will have to investigate....

>

> Mark

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Great information, Rich, really great.

I have also talked with Angie and she is terrific. My problem with

the lipoceutical is its made with glycerin, so even though I have

some I havne't tried it as glycerin really bothers me. People with

chronic illness may be sensitive to it also I don't know.

I have the nasal glutathione. I felt it was really working and

helping. Dr. Horowitz gives it to lymies in addition to IV. But I

have been meaning to call ANgie and ask to send it back and have them

analyze it, or if I can analyze it here, to see if it oxidizes.

Normally I get glutathione in little vials, and they are sealed until

used. And even so over a period of months they oxidize. The nasal

glutathione is in a plastic container and even though I keep it in

the fridge in the dark, it is about half full now and I can't see how

it wouldn't oxidize. Glutathione is vulnerable. So I don't want to be

using oxidized glutathione. If they analyze it and show that it is

still good I'll be pleased. I think it may be a bit cheaper than the

oral.

In addition, not everybody needs 1200 mg a day (ie $50 for 4 days, my

goodness! Too pricey!). I get 1000 mg in my IV and I feel it is

helpful. Maybe less mg a day will work for chronic illness.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jill.

Thanks for your comments.

Sorry to hear that the glycerin bothers you.

Yes, it's true that glutathione is vulnerable to oxidation. The

Wellness people claim that the Lipoceutical Glutathione will last

two years without refrigeration, even after the bottle is opened.

Supposedly, the phospholipid microcapsules do a good job of

protecting the reduced glutathione from chemical degradation.

Yes, the cost is a big issue. Competition may develop over time,

and bring the price down.

Concerning dosage, I think it might depend on the goal. If

maintenance is the goal, a lower dosage would probably help to

improve the quality of life. If climbing out of a vicious circle

and getting the liver back up to full production of glutathione is

the goal, it might take more. I wish I had a better knowledge of

the whole normal glutathione system in the body, including normal

production rates by the liver, and normal consumption rates by the

various organs. Then how about the increased demands for

glutathione presented by toxins and infections and physical

exercise, etc. I discussed this with Dr. Tim Guilford, and he was

wishing along the same lines...

Rich

>

> Great information, Rich, really great.

> I have also talked with Angie and she is terrific. My problem with

> the lipoceutical is its made with glycerin, so even though I have

> some I havne't tried it as glycerin really bothers me. People with

> chronic illness may be sensitive to it also I don't know.

>

> I have the nasal glutathione. I felt it was really working and

> helping. Dr. Horowitz gives it to lymies in addition to IV. But I

> have been meaning to call ANgie and ask to send it back and have

them

> analyze it, or if I can analyze it here, to see if it oxidizes.

> Normally I get glutathione in little vials, and they are sealed

until

> used. And even so over a period of months they oxidize. The nasal

> glutathione is in a plastic container and even though I keep it

in

> the fridge in the dark, it is about half full now and I can't see

how

> it wouldn't oxidize. Glutathione is vulnerable. So I don't want to

be

> using oxidized glutathione. If they analyze it and show that it is

> still good I'll be pleased. I think it may be a bit cheaper than

the

> oral.

>

> In addition, not everybody needs 1200 mg a day (ie $50 for 4 days,

my

> goodness! Too pricey!). I get 1000 mg in my IV and I feel it is

> helpful. Maybe less mg a day will work for chronic illness.

[Guest guest]

Hi Rich,

I posted some questions and comments to you already at the cfs

research group but I " d like to do the same here.

You said that the company microencapsulates the reduced glutathione

with soy lecethin.

Couldn't we mix reduced glutathione and soy lecithin together and it

have the same affect? OR possibly mix it with other beneficial oils?

Am I being to simple here? It's the liposomes that are helping to

carry the glutathione passed the gut into liver?

As far as trials go..........the trial should be whether or not the

product raises glutathione levels. This is the objective.

Thanks for all the info. Rich,

Tammy

[Guest guest]

Hi, Tammy.

I'll copy the response I sent you on the Research list:

Hi, Tammy.

Thanks for the response. You're welcome for the information.

Unfortunately, I don't think it would work to simply mix reduced

glutathione with soy lecithin or to take it with other oils. I

think it must be trickier than that to get the glutathione to go

inside phospholipid microcapsules. The process is proprietary, and

I don't know how they do it, but I think there are some subtleties

involved.

Thanks for relating your experience with the Spectracell test.

I agree that testing to see if glutathione goes up is an important

measure. It's really hard to know what's happening without some

objective lab tests. I hope such testing is done. Of course,

testing isn't cheap, and somebody has to pay for it.

Rich

>

> Hi Rich,

>

> I posted some questions and comments to you already at the cfs

> research group but I " d like to do the same here.

>

>

> You said that the company microencapsulates the reduced

glutathione

> with soy lecethin.

> Couldn't we mix reduced glutathione and soy lecithin together and

it

> have the same affect? OR possibly mix it with other beneficial

oils?

> Am I being to simple here? It's the liposomes that are helping to

> carry the glutathione passed the gut into liver?

>

> As far as trials go..........the trial should be whether or not

the

> product raises glutathione levels. This is the objective.

>

> Thanks for all the info. Rich,

>

>

> Tammy

[Guest guest]

I started using it about two weeks ago, a half teaspoon a day, now up

to one teaspoon a day. Am not herxing from it. I put it in my

Goatien/rice milk/flaxseed drink in the morning.

Helen

> Is anyone else using this new form of gluthathione which Rich told

us about? People on the cfs_research list know that it is causing me

to herx. I called Wellness Health and they told me this is common so

that would be an indicator I was low on GSH. I was wondering if

others using it, was also having herxing?

>

> Bob

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I just want to give a quick reminder to those on glutathione powders/undenatured

whey...You should take it with room temperature distilled water so that the

undenatured part of the whey doesn't

change it's chemistry and thus become less effective. I read this, I think, on

the research article by Dr. Cheney and glutathione depletion.

Dawn

Re: lipoceutical glutathione

I started using it about two weeks ago, a half teaspoon a day, now up

to one teaspoon a day. Am not herxing from it. I put it in my

Goatien/rice milk/flaxseed drink in the morning.

Helen

> Is anyone else using this new form of gluthathione which Rich told

us about? People on the cfs_research list know that it is causing me

to herx. I called Wellness Health and they told me this is common so

that would be an indicator I was low on GSH. I was wondering if

others using it, was also having herxing?

>

> Bob

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Dawn:

Really? I got my Immunepro from Sunray Supply, Cheney's supply house,

and their instructions said milk or rice milk was okay. The taste

makes me sick so I used rice milk with it and have been doing the

same with the Goatien.

Helen

> > Is anyone else using this new form of gluthathione which Rich

told

> us about? People on the cfs_research list know that it is causing

me

> to herx. I called Wellness Health and they told me this is common

so

> that would be an indicator I was low on GSH. I was wondering if

> others using it, was also having herxing?

> >

> > Bob

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob

I took lipoceutical glutathione until 2 weeks ago when I started herxing

badly. Since I have $266 worth here unused, I figured I'd wait until the

herx disappears, and start again. I already took $400 worth, before the

herx, with no positive effect.

Best,

Naomi Weisstein

lipoceutical glutathione

> Is anyone else using this new form of gluthathione which Rich told us

about? People on the cfs_research list know that it is causing me to herx. I

called Wellness Health and they told me this is common so that would be an

indicator I was low on GSH. I was wondering if others using it, was also

having herxing?

>

> Bob

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Helen,

I should have had my resource more accurate before I responded, so I will look

for it and get back to you. I just remember that I started out taking it with

rice milk, then I read this article about taking it with room temperature

disitlled water and so I switched over. I'll let you know if I can find out

where I read the information.

Dawn

Re: lipoceutical glutathione

Dawn:

Really? I got my Immunepro from Sunray Supply, Cheney's supply house,

and their instructions said milk or rice milk was okay. The taste

makes me sick so I used rice milk with it and have been doing the

same with the Goatien.

Helen

> > Is anyone else using this new form of gluthathione which Rich

told

> us about? People on the cfs_research list know that it is causing

me

> to herx. I called Wellness Health and they told me this is common

so

> that would be an indicator I was low on GSH. I was wondering if

> others using it, was also having herxing?

> >

> > Bob

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Dawn:

I really appreciate this. The taste bothered me so I used rice milk.

The Goatien doesn't taste that bad but I've been putting lipoceutical

glutathione in it and it tastes pretty bad.

Helen

> > > Is anyone else using this new form of gluthathione which Rich

> told

> > us about? People on the cfs_research list know that it is causing

> me

> > to herx. I called Wellness Health and they told me this is common

> so

> > that would be an indicator I was low on GSH. I was wondering if

> > others using it, was also having herxing?

> > >

> > > Bob

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Helen,

I tried to find the source I read that from, but I do so much research that I

just can't remember where I came across it.

I did read on my ImmunePro jar that it should be taken with liquids at room

temperature and no juices since it can affect

the denaturation. Sorry I couldn't be more precise. Hope this helps!

Dawn

Re: lipoceutical glutathione

Dawn:

Really? I got my Immunepro from Sunray Supply, Cheney's supply house,

and their instructions said milk or rice milk was okay. The taste

makes me sick so I used rice milk with it and have been doing the

same with the Goatien.

Helen

> > Is anyone else using this new form of gluthathione which Rich

told

> us about? People on the cfs_research list know that it is causing

me

> to herx. I called Wellness Health and they told me this is common

so

> that would be an indicator I was low on GSH. I was wondering if

> others using it, was also having herxing?

> >

> > Bob

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

> Hi Bob

>

> I took lipoceutical glutathione until 2 weeks ago when I started

herxing

> badly. Since I have $266 worth here unused, I figured I'd wait

until the

> herx disappears, and start again. I already took $400 worth, before

the

> herx, with no positive effect.

>

> Best,

> Naomi Weisstein

Naomi, I was recently reading about the master cleanse and they said

while you are on it to drink an herbal laxative tea and night and

help flush the toxins out daily. I did this night before last and

yesterday I had about 6-8 bowels movements. The last three where very

rank and I must have been getting rid of toxins. Whether these were

from using the lipo GSH I do not know but I think it is important

that while we are using anything like this to make sure we are having

several bowel movements a day. I felt horrible last night until the

last three BM's and then my nose dried up and I started feeling

better.

Bob

[Guest guest]

I was at the health food store and bought some reduced glutathione~is this the

same as the lipoceutical? Mine are 250 mg capsules (there were 500 mg). I also

bought some Gotien to try~please remind me of what the benefits of both of these

are?

I am a 52-year-old Caucasian female (the typical pattern for this) with CFS/FMS.

I had a mild concussion when a young girl (was always napping before that,

though), had several episodes of Epstein-Barr Virus, several food allergies

(wheat is the worst) that I am now paying very close attention to, went through

the Dr. Dantini protocol in 2003 of food allergy rotation diet and antiviral

meds (Valtrex) for the EBV, parvo and herpes viruses. After six months the

brain fog was gone and I felt more energetic than in years. I still have loads

of stress in my life which have diminished more in past months (we lost 7 family

members in 4 years and sorted, purged and moved three households of theirs

during that time), went through menopause, have a 17-year-old son who was

fractious during the last few years but now doing better, plus trying to work

part-time to afford the supplements to get better. I've been taking

Recuperation for 3 months and I have more energy, sleep less, wake earlier in

the day most of the time, need shorter naps and sleep more deeply, so it's doing

something good.

My main problem is still pain~since they took Vioxx off the market. Vicodin

works when I need muscle relaxation but I try to limit it. Just had dental work

done and felt lousy afterwards~my bite must be still off and need to go back.

The new dentist who took over the practice spent so much time on his laptop

computer measuring the crown so you don't have to come back that I felt like my

teeth were neglected so may try someone else. Never thought about all the

mercury fillings but I have tons in my mouth which are actually being replaced

(maybe I'm having issues with the removal, too).

in La Selva Beach CA

Re: lipoceutical glutathione

Dawn:

I really appreciate this. The taste bothered me so I used rice milk.

The Goatien doesn't taste that bad but I've been putting lipoceutical

glutathione in it and it tastes pretty bad.

Helen

> > > Is anyone else using this new form of gluthathione which Rich

> told

> > us about? People on the cfs_research list know that it is causing

> me

> > to herx. I called Wellness Health and they told me this is common

> so

> > that would be an indicator I was low on GSH. I was wondering if

> > others using it, was also having herxing?

> > >

> > > Bob

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

I think having merc removed is huge. I had 7 crowns about 22 yrs ago and all

that merc in those teeth was just drilled out and 'let fly' back in those days.

No wonder my brains are fried! This is definitely something I need to be

dealing with.

Marcia

Re: lipoceutical glutathione

Dawn:

I really appreciate this. The taste bothered me so I used rice milk.

The Goatien doesn't taste that bad but I've been putting lipoceutical

glutathione in it and it tastes pretty bad.

Helen

> > > Is anyone else using this new form of gluthathione which Rich

> told

> > us about? People on the cfs_research list know that it is causing

> me

> > to herx. I called Wellness Health and they told me this is common

> so

> > that would be an indicator I was low on GSH. I was wondering if

> > others using it, was also having herxing?

> > >

> > > Bob

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

hi. Goatien is non bovine dairy substance similar to ImmunePro, not

sure how much glutathione precursor it provides but I'm hoping some.

My admittedly limited knowledge is that reduced glutathione maybe

can't be absorbed. Lipoceutical is expensive stuff from one company

only.

You know how to use the search engine in this group at the home site?

Put in lipoceutical glutathione and read Rich's posts, they are very

informative.

Helen

> > > > Is anyone else using this new form of gluthathione which

Rich

> > told

> > > us about? People on the cfs_research list know that it is

causing

> > me

> > > to herx. I called Wellness Health and they told me this is

common

> > so

> > > that would be an indicator I was low on GSH. I was wondering

if

> > > others using it, was also having herxing?

> > > >

> > > > Bob

> > > >

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> > > >

[Guest guest]

My adult son has been taking it for a while now. It appears to make

him a lot more interactive. I've been very pleased with it! I give

him 1/2 tsp every morning before he gets up.

>

> Can anyone please describe their child's response when lipoceutical

> gluathione has been added? We are very close to using this

> supplement but want to hear feedback before we do.