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Generally, anything that makes Beth's world really move, makes her

calm and happy. Beth does more spinning than anything else. When

the OT was helping her learn what calmed her, the OT spun her on a

platform swing. Beth didn't get dizzy at all, but would have fallen

asleep if the OT had kept spinning her. Beth does like to jump

also. Now that she's 10, she's finally good at jumping rope.

Kirsten

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> Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is like

a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He jumps

all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on this

subject. Thanks again everyone.

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If jumping were a clinical diagnosis factor, 92% of my son's K class

would be on the road to diagnosis!

Actually, I would say that the jumping is more of a sensory thing -

they like the input of the impact to their bodies. If you give him

proper sensory input - like making him jump on a trampoline for 5

minutes, will he walk " normally " after that?

>

> Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is

like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on

this subject. Thanks again everyone.

>

> Leighanne

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My son, 9 yr old AS, loves to jump. Santa brought him a trampoline 2

Christmas's ago. And every afternoon after school, he jumps for about an hour.

I tell everyone that we don't do anything, including homework, until he's had a

chance to jump. You can see a difference in his behavior after he's had the

chance to jump. I have told repeatedly, that if I (mom) had known he would like

a trampoline so much, I would have gotten one long before Santa decided to bring

him one :) .

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My 7yr old AS jumps alot, but mainly when he is excited or overstimulated. His

favorite jumping spot is in front of the TV. He also gets so excited in front of

the TV that he runs around and comes back to watch more. We limit his TV to 30

min a day because of overstimulation. He jumps alot on the trampoline. I really

consider it a great tool! Lori

Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...> wrote: Ok guys,

I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not too long ago and

it said that chilren with autism jumped around a lot. They did that and/or the

hand flapping. It was supposed to be one of the things to look for. I was just

wondering if anyone else has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot.

is like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on this subject.

Thanks again everyone.

Leighanne

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My 8yr old is the same way since he could stand up and jump. He loves to be

very close to the TV or goes on circles around a table. He does this while

studying his spelling words. How can he concentrates and learn his words is a

wonder to me. He still flaps his hands and he hits a lot out of excitement.

Instead of giving you a hug, he will come running and tap/hit on you several

times. It annoys the heck out of us.

Hope this helps you.

Idelice

lori jennings <lozzy3us@...> wrote:

My 7yr old AS jumps alot, but mainly when he is excited or overstimulated. His

favorite jumping spot is in front of the TV. He also gets so excited in front of

the TV that he runs around and comes back to watch more. We limit his TV to 30

min a day because of overstimulation. He jumps alot on the trampoline. I really

consider it a great tool! Lori

Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...> wrote: Ok guys,

I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not too long ago and

it said that chilren with autism jumped around a lot. They did that and/or the

hand flapping. It was supposed to be one of the things to look for. I was just

wondering if anyone else has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot.

is like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on this subject.

Thanks again everyone.

Leighanne

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Hand flapping is also a sign of a sensory issue. While many kids who

are on the spectrum have some hand flapping, not all kids who

occasionally hand flap are autistic. Neither flapping nor jumping are

diagnostic factors for ASD. Sensory issues are common with apraxia,

which is probably why a decent number of apraxic children are mistaken

for being on the Spectrum.

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Mom to , 2.9 years, Developmental Verbal Dyspraxia

& , 7 months

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Subject: [ ] Re: Do Children with autism jump a lot?

*may be a silly ? I know*

If jumping were a clinical diagnosis factor, 92% of my son's K class

would be on the road to diagnosis!

Actually, I would say that the jumping is more of a sensory thing -

they like the input of the impact to their bodies. If you give him

proper sensory input - like making him jump on a trampoline for 5

minutes, will he walk " normally " after that?

>

> Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is

like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on

this subject. Thanks again everyone.

>

> Leighanne

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My ds when she was 7 through about 10 jumped around a lot when she was excited.

She had control it seemed that if it were really inappropriate she would stop

soon after she got started. There were comments about how much energy she had. I

think she stopped that behavior at around 10 though. My ds is an aspie. Ritalin

seemed to have no effect on that behavior. Or rather I didn't even notice that

behavior until she was already on ritalin.

lori jennings <lozzy3us@...> wrote: My 7yr old AS jumps alot, but mainly

when he is excited or overstimulated. His favorite jumping spot is in front of

the TV. He also gets so excited in front of the TV that he runs around and comes

back to watch more. We limit his TV to 30 min a day because of overstimulation.

He jumps alot on the trampoline. I really consider it a great tool! Lori

Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...> wrote: Ok guys,

I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not too long ago and

it said that chilren with autism jumped around a lot. They did that and/or the

hand flapping. It was supposed to be one of the things to look for. I was just

wondering if anyone else has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot.

is like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on this subject.

Thanks again everyone.

Leighanne

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Hello all, I'm new to the group but wanted to comment that my 4 year old son

does the exact same thing, jumps around alot, especially in front of the TV. He

waves his hands around and makes the loudest 'ah and oh sounds' (his blood

pressure must raise because as he makes these sounds his face turns pink). The

thing is, I have always tried to discourage the behavior and now he always looks

at me back and forth to see if I'm watching him. It's like he knows it's

unappropriate but cant help himself. Is this something that can be stopped

gently, I dont want to be on his case all the time but it drives me crazy, to

the point that there are some tv programs/ videos ( the tank engine his

favorite, Blue's Clues, Kipper, to name a few) he cannot watch.

Many thanks

Heifner <blueareviolets@...> wrote:

My ds when she was 7 through about 10 jumped around a lot when she was

excited. She had control it seemed that if it were really inappropriate she

would stop soon after she got started. There were comments about how much energy

she had. I think she stopped that behavior at around 10 though. My ds is an

aspie. Ritalin seemed to have no effect on that behavior. Or rather I didn't

even notice that behavior until she was already on ritalin.

lori jennings <lozzy3us@...> wrote: My 7yr old AS jumps alot, but mainly

when he is excited or overstimulated. His favorite jumping spot is in front of

the TV. He also gets so excited in front of the TV that he runs around and comes

back to watch more. We limit his TV to 30 min a day because of overstimulation.

He jumps alot on the trampoline. I really consider it a great tool! Lori

Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...> wrote: Ok guys,

I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not too long ago and

it said that chilren with autism jumped around a lot. They did that and/or the

hand flapping. It was supposed to be one of the things to look for. I was just

wondering if anyone else has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot.

is like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on this subject.

Thanks again everyone.

Leighanne

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I think each kid has their own thing they do - mine would spin

around when he was talking about a subject he was really interested

in. He'd face you, then spin around once back to the front for a

second, then do it again.

>

> Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is

like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on

this subject. Thanks again everyone.

>

> Leighanne

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Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not too long ago

and it said

that chilren with autism jumped around a lot. They did that and/or the hand

flapping. It was

supposed to be one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone

else has seen

this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot.

Haven't seen the movie, but mine is a jumper. Not as much as when he was

younger, but

when he is excited, he jumps. He has a mini-tramp at school where he goes to

jump for 10

mins every day before school. We have one at home, too.

Jackie

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Haven't seen the movie, but jumping could also be a sensory issue.

Unfortunately, a lot of the individual symptoms overlap.

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> Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is

like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on

this subject. Thanks again everyone.

>

> Leighanne

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I agree- each child is different. My child blinks his eyes really quickly when

he gets overstimulated, loud noises, to many people, stressful situation, etc.

Misty Gillispie

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( ) Re: Do Children with autism jump a lot? *may be a

silly ? I know*

I think each kid has their own thing they do - mine would spin

around when he was talking about a subject he was really interested

in. He'd face you, then spin around once back to the front for a

second, then do it again.

>

> Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is

like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on

this subject. Thanks again everyone.

>

> Leighanne

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hi leighanne,

yes its true children with autism do jump a lot, especially off of things.

another sign that goes with jumping off of things is no fear of heights. they

climb to get high and jump off. def a senory thing. I'm a sped teacher who

works autistic children so i ve seen it a lot.

is your child autistic?

chris

Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...> wrote:

Ok guys,

I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not too long ago

and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a lot. They did that and/or

the hand flapping. It was supposed to be one of the things to look for. I was

just wondering if anyone else has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a

lot. is like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks.

He jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on this

subject. Thanks again everyone.

Leighanne

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makes a great distinction: sensory seeking vs. sensory

seeking with a lack of awareness/self-regulation. My son is not on

the spectrum, but has so many facets that mirror autism, it's

difficult for the uninformed or lay folk to see how he's NOT. My

son does jump alot - needs alot of sensory input. He has not,

however, EVER gotten himself into a situation that is dangerous. He

has a healthy fear of heights - not so much as to be terrified (like

his mom) but enough to keep him out of the upper reaches of the

trees. He will also climb up to parts of the playground where he

sees other kids jumping. Once up, he'll assess and decide that it's

not for him and he'll climb back down to a reasonable height and

then jump.

On the other hand, a symptom of ADHD is that the child is so

impulsive as to jump from high places before the " Oh CRAP! I

shouldn't have done THAT! " sets in!

It's often not the ACTION but the reason behind the action...

Marina

> Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is

like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on

this subject. Thanks again everyone.

>

> Leighanne

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My guy Jumped due to the need for sensory input. Jumping decreased once he got

that input

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Date: Thu Mar 30 10:59:17 CST 2006

Subject: [ ] Re: Do Children with autism jump a lot? *may be a

silly ? I know*

Haven't seen the movie, but jumping could also be a sensory issue.

Unfortunately, a lot of the individual symptoms overlap.ย 

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> Ok guys,

>ย ย  I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is

like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on

this subject. Thanks again everyone.

>ย ย ย 

>ย ย  Leighanne

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Good points! And Leighanne, no questions is silly, but most questions have

more than one answer as you witnessed so far with the replies.

(or they lead you to more questions!)

I believe in keeping your eyes open and being aware of the warning

signs, but I also believe in not assuming everything is due to a

syndrome, impairment or disorder. If we examined " normal " children

all over we would find something to worry about in just about every

single one. Nobody is perfect -that's normal!

Not sure at 3 if your child already is in any type of preschool but

tis the season to teach children to hop in the classrooms for the

school Spring recitals that go on across the US. You know what I

mean don't you? The ones where the children sing songs and " dance "

(which for a preschool child means stepping side to side, waving

their hands and/or hopping around in tune to the music)

But perhaps that's not it. Perhaps your child just like to hop.

Perhaps it's sensory seeking. I know as a group the neighborhood

kids where I grew up would all be " sensory seeking " We'd roll over

and over, faster and faster all the way down this big grassy hill by

our home and then try to stand up - walk around in circles with the

world spinning around, fall over laughing. We'd run back up the

hill as soon as we had our balance and do it again (perhaps why I'm

so ride crazy today! I'm still sensory seeking!) I can't imagine

someone looking out the window and saying " Look at those children!

They are all autistic! "

How does your child transition from the jumping. For example when

he's jumping do you ever join him? If you do and shouted out in

glee " Wow, this so much fun to hop like a rabbit....HEY I have a

great idea! Let's try to trot like a pony now! (then do it and see

if he copies you) Or let's slither like a snake! (do it and see if

he copies you) Or let's walk like a puppy dog!

And along those lines

" Let your toddlers and preschoolers see how much fun you can have

while being active. Don't just run with them. Run like a gorilla.

Walk like a spider. Hop like a bunny. Stretch like a cat. "

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fitness/FL00030

Not that this had anything to do with this post -but in another you

say " is 3 years old and I have never been able to get him to

say his own name.

Well he said it tonight while we were laying down to go to bed. I

don't think

I've ever been more happy or proud as I was then. He still doesn't

quite

understand that that's his name and that that is for him cause I'd

ask him

what's your name and he'd say Mommy, I'd say no that's my name and

point to

myself and then I'd say whats YOUR name and point to him and he'd

say ANDU LOL "

I know you are so proud of him -but how are you so

sure he doesn't quite understand that it's his name when he says

it? If he is speech impaired he could for example call

everything " ba " or " ma " and that doesn't mean that they believe

everything is a ba or a ma -but that's all they are able to say

perhaps.

You also say in another recent post:

" Well I was still there when the ST got the message so she came and

talked to me

for a minute. I told her that I had some concerns about his oral

motor functions

and that his ECI therapists had had some concerns as well. She asked

me what

concerns I had and I told her that he was unable to make an accurate

kissing

face, he can't touch the outside of his cheeks or his nose with his

tongue, he

chokes because he over stuffs his mouth and those types of concerns.

She said

that they don't worry about the outside of the face but more about

getting him

to talk more and getting to where he can be understood. She asked me

can he make

the D and T sound and I said yes but I don't it's a really strong

sound. She

said if you were to put Peanut butter on his upper palate would he

be able to

lick it off and I said that I had tried that before and he wasn't

able to do it.

He doesn't blow bubbles that well either. "

To me it appears you need to seek a private evaluation from

professionals who are skilled and knowledgeable about all

multifaceted communication impairments. From what you wrote above

your child clearly is showing signs of having oral motor

dysfunction. In addition in that same message you say that in spite

of the fact that the school recognizes your child as " sensory

seeking " he is entitled to no occupational therapy. Have you read

The Late Talker book to help teach you how to advocate for

appropriate services?

And finally you wrote " My son recently had an eval with the local

school

district's Preschool Program for Children with Disabilities. The ST

that did the

speech part of the eval said that he had no problems with his

receptive language

skills but that his expressive language skills were delayed. She

also said that

he does syllabal reduction and drops the ends off of his words. She

also said

that he has Phonological Processing Disorder, but when I asked her

about

Apraxia, she said she didn't see it in him. He also has some serious

oral motor

issues. So what is the difference, if any, between the 2. thanks

everyone. "

It certainly once again sounds like an impairment of speech is going

on. Anyone can diagnose autism or apraxia and doesn't mean the

diagnosis is accurate.

Outside of jumping and hand flapping anything else you see that

would make you suspect autism?

Oh...

and if hopping is a sign of autism -lots of autistic children all

over the world helping to raise money for various charities through

Hop-A-Thons! Like this one

http://liverpooldailynews.com/index.php/liverpool/news/good_kids/wfe_hops_to_the\

_tune_of_9_000_for_the_mda

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No, my son doesn't jump a lot, and I haven't seen a lot of jumping in

the other children with autism that I know.

Hand flapping is probably more common, but again I know a lot of

children with autism who have never done it.

>

> Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not too

long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a lot.

They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be one of

the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen

this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is like a little

rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He jumps all the

time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on this subject.

Thanks again everyone.

>

> Leighanne

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I have a question for anyone that can answer. My son seems to have a weird fear

of things, for example I was eating these barbecue pistaccio nuts the other day,

and my son was totally terrified of the shells, is this a sensory issue? He is

also afraid of the vacuum cleaner, which is kind of understandable, and he fears

the ceiling fan that is kind of low in my husband's grandmother's house. My son

could be sitting watching a Leap Frog Math Circus video and he would just start

crying, I don't know if something on the video scared him or what. Are these all

sensory-related? If so it is not out of control or unmanageable.

marina3029 <philipmary@...> wrote: makes a great distinction:

sensory seeking vs. sensory

seeking with a lack of awareness/self-regulation. My son is not on

the spectrum, but has so many facets that mirror autism, it's

difficult for the uninformed or lay folk to see how he's NOT. My

son does jump alot - needs alot of sensory input. He has not,

however, EVER gotten himself into a situation that is dangerous. He

has a healthy fear of heights - not so much as to be terrified (like

his mom) but enough to keep him out of the upper reaches of the

trees. He will also climb up to parts of the playground where he

sees other kids jumping. Once up, he'll assess and decide that it's

not for him and he'll climb back down to a reasonable height and

then jump.

On the other hand, a symptom of ADHD is that the child is so

impulsive as to jump from high places before the " Oh CRAP! I

shouldn't have done THAT! " sets in!

It's often not the ACTION but the reason behind the action...

Marina

> Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is

like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on

this subject. Thanks again everyone.

>

> Leighanne

>

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Hi Benetta!

I was once told that for a child with sensory issues, the world is a

very scary place. What looks, sounds, feels (for example) like

nothing to us can be painful to them. Each time someone taps your

shoulder it will feel the same. One may tap it harder than another,

one may have colder hands, but in general to us a tap on the

shoulder is just that. To someone with sensory integration

dysfunction, a light tap can feel excruciating. I can vouch for this

with my son Tanner. His sense of touch was messed up backwards.

What should have caused tears and crying -like say getting shots, or

when he was playing with Dakota and by accident ran into a door and

needed stitches on his eyebrow, Tanner didn't cry (Dakota screamed

at that one that's how we knew!)

On the other hand...

Tanner would cry in pain if you tried to tickle him or

patted him on the head or rubbed his back softly. He now appears to

crave some of the things he never experienced the right way as a

child.

For years however Tanner LOVED to hold soft stuff, LOVED anything

that vibrated on his face -strong vibrations to his face that would

freak out any one of us he craved. That and much more were all part

of his therapy for his DSI.

Tanner used to carry around some small object with him all day. God

forbid you tried to take it away! All his teachers and therapists

knew about Tanner and his holding of small objects back then. If he

looked like he was asleep I'd v.e.r.y. carefully try to take the

small object (like a plastic pen cap!) out of his hand so that he

wouldn't choke on it in his sleep. If he was still awake at all -

total breakdown screams.

What was I told about that? That as long as he held that one object

it would feel the same. The minute it was out of his hand he no

longer had that comfort of something feeling the same. Taking it

away from him was removing his sense of security. Is that true?

You know what I have no clue. I know that it appeared to be true.

I and nobody else forced Tanner to stop carrying his small objects

around, and after a few months of sensory therapy, he stopped

carrying stuff around.

Today Tanner loves certain things he

avoided as a child. He loves if you tickle or rub his back for

example. Most times doesn't say " ow " if you pat his head soft.

Sensory integration dysfunction or DSI (not called SID anymore so as

not to confuse with sudden infant death) is something that can be

overcome with various therapies such as brushing. A good

occupational examination from someone who is knowledgeable about

sensory integration dysfunction will probably let you know. I also

recommend a good neuroMD exam as well. If you have sensory issues

together with a late talker -it's most likely more than just a

phonological disorder or a simple delay in speech. Today we are

seeing more " late talkers " with soft signs like sensory integration

dysfunction with multifaceted communication impairments.

So back to your original question. You would be best to be able to

recognize which sense perhaps he is having difficulty with. Is it

the sound of you opening the pistachio nuts,vacuum cleaner etc.

Does he hold his ears while he cries. It could be a certain

frequency that hurt him -not just bothers him but hurts him -so he

would be terrified of it.

Is it possible that it's not sensory related and he's just " out of

control or unmanageable " I'd say that DSI is the more logical

reason.

(that is unless of course he's had barbecued pistachio nuts thrown

at him while someone vacuumed the rug while he was trying to watch a

Leap Frog Math Circus video)

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My son jumped around a lot. More so than

the hand flapping. He mostly did the toe walking and jumping.

-Charlotte

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Leighanne Ratliff

Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006

11:46 PM

To:

children_with_autism

Subject: Do

Children with autism jump a lot? *may be a silly ? I know*

Ok guys,

I watched this movie called The Different Shades of

Autism not too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be one of the

things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this movie and

if your child(ren) jump a lot. is like a little rabbit. He jumps around

a lot more than he walks. He jumps all the time. Well I would greatly

appreciate your input on this subject. Thanks again everyone.

Leighanne

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does not have autism, and when she was little she used to jump

a lot. We really had to watch her around pools because she would

jump right in.

When she could swim, we let her go off a high dive diving board, and

she loved it.

She's always loved trampolines and bounce houses.

She is a total sensory seeking kid (loves the roller coasters)!

> > Ok guys,

> > I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

> too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

> lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

> one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

> has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is

> like a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He

> jumps all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on

> this subject. Thanks again everyone.

> >

> > Leighanne

> >

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LOL LOL LOL That last part is hilarious. You mentioned brushing, I've heard

people mention that before. Can I use any type of brush, and what exactly does

this do for him? Thank you for your response. My son was actually dx with severe

E/R disorder. The developmental pediatrician that I took my son to said that he

thinks that my son is mentally retarded. My son is currently in a regular

preschool, but I am currently going through the processs of having my son

evaluated by Chicago Public Schools for ST through special ed. That was one of

the recommendations made to me by EI and this developmental ped. I am starting

to think that my son is not mentally retarded because he can survive in a

regular preschool with no complaints at all from his teachers, they are

concerned about his speech but that is it. I also see a child who

likes drums, who shares, who is coming out of his social shell, who have no

major behavioral problems, and is very determined. I'm sorry for the long

response I guess I needed to get that off of my chest. You know once you get

mentally retarded in your head it is hard to get it out.

Thank you for listening and responding

Benetta

BTW I am so happy to hear how far your son has come along. I suspect that my

little guy Pierce may be apraxic. I've been hearing people say lately they

don't dx apraxia until after 3yrs. Is this true? Pierce is 3.4

kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> wrote:

Hi Benetta!

I was once told that for a child with sensory issues, the world is a

very scary place. What looks, sounds, feels (for example) like

nothing to us can be painful to them. Each time someone taps your

shoulder it will feel the same. One may tap it harder than another,

one may have colder hands, but in general to us a tap on the

shoulder is just that. To someone with sensory integration

dysfunction, a light tap can feel excruciating. I can vouch for this

with my son Tanner. His sense of touch was messed up backwards.

What should have caused tears and crying -like say getting shots, or

when he was playing with Dakota and by accident ran into a door and

needed stitches on his eyebrow, Tanner didn't cry (Dakota screamed

at that one that's how we knew!)

On the other hand...

Tanner would cry in pain if you tried to tickle him or

patted him on the head or rubbed his back softly. He now appears to

crave some of the things he never experienced the right way as a

child.

For years however Tanner LOVED to hold soft stuff, LOVED anything

that vibrated on his face -strong vibrations to his face that would

freak out any one of us he craved. That and much more were all part

of his therapy for his DSI.

Tanner used to carry around some small object with him all day. God

forbid you tried to take it away! All his teachers and therapists

knew about Tanner and his holding of small objects back then. If he

looked like he was asleep I'd v.e.r.y. carefully try to take the

small object (like a plastic pen cap!) out of his hand so that he

wouldn't choke on it in his sleep. If he was still awake at all -

total breakdown screams.

What was I told about that? That as long as he held that one object

it would feel the same. The minute it was out of his hand he no

longer had that comfort of something feeling the same. Taking it

away from him was removing his sense of security. Is that true?

You know what I have no clue. I know that it appeared to be true.

I and nobody else forced Tanner to stop carrying his small objects

around, and after a few months of sensory therapy, he stopped

carrying stuff around.

Today Tanner loves certain things he

avoided as a child. He loves if you tickle or rub his back for

example. Most times doesn't say " ow " if you pat his head soft.

Sensory integration dysfunction or DSI (not called SID anymore so as

not to confuse with sudden infant death) is something that can be

overcome with various therapies such as brushing. A good

occupational examination from someone who is knowledgeable about

sensory integration dysfunction will probably let you know. I also

recommend a good neuroMD exam as well. If you have sensory issues

together with a late talker -it's most likely more than just a

phonological disorder or a simple delay in speech. Today we are

seeing more " late talkers " with soft signs like sensory integration

dysfunction with multifaceted communication impairments.

So back to your original question. You would be best to be able to

recognize which sense perhaps he is having difficulty with. Is it

the sound of you opening the pistachio nuts,vacuum cleaner etc.

Does he hold his ears while he cries. It could be a certain

frequency that hurt him -not just bothers him but hurts him -so he

would be terrified of it.

Is it possible that it's not sensory related and he's just " out of

control or unmanageable " I'd say that DSI is the more logical

reason.

(that is unless of course he's had barbecued pistachio nuts thrown

at him while someone vacuumed the rug while he was trying to watch a

Leap Frog Math Circus video)

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Not silly.

Both my kids do alot of jumping to the point that I had to buy a kids

trampoline. Now that my daughter's done with it my son loves it. I

think it's more for the sensory part.

-- In Autism and Aspergers Treatment , Leighanne Ratliff

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>

> Ok guys,

> I watched this movie called The Different Shades of Autism not

too long ago and it said that chilren with autism jumped around a

lot. They did that and/or the hand flapping. It was supposed to be

one of the things to look for. I was just wondering if anyone else

has seen this movie and if your child(ren) jump a lot. is like

a little rabbit. He jumps around a lot more than he walks. He jumps

all the time. Well I would greatly appreciate your input on this

subject. Thanks again everyone.

>

> Leighanne

>

>

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My 9 1/2 year old does body flips on the furniture while he watches TV and

when he enters the living room and family room, he also does flips when he

goes down the hall way. He watches us too , to see if we are watching him.

We told him he could do his flips in the basement instead of where he is

doing it but he seems compelled to do it upstairs. Our basement is finished

so it's not like it is a bad place to do it. He used to spin on the coffee

table but the flips have replaced that behavior.

Suzanne

-- Re: ( ) Do Children with autism jump a lot? *may be

a silly ? I know*

Hello all, I'm new to the group but wanted to comment that my 4 year old son

does the exact same thing, jumps around alot, especially in front of the TV.

He waves his hands around and makes the loudest 'ah and oh sounds' (his

blood pressure must raise because as he makes these sounds his face turns

pink). The thing is, I have always tried to discourage the behavior and now

he always looks at me back and forth to see if I'm watching him. It's like

he knows it's unappropriate but cant help himself. Is this something that

can be stopped gently, I dont want to be on his case all the time but it

drives me crazy, to the point that there are some tv programs/ videos

( the tank engine his favorite, Blue's Clues, Kipper, to name a few)

he cannot watch.

Many thanks

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Is this something he is aware of then? Can he help himself? I mean, since he's

watching me watching him, I dont kow if it's something he can control or not and

I dont know what to do about it. I have tried to discourage it but nothing

works, and if he can't help it then I want to know how to help him.

Thanks

Suzanne <suzannex6@...> wrote:

My 9 1/2 year old does body flips on the furniture while he watches TV and

when he enters the living room and family room, he also does flips when he

goes down the hall way. He watches us too , to see if we are watching him.

We told him he could do his flips in the basement instead of where he is

doing it but he seems compelled to do it upstairs. Our basement is finished

so it's not like it is a bad place to do it. He used to spin on the coffee

table but the flips have replaced that behavior.

Suzanne

-- Re: ( ) Do Children with autism jump a lot? *may be

a silly ? I know*

Hello all, I'm new to the group but wanted to comment that my 4 year old son

does the exact same thing, jumps around alot, especially in front of the TV.

He waves his hands around and makes the loudest 'ah and oh sounds' (his

blood pressure must raise because as he makes these sounds his face turns

pink). The thing is, I have always tried to discourage the behavior and now

he always looks at me back and forth to see if I'm watching him. It's like

he knows it's unappropriate but cant help himself. Is this something that

can be stopped gently, I dont want to be on his case all the time but it

drives me crazy, to the point that there are some tv programs/ videos

( the tank engine his favorite, Blue's Clues, Kipper, to name a few)

he cannot watch.

Many thanks

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