I swear, I am going to kill someone

January 24, 2003

Georga:

Unbelievable.

Well, not, unfortunately.

Right after Lou and I were separated, my mother hired a cleaning service for

me as she could see that I was feeling overwhelmed.

I loved it and the lady who ran it was SO nice.

Unfortunately she sold the business. And the first visit that that woman

made to my house, she called CPS. Mind, my house had been being cleaned

professionally every week for about nine months, and how seriously dirty was

it going to be? Not very...

And she refused to clean my house which was all prepared for cleaning. My

friends all came over and we had a big weekend house cleaning party which

was actually a lot of fun and when I let CPS in on Monday my house was about

as clean as it has ever been, even down to freshly painted kitchen cupboards

(my friends kind of went overboard; I rather think that a quick vacuum of

the house would have been good enough for CPS because when you have

professional cleaning you pick everything up anyway). I had cinnamon

muffins in the oven and I gave the CPS workers one while they told me what a

lovely home I had.

I definitely felt it was harassment though NOT CPS's fault in my case.

Salli

January 24, 2003

> My question is why in the world would the woman who bought the business

call CPS? I want to know what she was thinking?

>

My house was too much work. Her business primarily consisted of cleaning

the already clean houses of working couples. When I argued with her about

her dropping cleaning my house, she just got mad and wanted to punish me.

Shouldn't have argued of course because why would I want to hire someone

like that anyway, but all I could think was that the house was already to

clean.

Oh, and she offered me help and it turned out to be psychological

counselling. I burst into tears when she refused to clean my house (my

sister had just died a few days earlier and I was in a more emotional state

than usual as it really is not the kind of thing that I would normally do).

> I really want to know what anyone thinks who does that to someone else

under false assumptions.

>

She was just hateful. I told her why I needed housecleaning help: five kids,

no husband, kid with autism who needed, in those days, a LOT of watching and

she told me that she had four kids, one of whom had cerebral palsy, and a

husband who worked long hours and SHE was coping so what was my problem?

Only later did I wonder just how closely she had to watch the kid with CP

(assuming that was not a lie too) and if she ever found her kid with CP

jumping on the roof of her van...

> What we are trying to understand is how in the hell someone from CA could

make a call to MD and make a report when she has NO basis for anything,

never been in the house, never met or any of the kids and for CPS to

take it seriously.

>

No idea. Some people are just plain hateful.

> A friend of mine in Alabama at the time (I think that is where she was)

had let another friend and her children stay with her temporarly and she

first hand seen neglect and abuse (it was really bad) and when this person

and her kids moved out to live with her oldest child in NY my friend made a

complaint and they told her they couldn't do anything about it since it was

coming from out of state.

>

> So how in the hell does this work?

>

Only invalid and harassing out of state complaints are allowed?

Salli

January 24, 2003

Georga,

It's BECAUSE you're homeschooling and bucking the system. They don't like

that. Your " friend " probably looks at you and sees Yates. People can

imagine all sorts of things in their minds. CPS probably looked at you and

saw Yates too.

One schizophrenic nut decides to kill her children because she's " thinks

they're disabled " and the whole freaking world looks at mothers with

suspicion.

Nobody will ever convince me that Yates' husband is not on the

spectrum. He's a NASA scientist after all.

I bet at least one or two if her kids were too since she said " she felt like

they were disabled. " I bet she was right.

Anyway, I'm sure that case has a lot to do with CPS and your " friend's "

attitude.

Assholes.

Your " friend " is a busybody dyke by the way.

Sissi -- making her own assumptions

January 24, 2003

> Only later did I wonder just how closely she had to watch the kid with CP

> (assuming that was not a lie too) and if she ever found her kid with CP

> jumping on the roof of her van...

I can tell you exactly how many times that happened.

ZERO!!!

My nephew Ray-Ray that I'm always talking about also has CP (fairly mild

case compared to some I've seen) and he can't even jump on a trampoline

unaided.

Sissi

January 24, 2003

I called CPS (called DFACS here-- Department of Family and Childrens

Services) when Boone's lunch was being withheld and when he was being held

to the floor.

Since I was reporting a school system employee, our county called in an

investigator from another county for an unbiased investigation.

The woman was terrific. She came here, talked to me, talked to my kids,

talked to my husband and even attended an IEP meeting with me and my lawyer.

We had ten minutes advance notice that she was coming. The house looked like

it normally does.

She told me she thought I was amazing and she didn't know how I managed

everything. I told her I couldn't possibly manage without my daughter.

Maybe it was because I called her and not the other way around. Her only

concern was that Amber told her she wanted to get a real job and she was

worried that if she did that we'd have a to find someone else to be with

Boone after school. We had a weird experience with a sitter before and Amber

didn't really want anyone else besides her or my mom watching Boone.

When I told the invstigator how much I paid Amber for the amount of work she

does, she wasn't too concerned that Amber would get a better job. (She was

getting $75 a week to take Boone to school in the a.m. and get him off the

school bus in the afternoon. She stayed with him until I got home from work

around five and that's only three days a week.)

Amber did get another job (she works for my best friend at the country club

on weekends) but she still watches Boone when she gets home from school

three days a week so I can get some work done. She only gets $50 a week from

me now.

Now that I've gotten completely away from the point I was trying to make,

I'll shut up.

Sissi

January 25, 2003

>

> I'm sure there are lots of lovely people in the cleaning business. I just

> happen to know some that are not. I never really intended to make such a

> sweeping statement.

Ha, ha, great pun considering the subject, but unintended I do believe?

Thanks for not coming down on me too hard!

Now that is something that Sue would not do to you!

Salli

January 25, 2003

Just not sure who I should kill first. That is the problem. I am really

stressed out to the point at the moment I want to puke. This is not good. I

think I better pull out the prozac again before I start having uncontrolable

panic attacks again. It bothers me that when things get bad of late that I have

to be medicated to keep from totaly loosing it.

Ok, I know that I have told part of this story here. Back in 2001 we had a

false report called into child protective services that we were not meeting the

developmental needs of children because Savannah was just diagonosed with ASD

and she wasn't automatically instutionalized. The report was called in by

someone who was supposed to be my best friend, who I have known since 3rd grade.

works with severely impared adults with a variety of issues so she thinks

she knows everything. She doesn't approve of me having a large family,

homeschooling (especially an ASD child, it just isn't right and she needs

professional help and blah blah blah), and that I actually have sex with my

husband and enjoy it (according to her ~ please don't laugh to hard, this is

really abusurd ~ I am repressed and abused by my husband because no woman in

their right mind would be pregnant as often as I have without being forced and

that was forcing me to have sex with him without protection and yadda

yadda yadda. Note here about , she is a year older than me, has never

been married and the only boyfriend that she has ever had was a psychopath who

raped her. All of her female friends are either gay or hate their husbands).

We got into an ugly fight on the phone one day (keep in mind that she lives in

CA and has never met or my children) and I told her to get her head out of

her ass. Next thing that I know there is a socail worker on my door step.

The social worker that showed up was an ex-teacher, decided that I should not be

homeschooling (it is rather anti-homeschooling around here. The county takes it

as a personal slap in the face that they are not being allowed to educate

children because the schools are so good. Yea, and this is why there is a Yahoo

group dedicated to everything that is wrong with the sped dept). This bitch

told me right to my face that I " have so many children that I can't possibly

take care of them all " . She decided that we needed this service and that

severice and tried to get them for us (such as WIC, renters assistance and some

other stuff that we DO NOT qualify for. She didn't believe us on that matter,

did not believe that my husband makes what he does, that we have excellent

health coverage, etc). The woman was a major pain in the ass. She gets

involved with the county on the homeschooling, forces (against COMAR) more

homeschooling reviews and so forth and between her and the school rep that did

our reviews (we are using an umbrella school now) tried to end our homeschooling

program without telling us (this way they could drag us into court on truancy

violations) and so forth. Went through a lot of crap on the homeschooling about

how our kids should be tested by the school and all kinds of other shit.

Basically, their agenda was to get my kids in school where they could get the

extra money for sped that they do NOT provide. One of the things that I found

out about the elm school that they would have attended was that all classes are

held in both English and Spanish because there are so many Latino immagrants

that can't speek English and they need to accomidate all the kids. Nothing

agaisnst the rather large Latino community here, but that is NOT the sort of

class that I want my kids in. I don't think that it is conductive to learning

(even if I did have some iota of faith in the public school system), especially

to autistic children.

This social worker turned our case over to someone else. This someone else was

ok really. She wasn't really a bitch or anything. She ended up quitting. I

don't think she was cut out for the job. She was to mellow and not the hardass

sort that you come to expect from CPS. We did not hear from CPS in like a year,

next thing we know we return home one day and there is a letter on the door from

another social worker that the case was handed to. We called our laywer at the

Home School Legal Defence Association and he got involved again. When the

worker was told that this case had basically turned into harassment and should

have been closed, and the lawyer denied him access to the kids he yelled at our

lawyer. I mean he really yelled at . was standing about 50 feet

away from the social workers car where he had all the windows rolled up where

couldn't hear the conversation and was yelling at so loud that Chris

could hear him! Well, here is the thing. When the guy did the inspection of

our house, he told that everything was fine. Turned around and told

that the house was dim, that there were no books in the house for the kids (the

asshole must be blind, there were 4 ~ 2 large and 2 small ~books in the house

for the kids. I am not kidding. Me. Not have books in the house??? I told

that there were books and the kids homeschooling stuff scattered in every

room of the house except the bathroom and that I could arrange) and some other

stupid shit. This socail worker is an asshole.

Well, yesterday comes home from work and tells me that he got a phone call

from . Turns out that this social worker is harassing that he *MUST*

see the kids in order to close the case. told him that we would not agree

to that unless he () was there because we did not trust this guy and that

it would be in a public place. That we would not allow the guy in the house.

I am just so sick of this crap. I am getting ready to file harassment charges

against the county!

ARGH! When will this ever end?

Georga Hackworth

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January 25, 2003

Man, I don't know what to say! We all have to address this, because

this could happen to ANY of us. What can we do for you Georga??

> Just not sure who I should kill first. That is the problem. I am

really stressed out to the point at the moment I want to puke. This

is not good. I think I better pull out the prozac again before I

start having uncontrolable panic attacks again. It bothers me that

when things get bad of late that I have to be medicated to keep from

totaly loosing it.

>

> Ok, I know that I have told part of this story here. Back in 2001

we had a false report called into child protective services that we

were not meeting the developmental needs of children because Savannah

was just diagonosed with ASD and she wasn't automatically

instutionalized. The report was called in by someone who was

supposed to be my best friend, who I have known since 3rd grade.

works with severely impared adults with a variety of issues so

she thinks she knows everything. She doesn't approve of me having a

large family, homeschooling (especially an ASD child, it just isn't

right and she needs professional help and blah blah blah), and that I

actually have sex with my husband and enjoy it (according to her ~

please don't laugh to hard, this is really abusurd ~ I am repressed

and abused by my husband because no woman in their right mind would

be pregnant as often as I have without being forced and that Chris

was forcing me to have sex with him without protection and yadda

yadda yadda. Note here about , she is a year older than me,

has never been married and the only boyfriend that she has ever had

was a psychopath who raped her. All of her female friends are either

gay or hate their husbands). We got into an ugly fight on the phone

one day (keep in mind that she lives in CA and has never met or

my children) and I told her to get her head out of her ass. Next

thing that I know there is a socail worker on my door step.

>

> The social worker that showed up was an ex-teacher, decided that I

should not be homeschooling (it is rather anti-homeschooling around

here. The county takes it as a personal slap in the face that they

are not being allowed to educate children because the schools are so

good. Yea, and this is why there is a Yahoo group dedicated to

everything that is wrong with the sped dept). This bitch told me

right to my face that I " have so many children that I can't possibly

take care of them all " . She decided that we needed this service and

that severice and tried to get them for us (such as WIC, renters

assistance and some other stuff that we DO NOT qualify for. She

didn't believe us on that matter, did not believe that my husband

makes what he does, that we have excellent health coverage, etc).

The woman was a major pain in the ass. She gets involved with the

county on the homeschooling, forces (against COMAR) more

homeschooling reviews and so forth and between her and the school rep

that did our reviews (we are using an umbrella school now) tried to

end our homeschooling program without telling us (this way they could

drag us into court on truancy violations) and so forth. Went through

a lot of crap on the homeschooling about how our kids should be

tested by the school and all kinds of other shit. Basically, their

agenda was to get my kids in school where they could get the extra

money for sped that they do NOT provide. One of the things that I

found out about the elm school that they would have attended was that

all classes are held in both English and Spanish because there are so

many Latino immagrants that can't speek English and they need to

accomidate all the kids. Nothing agaisnst the rather large Latino

community here, but that is NOT the sort of class that I want my kids

in. I don't think that it is conductive to learning (even if I did

have some iota of faith in the public school system), especially to

autistic children.

>

> This social worker turned our case over to someone else. This

someone else was ok really. She wasn't really a bitch or anything.

She ended up quitting. I don't think she was cut out for the job.

She was to mellow and not the hardass sort that you come to expect

from CPS. We did not hear from CPS in like a year, next thing we

know we return home one day and there is a letter on the door from

another social worker that the case was handed to. We called our

laywer at the Home School Legal Defence Association and he got

involved again. When the worker was told that this case had

basically turned into harassment and should have been closed, and the

lawyer denied him access to the kids he yelled at our lawyer. I mean

he really yelled at . was standing about 50 feet away

from the social workers car where he had all the windows rolled up

where couldn't hear the conversation and was yelling at

so loud that could hear him! Well, here is the thing. When

the guy did the inspection of our house, he told that

everything was fine. Turned around and told that the house was

dim, that there were no books in the house for the kids (the asshole

must be blind, there were 4 ~ 2 large and 2 small ~books in the house

for the kids. I am not kidding. Me. Not have books in the

house??? I told that there were books and the kids

homeschooling stuff scattered in every room of the house except the

bathroom and that I could arrange) and some other stupid shit. This

socail worker is an asshole.

>

> Well, yesterday comes home from work and tells me that he got

a phone call from . Turns out that this social worker is

harassing that he *MUST* see the kids in order to close the

case. told him that we would not agree to that unless he

() was there because we did not trust this guy and that it would

be in a public place. That we would not allow the guy in the house.

>

> I am just so sick of this crap. I am getting ready to file

harassment charges against the county!

> ARGH! When will this ever end?

>

> Georga Hackworth

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> www.ubah.com/F1549

>

January 25, 2003

My question is why in the world would the woman who bought the business call

CPS? I want to know what she was thinking?

I really want to know what anyone thinks who does that to someone else under

false assumptions.

What we are trying to understand is how in the hell someone from CA could make a

call to MD and make a report when she has NO basis for anything, never been in

the house, never met or any of the kids and for CPS to take it seriously.

A friend of mine in Alabama at the time (I think that is where she was) had let

another friend and her children stay with her temporarly and she first hand seen

neglect and abuse (it was really bad) and when this person and her kids moved

out to live with her oldest child in NY my friend made a complaint and they told

her they couldn't do anything about it since it was coming from out of state.

So how in the hell does this work?

Georga Hackworth

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