ProEFA Dosage

March 25, 2006

I have a son who is 4 years old, approximately 35 lbs., and recently

purchased ProEFA. Does anyone know the proper dosage for a child his

age/weight? He has been informally diagnosed with apraxia by his

speech pathologist.

March 26, 2006

Hi,

My daughter will be 4 years old in May and weighs 30 lbs. I've been giving

her 1/4 tsp daily of ProEFA. I called the manufacturer and that is what they

recommended. She has been diagnosed with dyspraxia.

[ ] ProEFA Dosage

I have a son who is 4 years old, approximately 35 lbs., and recently

purchased ProEFA. Does anyone know the proper dosage for a child his

age/weight? He has been informally diagnosed with apraxia by his

speech pathologist.

March 26, 2006

1/4 teaspoon may not be sufficient to see benefits or maximum benefits of

omega 3 supplements. We started out with 1/2 teaspoon, and have gone up

substantially since then, witnessing surges in coordination and speech with

each increase. -

[ ] ProEFA Dosage

I have a son who is 4 years old, approximately 35 lbs., and recently

purchased ProEFA. Does anyone know the proper dosage for a child his

age/weight? He has been informally diagnosed with apraxia by his

speech pathologist.

March 26, 2006

Interesting you would say that. I am thinking of upping my 2.1 year-

old's dose to two capsules a day. He got sick last week and the doctor

put him on a starvation diet of rice porridge only for a whole week.

Poor thing. Well, we had to stop the Pro-efa capsules. I looked for

signs of regression and actually saw some evidence of progress despite

him feeling weak and sickly. I resumed Pro-efa about five days ago, and

he is doing well, though I don't really think I can attribute it to the

capsules. We eat oily fish daily here in Japan, so it is difficult to

say how significant supplementing with the borage oil in such small

quantities is. Still, he likes taking the capsules (even asks for them

if I forget) and they aren't expensive, so I will be doubling the dose

once we get a new shipment. Incidentally, we have eliminated all

hydrogenated fats from his diet as well, and I cook all of his meals

from scratch.

He can now say a few more sounds. He says " Na " , " Ha " " Ma " and " A " , and

he makes good approximations of " W " and " F " , though he can't pair them

with a vowel. He is attempting many other sounds and words as well, but

mostly they are mouth movements with no sounds, though I can understand

what he is saying. I call it " lip gesturing " . He can say " Mama " when

prompted, but all other words he may or may not be able to say on

command. He is cognitively and receptively advanced, so I am optimistic

that he will respond well to speech therapy when the time comes. In the

mean time, I am his therapist, playing games with words and speech and

encouraging him to play along.

> 1/4 teaspoon may not be sufficient to see benefits or maximum

benefits of

> omega 3 supplements. We started out with 1/2 teaspoon, and have gone

up

> substantially since then, witnessing surges in coordination and

speech with

> each increase. -

>

March 26, 2006

I'd start with two capsules in the morning, but if you want to be

extra cautious start with one and then add the second the next week.

We had better results giving them both in the morning.

Peace,

Kathy E.

On Mar 26, 2006, at 12:24 AM, melissawiehe1973 wrote:

> I have a son who is 4 years old, approximately 35 lbs., and recently

> purchased ProEFA. Does anyone know the proper dosage for a child his

> age/weight? He has been informally diagnosed with apraxia by his

> speech pathologist.

>

March 26, 2006

Thank you for the dosage info. I really appreciate it! I'm so excited to

see if this works!

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kathleen Eickwort

Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:41 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] ProEFA Dosage

I'd start with two capsules in the morning, but if you want to be

extra cautious start with one and then add the second the next week.

We had better results giving them both in the morning.

Peace,

Kathy E.

On Mar 26, 2006, at 12:24 AM, melissawiehe1973 wrote:

> I have a son who is 4 years old, approximately 35 lbs., and recently

> purchased ProEFA. Does anyone know the proper dosage for a child his

> age/weight? He has been informally diagnosed with apraxia by his

> speech pathologist.

>

July 15, 2007

We've had a surge every time we've increased the dosage. We have now

maxed out in my opinion: 2 EFA and 1 EPA three times per day. That's

a lot, but it works for us. We also take vitamin K to prevent clotting

issues.

in NJ

>

> Hi,

>

> I am trying to decide what dosage of ProEfa to give my 4 year old

> 40lbs. Severe verbal apraxia, dev dyspraxia, fine motor dyspraxia,

> hypotonia, sensory integration disorder and dysarthria..

>

> We had him on it previously then took it off while having medical test

> blood test done.. now I want to start up again but before didn't see

> amazing results so thinking I want to get the dosage right.

>

> What has worked for yall ? and which product ? thanks !!!

>

> Annie

>

July 16, 2007

For what it's worth......

I switched my 8 yo son to a higher EPA dosage and saw a major regression. I

did some more research and found that most kids with neurological problems do

far better with a high DHA dosage, especially if you are dealing with global

dyspraxia. So I put him on a high DHA dosage and he is doing much better. I

have also seen better communication skills in my 3 yo on DHA rather than EPA.

Just FYI - no specific dosage recommendations for a 4 yo.

Kim with 4 cuties

trmckenna1 <trmckenna1@...> wrote:

Hi Annie:

Most here use Nordic Naturals brand...2 ProEFA and 1 ProEPA twice or three

times a day. Also think about adding vitamin e.

Here is some info for you to read over:

/message/52516

This archived message is one post of answers to frequent questions

about EFAs and vitamin e.

http://www.speech-express.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=620

Here is another archived message that goes into a lot of detail about

EFAs.

http://www.goestores.com/home.aspx?Merchant=shopinserviceinc2

This is site is cheaper to buy at than Nordic Naturals.

/message/55922

Archived message on dosage for vitamin E...the other link also covers

information on dosage for vitamin E.

All this is information plus more is in the links section under

Essential Fatty Acids and Vitamin E.

Hope this helps you,

Tina

>

> Hi,

>

> I am trying to decide what dosage of ProEfa to give my 4 year old

> 40lbs. Severe verbal apraxia, dev dyspraxia, fine motor dyspraxia,

> hypotonia, sensory integration disorder and dysarthria..

>

> We had him on it previously then took it off while having medical test

> blood test done.. now I want to start up again but before didn't see

> amazing results so thinking I want to get the dosage right.

>

> What has worked for yall ? and which product ? thanks !!!

>

> Annie

>

July 16, 2007

Kim...what amount of DHA are you using and what brand and form? Aggie

Re: [ ] Re: ProEfa dosage

For what it's worth......

I switched my 8 yo son to a higher EPA dosage and saw a major regression. I

did some more research and found that most kids with neurological problems do

far better with a high DHA dosage, especially if you are dealing with global

dyspraxia. So I put him on a high DHA dosage and he is doing much better. I have

also seen better communication skills in my 3 yo on DHA rather than EPA.

Just FYI - no specific dosage recommendations for a 4 yo.

Kim with 4 cuties

trmckenna1 <trmckenna1@...> wrote:

Hi Annie:

Most here use Nordic Naturals brand...2 ProEFA and 1 ProEPA twice or three

times a day. Also think about adding vitamin e.

Here is some info for you to read over:

/message/52516

This archived message is one post of answers to frequent questions

about EFAs and vitamin e.

http://www.speech-express.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=620

Here is another archived message that goes into a lot of detail about

EFAs.

http://www.goestores.com/home.aspx?Merchant=shopinserviceinc2

This is site is cheaper to buy at than Nordic Naturals.

/message/55922

Archived message on dosage for vitamin E...the other link also covers

information on dosage for vitamin E.

All this is information plus more is in the links section under

Essential Fatty Acids and Vitamin E.

Hope this helps you,

Tina

>

> Hi,

>

> I am trying to decide what dosage of ProEfa to give my 4 year old

> 40lbs. Severe verbal apraxia, dev dyspraxia, fine motor dyspraxia,

> hypotonia, sensory integration disorder and dysarthria..

>

> We had him on it previously then took it off while having medical test

> blood test done.. now I want to start up again but before didn't see

> amazing results so thinking I want to get the dosage right.

>

> What has worked for yall ? and which product ? thanks !!!

>

> Annie

>

July 16, 2007

Hey Kim

I was curious to know where you found your info on DHA. Everything I

have read talks about DHA being more important for brain development

in pregnancy and early years and EPA being more important for the

minute to minute brain function. I think it is wonderful that you found

something that is working for your son!!

Tina

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I am trying to decide what dosage of ProEfa to give my 4 year old

> > 40lbs. Severe verbal apraxia, dev dyspraxia, fine motor dyspraxia,

> > hypotonia, sensory integration disorder and dysarthria..

> >

> > We had him on it previously then took it off while having medical

test

> > blood test done.. now I want to start up again but before didn't

see

> > amazing results so thinking I want to get the dosage right.

> >

> > What has worked for yall ? and which product ? thanks !!!

> >

> > Annie

> >

>

July 16, 2007

Did you do this on your own?

bigcheech91 wrote:

>We've had a surge every time we've increased the dosage. We have now

>maxed out in my opinion: 2 EFA and 1 EPA three times per day. That's

>a lot, but it works for us. We also take vitamin K to prevent clotting

>issues.

>

> in NJ

>

>>Hi,

>>

>>I am trying to decide what dosage of ProEfa to give my 4 year old

>>40lbs. Severe verbal apraxia, dev dyspraxia, fine motor dyspraxia,

>>hypotonia, sensory integration disorder and dysarthria..

>>

>>We had him on it previously then took it off while having medical test

>>blood test done.. now I want to start up again but before didn't see

>>amazing results so thinking I want to get the dosage right.

>>

>>What has worked for yall ? and which product ? thanks !!!

>>

>>Annie

>>

>

July 17, 2007

Aggie, I'm a little loathe to start recommending brands and dosages. Really

none of this is very scientific and there haven't been enough studies done to

show what exact dosages anybody should be, using let alone what brand - this is

all trial and error.

There are a lot of brands out there that have high concentrations of DHA to

EPA, and just straight cod liver oil itself has high DHA to EPA. There is

Nordic Naturals Children's DHA (which has the advantage of coming in really

small ball-shaped pills for little guys) and Carlson for Kids Chewable DHA

(which I think are really gross to chew - bleh!). For older kids who can

swallow pills, there are adult versions of these as well. My kids really like

Gummy Omegalicious by Rainbow Light. These are basically like gummy fruit

snacks. They have about a 5:1 ratio of DHA to EPA. The dosages are small, but

there is absolutely no fight to get them down . The only thing about them is

they are made in Colombia....hmmmm..... But the owner and distributor is

American so I just hope they have tight standards controls!

Anyway, just look around and see what you can find. I'm not sure that I've

noticed much of a difference between brands as long as I keep the ratio at least

1:1 (though I shoot for 2:1) of DHA to EPA. Hope that helps!

Kim

Gene and Aggie Birocco <birocco@...> wrote:

Kim...what amount of DHA are you using and what brand and form? Aggie

Re: [ ] Re: ProEfa dosage

For what it's worth......

I switched my 8 yo son to a higher EPA dosage and saw a major regression. I did

some more research and found that most kids with neurological problems do far

better with a high DHA dosage, especially if you are dealing with global

dyspraxia. So I put him on a high DHA dosage and he is doing much better. I have

also seen better communication skills in my 3 yo on DHA rather than EPA.

Just FYI - no specific dosage recommendations for a 4 yo.

Kim with 4 cuties

trmckenna1 <trmckenna1@...> wrote:

Hi Annie:

Most here use Nordic Naturals brand...2 ProEFA and 1 ProEPA twice or three

times a day. Also think about adding vitamin e.

Here is some info for you to read over:

/message/52516

This archived message is one post of answers to frequent questions

about EFAs and vitamin e.

http://www.speech-express.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=620

Here is another archived message that goes into a lot of detail about

EFAs.

http://www.goestores.com/home.aspx?Merchant=shopinserviceinc2

This is site is cheaper to buy at than Nordic Naturals.

/message/55922

Archived message on dosage for vitamin E...the other link also covers

information on dosage for vitamin E.

All this is information plus more is in the links section under

Essential Fatty Acids and Vitamin E.

Hope this helps you,

Tina

>

> Hi,

>

> I am trying to decide what dosage of ProEfa to give my 4 year old

> 40lbs. Severe verbal apraxia, dev dyspraxia, fine motor dyspraxia,

> hypotonia, sensory integration disorder and dysarthria..

>

> We had him on it previously then took it off while having medical test

> blood test done.. now I want to start up again but before didn't see

> amazing results so thinking I want to get the dosage right.

>

> What has worked for yall ? and which product ? thanks !!!

>

> Annie

>

July 17, 2007

Tina,

There is actually quite a bit of information out there on this. Even if you

just follow the links on this group's website on Omega-3s, many of the articles

talk about the importance of DHA vs EPA. There are very few scientific studies

on the subject, but most of the ones that have been done in neurologically

challenged kids (not specifically apraxia) show they are deficient in DHA, not

EPA, and that increasing their DHA intake helps significantly. Even some of the

articles that address apraxia specifically speculate the higher EPA information

may be incorrect because DHA sometimes takes longer to see the effects. Some

people don't see immediate results with the DHA, switch to EPA, and then start

seeing results, possibly because the DHA is finally kicking in. I also know

many experts who work with neurologically challenged kids (Dianne Craft who runs

Child Diagnostics Inc and wrote the Brain Integration Therapy Manual comes

immediately to mind) recommend a higher DHA

to EPA ratio. In fact, the only place I have really seen the higher EPA to DHA

ratio touted is on this board. Like I said, I gave it a try and saw a severe

and immediate regression in my son who had previously made incredible progress.

I went back to the higher DHA levels and he is starting to come around again.

Just what I have read and what I've seen.

Kim

trmckenna1 <trmckenna1@...> wrote:

Hey Kim

I was curious to know where you found your info on DHA. Everything I

have read talks about DHA being more important for brain development

in pregnancy and early years and EPA being more important for the

minute to minute brain function. I think it is wonderful that you found

something that is working for your son!!

Tina

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I am trying to decide what dosage of ProEfa to give my 4 year old

> > 40lbs. Severe verbal apraxia, dev dyspraxia, fine motor dyspraxia,

> > hypotonia, sensory integration disorder and dysarthria..

> >

> > We had him on it previously then took it off while having medical

test

> > blood test done.. now I want to start up again but before didn't

see

> > amazing results so thinking I want to get the dosage right.

> >

> > What has worked for yall ? and which product ? thanks !!!

> >

> > Annie

> >

>

July 17, 2007

Hi Kim:

I find the fish oil subject very interesting...and for higher amounts

of DHA working for your son intrigues me. Is he on real high doses

of DHA without any EPA? My son responds better to just omega 3 vs.

omega 3 and omega 6. I commend you for going outside the box to find

something that works for your son. Like you mentioned in another

post it is trial and error. The reason I ask about the higher doses

of DHA is because DHA can be converted to EPA...which has been said

to help with the day to day function of the brain , and I have read

EPA is quickly used up vs. DHA staying in the body longer. So most

articles that I have read has said EPA and DHA are important to

supplement together for their different functions. Are you also

supplementing vitamin E since it is not in Cod Liver Oil?

Below is a good article of the same information that I keep reading

in other articles.

http://ezinearticles.com/?EPA-Fish-Oil---Why-All-the-Fuss? & id=310653

Anyway...congrats to you for finding something that works for your

son.

Tina

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I am trying to decide what dosage of ProEfa to give my 4 year

old

> > > 40lbs. Severe verbal apraxia, dev dyspraxia, fine motor

dyspraxia,

> > > hypotonia, sensory integration disorder and dysarthria..

> > >

> > > We had him on it previously then took it off while having

medical

> test

> > > blood test done.. now I want to start up again but before

didn't

> see

> > > amazing results so thinking I want to get the dosage right.

> > >

> > > What has worked for yall ? and which product ? thanks !!!

> > >

> > > Annie

> > >

> >

July 17, 2007

Tina,

We do DHA, EPA, ALA, GLA, Omega 6 and Omega 9. All types of fat (except

trans-fat, of course) are essential and important for maintaining a healthy

body,and especially a healthy nervous system. Neurological communication would

be impossible without fat. I think it is very telling that the corpus callosum

(which connects the 2 hemispheres in the brain) is 80% fat! Hmmm.....do you

think kids who have trouble with coordination and crossing the midline might

have a fat issue? To me the answer is obvious. I truly feel poor myelination

is a key to our kids' problems.

My only point to posting the DHA information was this. It seems like most

people on this board seem to have jumped onto the high EPA bandwagon big time.

This does not mesh with my research, but I decided to give it a fair shake to

see if it would improve my son's speech. Instead we saw a major regression.

When we went back to higher levels of DHA (I try to maintain between a 1:1 and

2:1 ratio of DHA to EPA) he got back up to speed. I can't " prove " this was all

due to fish oils. In fact, it's a little frightening to me to think changing

one supplement could have such a big impact. But as far as I can tell, the only

thing that changed between the regression and the rebound was the fish oils.

I guess I would just like to encourage parents to do what is best for their

child. Do your research and do it well, but in the end, use what works to help

your child get well.