Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Posted August 4, 2005 Pierre, Sorry to hear about your troubles last night. I'm glad everything worked out finally. Hopefully tonight's dialysis will be less eventful!!! ~Dana Home hemo adventures After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse for 5 minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. They sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the 7 instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't include caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the caps while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. Normally I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before last, I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do this every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above my dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had to, I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 hours. I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators are busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes on and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic hours for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us on nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or so home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's not the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story short, she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers at the General Hospital dialysis centre. I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the hospital is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded up! It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody knows. I end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis is all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After about 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go home. I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to be wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through it as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting the actual treatment at about 12:20. ...but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. Pierre To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ To unsubcribe via email, iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm Thank you Quote
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Posted August 4, 2005 After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse for 5 minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. They sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the 7 instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't include caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the caps while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. Normally I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before last, I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do this every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above my dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had to, I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 hours. I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators are busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes on and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic hours for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us on nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or so home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's not the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story short, she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers at the General Hospital dialysis centre. I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the hospital is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded up! It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody knows. I end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis is all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After about 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go home. I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to be wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through it as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting the actual treatment at about 12:20. ....but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. Pierre Quote
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Posted August 4, 2005 Holey Smokes Pierre, what a night. I'm so glad that you were finally able to connect with the dialysis center for the correct dialyzer and had an uneventful " run " but wow, that experience will surely be remember by all of us. Bonnie --- Pierre Lachaine pgl-groups@...> wrote: > After testing the water and letting the > water purifier rinse for 5 > minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine > itself, I'm setting up > the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs > on the machine. When I > open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent > me the wrong ones. ... Missing a > treatment is out of the question at this point... > I end up starting the > actual treatment at about 12:20. > > ...but the treatment itself went well. Not a single > alarm all night. > > > Pierre > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Posted August 4, 2005 Thanks Dana, Bonnie I'm just glad I was in the army where I learned all the appropriate words needed to deal with such a situation :-) Pierre Re: Home hemo adventures > Holey Smokes Pierre, what a night. I'm so glad that > you were finally able to connect with the dialysis > center for the correct dialyzer and had an uneventful > " run " but wow, that experience will surely be remember > by all of us. Bonnie > > --- Pierre Lachaine pgl-groups@...> wrote: > >> After testing the water and letting the >> water purifier rinse for 5 >> minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine >> itself, I'm setting up >> the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs >> on the machine. When I >> open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent >> me the wrong ones. ... Missing a >> treatment is out of the question at this point... >> I end up starting the >> actual treatment at about 12:20. >> >> ...but the treatment itself went well. Not a single >> alarm all night. >> > >> >> Pierre >> Quote
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Posted August 4, 2005 Oh Pierre, I am so sorry you had such a hard night last night but also know from your posting's that you are a strong and persistent man. I truly hope that tonight's treatment goes much smoother for you. God Bless You and all that you do here for all of us Cathy..Jennell's Mom _____ From: iga-nephropathy [mailto:iga-nephropathy ] On Behalf Of Pierre Lachaine Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:50 AM To: iga-nephropathy Subject: Home hemo adventures After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse for 5 minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. They sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the 7 instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't include caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the caps while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. Normally I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before last, I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do this every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above my dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had to, I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 hours. I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators are busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes on and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic hours for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us on nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or so home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's not the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story short, she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers at the General Hospital dialysis centre. I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the hospital is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded up! It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody knows. I end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis is all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After about 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go home. I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to be wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through it as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting the actual treatment at about 12:20. ....but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. Pierre To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ To unsubcribe via email, iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm Thank you Quote
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Posted August 4, 2005 Just goes to show us - nobody is hovering or watching over us. We need to pay attention to our own health issues. I also found this out the hard way! Gloria > > > After testing the water and letting the > > water purifier rinse for 5 > > minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine > > itself, I'm setting up > > the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs > > on the machine. When I > > open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent > > me the wrong ones. ... Missing a > > treatment is out of the question at this point... > > I end up starting the > > actual treatment at about 12:20. > > > > ...but the treatment itself went well. Not a single > > alarm all night. > > > > > > > Pierre > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Posted August 4, 2005 How incredibly frustrating -- and in the wee hours to boot! It's hard to deal with clueless bureaucrats at any hour, but doing it after midnight when one is already fatigued calls for big league heroics. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Cy Home hemo adventures > After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on > dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse for > 5 > minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up > the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I > open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. > They > sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice > right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the > 7 > instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same > colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't > include > caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the > caps > while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. > > It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. > Normally > I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before > last, > I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do > this > every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the > flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above > my > dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a > treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had > to, > I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very > uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 > hours. > > I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators > are > busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes > on > and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says > I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know > they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic hours > for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . > Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us > on > nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or so > home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at > night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and > finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my > regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's not > the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story > short, > she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers at > the General Hospital dialysis centre. > > I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the > hospital > is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city > streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius > day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded > up! > It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody knows. > I > end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis > is > all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there > somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has > two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After > about > 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go > home. > > I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to > be > wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I > don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine > nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. > > By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go > through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the > recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through it > as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I > mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting > the > actual treatment at about 12:20. > > ...but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. > > A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this > morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my > dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their > mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. > > Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad > enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. > > Pierre > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Posted August 4, 2005 Hearing this I need to retract my other, teasing, email. Sorry you had the rough time.....bureasnots are always difficult to manage, whether in good health or no. Bart Re: Home hemo adventures How incredibly frustrating -- and in the wee hours to boot! It's hard to deal with clueless bureaucrats at any hour, but doing it after midnight when one is already fatigued calls for big league heroics. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Cy Home hemo adventures > After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on > dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse for > 5 > minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up > the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I > open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. > They > sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice > right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the > 7 > instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same > colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't > include > caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the > caps > while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. > > It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. > Normally > I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before > last, > I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do > this > every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the > flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above > my > dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a > treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had > to, > I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very > uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 > hours. > > I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators > are > busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes > on > and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says > I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know > they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic hours > for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . > Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us > on > nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or so > home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at > night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and > finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my > regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's not > the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story > short, > she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers at > the General Hospital dialysis centre. > > I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the > hospital > is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city > streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius > day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded > up! > It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody knows. > I > end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis > is > all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there > somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has > two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After > about > 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go > home. > > I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to > be > wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I > don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine > nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. > > By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go > through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the > recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through it > as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I > mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting > the > actual treatment at about 12:20. > > ...but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. > > A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this > morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my > dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their > mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. > > Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad > enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. > > Pierre > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Posted August 4, 2005 Pierre, Fresenius has been known to make mistakes. I check every shipment very close since thay sent me the wrong acid. We spent several hours and on the second technician they sent to my home did we find that the acid was the wrong formula. We could not get our conductivity to come to 14 it would settle on 18 which was to high to run.I must run we are going to run early tomorrow. My helper needs to take his son and regester for school. We are still running hree times per week and it seems to be ok. In Christ Love, Ray Cathy Waelty cwaelty@...> wrote: Oh Pierre, I am so sorry you had such a hard night last night but also know from your posting's that you are a strong and persistent man. I truly hope that tonight's treatment goes much smoother for you. God Bless You and all that you do here for all of us Cathy..Jennell's Mom _____ From: iga-nephropathy [mailto:iga-nephropathy ] On Behalf Of Pierre Lachaine Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:50 AM To: iga-nephropathy Subject: Home hemo adventures After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse for 5 minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. They sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the 7 instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't include caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the caps while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. Normally I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before last, I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do this every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above my dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had to, I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 hours. I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators are busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes on and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic hours for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us on nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or so home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's not the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story short, she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers at the General Hospital dialysis centre. I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the hospital is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded up! It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody knows. I end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis is all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After about 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go home. I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to be wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through it as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting the actual treatment at about 12:20. ....but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. 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Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Posted August 5, 2005 Luckily, at least here, they are quick to correct the mistake. Glad to hear it's going well with the home hemo. At least you don't have to travel to the dialysis centre. I think there's also an advantage in not being exposed to all the germs there on a regular basis. Pierre Home hemo adventures After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse for 5 minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. They sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the 7 instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't include caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the caps while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. Normally I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before last, I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do this every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above my dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had to, I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 hours. I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators are busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes on and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic hours for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us on nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or so home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's not the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story short, she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers at the General Hospital dialysis centre. I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the hospital is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded up! It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody knows. I end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis is all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After about 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go home. I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to be wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through it as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting the actual treatment at about 12:20. ....but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. Pierre To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ To unsubcribe via email, iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm Thank you Quote
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Posted August 5, 2005 Hi Bart I wasn't too happy at the time, but with a couple of days hindsight, I kind of enjoyed the late night drive :-) Pierre Home hemo adventures > > >> After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on >> dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse >> for > >> 5 >> minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up >> the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I >> open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. >> They >> sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice >> right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the >> 7 >> instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same >> colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't >> include >> caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the >> caps >> while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. >> >> It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. >> Normally >> I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before >> last, >> I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do >> this >> every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the >> flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above >> my >> dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a >> treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had >> to, >> I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very >> uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 >> hours. >> >> I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators >> are >> busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes >> on >> and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says >> I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know >> they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic >> hours >> for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . >> Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us >> on >> nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or >> so >> home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at >> night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and >> finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my >> regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's >> not >> the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story >> short, >> she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers >> at >> the General Hospital dialysis centre. >> >> I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the >> hospital >> is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city >> streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius >> day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded >> up! >> It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody >> knows. > >> I >> end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis >> is >> all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there >> somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has >> two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After >> about >> 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go >> home. >> >> I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to >> be >> wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I >> don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine >> nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. >> >> By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go >> through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the >> recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through >> it >> as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I >> mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting >> the >> actual treatment at about 12:20. >> >> ...but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. >> >> A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this >> morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my >> dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their >> mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. >> >> Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad >> enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. >> >> Pierre >> >> >> >> >> To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group >> home page: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ >> >> To unsubcribe via email, >> iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe >> Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely >> supported > >> by donations. If you would like to help, go to: >> http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm >> >> Thank you >> Quote
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Posted August 5, 2005 Apparently, it improved my sense of humour on the following day, so maybe I should have problems like that more often :-) Pierre Home hemo adventures > > >> After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on >> dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse >> for >> 5 >> minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up >> the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I >> open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. >> They >> sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice >> right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the >> 7 >> instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same >> colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't >> include >> caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the >> caps >> while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. >> >> It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. >> Normally >> I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before >> last, >> I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do >> this >> every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the >> flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above >> my >> dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a >> treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had >> to, >> I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very >> uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 >> hours. >> >> I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators >> are >> busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes >> on >> and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says >> I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know >> they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic >> hours >> for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . >> Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us >> on >> nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or >> so >> home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at >> night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and >> finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my >> regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's >> not >> the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story >> short, >> she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers >> at >> the General Hospital dialysis centre. >> >> I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the >> hospital >> is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city >> streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius >> day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded >> up! >> It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody >> knows. >> I >> end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis >> is >> all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there >> somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has >> two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After >> about >> 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go >> home. >> >> I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to >> be >> wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I >> don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine >> nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. >> >> By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go >> through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the >> recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through >> it >> as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I >> mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting >> the >> actual treatment at about 12:20. >> >> ...but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. >> >> A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this >> morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my >> dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their >> mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. >> >> Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad >> enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. >> >> Pierre >> >> >> >> >> To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group >> home page: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ >> >> To unsubcribe via email, >> iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe >> Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely >> supported >> by donations. If you would like to help, go to: >> http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm >> >> Thank you >> Quote
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Posted August 5, 2005 Oh Pierre, What a night you had! hopefully you won't have to go through that again. Did you make yourself coffe when you got home? I am guessing not. Pierre Lachaine pgl-groups@...> wrote:After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse for 5 minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. They sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the 7 instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't include caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the caps while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. Normally I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before last, I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do this every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above my dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had to, I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 hours. I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators are busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes on and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic hours for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us on nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or so home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's not the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story short, she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers at the General Hospital dialysis centre. I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the hospital is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded up! It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody knows. I end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis is all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After about 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go home. I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to be wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through it as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting the actual treatment at about 12:20. ....but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. Pierre To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ To unsubcribe via email, iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm Thank you Quote
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Posted August 5, 2005 Oh Pierre, How terribly frustrating for you, but you did put a smile on my face with your sense of humor the next day. I feel so bad that you had to go through all that when you were so tired to begin with! Wish I could have bought you that coffee! In a message dated 8/4/2005 6:50:17 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pgl-groups@... writes: After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse for 5 minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. They sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the 7 instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't include caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the caps while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. Quote
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2005 Report Posted August 6, 2005 Pierre, I'm sorry that you had such a frustrating night. But I'm glad that you got the dialyzers that you needed. Sophia > After my emails on the group last night, I started putting myself on > dialysis. After testing the water and letting the water purifier rinse for 5 > minutes, and after turning on the dialysis machine itself, I'm setting up > the tubing and what not - all the stuff that hangs on the machine. When I > open a new box of dialyzers, I realize they've sent me the wrong ones. They > sent me F7 NRe instead of F70NRe. Big difference, which I didn't notice > right away because the numbers look very, very similar (a space after the 7 > instead of a zero), and the label is exactly the same design and the same > colour. I couldn't use those even if I wanted to, because they don't include > caps on the connectors where the dialysate lines connect. You need the caps > while doing the priming. I check the other box, same thing. > > It's after 10pm by now. I decide I can't really skip the treatment. Normally > I could, because nocturnal hemo is so efficient. But the night before last, > I only had a short 2 hour dialysis at the dialysis centre (I have to do this > every few months so they can put the Transonic machine on me to check the > flow in my fistula). Plus, I'm already more than 2 and half litres above my > dry weight, and I've eaten plenty of salt and potassium. So, missing a > treatment is out of the question at this point. I mean, if I really had to, > I could skip it until the next day, but it would mean being very > uncomfortable and not being able to drink or eat much for the next 24 hours. > > I decided to call the duty home dialysis nurse. I get " All our operators are > busy, please stay on the line " ! After a minute or so, the operator comes on > and I tell him I need to talk to the home dialysis on-call nurse. He says > I'm sorry, all the clinics are closed at this hour. I say, " Look, I know > they are closed. There is a home dialysis nurse on call after clinic hours > for home dialysis patients, and I happen to be a home dialysis patient " . > Obviously, nobody every told that operator. There are only about 17 of us on > nocturnal hemo in Ottawa, but the on-call nurse also handles the 200 or so > home PD patients, many of whom put themselves on the automatic cycler at > night - so it's not like it's a new thing. He looks in the listings and > finds the pager number. A few minutes later, the nurse calls - not my > regular nurse. She says, " Can't you just use those? " . I say, " No, it's not > the right type, plus these don't have any caps " . To make a long story short, > she made arrangements for me to pick up a couple of the right dialyzers at > the General Hospital dialysis centre. > > I get to the hospital and I go to the dialysis centre. Luckily, the hospital > is only 10 minutes away - actually a pleasant little drive through city > streets, in the cooler night air after a scorching 30-plus degree Celsius > day. When I get there, the dialysis centre is all closed off and boarded up! > It's under construction. I ask people where dialysis is now. Nobody knows. I > end up at the emergency desk, where the nurse tells me, " Well, dialsysis is > all over the place right now " . I say, " Well, there must be somebody there > somewhere because the home dialysis nurse talked to somebody here who has > two dialyzers for me " . I'm told to wait until they call someone. After about > 10 minutes, a dialysis nurse shows up with my two dialyzers, and I go home. > > I decide stop at a Tim Horton's coffee shop on the way, because I need to be > wide awake for another hour or so. I get out of the car and I realize I > don't have a cent on me, and they don't take Interac. No bank machine > nearby, so I just say " Fxxx it " and go home. > > By this time, when I get home, it's about 11:30, and I still need to go > through all the dialysis machine's alarm test, the priming and the > recirculation. This all takes about an hour on a good day. I go through it > as fast as I can, because frankly, I'm getting a little upset by now. I > mean, it's late, and I want to get on and go to sleep. I end up starting the > actual treatment at about 12:20. > > ...but the treatment itself went well. Not a single alarm all night. > > A technician is going to another patient's place not far from me this > morning, and he will drop a box of dialyzers to tide me over. I get my > dialyzers directly from Fresenius Medical Care, so it appears to be their > mistake. It's the second time this has happened. Last time was in April. > > Man! I would still never go back to in-centre hemo, though. It was bad > enough having to go there the other night for the Transonic measurement. > > Pierre Quote
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Posted August 7, 2005 It means one more delivery I have to be home for, on Monday. The hospital gave me enough to carry me over until then, and then Purolator will deliver 2 boxes of dialyzers directly from the Fresenius wharehouse on Monday (which is where the mistake seems to have been made). I also had to be home on the Friday before last when Biolabs came to replace one of my carbon filter tanks, and on this past Friday as well when someone came to replace that one because the Biolab boys gave me an industrial-grade tank rather than a medical one. It's was Ok to use, but it's not what the hospital pays for, so they had to replace the replacement tank. Now, you have to understand, I'm home most of the time anyway, but I could see how a person with a job might have some problems with this. Since it's only August 7, let's take July and August together. Since the beginning of July, I've had to be home waiting for a delivery or a technical visit or something related to home dialysis at least 9 times. This included planned maintenance, 2 unscheduled repair visits, Fresenius machine supplies delivery, Baxter concentrates delivery, hospital auxiliary supplies delivery, second Fresenius delivery preceded by pickup of the wrong dialyzer boxes, etc. Plus, before my next follow-up appointment at the middle of the month, I will have to bring my blood sample tubes to the lab. All this stuff ends up using up a lot of free time, and it's not like you get to schedule specific times for them. It's more or less at other people's convenience, not the patient's. I'm home anyway, but it means that day I can't go out to the supermarket or go out on my bike, or even take the dog for his walk, because I might miss them. Not that I'm complaining, but after being on home hemodialysis for going on 6 months already, it makes me think the suggestion that being on home hemo might allow a person to resume working (which you can read about on most websites that promote home hemo) is a bit of a hollow promise. Even just the above doesn't include the days after the patient may have had a rough, sleepless night while on dialysis, which can happen occasionally when there are a lot of alarms (there are times every once in a while when the fistula might spasm, for example, which causes pressure alarms). The upside is great though. For example, yesterday (Saturday), we had a family BBQ at my brother's place. I was able to drink two bottles of beer plus coffee (plus the fluid I drank earlier in the day), and I hate some of everything that was on the table. It was so great to be able to do that and not have to worry about watching any limits - and I was able to salt my food liberally too. Pierre Re: Home hemo adventures > Pierre, > > I'm sorry that you had such a frustrating night. But I'm glad that you > got the dialyzers that you needed. > > Sophia > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Posted August 7, 2005 9 days! Ouch. I hate to think of you being at the mercy of the delivery guys. McCoy's line about dialysis is ringing in my ears. Cy Re: Home hemo adventures > > >> Pierre, >> >> I'm sorry that you had such a frustrating night. But I'm glad that you >> got the dialyzers that you needed. >> >> Sophia >> > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Posted August 7, 2005 Pierre, I can identify with you I spend a lot of time waiting for deliveries or service on the equipment. I made an agreement with my Fresenious delivery man to leave his del. on my front porch if I am not at home. I live about 20 miles out in the country. They will call and say someone is coming out to check the equipment and then fail to show up. Anything serious and they come out right away. And in the case of emergency I am to call 911. The emergency people know that I am on home hemo and will respond right away. The electric and water co. have my home flagged so for the loss of either will get pri. service. I would not want to go back to the clinic for dialysis. I am happy with my service. I have a teriffic nurse who keeps up with me and my needs. Tomorrow I will start my dialysis at 8 AM at which time we will draw the Auugust blood samples and take water samples for lab test. I have a 3 PM apt with my neph at the clinic and will take the samples with me for the lab. I have my own centifuge to spinn out the blood. Ray Pierre Lachaine pgl-groups@...> wrote: It means one more delivery I have to be home for, on Monday. The hospital gave me enough to carry me over until then, and then Purolator will deliver 2 boxes of dialyzers directly from the Fresenius wharehouse on Monday (which is where the mistake seems to have been made). I also had to be home on the Friday before last when Biolabs came to replace one of my carbon filter tanks, and on this past Friday as well when someone came to replace that one because the Biolab boys gave me an industrial-grade tank rather than a medical one. It's was Ok to use, but it's not what the hospital pays for, so they had to replace the replacement tank. Now, you have to understand, I'm home most of the time anyway, but I could see how a person with a job might have some problems with this. Since it's only August 7, let's take July and August together. Since the beginning of July, I've had to be home waiting for a delivery or a technical visit or something related to home dialysis at least 9 times. This included planned maintenance, 2 unscheduled repair visits, Fresenius machine supplies delivery, Baxter concentrates delivery, hospital auxiliary supplies delivery, second Fresenius delivery preceded by pickup of the wrong dialyzer boxes, etc. Plus, before my next follow-up appointment at the middle of the month, I will have to bring my blood sample tubes to the lab. All this stuff ends up using up a lot of free time, and it's not like you get to schedule specific times for them. It's more or less at other people's convenience, not the patient's. I'm home anyway, but it means that day I can't go out to the supermarket or go out on my bike, or even take the dog for his walk, because I might miss them. Not that I'm complaining, but after being on home hemodialysis for going on 6 months already, it makes me think the suggestion that being on home hemo might allow a person to resume working (which you can read about on most websites that promote home hemo) is a bit of a hollow promise. Even just the above doesn't include the days after the patient may have had a rough, sleepless night while on dialysis, which can happen occasionally when there are a lot of alarms (there are times every once in a while when the fistula might spasm, for example, which causes pressure alarms). The upside is great though. For example, yesterday (Saturday), we had a family BBQ at my brother's place. I was able to drink two bottles of beer plus coffee (plus the fluid I drank earlier in the day), and I hate some of everything that was on the table. It was so great to be able to do that and not have to worry about watching any limits - and I was able to salt my food liberally too. Pierre Re: Home hemo adventures > Pierre, > > I'm sorry that you had such a frustrating night. But I'm glad that you > got the dialyzers that you needed. > > Sophia > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ To unsubcribe via email, iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm Thank you Quote
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Posted August 7, 2005 Hi Pierre, That is a lot of days to have to be home waiting for delivery! It makes me wonder about PD even because I know lots of supplies are needed for PD too. I wonder if it is really reasonable to think I can keep working at this pace. Maybe I need to take off those rose colored glasses I love SOOO much :-) In a message dated 8/7/2005 6:10:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pgl-groups@... writes: It means one more delivery I have to be home for, on Monday. The hospital gave me enough to carry me over until then, and then Purolator will deliver 2 boxes of dialyzers directly from the Fresenius wharehouse on Monday (which is where the mistake seems to have been made). I also had to be home on the Friday before last when Biolabs came to replace one of my carbon filter tanks, and on this past Friday as well when someone came to replace that one because the Biolab boys gave me an industrial-grade tank rather than a medical one. It's was Ok to use, but it's not what the hospital pays for, so they had to replace the replacement tank. Now, you have to understand, I'm home most of the time anyway, but I could see how a person with a job might have some problems with this. Since it's only August 7, let's take July and August together. Since the beginning of July, I've had to be home waiting for a delivery or a technical visit or something related to home dialysis at least 9 times. This included planned maintenance, 2 unscheduled repair visits, Fresenius machine supplies delivery, Baxter concentrates delivery, hospital auxiliary supplies delivery, second Fresenius delivery preceded by pickup of the wrong dialyzer boxes, etc. Plus, before my next follow-up appointment at the middle of the month, I will have to bring my blood sample tubes to the lab. All this stuff ends up using up a lot of free time, and it's not like you get to schedule specific times for them. It's more or less at other people's convenience, not the patient's. I'm home anyway, but it means that day I can't go out to the supermarket or go out on my bike, or even take the dog for his walk, because I might miss them. Not that I'm complaining, but after being on home hemodialysis for going on 6 months already, it makes me think the suggestion that being on home hemo might allow a person to resume working (which you can read about on most websites that promote home hemo) is a bit of a hollow promise. Even just the above doesn't include the days after the patient may have had a rough, sleepless night while on dialysis, which can happen occasionally when there are a lot of alarms (there are times every once in a while when the fistula might spasm, for example, which causes pressure alarms). The upside is great though. For example, yesterday (Saturday), we had a family BBQ at my brother's place. I was able to drink two bottles of beer plus coffee (plus the fluid I drank earlier in the day), and I hate some of everything that was on the table. It was so great to be able to do that and not have to worry about watching any limits - and I was able to salt my food liberally too. Pierre Quote
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Posted August 7, 2005 Hi Ray Good luck with your appointment tomorrow. I'm also on a priority notification list with the local electrical company. I guess it would only be useful when there is a planned power outage though. For emergencies, the hospital pays for the Lifeline service. I have a panic button on my wrist, and the Lifeline operators already know I'm a home hemo patient. In an emergency, of course, I could just call 9-1-1 directly, but I would have to explain more what's going on. Pierre Re: Home hemo adventures > > >> Pierre, >> >> I'm sorry that you had such a frustrating night. But I'm glad that you >> got the dialyzers that you needed. >> >> Sophia >> > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Posted August 7, 2005 I guess you truly need to be a patient person Pierre. I think all those issues that crop up would drive me over the edge. Cy Webb cyashleywebb@...> wrote: 9 days! Ouch. I hate to think of you being at the mercy of the delivery guys. McCoy's line about dialysis is ringing in my ears. Cy Re: Home hemo adventures > > >> Pierre, >> >> I'm sorry that you had such a frustrating night. But I'm glad that you >> got the dialyzers that you needed. >> >> Sophia >> > > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Posted August 8, 2005 Hi While I have never done PD myself, I do know the supplies are a little simpler than what's needed for hemodialysis. One delivery every one or two months should be enough. Machine issues are much simpler too. There's no machine at all for manual exchanges, and the cyclers are relatively simple machines compared to a hemodialysis machine (they do break down occasionally, but it's usually a simple matter to replace the whole machine). But on the flip side, people on PD are subject to peritoneal infections which can sideline them for some time. It's realistic, I think, to consider working when all is well, but it would be unrealistic to think that everything will always go well. Peritoneal infections, for example, can put you in the hospital pretty quickly, and then on hemodialysis for a while (and sometimes on hemo permanently). I don't think I would entirely believe the rosy scenarios painted on websites that promote PD anymore than I would those about home hemodialysis. Advocacy tends to make one advance the positives and minimize the negatives. I would just use a light shade of rose on those glasses :-) Pierre Re: Re: Home hemo adventures Hi Pierre, That is a lot of days to have to be home waiting for delivery! It makes me wonder about PD even because I know lots of supplies are needed for PD too. I wonder if it is really reasonable to think I can keep working at this pace. Maybe I need to take off those rose colored glasses I love SOOO much :-) In a message dated 8/7/2005 6:10:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pgl-groups@... writes: It means one more delivery I have to be home for, on Monday. The hospital gave me enough to carry me over until then, and then Purolator will deliver 2 boxes of dialyzers directly from the Fresenius wharehouse on Monday (which is where the mistake seems to have been made). I also had to be home on the Friday before last when Biolabs came to replace one of my carbon filter tanks, and on this past Friday as well when someone came to replace that one because the Biolab boys gave me an industrial-grade tank rather than a medical one. It's was Ok to use, but it's not what the hospital pays for, so they had to replace the replacement tank. Now, you have to understand, I'm home most of the time anyway, but I could see how a person with a job might have some problems with this. Since it's only August 7, let's take July and August together. Since the beginning of July, I've had to be home waiting for a delivery or a technical visit or something related to home dialysis at least 9 times. This included planned maintenance, 2 unscheduled repair visits, Fresenius machine supplies delivery, Baxter concentrates delivery, hospital auxiliary supplies delivery, second Fresenius delivery preceded by pickup of the wrong dialyzer boxes, etc. Plus, before my next follow-up appointment at the middle of the month, I will have to bring my blood sample tubes to the lab. All this stuff ends up using up a lot of free time, and it's not like you get to schedule specific times for them. It's more or less at other people's convenience, not the patient's. I'm home anyway, but it means that day I can't go out to the supermarket or go out on my bike, or even take the dog for his walk, because I might miss them. Not that I'm complaining, but after being on home hemodialysis for going on 6 months already, it makes me think the suggestion that being on home hemo might allow a person to resume working (which you can read about on most websites that promote home hemo) is a bit of a hollow promise. Even just the above doesn't include the days after the patient may have had a rough, sleepless night while on dialysis, which can happen occasionally when there are a lot of alarms (there are times every once in a while when the fistula might spasm, for example, which causes pressure alarms). The upside is great though. For example, yesterday (Saturday), we had a family BBQ at my brother's place. I was able to drink two bottles of beer plus coffee (plus the fluid I drank earlier in the day), and I hate some of everything that was on the table. It was so great to be able to do that and not have to worry about watching any limits - and I was able to salt my food liberally too. Pierre Quote
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Posted August 8, 2005 Hi Pierre, Thank you for your comments. Guess I will have to go sunglass shopping then for a lighter shade ;-) I am very blessed that my CEO tells me repeatedly that they will work with me to accommodate any needs I have once I start dialysis. They will even store fluid there for me at the home office so I don't have to pack it when I travel to KS for meetings at our headquarters. I am sure it will be challenging, but on the flip side, I will likely feel better than I do now...at least that is what I am telling myself! In a message dated 8/8/2005 6:08:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pgl-groups@... writes: I would just use a light shade of rose on those glasses :-) Pierre Quote
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Posted August 8, 2005 Hi Bart, I am with you on both the desire to be stay busy and be other-focused, and more importantly hoping and praying that dialysis is a good bit away for both of us! In a message dated 8/8/2005 7:28:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bkhphd@... writes: Hello , My " choice, " of PD vs hemo is motivated entirely by a desire to continue working....not only because of the $ but also to literally stay busy and other-focused. Given Pierre's message and your own thoughts, maybe I am in deeper stuff than I thought. One would think, though, that deliveries can be managed without my being at home....the old key under the mat thing....or some other mechanism. Of course, as I can VPN into my co's network, perhaps accommodations can be made. We'll just have to see. With any luck (!) perhaps either mode of dialysis is a good bit away for both of us. Quote
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Posted August 8, 2005 Hello , My " choice, " of PD vs hemo is motivated entirely by a desire to continue working....not only because of the $ but also to literally stay busy and other-focused. Given Pierre's message and your own thoughts, maybe I am in deeper stuff than I thought. One would think, though, that deliveries can be managed without my being at home....the old key under the mat thing....or some other mechanism. Of course, as I can VPN into my co's network, perhaps accommodations can be made. We'll just have to see. With any luck (!) perhaps either mode of dialysis is a good bit away for both of us. In any event, as always, I bid you well! Bart Re: Re: Home hemo adventures Hi Pierre, That is a lot of days to have to be home waiting for delivery! It makes me wonder about PD even because I know lots of supplies are needed for PD too. I wonder if it is really reasonable to think I can keep working at this pace. Maybe I need to take off those rose colored glasses I love SOOO much :-) In a message dated 8/7/2005 6:10:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pgl-groups@... writes: It means one more delivery I have to be home for, on Monday. The hospital gave me enough to carry me over until then, and then Purolator will deliver 2 boxes of dialyzers directly from the Fresenius wharehouse on Monday (which is where the mistake seems to have been made). I also had to be home on the Friday before last when Biolabs came to replace one of my carbon filter tanks, and on this past Friday as well when someone came to replace that one because the Biolab boys gave me an industrial-grade tank rather than a medical one. It's was Ok to use, but it's not what the hospital pays for, so they had to replace the replacement tank. Now, you have to understand, I'm home most of the time anyway, but I could see how a person with a job might have some problems with this. Since it's only August 7, let's take July and August together. Since the beginning of July, I've had to be home waiting for a delivery or a technical visit or something related to home dialysis at least 9 times. This included planned maintenance, 2 unscheduled repair visits, Fresenius machine supplies delivery, Baxter concentrates delivery, hospital auxiliary supplies delivery, second Fresenius delivery preceded by pickup of the wrong dialyzer boxes, etc. Plus, before my next follow-up appointment at the middle of the month, I will have to bring my blood sample tubes to the lab. All this stuff ends up using up a lot of free time, and it's not like you get to schedule specific times for them. It's more or less at other people's convenience, not the patient's. I'm home anyway, but it means that day I can't go out to the supermarket or go out on my bike, or even take the dog for his walk, because I might miss them. Not that I'm complaining, but after being on home hemodialysis for going on 6 months already, it makes me think the suggestion that being on home hemo might allow a person to resume working (which you can read about on most websites that promote home hemo) is a bit of a hollow promise. Even just the above doesn't include the days after the patient may have had a rough, sleepless night while on dialysis, which can happen occasionally when there are a lot of alarms (there are times every once in a while when the fistula might spasm, for example, which causes pressure alarms). The upside is great though. For example, yesterday (Saturday), we had a family BBQ at my brother's place. I was able to drink two bottles of beer plus coffee (plus the fluid I drank earlier in the day), and I hate some of everything that was on the table. It was so great to be able to do that and not have to worry about watching any limits - and I was able to salt my food liberally too. Pierre Quote
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