Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 HI everyone... I am getting my 2 yr old son evaluated next week. I have been around several boards, but a lot aren't very active. My son started babbling when he was an infant. Everything seemed like he was starting to go down the speech path. But it never did. He started to say Da. Which then became the word for everyone. Me, his sisters, grandparents, are all Da. He uses the word Ga, which is thank you and cat. He says yay and whoa too. He will also count to 3 and say go it sounds something like /g/ /g/ /g/- GO! Time went by and at about 20 mos EI came out. A psychologist and ST were there. He was normal in everything except speech. They said significant delay in speech. Since overall (he pointed grunted, made eye contact) they said he was mildly delayed and would not take him on. My son is fine except he won't talk! He follows directions,he understands way more than he can talk, has a great attention span, he is normal except no talking. He hasn't made progress since about 16 mos old. My mom got him to say WOOF clearly- all letters. Within seconds of repeating it became just the /w/ sound. I am the worry wart mom. I asked my DH was he thought thinking he would be the 'sane' one. He said yes I think something is wrong. Before we even read about apraxia, my DH said its like his brain isn't getting to his mouth, the road is broken. So he can't talk. At the time I was like uh, ok. Whatever! I then purchased the book- the late talker. It talked about apraxia (Verbal). I read it to my husband and said...see! I told you! A lot of the symptoms/signs point towards my son. Its the only speech delay/disorder that finally fit him. I dont know for sure this is what he has. Afterall I read it takes most ST at least a few sessions to determine if a kid has it, sometimes not even until they are at least 3 yrs old. My son has been learning a few signs to get his points across. He's been doing pretty good with that. The one thing my husband noticed too is that he seems to have problem doing things with his hands. Like it's hard for him to make a fist - I guess he can't manipulate his hand right to get it down. We have to do it for him. I guess thats it. What do you think? Just worrying for nothing? Thanks for reading! I hope its not what he has. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 Hi April- I don't think you are worrying over nothing. I would get a second opinion ASAP. A two year old should have lots of words. I would definitely not wait until he turns three - the earlier you intervene the better. At least in my area, it seems that EI likes to take the " wait and see " approach because they only serve children up to age 3. (Yes, I'm cynical, but I have reason for it!). good luck, > > > HI everyone... > I am getting my 2 yr old son evaluated next week. I have been around > several boards, but a lot aren't very active. > My son started babbling when he was an infant. Everything seemed like he > was starting to go down the speech path. But it never did. He started to say > Da. Which then became the word for everyone. Me, his sisters, grandparents, > are all Da. He uses the word Ga, which is thank you and cat. > He says yay and whoa too. He will also count to 3 and say go it sounds > something like /g/ /g/ /g/- GO! Time went by and at about 20 mos EI came > out. A psychologist and ST were there. He was normal in everything except > speech. They said significant delay in speech. Since overall (he pointed > grunted, made eye contact) they said he was mildly delayed and would not > take him on. My son is fine except he won't talk! He follows directions,he > understands way more than he can talk, has a great attention span, he is > normal except no talking. He hasn't made progress since about 16 mos old. > My mom got him to say WOOF clearly- all letters. Within seconds of repeating > it became just the /w/ sound. > I am the worry wart mom. I asked my DH was he thought thinking he would be > the 'sane' one. He said yes I think something is wrong. Before we even read > about apraxia, my DH said its like his brain isn't getting to his mouth, the > road is broken. So he can't talk. At the time I was like uh, ok. Whatever! > I then purchased the book- the late talker. It talked about apraxia > (Verbal). I read it to my husband and said...see! I told you! A lot of the > symptoms/signs point towards my son. Its the only speech delay/disorder that > finally fit him. > I dont know for sure this is what he has. Afterall I read it takes most ST > at least a few sessions to determine if a kid has it, sometimes not even > until they are at least 3 yrs old. > My son has been learning a few signs to get his points across. He's been > doing pretty good with that. The one thing my husband noticed too is that > he seems to have problem doing things with his hands. Like it's hard for > him to make a fist - I guess he can't manipulate his hand right to get it > down. We have to do it for him. > > I guess thats it. What do you think? Just worrying for nothing? > > Thanks for reading! > I hope its not what he has. > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 HI, he did get evaluation from EI at 20 mos...which is when they said significant speech delay, overall mild communication delay. Since overall was mild they wouldn't take him on. I agree with saying that they are more picky about who they help. I think for a few reasons. One being it's basically a free service. He is getting reevaluated on the 21st, this time by a private place. I am still concerned b/c his lack of speech still exists while everything else moves smoothly along! The place I called said EI will take over if there is a problem. Which I am hoping somehow (I know its hard) to get my insurance to pay. EI let me down the 1st time and I feel like they have wasted about 5 months worth of therapy! At the same time, if I can't get insurance to cover- I guess its better than nothing!! My next question is... I've been reading a little about vitamins/supplements helping children with speech. I am very curious to try something like that. What is best thing to do for a 2 yr old? Thanks. to all! >From: myra.bauza@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] Apraxia? >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:21:38 -0500 > >I would have your son evaluated by a developmental pediatrician who has >experience with Apraxia. My story: At 1 y.o., I had a feeling there was >something wrong and my pediatrician said wait until 2 y.o. (he's a boy). At >2 y.o., I had him evaluated by a Speech Pathologist that said his speech >was at a 7-9 months level and so he qualified for the Early Intervention >program run by the state. Most states have Early Intervention. He received >both Speech & OT; Speech 2x a week and OT once a week. He made very little >progress. At age 3, he qualified for the Speech Delay Preschool Program in >our local public school where he would receive Speech 3x a week and OT 2x a >week. I also had him seen by a developmental pediatrician and she >immediately ruled out Autism and said he had Apraxia and slight Hyptonia in >his forearms. She asked me to put him on EFA and a multi-vitamin and to get >him additional speech therapy. Today, at 4 y.o., he has Speech 5x a week >and OT 2x a week. The speech has improved tremendously. He is trying to >speak in 3-5 word sentences. We understand him 70% of the time. We lose >comprehension when he goes on and on......We are just grateful that he >makes the attempt all the time now. I was so overanxious when he was so >quiet. Saying all that, you too should have your son evaluated. At 2 y.o. , >he may too young to fully diagnose; however, he can qualify for Early >Intervention in your state. > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 Hi, I'm not all that familiar with the law, but I don't think that EI is allowed to deny you because " overall " he is mild. I don't even think they're allowed to combine receptive and expressive language scores, much less all areas of development! Maybe someone who's more knowledgable will be able to help you out with this... Have you started your son on EFAs? That's where parents usually start when it comes to vitamins and supplements. Kerri > > HI, he did get evaluation from EI at 20 mos...which is when they said > significant speech delay, overall mild communication delay. Since overall > was mild they wouldn't take him on. I agree with saying that they are more > picky about who they help. I think for a few reasons. One being it's > basically a free service. > He is getting reevaluated on the 21st, this time by a private place. I am > still concerned b/c his lack of speech still exists while everything else > moves smoothly along! The place I called said EI will take over if there is > a problem. Which I am hoping somehow (I know its hard) to get my insurance > to pay. EI let me down the 1st time and I feel like they have wasted about 5 > months worth of therapy! At the same time, if I can't get insurance to > cover- I guess its better than nothing!! > > My next question is... I've been reading a little about vitamins/supplements > helping children with speech. I am very curious to try something like that. > What is best thing to do for a 2 yr old? > > Thanks. to all! > > > >From: myra.bauza@... > >Reply- > > > >Subject: Re: [ ] Apraxia? > >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:21:38 -0500 > > > >I would have your son evaluated by a developmental pediatrician who has > >experience with Apraxia. My story: At 1 y.o., I had a feeling there was > >something wrong and my pediatrician said wait until 2 y.o. (he's a boy). At > >2 y.o., I had him evaluated by a Speech Pathologist that said his speech > >was at a 7-9 months level and so he qualified for the Early Intervention > >program run by the state. Most states have Early Intervention. He received > >both Speech & OT; Speech 2x a week and OT once a week. He made very little > >progress. At age 3, he qualified for the Speech Delay Preschool Program in > >our local public school where he would receive Speech 3x a week and OT 2x a > >week. I also had him seen by a developmental pediatrician and she > >immediately ruled out Autism and said he had Apraxia and slight Hyptonia in > >his forearms. She asked me to put him on EFA and a multi-vitamin and to get > >him additional speech therapy. Today, at 4 y.o., he has Speech 5x a week > >and OT 2x a week. The speech has improved tremendously. He is trying to > >speak in 3-5 word sentences. We understand him 70% of the time. We lose > >comprehension when he goes on and on......We are just grateful that he > >makes the attempt all the time now. I was so overanxious when he was so > >quiet. Saying all that, you too should have your son evaluated. At 2 y.o. , > >he may too young to fully diagnose; however, he can qualify for Early > >Intervention in your state. > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 Essential Fatty Acids...Most use the brand from Nordic Naturals.. " Jon and April " <jonaprilpow@... > cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [ ] Apraxia? @yaho ogroups.com 03/13/2006 01:24 PM Please respond to HI, he did get evaluation from EI at 20 mos...which is when they said significant speech delay, overall mild communication delay. Since overall was mild they wouldn't take him on. I agree with saying that they are more picky about who they help. I think for a few reasons. One being it's basically a free service. He is getting reevaluated on the 21st, this time by a private place. I am still concerned b/c his lack of speech still exists while everything else moves smoothly along! The place I called said EI will take over if there is a problem. Which I am hoping somehow (I know its hard) to get my insurance to pay. EI let me down the 1st time and I feel like they have wasted about 5 months worth of therapy! At the same time, if I can't get insurance to cover- I guess its better than nothing!! My next question is... I've been reading a little about vitamins/supplements helping children with speech. I am very curious to try something like that. What is best thing to do for a 2 yr old? Thanks. to all! Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 EI did NOT offer services b/c his overal communication skills were mildly delayed. Here in upstate NY, they told me there has to be more than 33% deficit for them to take anyone on OR 25% in 2 areas. Since my son's only delay/disorder is speech and to them they averaged it out with his overall communication abilities it put him only mildly delayed. At about 20% deficit. His speech alone they noted was significantly delayed. I would like to start him on EFA. What mg amount is typically given to small children? Can i just buy regular old fishoil capsules? My hubby has some here, it looks like it has all the things in it he needs, but its 1000mg pill. Thanks! >From: " Jeff " <kerripat@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [ ] Re: Apraxia? >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:29:37 -0000 > >Hi, > >I'm not all that familiar with the law, but I don't think that EI is >allowed to deny you because " overall " he is mild. I don't even >think they're allowed to combine receptive and expressive language >scores, much less all areas of development! Maybe someone who's >more knowledgable will be able to help you out with this... > >Have you started your son on EFAs? That's where parents usually >start when it comes to vitamins and supplements. > >Kerri Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 At 12:29 PM 3/13/2006, you wrote: >Hi, > >I'm not all that familiar with the law, but I don't think that EI is >allowed to deny you because " overall " he is mild. I don't even >think they're allowed to combine receptive and expressive language >scores, much less all areas of development! Maybe someone who's >more knowledgable will be able to help you out with this... > >Have you started your son on EFAs? That's where parents usually >start when it comes to vitamins and supplements. > >Kerri I agree. Did I reply to this? I think I wrote something up and never hit send! I was going to suggest outside evals if you can. In my state you just need a 25% delay or greater in ANY area to get therapy. My son at 2 only qualified for speech, but by 2.5 he qualified for some OT and EI services as well after we got an independent evaluation. I'd look into the law for your state. Miche Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 Landon almost didn't qualify for EI for speech when he was 19 months old. Here in GA, you need a 30% delay for services. Landon didn't qualify for under speech, but did qualify for language/communication done by developmental eval. This last speech eval he had in Oct (26mo) he was at a 25% delay for expresive communication. Which makes no sense to me, but that is what it came out to. I do know if you qualify for two things the % for qualification goes down. Maybe you should try to get him evaluated for OT also. Good luck Tina > > Hi, > > I'm not all that familiar with the law, but I don't think that EI is > allowed to deny you because " overall " he is mild. I don't even > think they're allowed to combine receptive and expressive language > scores, much less all areas of development! Maybe someone who's > more knowledgable will be able to help you out with this... > > Have you started your son on EFAs? That's where parents usually > start when it comes to vitamins and supplements. > > Kerri Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 I don't know too much as I'm still learning the in and outs of this dx. I can show you my sons test scores from July 05 and Feb 06 (he is transition to the school district). You can see that his primary difficulties fall in expressive and we have had no trouble receiving services for the last year and half. You can see from the table we haven't made much progress either. It seems you need a second opinion. I have a report from July 05 (same month as the first test) from a developmental ped who said he is fine, no neuro problems, just a late starter! I keep it for laughs!! My point is that my son's scores were never combined to determine eligibility. A severe delay in any area is worth investigating. Good luck, Karin July 29, 2005 (27 months) February 27, 2006 (34 months) BDI Component Percentile Rank Age Equivalent Percentile Rank Age Equivalent Personal-Social 1 19 mos. 73 35 mos. Adaptive 1 19 mos. 30 26 mos. Fine Motor 38 27 mos. 40 28 mos. Gross Motor 27 28 mos. 61 35-38 mos. Receptive Communication 11 21-22 mos. 27 25-26 mos. Expressive Communication 1 11 mos. 1 15 mos. Cognitive 25 23 mos. 38 28 mos. BDI Total 1 22 42 29 mos. [ ] Re: Apraxia? Hi, I'm not all that familiar with the law, but I don't think that EI is allowed to deny you because " overall " he is mild. I don't even think they're allowed to combine receptive and expressive language scores, much less all areas of development! Maybe someone who's more knowledgable will be able to help you out with this... Have you started your son on EFAs? That's where parents usually start when it comes to vitamins and supplements. Kerri Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 Sounds like my son - 6 months ago, when he was 24 months...its not too early. Yes apraxia CAN be diagnoses by age 2 (although no one will diagnose it before 2...even if its suspected). Our first develop pediatrician told us to wait a year until 3 - valuable time would have been lost...got the 2nd opinion who diagnosied apraxia at 2 years, 1 month...and we were able to increase private ST through EI to twice a week with this diagnosis. (We bumped to 3 times a week out of pocket, and are making great strides). Earlier is better. Sounds like he definitely needs ST - which you can get through EI - but usually not sufficient sessions. He needs a SLP or developmental pediatrician or ped neurologist eval to help you with the diagnosis. But the trick is finding someone with apraxia/dyspraxia experience, or its a waste of time. Difficulty with hands etc sounds like there maybe more global apraxia? Was your son late on motor milestones like sitting, crawling, walking? (Mine walked at 17.5 months - which is still on the outer end of normal, but there was something not quite right - now we know he has low trunkal and upper extremity tone - that contributed to poor coordination...working with OT for that. If evidence for low tone (hypotonia), your insurance will cover an OT evaluation with that diagnosis. But the low tone may not be so obvious unless a skilled examiner is evaluating for this. Hard to say yes or no apraxia for sure based on this - but I also felt once I had learned more about apraxia that it was the only diagnosis that made sense of what we were seeing with my son. Good luck. PS, at the risk of repeating myself...again. Just a suggestion, but try omegas. Order Pro-EFA or omega 3/6/9 (cheaper but the same ingredients - available from nordic naturals - order on line, in liquid or pill form; 2 pills = 1/2 tsp), and start giving your son 1/2 teaspoon in the AM. See if you aren't pleasantly surprised. As you have read on this site, it doesn't work for everyone, but when it does - its pretty amazing, and a safe, benign intervention. We have had success with much higher doses, so you may want to go to twice a day after a few weeks, but definitely worth getting started while you are trying to find the right folks to evaluate your son, and getting on the long waiting lists for the developmental pediatrician. - [ ] Apraxia? HI everyone... I am getting my 2 yr old son evaluated next week. I have been around several boards, but a lot aren't very active. My son started babbling when he was an infant. Everything seemed like he was starting to go down the speech path. But it never did. He started to say Da. Which then became the word for everyone. Me, his sisters, grandparents, are all Da. He uses the word Ga, which is thank you and cat. He says yay and whoa too. He will also count to 3 and say go it sounds something like /g/ /g/ /g/- GO! Time went by and at about 20 mos EI came out. A psychologist and ST were there. He was normal in everything except speech. They said significant delay in speech. Since overall (he pointed grunted, made eye contact) they said he was mildly delayed and would not take him on. My son is fine except he won't talk! He follows directions,he understands way more than he can talk, has a great attention span, he is normal except no talking. He hasn't made progress since about 16 mos old. My mom got him to say WOOF clearly- all letters. Within seconds of repeating it became just the /w/ sound. I am the worry wart mom. I asked my DH was he thought thinking he would be the 'sane' one. He said yes I think something is wrong. Before we even read about apraxia, my DH said its like his brain isn't getting to his mouth, the road is broken. So he can't talk. At the time I was like uh, ok. Whatever! I then purchased the book- the late talker. It talked about apraxia (Verbal). I read it to my husband and said...see! I told you! A lot of the symptoms/signs point towards my son. Its the only speech delay/disorder that finally fit him. I dont know for sure this is what he has. Afterall I read it takes most ST at least a few sessions to determine if a kid has it, sometimes not even until they are at least 3 yrs old. My son has been learning a few signs to get his points across. He's been doing pretty good with that. The one thing my husband noticed too is that he seems to have problem doing things with his hands. Like it's hard for him to make a fist - I guess he can't manipulate his hand right to get it down. We have to do it for him. I guess thats it. What do you think? Just worrying for nothing? Thanks for reading! I hope its not what he has. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 You have to fight them to not " average " the results of different areas evaluated. Its my understanding that a delay in expressive language of > 33% qualifies for EI. So scoring in the 7-9 month arena for a 20 month old is a severe delay and should qualify for EI. You've entered an area where we have to learn our rights. Assuming everyone will " just do the right thing " - which is where I started with our initial concerns that began when my son was 5-6 months and not babbling...is the wrong approach. Less than 10 words at 18 months, or 50 words at 24 months, or no 2-word utterances at 24 months is reason for URGENT referral to a developmental pediatrician. You are already there. I also posted about omega -3 supplements. I'm sure you will hear more on the supplement issue. - Re: [ ] Apraxia? >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:21:38 -0500 > >I would have your son evaluated by a developmental pediatrician who has >experience with Apraxia. My story: At 1 y.o., I had a feeling there was >something wrong and my pediatrician said wait until 2 y.o. (he's a boy). At >2 y.o., I had him evaluated by a Speech Pathologist that said his speech >was at a 7-9 months level and so he qualified for the Early Intervention >program run by the state. Most states have Early Intervention. He received >both Speech & OT; Speech 2x a week and OT once a week. He made very little >progress. At age 3, he qualified for the Speech Delay Preschool Program in >our local public school where he would receive Speech 3x a week and OT 2x a >week. I also had him seen by a developmental pediatrician and she >immediately ruled out Autism and said he had Apraxia and slight Hyptonia in >his forearms. She asked me to put him on EFA and a multi-vitamin and to get >him additional speech therapy. Today, at 4 y.o., he has Speech 5x a week >and OT 2x a week. The speech has improved tremendously. He is trying to >speak in 3-5 word sentences. We understand him 70% of the time. We lose >comprehension when he goes on and on......We are just grateful that he >makes the attempt all the time now. I was so overanxious when he was so >quiet. Saying all that, you too should have your son evaluated. At 2 y.o. , >he may too young to fully diagnose; however, he can qualify for Early >Intervention in your state. > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 - When he gets retested, also ask for a supplemental OT evaluation due to coordination and fine motor concerns. Is he self feeding with his fingers or utensils? If it shows as a problem, now you've a way to qualify. Don't let the Special ed teacher or psychologist say that the fine motor was ok, tell them you want an OT to evaluate the lack of quality in the movement/possible motor planning difficulties (excedingly common in apraxia). How is his balance when standing or walking? Difficulty doing stairs with handrail? Can he walk backwards? Can he kick/throw a ball? Maintain a kneeling position without losing his balance? If he has problems with any of thse activities, ask for a PT supplemental evaluation. A private agency will usually " push " harder for your child to receive the appropriate services. Good Luck and keep us informed -- In , " maryebe " <eberlein@...> wrote: > > Hi April- > > I don't think you are worrying over nothing. I would get a second > opinion ASAP. A two year old should have lots of words. I would > definitely not wait until he turns three - the earlier you intervene > the better. > > At least in my area, it seems that EI likes to take the " wait and see " > approach because they only serve children up to age 3. (Yes, I'm > cynical, but I have reason for it!). > > good luck, > > > > > > > > > HI everyone... > > I am getting my 2 yr old son evaluated next week. I have been around > > several boards, but a lot aren't very active. > > My son started babbling when he was an infant. Everything seemed > like he > > was starting to go down the speech path. But it never did. He > started to say > > Da. Which then became the word for everyone. Me, his sisters, > grandparents, > > are all Da. He uses the word Ga, which is thank you and cat. > > He says yay and whoa too. He will also count to 3 and say go it sounds > > something like /g/ /g/ /g/- GO! Time went by and at about 20 mos EI > came > > out. A psychologist and ST were there. He was normal in everything > except > > speech. They said significant delay in speech. Since overall (he > pointed > > grunted, made eye contact) they said he was mildly delayed and would > not > > take him on. My son is fine except he won't talk! He follows > directions,he > > understands way more than he can talk, has a great attention span, > he is > > normal except no talking. He hasn't made progress since about 16 mos > old. > > My mom got him to say WOOF clearly- all letters. Within seconds of > repeating > > it became just the /w/ sound. > > I am the worry wart mom. I asked my DH was he thought thinking he > would be > > the 'sane' one. He said yes I think something is wrong. Before we > even read > > about apraxia, my DH said its like his brain isn't getting to his > mouth, the > > road is broken. So he can't talk. At the time I was like uh, ok. > Whatever! > > I then purchased the book- the late talker. It talked about apraxia > > (Verbal). I read it to my husband and said...see! I told you! A > lot of the > > symptoms/signs point towards my son. Its the only speech > delay/disorder that > > finally fit him. > > I dont know for sure this is what he has. Afterall I read it takes > most ST > > at least a few sessions to determine if a kid has it, sometimes not > even > > until they are at least 3 yrs old. > > My son has been learning a few signs to get his points across. He's > been > > doing pretty good with that. The one thing my husband noticed too > is that > > he seems to have problem doing things with his hands. Like it's > hard for > > him to make a fist - I guess he can't manipulate his hand right to > get it > > down. We have to do it for him. > > > > I guess thats it. What do you think? Just worrying for nothing? > > > > Thanks for reading! > > I hope its not what he has. > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 Hello My daughter Andrianna has Dyspraxia which is very little amount of words and she is 2.4 years old. I asked the Paedaetrician if she has Dyspraxia and he said yes looks like she does have Dyspraxia. I had been reading on the Internet. She was diagnosed with Global Developmental Delays in November 2004 which is all aspects of her development. He asked her to say a few words but she did not speak but seem to understand what you are saying to her. I do hope that you have a nice day and take care and you are very welcome to IM me on christinerowe63976@... or chrissylionhearted@... anytime. I do hope you have a good outcome as I find having Andrianna in daycare has improved all aspects of her development. Chrissy Jon and April <jonaprilpow@...> wrote: HI everyone... I am getting my 2 yr old son evaluated next week. I have been around several boards, but a lot aren't very active. My son started babbling when he was an infant. Everything seemed like he was starting to go down the speech path. But it never did. He started to say Da. Which then became the word for everyone. Me, his sisters, grandparents, are all Da. He uses the word Ga, which is thank you and cat. He says yay and whoa too. He will also count to 3 and say go it sounds something like /g/ /g/ /g/- GO! Time went by and at about 20 mos EI came out. A psychologist and ST were there. He was normal in everything except speech. They said significant delay in speech. Since overall (he pointed grunted, made eye contact) they said he was mildly delayed and would not take him on. My son is fine except he won't talk! He follows directions,he understands way more than he can talk, has a great attention span, he is normal except no talking. He hasn't made progress since about 16 mos old. My mom got him to say WOOF clearly- all letters. Within seconds of repeating it became just the /w/ sound. I am the worry wart mom. I asked my DH was he thought thinking he would be the 'sane' one. He said yes I think something is wrong. Before we even read about apraxia, my DH said its like his brain isn't getting to his mouth, the road is broken. So he can't talk. At the time I was like uh, ok. Whatever! I then purchased the book- the late talker. It talked about apraxia (Verbal). I read it to my husband and said...see! I told you! A lot of the symptoms/signs point towards my son. Its the only speech delay/disorder that finally fit him. I dont know for sure this is what he has. Afterall I read it takes most ST at least a few sessions to determine if a kid has it, sometimes not even until they are at least 3 yrs old. My son has been learning a few signs to get his points across. He's been doing pretty good with that. The one thing my husband noticed too is that he seems to have problem doing things with his hands. Like it's hard for him to make a fist - I guess he can't manipulate his hand right to get it down. We have to do it for him. I guess thats it. What do you think? Just worrying for nothing? Thanks for reading! I hope its not what he has. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 Oops! my table did come through much like a table. I have to type it out. Karin July 29, 2005 (27 months) Feb 27,206 (34 months) BDI Component Percentile Rank Age Equivalent Percentile Rank Age Equivalent Personal-Social 1 19mos 73 35mos Adaptive 1 19 30 26 Fine Motor 38 27 40 28 Gross Motor 27 28 61 35-38 Receptive Communication 11 21-22 27 25-26 Expressive Communication 1 11 1 11 Cognitive 25 23 38 28 BDI Total 1 22 42 29 .. RE: [ ] Re: Apraxia? I don't know too much as I'm still learning the in and outs of this dx. I can show you my sons test scores from July 05 and Feb 06 (he is transition to the school district). You can see that his primary difficulties fall in expressive and we have had no trouble receiving services for the last year and half. You can see from the table we haven't made much progress either. It seems you need a second opinion. I have a report from July 05 (same month as the first test) from a developmental ped who said he is fine, no neuro problems, just a late starter! I keep it for laughs!! My point is that my son's scores were never combined to determine eligibility. A severe delay in any area is worth investigating. Good luck, Karin July 29, 2005 (27 months) February 27, 2006 (34 months) BDI Component Percentile Rank Age Equivalent Percentile Rank Age Equivalent Personal-Social 1 19 mos. 73 35 mos. Adaptive 1 19 mos. 30 26 mos. Fine Motor 38 27 mos. 40 28 mos. Gross Motor 27 28 mos. 61 35-38 mos. Receptive Communication 11 21-22 mos. 27 25-26 mos. Expressive Communication 1 11 mos. 1 15 mos. Cognitive 25 23 mos. 38 28 mos. BDI Total 1 22 42 29 mos. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 Thanks for typing it out. :-) Its interesting to see how they score. I hope soon to have an answer...can't wait for Monday! April >From: " Jerry and Karin " <jkfeagles@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Apraxia? >Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:54:02 -0000 > >Oops! my table did come through much like a table. I have to type it out. >Karin > > > July 29, 2005 (27 months) >Feb 27,206 (34 months) > >BDI Component Percentile Rank Age Equivalent >Percentile Rank Age Equivalent > >Personal-Social 1 >19mos >73 35mos >Adaptive 1 >19 30 26 >Fine Motor 38 27 >40 28 >Gross Motor 27 28 >61 35-38 >Receptive Communication 11 21-22 >27 25-26 >Expressive Communication 1 11 >1 11 >Cognitive 25 >23 38 28 >BDI Total 1 >22 42 29 > Quote
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