Re: toiletting regression?

August 2, 2006

I'm not Kerri, but you can do an IgG and IgE food panel through a

standard lab like CPL. I have a friend who did this for her kids

through her pediatrician. Not all pediatricians think it's worthwhile

to test for IgG reactions, so that could be an issue.

> >

> > You could do a food panel to find out if Meg needs the gfcf diet.

> My

> > kids react to gluten and dairy, and consuming either just makes

> > everything harder for them. They progress much faster on the gfcf

> diet.

> >

> > The accidents sound like yeast to me - my son has this problem

> when he

> > has yeast overgrowth. Have you considered trying candex? GSE is

> rather

> > harsh (though effective), and it's good to rotate natural yeast

> > treatments any way. Capryllic acid might also be worth a try, or if

> > these don't work, a round of diflucan. Have you done a stool

> analysis

> > or OAT to find out if she has yeast?

> >

> > good luck

> >

>

August 2, 2006

Hi Kerri,

My sister was just my own personal experience with this type

of childhood regression -I hope I didn't come across as saying that's the only

reason. It's probably not a serious reason...but the links I

provided cover a number of the most probable reasons and advice of

course ruling out physical reasons with your child's ped: " PHYSICAL

PROBLEMS. Consider the possibility of physical problems. Some

children may have developed a urinary tract infection (sometimes due

to bubble bath) causing pain during urination. Some children may

have a blockage of small penile opening in boys. Some children have

a very small bladder, or dietary problems causing discomfort. Be

sure to see your doctor if you suspect any possibility of physical

reasons for regression. "

http://pottytrainingsolutions.com/information/regression.htm

I'm sure there are even less probable reasons for regression in

potty training than yeast from food...but even sexual abuse is above the

yeast from food reason based on what you can find on the web.

Main thing is that in most cases it's normal -just check it out.

'Nocturnal enuresis is so common that it can be considered normal up

to age 6. At age 5, 11% of girls and 14% of boys still are wetting

the bed regularly. There is a 15% annual decrease in that event

after that age. A return to enuresis after months of dryness is

common around age 4. Stressors, presence of urinary tract infection,

or signs of sexual abuse should be evaluated.'

http://www.medical-library.org/journals2a/toileting.htm

How are things going since last you posted?

=====

August 2, 2006

Hi Kerri

Did you do these test through an allergist or pediatrician>

Jeff <kerripat@...> wrote:

,

I did order a 96-food IgG panel for Meg last November. The results

were highly sensitive to dairy/casein and moderate to

gluten/gliadin/wheat etc and almonds. The only real positive I saw

in Meg on the diet was the toiletting - she trained a few weeks

after starting the diet. Actually, her first potty success was a or

two days after removing casein, then her first BM was a couple days

after removing gluten. We've kept some of our eating habits from

when we were on the diet, and the girls only very occasionally have

dairy (ice cream maybe twice a month) and probably less gluten than

the average child (lots of snacks were replaced by fruit, rice

cakes, popcorn, etc). But it really was very challenging for us to

stay on, and I think very alienating for Meg since at school she

always had some lame special snack when the others were eating all

kinds of fun stuff. And there was the cost that was just killing

our finances here at home. So I'd like to avoid doing it again,

unless I determine it's definitely needed.

I've never done an OAT or stool analysis. The times when GSE just

seemed to knock out the accidents, Meg also would have rashes on her

bum that would go away. She doesn't have a rash now - but still

having accidents all the time. Maybe I will try candex. I've heard

of it, but I'll have to do some research.

Thanks for all of your ideas!

Kerri

>

> You could do a food panel to find out if Meg needs the gfcf diet.

My

> kids react to gluten and dairy, and consuming either just makes

> everything harder for them. They progress much faster on the gfcf

diet.

>

> The accidents sound like yeast to me - my son has this problem

when he

> has yeast overgrowth. Have you considered trying candex? GSE is

rather

> harsh (though effective), and it's good to rotate natural yeast

> treatments any way. Capryllic acid might also be worth a try, or if

> these don't work, a round of diflucan. Have you done a stool

analysis

> or OAT to find out if she has yeast?

>

> good luck

>

August 2, 2006

,

I actually ordered this test (IgG) on my own through York Allergy

Labs. You do not need a prescription, and it is a simple finger

prick (instead of blood draw).

A pediatric allergist we saw did some IgE testing (scratch test) and

there were no reactions, so no traditional allergies so far. The

allergist thinks that IgG results are complete B.S.. I still

haven't made my mind up on that.

Kerri

>

> Hi Kerri

>

> Did you do these test through an allergist or pediatrician>

>

August 2, 2006

Thanks ,

No you didn't come across like that - I appreciated all of those

links.

We haven't been having the puddles over the last few days, so that's

good. But still she's been having the small accidents. We'll see -

maybe I was worrying too soon. I am going to get her to the

pediatrician to make sure nothing's out of the ordinary.

This is so frustrating!

Kerri

>

> Hi Kerri,

>

> My sister was just my own personal experience with this type

> of childhood regression -I hope I didn't come across as saying

that's the only

> reason. It's probably not a serious reason...but the links I

> provided cover a number of the most probable reasons and advice of

> course ruling out physical reasons with your child's ped: " PHYSICAL

> PROBLEMS. Consider the possibility of physical problems. Some

> children may have developed a urinary tract infection (sometimes

due

> to bubble bath) causing pain during urination. Some children may

> have a blockage of small penile opening in boys. Some children have

> a very small bladder, or dietary problems causing discomfort. Be

> sure to see your doctor if you suspect any possibility of physical

> reasons for regression. "

> http://pottytrainingsolutions.com/information/regression.htm

>

> I'm sure there are even less probable reasons for regression in

> potty training than yeast from food...but even sexual abuse is

above the

> yeast from food reason based on what you can find on the web.

>

> Main thing is that in most cases it's normal -just check it out.

>

> 'Nocturnal enuresis is so common that it can be considered normal

up

> to age 6. At age 5, 11% of girls and 14% of boys still are wetting

> the bed regularly. There is a 15% annual decrease in that event

> after that age. A return to enuresis after months of dryness is

> common around age 4. Stressors, presence of urinary tract

infection,

> or signs of sexual abuse should be evaluated.'

> http://www.medical-library.org/journals2a/toileting.htm

>

> How are things going since last you posted?

>

> =====

>

August 2, 2006

I'm not Kerri, but you can do an IgG and IgE food panel through a

standard lab like CPL. I have a friend who did this for her kids

through her pediatrician. Not all pediatricians think it's worthwhile

to test for IgG reactions, so that could be an issue.

> >

> > You could do a food panel to find out if Meg needs the gfcf diet.

> My

> > kids react to gluten and dairy, and consuming either just makes

> > everything harder for them. They progress much faster on the gfcf

> diet.

> >

> > The accidents sound like yeast to me - my son has this problem

> when he

> > has yeast overgrowth. Have you considered trying candex? GSE is

> rather

> > harsh (though effective), and it's good to rotate natural yeast

> > treatments any way. Capryllic acid might also be worth a try, or if

> > these don't work, a round of diflucan. Have you done a stool

> analysis

> > or OAT to find out if she has yeast?

> >

> > good luck

> >

>

August 3, 2006