Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 I am posting for a friend who is attempting to hold her school district in North Carolina accountable for providing her 3 year old speech-impaired son with placement in a preschool class. The long and short of the situation is that the county (which comprises the " school district " ) doesn't currently have a preschool classroom for children ages 3-5 with language delays . From what my friend understands, children deemed eligible under IDEA who are ages 3-5 are provided with a few hours a week of home instruction and then whatever therapies are deemed necessary. Her son underwent a speech-language evaluation conducted by the school SLP. Although my friend doesn't have the official report/findings, she said that the SLP had a pretty accurate view of her son's speech-language deficits. His speech becomes less intelligible when he has to string several words together. He has some language deficits (noun-verb agreement, etc) and consequent social deficits. Other than speech-language and social, the child's skills are age-appropriate. The parent feels that the traveling teacher and the SLP (during their home consultation) could not provide adequate exposure to some of the educational experiences that her son needs for a FAPE. He needs opportunities for total immersion in a speech-rich environment as well as social opportunities to practice his speech and language among his peers. Apparently the district does have Headstart programs with limited spots however the programs are over 25 miles away from the family's home plus there is no guarantee of obtaining a spot in the Headstart program. Also, the school district wouldn't pay for the child to attend the Head Start; they simply recommend the program and the family has to pay.) My gut reaction is that her child would have to be lower-functioning to get referred to Headstart anyway. According to IDEA, shouldn't the school have to provide an appropriate education at the child's home school? That being said, because there is no preschool program available for the 3 year olds, the family is seeking a way to hold the school accountable for paying for a private preschool placement. Any and all advice would be much appreciated!!!! Tricia Morin North Carolina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Dear Tricia, I'm not sure this will be helpful but it's worth a shot. I live in New Jersey so I'm also not sure if it works the same in every state but in New Jersey every school district has what is called IDEA funds. This is money that the district can decide how to allocate based on the various requests of parents. In my particular experience, we needed to take our child out of public school because it was very important to us to have him begin religious studies in a private, parochial school. Therefore, we were no longer eligible for the shadow he had in school or the OT he received. He would still get speech services through the county but it would be limited to articulation and not pragmatic language which is what he really needs to focus on. He was also entitled to some resource or 1-1 academic instruction through the county from someone who comes to the school. We were requesting IDEA money to be used for a shadow for him in the private school. The money comes from the state first and is allocated to all the school districts so every year the amount is different. I know of several parents in my district who requested IDEA money for various services such as OT which once you leave the public school system is not provided (if you go to a private school). I made the request in May at the last IEP meeting and stayed in close contact with the director of special services in our school district. I am always polite but very persistent. I would call once a week to ask if there were any decisions made on the allocation of money. Finally, in August there was a closed school board meeting where it was decided and luckilly we were approved for a shadow for 1/2 day 5 days a week which is perfect. The other thing is if the school district can't provide an appropriate program, you are entitled to an Independent assessment from an outside agency that your district is responsible for paying for. If they state that the public school is not appropriate and can't provide what your son or friend's son needs than your friend should find a program that does meet his needs which you've said they've done and advocate for that child in whatever way she can. If she can't do it alone she should hire a parent advocate to help her negotiate the system. The parent advocate I used was invaluable and worth every penny.Often times they are volunteers or work on a sliding fee schedule. So just to recap 1.get a parent advocate 2.explore possibly getting an independent assessment, that the district is responsible for paying for to bolster your information that there isn't an appropriate program provided by the district 3. learn everything you can about IDEA funding in your state and district and how to access it 4. it can't hurt to introduce yourself to the board members of the school district, go to the open meetings and see if they have any influence on how the money is divided. Good luck mother of Aryeh 6 years old and been around the block a few times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Headstart is not only for " lower functioning " kids - the program was designed for lower income kids (originally) and, by federal law, they are required to hold aside a number of spots for kids with disabilities - the number depends on the size of the program. Our headstart in our little town had two spots open for kids with needs. Technically, the kids with needs do not have to be lower income, either. In fact, when we were so angry with Easter Seals and their daycare program, we applied for headstart (I have an aunt who used to teach for headstart in New Jersey - years ago - it was a great program) but then (temporarily) worked things out with Easter Seals so kept Josh there. The severity of the disabling condition should have nothing to do with whether headstart takes the kid. As for whether the school district has to pay - does the headstart program have the facilities available for this child where the district doesn't? If so, the district should be required to pay, ditto for private preschool. Why doesn't the district have the facilities? Is there no preschool at all through the district? If there is, then why aren't therapists included in the services the same way they would be for kids at the elementary and upper school levels? If there isn't any preschool (and there are a lot of districts who do not have preschool at all, admittedly), then, certainly, the district should be paying for all kids with needs, who meet the criteria for special services ages 3-5, through private or headstart programs, or through home programs. Just my two cents. Sherry Tricia Morin <tricia@...> wrote: I am posting for a friend who is attempting to hold her school district in North Carolina accountable for providing her 3 year old speech-impaired son with placement in a preschool class. The long and short of the situation is that the county (which comprises the " school district " ) doesn't currently have a preschool classroom for children ages 3-5 with language delays . From what my friend understands, children deemed eligible under IDEA who are ages 3-5 are provided with a few hours a week of home instruction and then whatever therapies are deemed necessary. Her son underwent a speech-language evaluation conducted by the school SLP. Although my friend doesn't have the official report/findings, she said that the SLP had a pretty accurate view of her son's speech-language deficits. His speech becomes less intelligible when he has to string several words together. He has some language deficits (noun-verb agreement, etc) and consequent social deficits. Other than speech-language and social, the child's skills are age-appropriate. The parent feels that the traveling teacher and the SLP (during their home consultation) could not provide adequate exposure to some of the educational experiences that her son needs for a FAPE. He needs opportunities for total immersion in a speech-rich environment as well as social opportunities to practice his speech and language among his peers. Apparently the district does have Headstart programs with limited spots however the programs are over 25 miles away from the family's home plus there is no guarantee of obtaining a spot in the Headstart program. Also, the school district wouldn't pay for the child to attend the Head Start; they simply recommend the program and the family has to pay.) My gut reaction is that her child would have to be lower-functioning to get referred to Headstart anyway. According to IDEA, shouldn't the school have to provide an appropriate education at the child's home school? That being said, because there is no preschool program available for the 3 year olds, the family is seeking a way to hold the school accountable for paying for a private preschool placement. Any and all advice would be much appreciated!!!! Tricia Morin North Carolina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 They have to provide him w/ a FAPE, it does not matter what the school district currently provides, they must provide what the child needs. I looked at NC law on spec ed, it says all eligable children age 3-20 must be provided w/an FAPE at public expense, according to NC standards, for children in preschool..., according to the IEP (page 4). There was info that says the school district must pay for private school also. Here's the URL for what I looked at: _http://www.ncpublicschools.org/docs/ec/policy/resources/handbook.pdf_ (http://www.ncpublicschools.org/docs/ec/policy/resources/handbook.pdf) I am posting for a friend who is attempting to hold her school district in North Carolina accountable for providing her 3 year old speech-impaired son with placement in a preschool class. The long and short of the situation is that the county (which comprises the " school district " ) doesn't currently have a preschool classroom for children ages 3-5 with language delays . From what my friend understands, children deemed eligible under IDEA who are ages 3-5 are provided with a few hours a week of home instruction and then whatever therapies are deemed necessary. Her son underwent a speech-language evaluation conducted by the school SLP. Although my friend doesn't have the official report/findings, she said that the SLP had a pretty accurate view of her son's speech-language deficits. His speech becomes less intelligible when he has to string several words together. He has some language deficits (noun-verb agreement, etc) and consequent social deficits. Other than speech-language and social, the child's skills are age-appropriate. The parent feels that the traveling teacher and the SLP (during their home consultation) could not provide adequate exposure to some of the educational experiences that her son needs for a FAPE. He needs opportunities for total immersion in a speech-rich environment as well as social opportunities to practice his speech and language among his peers. Apparently the district does have Headstart programs with limited spots however the programs are over 25 miles away from the family's home plus there is no guarantee of obtaining a spot in the Headstart program. Also, the school district wouldn't pay for the child to attend the Head Start; they simply recommend the program and the family has to pay.) My gut reaction is that her child would have to be lower-functioning to get referred to Headstart anyway. According to IDEA, shouldn't the school have to provide an appropriate education at the child's home school? That being said, because there is no preschool program available for the 3 year olds, the family is seeking a way to hold the school accountable for paying for a private preschool placement. Any and all advice would be much appreciated!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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