Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 In a message dated 1/17/2007 8:55:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, medic_ms@... writes: I think if you choose the school wisely it makes no difference in the format used to complete the degree. There are many large, well respected universities allowing for degree completions through distance education, the easiest being through the internet. Exactly. If a school like Texas and M or UT (TU?), or TT etc offers a degree via online weather its full online or partial there is no difference then if you went to campus classes. Like night school it might take you longer etc but once you get a degree from an accredited school it's an accredited degree. Period. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant Buddhist philosopher at-large LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (Home Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 In a message dated 1/17/2007 10:34:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, paramedicop@... writes: If they're from a fully accredited school, there's no way for someone to KNOW it was an online degree. Yes and no. If they were to obtain a transcript they would see that you did online classes and many schools use codes on transcripts that would tell you that it was online but it's irrelevant at that point as it is an accredited degree from an accredited school. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant Buddhist philosopher at-large LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (Home Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 If I were you, I'd think about specific places you'd like to work with that degree, contact them, and find out if they recognize it. My sister-in-law does HR for the state of Florida. They don't recognize online degrees at all. She tells me that is commonplace. --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 If they're from a fully accredited school, there's no way for someone to KNOW it was an online degree. Mike > If I were you, I'd think about specific places you'd like to work > with that degree, contact them, and find out if they recognize it. > My sister-in-law does HR for the state of Florida. They don't > recognize online degrees at all. She tells me that is commonplace. > > --------------------------------- > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 I think if you choose the school wisely it makes no difference in the format used to complete the degree. There are many large, well respected universities allowing for degree completions through distance education, the easiest being through the internet. I just completed the EHS program at UT Health Science Center, you know one of the Medical Schools and Health Science schools for the University of Texas. The majority of my studies were completed via internet courses, and now all but one can be complete via the internet. The classes were not easier than traditional classes either. My point though is the my diploma and transcript looks no different that that of my wife's diploma and transcript who completed her BSN ago few years in a traditional classroom setting. Well from what you are saying I better stay away from Florida when it come to employment. Mike Shown > > If I were you, I'd think about specific places you'd like to work with that degree, contact them, and find out if they recognize it. My sister-in-law does HR for the state of Florida. They don't recognize online degrees at all. She tells me that is commonplace. > > --------------------------------- > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 So tell me, how do you know it is an online degree?? I don't think it is spelled out on the diploma. Not to mention any names, but there are some " colleges " that are strictly online and I would be somewhat concerned about them. I took a 3 credit Summer course for my Masters Degree and it was the hardest class I have ever taken and I can't find anywhere on the transcript or diploma where it says " online course. " I guess I better not tell anyone about that course if I am in the market for a new job? L. ________________________________________________________________________ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335 & u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/\ online_calendar.pd?c=uol5752 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Just FYI, please make sure that your school is accredited by a DoEdu/ CHEA *and* TEA recognized accrediting body. Using a " fraudulent " degree (i.e. one purchased from a " degree mill " can get you jail time: § 32.52. FRAUDULENT, SUBSTANDARD, OR FICTITIOUS DEGREE. (a) In this section, " fraudulent or substandard degree " has the meaning assigned by Section 61.302, Education Code. ( A person commits an offense if the person: (1) uses or claims to hold a postsecondary degree that the person knows: (A) is a fraudulent or substandard degree; ( is fictitious or has otherwise not been granted to the person; or © has been revoked; and (2) uses or claims to hold that degree: (A) in a written or oral advertisement or other promotion of a business; or ( with the intent to: (i) obtain employment; (ii) obtain a license or certificate to practice a trade, profession, or occupation; (iii) obtain a promotion, a compensation or other benefit, or an increase in compensation or other benefit, in employment or in the practice of a trade, profession, or occupation; (iv) obtain admission to an educational program in this state; or (v) gain a position in government with authority over another person, regardless of whether the actor receives compensation for the position. © An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor. (d) If conduct that constitutes an offense under this section also constitutes an offense under any other law, the actor may be prosecuted under this section or the other law. Added by Acts 2005, 79th Leg., ch. 1039, § 8, eff. Sept. 1, 2005. Mike > So tell me, how do you know it is an online degree?? I don't think > it is spelled out on the diploma. Not to mention any names, but > there are some " colleges " that are strictly online and I would be > somewhat concerned about them. > I took a 3 credit Summer course for my Masters Degree and it was > the hardest class I have ever taken and I can't find anywhere on > the transcript or diploma where it says " online course. " I guess I > better not tell anyone about that course if I am in the market for > a new job? > L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 There are a number of accredited and well known programs through out the country that offer online undergrad and graduate degrees in EMS management, and I've often heard that the courses are more difficult and rewarding than traditional courses, which, after getting my masters distance education from a school that does both, I can vouch for this. Many accredited schools do not list course delivery method on their transcripts, and in some schools, one section of a course can be both traditional direct deliver as well as distance education / online students, therefore, there's often no way to distinguish between an online / distance education course and a direct delivery course after the fact. Drew _____ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of lnmolino@... Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 23:37 To: texasems-l Subject: Re: online degrees In a message dated 1/17/2007 10:34:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, paramedicop@ <mailto:paramedicop%40gmail.com> gmail.com writes: If they're from a fully accredited school, there's no way for someone to KNOW it was an online degree. Yes and no. If they were to obtain a transcript they would see that you did online classes and many schools use codes on transcripts that would tell you that it was online but it's irrelevant at that point as it is an accredited degree from an accredited school. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant Buddhist philosopher at-large LNMolino (AT) aol (DOT) <mailto:LNMolino%40aol.com> com (Cell Phone) (Home Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Good point, I know a female that was promoted to Lt. based on her degree and after rumors were investigated it was discovered that she had a " matchbook " degree. How could someone purchase a degree online and feel good about writing the credentials behind their name. The sad part of the situation was the fact that she was very intelligent and could have obtained a degree the appropriate way. She was ultimately demoted and troubles followed her until she was encouraged to seek a transition between jobs. ________________________________________________________________________ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335 & u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/\ online_calendar.pd?c=uol5752 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Just like " Dr. Greg Cynamon " of CortiSlim fame. Degrees from a degree mill in LA. http://www.edresearch.com/Educational%20Mirage%20Awards%20Main%20Page.htm He made millions before the feds caught him. _____ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of lwd7734@... Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: online degrees Good point, I know a female that was promoted to Lt. based on her degree and after rumors were investigated it was discovered that she had a " matchbook " degree. How could someone purchase a degree online and feel good about writing the credentials behind their name. The sad part of the situation was the fact that she was very intelligent and could have obtained a degree the appropriate way. She was ultimately demoted and troubles followed her until she was encouraged to seek a transition between jobs. __________________________________________________________ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track. <http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335 & u=http://www.americangreetings.com/prod ucts/online_calendar.pd?c=uol5752> juno.com/s/lc?s=197335 & u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/online_ca lendar.pd?c=uol5752 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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